What's new

No result in the 1st T20I between Australia and Pakistan due to persistent rain

Status
Not open for further replies.
Titan24 said:
In T20s yes but in ODIs and tests our performances were as poor as it gets under him.
Click to expand...

Mickey wanted to build a test team that could compete everywhere. Whereas Misbah wants a test team that is like India from the 90’s. Play on roads for four days and hope for a collapse on day 5.
He will go back to the same formula back in UAE. Meanwhile in India, their fast bowlers take more wickets at home than ever before. Everything from Misbah so far has been meek and regressive
 
MMHS said:
I think, some how they'll complete 5 overs here. Shouldn't have curtailed to 15 overs at first place - that too for accommodating 20 minutes break!!!!
Click to expand...

Cricket with rain and unnecessary breaks can be a frustrating sport for viewer at times. ICC should think about improving these situations.
 
I was wondering to stats still count in no result games like Barbars 50 and irfan babas thrashing
 
ARK Rafay said:
Mickey extracted the best out of this team. Fact is we don't have players coming through like India and Australia for example. And now with Misbah and Waqar back we are revisiting the past. Nostolgia
Click to expand...

I don't think Arthur's team played too many T20s where AUS (or any top team), put first choice 10-11 players. Having said that, yes - that PAK team was because of Arthur, not in spite of Arthur.
 
After the 1st rain break I was hungry to watch more game. But after Irfan's over I'm fullfilled :sarf2
 
Experience.HAHAHAHAHA
Irfan's "experience" is going to get him another match. A masterstroke by Misbah.

It's so embarrassing wathcing these "experienced" fast bowlers. Can't bowl or field. That Wahab Riaz fielding effort was just as embarrassing as Irfan's over, and to top it off he had the mic on. Looked like a grandpa chasing after the ball.

Musa and Hasnain will spend the whole series warming the bench while these Oldies get tonked out of the SCG, Manuke Oval and Perth Stadium. Then Imran Khan will play ahead of Naseem and get tonked out of the Gabba and Adelaide stadium, in a test match. But Misbah will say "Where are the fast bowlers in domestic or the squad, where are they? Tell me. Name me a single fast bowler other than Imran, Irfan and Wahab". Then someone will throw a shoe at him. :misbah4:misbah4:misbah4:misbah4:misbah4:misbah4:misbah4
 
Last edited:
MMHS said:
I don't think Arthur's team played too many T20s where AUS (or any top team), put first choice 10-11 players. Having said that, yes - that PAK team was because of Arthur, not in spite of Arthur.
Click to expand...

We lost against Sri Lanka in home. Whitewashed under Misbah. That should count to something?
 
Danyaalr01 said:
Experience.HAHAHAHAHA
Irfan's "experience" is going to get him another match. A masterstroke by Misbah.

It's so embarrassing wathcing these "experienced" fast bowlers. Can't bowl or field. That Wahab Riaz fielding effort was just as embarrassing as Irfan's over, and to top it off he had the mic on. Looked like a grandpa chasing after the ball.

Musa and Hasnain will spend the whole series warming the bench while these Oldies get tonked out of the SCG, Manuke Oval and Perth Stadium. Then Imran Khan will play ahead of Naseem and get tonked out of the Gabba and Adelaide stadium, in a test match.
Click to expand...

Though what ur saying is all true but wahab is actuslly a very good fielder for fast bowler you should have seen his fielding in the World Cup and his catching is always great
 
Pete Rose said:
Mickey wanted to build a test team that could compete everywhere. Whereas Misbah wants a test team that is like India from the 90’s. Play on roads for four days and hope for a collapse on day 5.
He will go back to the same formula back in UAE. Meanwhile in India, their fast bowlers take more wickets at home than ever before. Everything from Misbah so far has been meek and regressive
Click to expand...

I have no doubt about Mickey’s intentions to create a team that can compete everywhere but reality of the world is that you need to keep on giving minimum results to get an oppurtunity to keep going however, losing home series to Srl and NZ really damaged Mickey’s chances to get an extension.
 
They need to rethink Rizwan’s position in the t20 line up.
 
Mean&Green said:
Though what ur saying is all true but wahab is actuslly a very good fielder for fast bowler you should have seen his fielding in the World Cup and his catching is always great
Click to expand...

His ground fielding is pathetic and he can't run. He looks like he's running with a broken leg or something.
 
Mickey still supporting Pakistan after he was wrongly dropped, still cares more about our cricket than all these "Pakistani" ****** panjus.
 
Titan24 said:
I have no doubt about Mickey’s intentions to create a team that can compete everywhere but reality of the world is that you need to keep on giving minimum results to get an oppurtunity to keep going however, losing home series to Srl and NZ really damaged Mickey’s chances to get an extension.
Click to expand...

I am not denying that, but I would submit that Pakistan’s poor test form has more to do with Azhar Ali and Asad shafiq not growing up. Not absolving Mickey, just saying that I am really alarmed by how easily Misbah has managed to mess up success
 
Pete Rose said:
Mickey wanted to build a test team that could compete everywhere. Whereas Misbah wants a test team that is like India from the 90’s. Play on roads for four days and hope for a collapse on day 5.
He will go back to the same formula back in UAE. Meanwhile in India, their fast bowlers take more wickets at home than ever before. Everything from Misbah so far has been meek and regressive
Click to expand...

I don't think so to be honest - the barrel is almost empty, scratching bottom might replace Wahab for Shinwari or Irfan for Faheem. No excuse for selecting an "Officially" 37 years old pacer, but this guy was almost unplayable in recent National T20 cup which had top 75 players of PAK participating. Oblate PAK has played too many "soft" games, which has inflated most players' stats, and often tem looks shell shocked when challenged. Irfan or Amir, and be Misbah or Imran - if PAK's opening pair goes for 41 in 3 overs, something else is wrong.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
His ground fielding is pathetic and he can't run. He looks like he's running with a broken leg or something.
Click to expand...

You know he has a knee right with wasim akram shadab and wahab interview he has problem in his left knee and they are still playing him which is really stupid
 
Things we will learn in this odi series that we already knew, but are discoveries for Misbah:
1 - irfan is trash
2 - wahab is trash
3 - Rizwan is not a dynamic enough t20 player
4 - fakhar zaman is trash
5 - Imad wasim is playing too low
6 - Abdul Qadirs son is also trash
 
DRsohail said:
Let some ODi series come, you will get your answer .Misbah is worst for LOU.
Click to expand...

Cant judge him as of now but irrespective of how Misbah thing pans out, Mickey still didnt do enough to get the extension. Same thing will happen with Misbah if results dont appear soon.
 
Mean&Green said:
You know he has a knee right with wasim akram shadab and wahab interview he has problem in his left knee and they are still playing him which is really stupid
Click to expand...

Experience has kept him in the team, even though he is injured. Misbah would rather have an injured fast bowler in the team than a young one who can probably do better than him.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
Experience has kept him in the team, even though he is injured. Misbah would rather have an injured fast bowler in the team than a young one who can probably do better than him.
Click to expand...

It’s not experience Pakistani people don’t understand the bigger picture misbah doesn’t give one **** about experience it’s all about yaaari dosti why do you think asif Ali still got selected lol
 
Titan24 said:
Cant judge him as of now but irrespective of how Misbah thing pans out, Mickey still didnt do enough to get the extension. Same thing will happen with Misbah if results dont appear soon.
Click to expand...
I am not talking about his extension. Misbah should have never replaceed him. should have been someone else.
 
Pete Rose said:
I am not denying that, but I would submit that Pakistan’s poor test form has more to do with Azhar Ali and Asad shafiq not growing up. Not absolving Mickey, just saying that I am really alarmed by how easily Misbah has managed to mess up success
Click to expand...

I think combination being has a lot to do with that; Hassan and Shaheen werent available while Malik and Hafeez have been ousted (Which many posters always wished for). All 4 players had a role in making Pakistan a success in T20 outfit along with obvious performer Babar.
 
ARK Rafay said:
We lost against Sri Lanka in home. Whitewashed under Misbah. That should count to something?
Click to expand...

I can explain that as well - Inzi would have picked MoHa- Malik and they would have bashed that Lankan part-time leggi to hide the dart under carpet. The reality is that Misbah tried to oust couple of Zombies from the team after 2 decades of mediocrity and it hurt him badly, because rest are even worse against even below average spin.

You think PAK should need a genius coach or selector to avoid white wash against a SRL back-up squad at home, in T20?
 
MMHS said:
I don't think so to be honest - the barrel is almost empty, scratching bottom might replace Wahab for Shinwari or Irfan for Faheem. No excuse for selecting an "Officially" 37 years old pacer, but this guy was almost unplayable in recent National T20 cup which had top 75 players of PAK participating. Oblate PAK has played too many "soft" games, which has inflated most players' stats, and often tem looks shell shocked when challenged. Irfan or Amir, and be Misbah or Imran - if PAK's opening pair goes for 41 in 3 overs, something else is wrong.
Click to expand...
See, I have a fundamental issue with Misbah’s approach to cricket as coach.
To me the coach is job is to build a durable team that plays a contemporary brain of cricket. In order to do that selections will be and persisted with until we get the right team.
Misbah’s approach to cricket is: we selected guys who are experienced.
I just cannot get behind an approach like that
 
Danyaalr01 said:
That's a shame, I wanted to see Irfan being hit more. I also wanted to see Wahab's bowling fly into the stands.
Click to expand...

I did too but it kind of would have not been fair on babar reduced game and he played so well to be on the losing side because of misbahs trashy decisions
 
Mean&Green said:
It’s not experience Pakistani people don’t understand the bigger picture misbah doesn’t give one **** about experience it’s all about yaaari dosti why do you think asif Ali still got selected lol
Click to expand...

It's both I reckon.
 
Mean&Green said:
I did too but it kind of would have not been fair on babar reduced game and he played so well to be on the losing side because of misbahs trashy decisions
Click to expand...

I feel really bad for Babar. Pakistanis will be after him and blame this disaster on him. Even though he is the only one who performed. Most people thought he will crumble under the pressure. He may not have been at his best, but he stuck out there for his team.

Babar has been cursed with Misbah and his pathetic selections.
 
MMHS said:
I don't think so to be honest - the barrel is almost empty, scratching bottom might replace Wahab for Shinwari or Irfan for Faheem. No excuse for selecting an "Officially" 37 years old pacer, but this guy was almost unplayable in recent National T20 cup which had top 75 players of PAK participating. Oblate PAK has played too many "soft" games, which has inflated most players' stats, and often tem looks shell shocked when challenged. Irfan or Amir, and be Misbah or Imran - if PAK's opening pair goes for 41 in 3 overs, something else is wrong.
Click to expand...
What's wrong is the wrong selection of players. It's not that Finch has taken a bowler for 26 runs in an over, he has done this to the best in the business. It's the manner in which Irfan mentally just collapsed in the face of this brutal attack. Every delivery was predictable to the point that someone as limited as Finch was basically pre-meditating every single ball.

Musa or Hasnain could have got smashed for 30 here, but atleast they wouldn't have mentally collapsed like our gentle giant here.

Also we are still a lot better than certain teams who field an all-spin attack and still get smashed, so keep these scraping the barrel comments to yourself next time.
 
MMHS said:
I can explain that as well - Inzi would have picked MoHa- Malik and they would have bashed that Lankan part-time leggi to hide the dart under carpet. The reality is that Misbah tried to oust couple of Zombies from the team after 2 decades of mediocrity and it hurt him badly, because rest are even worse against even below average spin.

You think PAK should need a genius coach or selector to avoid white wash against a SRL back-up squad at home, in T20?
Click to expand...

Misbah's selection of some players so far has been horrendous. He could'nt justify Akmal and Shehzad and now Irfan. Next in line is Imran Khan Sr/Jr. Mickey did well in his trench. Had ups and downs but was also rebuilding the test team in the right way. It is only a start of a bigger picture for Misbah. The part that he is head Coach + chief selector will haunt him badly.
 
It seems that we are actually going to get away with it. Yet another fluke result for Pakistan.
 
Pete Rose said:
See, I have a fundamental issue with Misbah’s approach to cricket as coach.
To me the coach is job is to build a durable team that plays a contemporary brain of cricket. In order to do that selections will be and persisted with until we get the right team.
Misbah’s approach to cricket is: we selected guys who are experienced.
I just cannot get behind an approach like that
Click to expand...

It's not Misbah - it's the culture of the society. Pick randomly 10 PAK former cricketer, 7 to 9 of them will talk about experience, support, confidence, talent ..... not the technical side of the game, not the skill set required, not about the combination. He is just the face of PAK's cricket intellectuality as a whole.

More than age or quality of selection, I was upset to see a bowling combination that had 3 left-arm pacers, a LAO darter, a leggi and a part-timer SLAO - something Aussies mentioned in a different way. Ask any PAK pandit, he'll say "arm se keya hota hai ... talut is talunt and these guys have experience". PAK is at least 25 years behind the top pack of the world, and it started from 1998, when PCA blocked ECB to hire foreigners in Counties by dozen.
 
Babar Azam VS Aus in T20s

Matches : 4
Runs : 222
Avg : 111
50s : 3

Babar Azam loves batting against Australia in T20...
 
Mamoon said:
It seems that we are actually going to get away with it. Yet another fluke result for Pakistan.
Click to expand...

even if they come back babar has to make sure he bring irfan again so that ball keeps travelling in crowd i think thats what saved pak today if imad wouldve brought it was done n dusted for pak
 
Has Irfan just played a master stroke?
Minimum of 5 overs of play is needed to process a result. Irfan bowled those full tosses, no ball and got whacked for sixes and wasted some time. Because he knew rain was coming?
Did he sacrificed himself for the greater good? :salute
 
DRsohail said:
Let some ODi series come, you will get your answer .Misbah is worst for LOU.
Click to expand...

Just like previously I agree that his selection wasnt on merit and even a local successful coach like Adul Rehman would have made sense in terms of merit. However, as I previously said that subcontinental tradition is To go for big figures rather than good coaches like Ravi Shastri (Got neutralized with presence of experienced coaches like Bharat Arun and Bangar with team), Miandad, Waqar and now Misbah. On the other hand we and Gary Stead, Mike Hessen becoming NZ coaches without them being famous crickters themselves but due to them being good coaches.

Hopefully with new domestic structure not only players rather local coaches like Mohammad Wasim, Abul Rehman etc also come into limelight.
 
ARK Rafay said:
Has Irfan just played a master stroke?
Minimum of 5 overs of play is needed to process a result. Irfan bowled those full tosses, no ball and got whacked for sixes and wasted some time. Because he knew rain was coming?
Did he sacrificed himself for the greater good? :salute
Click to expand...

Someone who gets it. :smith
 
Nov15 said:
No chance of play now. Lucky Misbah.
Click to expand...

Lucky Irfan. Now Misbah will say Irfan's over made sure they couldn't get past the 5 over mark as he was hit into the stands so many times. That no ball was a masterstroke from Irfan. Irfan's performance prevented a loss for us. Be thnkful.
 
Usman Chadda said:
What's wrong is the wrong selection of players. It's not that Finch has taken a bowler for 26 runs in an over, he has done this to the best in the business. It's the manner in which Irfan mentally just collapsed in the face of this brutal attack. Every delivery was predictable to the point that someone as limited as Finch was basically pre-meditating every single ball.

Musa or Hasnain could have got smashed for 30 here, but atleast they wouldn't have mentally collapsed like our gentle giant here.

Also we are still a lot better than certain teams who field an all-spin attack and still get smashed, so keep these scraping the barrel comments to yourself next time.
Click to expand...

Why are you upset here - what other team does or get doesn't change the fact of 41/0 in 3'1 with phast bowling attack. Wasn't the SRL series enough for staying a little humble and discuss cricket on it's individual merit?
 
Now after 1 year someone will post " We are better than X, we drew a match in Australia".
 
ARK Rafay said:
Has Irfan just played a master stroke?
Minimum of 5 overs of play is needed to process a result. Irfan bowled those full tosses, no ball and got whacked for sixes and wasted some time. Because he knew rain was coming?
Did he sacrificed himself for the greater good? :salute
Click to expand...

Misbah played the masterstroke. He just needed an old, experienced and unfit bowler to do the job for him.
 
A miscalculation by Finch.

He should have tuk-tuk'd his way to 6 off 4 overs and then unleashed in one Irfan over for his 28 runs.

That would have completed 5 overs and a DL win for Australia. Rookie mistake.
 
ARK Rafay said:
Has Irfan just played a master stroke?
Minimum of 5 overs of play is needed to process a result. Irfan bowled those full tosses, no ball and got whacked for sixes and wasted some time. Because he knew rain was coming?
Did he sacrificed himself for the greater good? :salute
Click to expand...

In Captain we trust:misbah4
 
ARK Rafay said:
Has Irfan just played a master stroke?
Minimum of 5 overs of play is needed to process a result. Irfan bowled those full tosses, no ball and got whacked for sixes and wasted some time. Because he knew rain was coming?
Did he sacrificed himself for the greater good? :salute
Click to expand...

Irfan's game awareness as a cricketer is on the 5th dimension. Us observers can't possibly understand his genius.
 
Rain took away potential Semi Final spot from Pak by raining in Srl match which Pak was supposed to win. Who knows Pak might have actually won the WC after that so this is the least rain can do to compensate. :smith
 
This is as bad as Pakistan getting away with a N/R against England in the 1992 World Cup.
 
MMHS said:
Why are you upset here - what other team does or get doesn't change the fact of 41/0 in 3'1 with phast bowling attack. Wasn't the SRL series enough for staying a little humble and discuss cricket on it's individual merit?
Click to expand...
I was here before the Pakistan-Bangladesh WC game btw. Bit rich of you to talk about staying humble :yk :))

41/0 in 3 overs is all because of a howler our head coach will inevitably refuse to own up to.
 
I believe today’s result was the best possible scenario for us. Babar got a nice 50 and we also got to realise that Fakhar and Asif are both useless. But best off all, Irfan got fully exposed and should certainly be dropped for the next game. Inshallah Hasnain or Musa get selected for the 2nd T20 and are able to cement a permanent position in our T20 outfit. With Shaheen also coming back soon, our bowling actually is starting to look really good.Hopefully Khushdil also comes in for the useless Asif.
 
Abdurmirr said:
I believe today’s result was the best possible scenario for us. Babar got a nice 50 and we also got to realise that Fakhar and Asif are both useless. But best off all, Irfan got fully exposed and should certainly be dropped for the next game. Inshallah Hasnain or Musa get selected for the 2nd T20 and are able to cement a permanent position in our T20 outfit. With Shaheen also coming back soon, our bowling actually is starting to look really good.Hopefully Khushdil also comes in for the useless Asif.
Click to expand...

Best way to look at it.
 
Misbah picked the best XI for the conditions and it delivered. Kept the Australians to under 5 overs before the rain came back. Can't expect more. Analytics, tactics, strategy all on display.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

The Bald Eagle
Persistent rain forces the abandonment of the group stage match between Australia and South Africa in the ICC Champions Trophy 2025
2
Replies
98
Views
3K
Bhaijaan
Bhaijaan
FearlessRoar
  • Poll Poll
Who will win the 2nd T20I between England and Pakistan?
Replies
20
Views
824
mominsaigol
mominsaigol
BouncerGuy
Pakistan (134) fall short as Australia (147/9) win the second T20I by 13 runs taking unassailable 2-0 lead with 1 game remaining
16 17 18
Replies
1K
Views
19K
lucky_fish
L
The Bald Eagle
New Zealand (220/6) outclass Pakistan (105) by 115 runs in the fourth T20I to take an unassailable 3-1 lead in the 5-match series
10 11 12
Replies
949
Views
15K
RizwanT20Champ
R
BouncerGuy
  • Poll Poll
Predict the outcome of the 3-match T20I series between Australia and Pakistan
Replies
7
Views
314
Cricket Warrior
Cricket Warrior
Back
Top