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Talking to Saudi Arabia, USA, China, France etc. didn't work so why not talk to India themselves haha?
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No talks with India before curfew in occupied Kashmir is lifted, says FM Shah Mehmood Qureshi
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Talking to Saudi Arabia, USA, China, France etc. didn't work so why not talk to India themselves haha?
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They offered Modi talks, Imran Khan 3 times directly in phone call and letters but was completely ignored.
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Maybe it's time to get 4th time lucky then!
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Looks like Imran is finally tired of India ignoring his Twitter war.
Nonetheless, Pakistan is the only country in the world that wants other countries/parties to make concessions for Pakistan but on Pakistan’s terms.
Whereas in other countries, the country/party that holds the key is the one that decides the terms.
In this specific example, Pakistan cannot do zilch when it comes to Kashmir, but yet, the fake pir masquerading as Foreign Minister wants dialogue with India on Pakistan’s terms.
We truly are a gift to this world.
Nonetheless, Pakistan is the only country in the world that wants other countries/parties to make concessions for Pakistan but on Pakistan’s terms.
Whereas in other countries, the country/party that holds the key is the one that decides the terms.
In this specific example, Pakistan cannot do zilch when it comes to Kashmir, but yet, the fake pir masquerading as Foreign Minister wants dialogue with India on Pakistan’s terms.
We truly are a gift to this world.
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Whats the use of the talks? Whats tge guarantee that pakistan wont do another Kargil?
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Look at who wrote the article. 
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I remember this guy - Shah Mehmood Qureshi - he was Pakistan's foreign minister even during 26/11, when he was haplessly prattled out in front of the media to defend things which he couldn't.
How did he end up in Imran Khan's cabinet?
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Just like how every other tried and tested failure has ended up in his party. They have vote banks, and that is all he cares about.
The current advisor on financial and economic affairs, Hafeez Shaikh, was PPP’s Finance Minister. Imran criticized their performance for years, but his solution to Pakistan’s financial crisis is to appointing a PPP minister.
You can’t make it up - it is an absolute circus. We are living in an age where Trump, Boris and Imran are running their countries.
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Talks serve no purpose. War is the only option to settle the dispute.
If Pak army hasn’t got enough muscle or courage or both. They should stop with this dramaybazi.
If Pak army hasn’t got enough muscle or courage or both. They should stop with this dramaybazi.
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No talks with India before curfew in occupied Kashmir is lifted, says FM Qureshi
Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has said that Pakistan could hold talks with India over the issue of occupied Kashmir if New Delhi meets certain conditions, including allowing him to meet with the Kashmiri leadership.
In an exclusive interview with BBC Urdu, the minister said Pakistan had no objection to holding bilateral talks with India and that it would also welcome mediation by a third party.
He said the talks could take place if: India lifts the crippling curfew that has been imposed in occupied Kashmir for nearly four weeks, restores the rights of local residents, releases the entire imprisoned Kashmiri leadership and allows him (Qureshi) to meet with the Kashmiri leadership.
But he added as a caveat that while Pakistan has never shied away from talks, he did not see a favourable atmosphere for negotiations from the Indian side considering New Delhi's oppression of the Kashmiri people.
"There are three disputes to this conflict: India, Pakistan and Kashmir," Qureshi told the BBC. "I think if India is serious it should first set Kashmiri leaders free and allow me to meet the Kashmiri leadership and hold consultations.
"I will have to assess their (Kashmiri leaders') emotions. [We] cannot come to the table for talks by trampling the sentiments of Kashmiris."
On August 5, the government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi stripped Kashmiris of the special autonomy they had for seven decades through a rushed presidential order. An indefinite curfew was imposed in occupied Kashmir and elected leaders were put under house arrest. The clampdown is now on its 27th day.
Pakistan angrily slammed New Delhi's moves, expelling India's ambassador, suspending bilateral trade, and taking the matter to the United Nations Security Council.
Foreign Minister Qureshi's latest comments echo that of Prime Minister Imran Khan, who wrote in an op-ed for The New York Times on Friday that dialogue with India can start only when it reverses its "illegal annexation of Kashmir, ends the curfew and lockdown, and withdraws its troops to the barracks".
"With the nuclear shadow hovering over South Asia, we realise that Pakistan and India have to move out of a zero-sum mind-set to begin dialogue on Kashmir, various strategic matters and trade. On Kashmir, the dialogue must include all stakeholders, especially the Kashmiris," the premier wrote.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1502775
Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has said that Pakistan could hold talks with India over the issue of occupied Kashmir if New Delhi meets certain conditions, including allowing him to meet with the Kashmiri leadership.
In an exclusive interview with BBC Urdu, the minister said Pakistan had no objection to holding bilateral talks with India and that it would also welcome mediation by a third party.
He said the talks could take place if: India lifts the crippling curfew that has been imposed in occupied Kashmir for nearly four weeks, restores the rights of local residents, releases the entire imprisoned Kashmiri leadership and allows him (Qureshi) to meet with the Kashmiri leadership.
But he added as a caveat that while Pakistan has never shied away from talks, he did not see a favourable atmosphere for negotiations from the Indian side considering New Delhi's oppression of the Kashmiri people.
"There are three disputes to this conflict: India, Pakistan and Kashmir," Qureshi told the BBC. "I think if India is serious it should first set Kashmiri leaders free and allow me to meet the Kashmiri leadership and hold consultations.
"I will have to assess their (Kashmiri leaders') emotions. [We] cannot come to the table for talks by trampling the sentiments of Kashmiris."
On August 5, the government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi stripped Kashmiris of the special autonomy they had for seven decades through a rushed presidential order. An indefinite curfew was imposed in occupied Kashmir and elected leaders were put under house arrest. The clampdown is now on its 27th day.
Pakistan angrily slammed New Delhi's moves, expelling India's ambassador, suspending bilateral trade, and taking the matter to the United Nations Security Council.
Foreign Minister Qureshi's latest comments echo that of Prime Minister Imran Khan, who wrote in an op-ed for The New York Times on Friday that dialogue with India can start only when it reverses its "illegal annexation of Kashmir, ends the curfew and lockdown, and withdraws its troops to the barracks".
"With the nuclear shadow hovering over South Asia, we realise that Pakistan and India have to move out of a zero-sum mind-set to begin dialogue on Kashmir, various strategic matters and trade. On Kashmir, the dialogue must include all stakeholders, especially the Kashmiris," the premier wrote.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1502775
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Thanks but no thanks. These talks serve no purpose.
What talks? Who talks with Hitler? There is only one way to beat Hitler. Get Russia, UK, USSR on your side and attack him. It already worked once. This is what happens when you have army running the diplomacy. There is no plan, there is no coherence. You already escalated the war of words. Who's gonna talk to you? Why do you have conditions if you are the one asking for talks? I know. That's the false bravado that armies have. Pak army should just come out and start a war and get this over with in a couple of weeks instead of this puppet show. That happened in the past too and there was peace right after.
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couple of days before IK & this very guy said 'No talks with India until they revert abrogation of article 370'
Now they r saying 'No talks with India before curfew in occupied Kashmir is lifted'
So they had soft their stance haha lol
Now they r saying 'No talks with India before curfew in occupied Kashmir is lifted'
So they had soft their stance haha lol
Lol don't take Shah Mehmood Qureshi seriously, he is disastrous. I'll do bhangra the day someone replaces him as our FM.
As opposed to reincarted Hitler the Murdurous and racist Modi .
I was never fan of Shah but must say he has served well so far as FM raising the kashmir issue worldwide and delivering Pak point of view . Results of course would not be seen as the world have their head buried under sand due to concerns about their sate of economy of their own country, so they would be prepared to trade with evil nations such as India and Saudi Arabia
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Wow calling Saudi Arabia evil! Looks like you guys will be returning 20 billion dollars of investment money plus the cheap oil u getting from them. No wonder nations don't like to invest in Pakistan or give any kind of aid. You reward those who help u by calling them evil....
China will learn it's lesson too... Maybe 5 years later.
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I was grouping the incompetent leaders. Modi is a bigot but not incompetent.
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Why blame the world when we are guilty of the same? Just replace “India” and “Saudi Arabia” with “China” in your post, and it applies to how we have turned a blind eye to the atrocities of China against Ughyr Muslims.
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As much as you hate Modi for his egoistic approach, he's successfully called Pakistan government's bluff.
Modi knows only missiles Imran's ever going to launch are through twitter and newspapers.
Not since Indira Gandhi did India have a leader of the same risk taking calibre as Modi.
Like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] said above, Modi is a bigot but he's not incompetent.
Everything that he means to do, he's doing relentlessly and there's nothing that's going to stop him.
2019 elections settled once and for all only way he's going to be out put of power is if he dies prematurely.
South Asian politics is now dictated by Modi and he's not going anywhere for another two terms.
Scary part is he's preceded by Amit Shah, biggest war monger in BJP. He won't think twice before throwing a nuclear bomb at Pakistan if it comes down to that.
Imran is right. We are indeed looking right in the eye of a nuclear war.
With Modi-Shah at helm, I can't rule it out. They have a track record
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Modi knows only missiles Imran's ever going to launch are through twitter and newspapers.
Not since Indira Gandhi did India have a leader of the same risk taking calibre as Modi.
Like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] said above, Modi is a bigot but he's not incompetent.
Everything that he means to do, he's doing relentlessly and there's nothing that's going to stop him.
2019 elections settled once and for all only way he's going to be out put of power is if he dies prematurely.
South Asian politics is now dictated by Modi and he's not going anywhere for another two terms.
Scary part is he's preceded by Amit Shah, biggest war monger in BJP. He won't think twice before throwing a nuclear bomb at Pakistan if it comes down to that.
Imran is right. We are indeed looking right in the eye of a nuclear war.
With Modi-Shah at helm, I can't rule it out. They have a track record
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Very scary times.
How have you managed to judge Imran K competency level when he just started his premiership; and even then he has already started off very good schemes. Ofcourse you know it takes good few years to sort out initial teething problems to setup even a business and we are talking about setting up governorship by a party that does not have previous experience. Going by IK records with everything he has been involved in his life(aprt from his marriages) "incompetent " is the last thing I would call him, and it does not even apply to Trump,anyway not even apply to Boris but jury is out there to see whether he achieves success for Britian or not. Now coming to Modi, like Hitler, he finds himself in power heading a racist scheme and on spree with mass murders and prisoning of innocents. That does not make him competent just like it did not make Hitler very clever in what he was trying to achieve. All Modi is doing is building a self destruct bomb that will destroy his country when it will go off, as Hitler found when hemanagedro upset but too many people. Violence and force in the modern world cannot achieve much , especially when you are in war with your own countrymen aka muslims. Already Indian economy is feeling some jolts, and distracting his own country would not help on their path to fantasy super powerdem.
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Yes, the ’halaat’ of the Indian economy is a clear indicator of how competent he is.
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Tbh, the credit of internationalizing Kashmir goes to IK mostly. I honestly don’t think Shah Mehmood Qureshi has done anything good since last year.
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Modi is incompetent , not corrupt but incompetent and seeing how things were I rather take corruption over incompetence-communal combination.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"No chance of talks" with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> until it lifts curfew in occupied <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a>, reverses Article 370 move: PM Imran <a href="https://t.co/9EQOoI6e3I">https://t.co/9EQOoI6e3I</a></p>— Dawn.com (@dawn_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com/status/1174354555720687616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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