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RIP ..Really unfortunate the amount of deaths of immigrants that this WC has caused.
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RIP ..Really unfortunate the amount of deaths of immigrants that this WC has caused.
Do people not die in other countries?
Do people not die in other countries?
Immigrant deaths involved directly with WC.
Irrespective I’m also responsible as I watched the WC after 10 years.
Do immigrants or workers not die in other countries?
What about worker rights in India? We know how Dalits are treated in India.
Not just India but all third world countries are like this. Even first world countries sometimes have exploitations.
In which other country they die at these numbers related to a tournament?
And how many Qatari citizens died while working? (I don’t wish anyone to die of working but most of them are immigrants )
FYI Qatar is not developing country it has highest per capita income, that’s why they are getting singled out, every other “developed” country has way better quality of life as a immigrant.
Also Indians died here, if they die in such numbers in other countries would post the same.
Irrespective as i said im responsible as well. I made a conscious choice of watching majority games.
In which other country they die at these numbers related to a tournament?
And how many Qatari citizens died while working? (I don’t wish anyone to die of working but most of them are immigrants )
FYI Qatar is not developing country it has highest per capita income, that’s why they are getting singled out, every other “developed” country has way better quality of life as a immigrant.
Also Indians died here, if they die in such numbers in other countries would post the same.
Irrespective as i said im responsible as well. I made a conscious choice of watching majority games.
FIFA World Cup: German TV channel criticised for their ‘racist’ coverage of Morocco’s team
Welt, one of Germany's most popular TV channels, made 'Islamophobic' remarks.
Germany’s TV channel, Welt, has received severe backlash for its "racist" depiction of Moroccan players. One of their hosts said that the Atlas Lions are "posing with [the] Islamic State gesture" after their victory against Portugal in the quarter-finals, reports the Middle East Eye and Morocco News.
The clip shows three players from the Morocco team holding their country’s flag between them, and raising their index fingers. This is a sign that Muslims have been using for 1400 years during celebrations as it serves as a reminder of the oneness of God and an affirmation of faith.
Welt is one of Germany's most popular TV channels, and during the segment, they said that the image of Moroccan players pointing their fingers to the sky has caused "irritation" because it's the "salute" the Islamic State (IS) uses after their victory. It further suggested that the players did not know the significance of the gesture. Welt further said that the "Free Palestine" chant by football fans also implies the "destruction of Israel".
Of the many people who accused the TV channel of racism, one is German journalist Tarek Bae, who said that they are "fabricating" the connection with IS. He said that Moroccan players are aware of the gestures meaning, which "racists in the world do not," and "this inflammatory reporting around the world causes irritation.”
By this logic, you are also responsible for all rapes, torture and murders in Kashmir by Indian troops. In fact you are more responsible as you have some power in selecting your government and esp since you never condemn these atrocities.
Why the emphasize on tournament? LOL.
So, outside of tournament, death doesn't matter?
This selective outrage reminds me of KONY 2012.
Yes.. I have already said I’m glad I’m not an elected official of my country(India), it would be mess with every state becoming a country.
Do you think I would vote for BJP? Plz see how much BJP ever won in Tamil Nadu lol
Please tell us how many people died in Russia and how many is Qatar and how many in London. Do you know the numbersQatar is being singled out because it is a conservative Muslim country. There was no such outrage (not to this extent) when World Cup happened in Russia.
It is simply Islamophobia. Nothing else.
why should we learn from west about human rights .
No real Qatari will work in that hellish heat in Qatar. They import cheap labor from third world dirt poor countries. They just sign up for a extreme job and hope for the best.
Once the migrant worker lands there, they become Qatari slaves. They are pretty much held there against their will.
LOL at Qatari slaves.
If it is really bad, why do they go for works in Qatar? They can remain in their native countries.
They are like slaves. Because it pays better than their home country and they can feed their families.
LOL at Qatari slaves.
If it is really bad, why do they go for works in Qatar? They can remain in their native countries.
Confiscating the poor workers passport upon arrival and not giving it back to them. Making them work like donkeys in inhumane conditions is slavery.
Some work for several years and in spite of that, they have no rights in that country. I know you will defend this too.
So UN is paid and funded by qatar? Why are they saying misleading and wrongly linked and out of context.Kenyan Stadium Guard's Death In Qatar Turns Focus On Migrant Workers
A security guard from Kenya who reportedly fell while on duty at Qatar's Lusail Stadium has died in hospital, CNN reported.
The 24-year-old Kenyan security guard, John Njue Kibue, had fallen from the 8th floor of the stadium while on duty.
"We don't have the money to get justice for him, but we want to know what happened," his sister Ann Wanjiru told CNN.
Ahead of the FIFA World Cup, several deaths of migrant workers in Qatar had raised concern.
One of the world's wealthiest countries, Qatar has been transformed since FIFA awarded the tournament in 2010 with a new metro, skyscrapers, highways, new universities, museums and a port built alongside seven new stadiums and one rebuilt.
British newspaper, The Guardian, set off a major storm with a report in February 2021 that 6,500 workers from India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri Lanka died between 2011 and 2020. This was based on official figures from the countries.
Many other media have used this to say that 6,500 people died in World Cup stadiums, fuelling wild social media conspiracy theories.
With Qatar determined to pursue its modernisation, it faces pressure from the UN's International Labour Organisation, unions and foreign governments to improve its data collection to end the controversy.
The ILO, which has had an office in Doha since 2018, called the figures "misleading" and said they had been wrongly linked to World Cup sites without proper context.
The government says the figure takes the deaths of all foreign workers over the decade "and attributes it to the World Cup. This is not true".
An ILO report said there were 50 deaths and 500 serious injuries among foreign workers in 2020.
The UN agency said the figures could be under-reported because of data weaknesses.
NDTV
As per one of your posts, your father was an atheist. You are an atheist too if I am not wrong (correct me if I am wrong).
Atheists obviously may not like gulf states. In that case, they should move to radical liberal California. They may have a good time there.
Problem is people still can't get around the fact that Qatar have been able to host a successful tournament.
On my trip to Doha I met the BBC Sports team who told me what a wonderful experience this was.
Of course they cant say it on radio because of you know who types sitting around but
1. No hooligans
2. No Alcoholics ruining it for everyone
3. Great Stadia
4. World class transport
5. Friendly staff/officials on immigration
What an amazing event and well done to Qatar.
As for those with stories about inequalities in the Middle East, just like UK of 50's and USA of the same time, things have moved on
Expatriates are paid and treated at par in offices - Indians and Pakistanis are earning well as never before. None of them wants to go back to their countries.
Ali dawah a joke of a person. Nobody cares what he had to say.
More anti Qatar / anti Arab sentiments from Gary Linekar and co. BBC should be ashamed of themselves.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gary Linekar just couldn’t help make his shady remarks about a gown that was given to Messi out of respect and honouring him. <a href="https://t.co/zFcJNQTYi0">pic.twitter.com/zFcJNQTYi0</a></p>— Abu Hafsah (@AbuHafsah1) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbuHafsah1/status/1604583422286077954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This is racism from them. They can't seem to tolerate something different.
One thing this tournament has shown is the true colours of certain people.
I went to watch eng-france match and the arrangements were fairly ordinary. In the stadium, there was hardly anything to eat (just 3 food items apart from chips). So from that perspective, it wasn't much fun with hardly any food and no alcohol.
3 food items are not too bad. How much food do you really need?
You go to watch game; not eat.
Speak for yourself when you say 3 food items are enough and that enjoying good food is not part of stadium experience for you. When all you have is 3 types of cold fatayer
(lamb, beef, spinach) to chose from then it's not enough for me or my friends. Esp. when the stadium is 90 mins from city and by the time you get back to city by 2:30 am and all food outlets are closed, then it translates to a pretty bad experience. Now i know Qatar had thrown a few dollars to Pakistan for the cops they hired from pakistan for the event, but that doesn't mean you have to defend Qatar for no rhyme or reason.
<b>Row between head coach Gregg Berhalter and Reyna family 'a sad and pathetic day for US soccer'</b>
The "soap opera" dispute between United States head coach Gregg Berhalter and the Reyna family is "a sad and pathetic day for US soccer," says ex-American international Heather O'Reilly.
Borussia Dortmund midfielder Gio Reyna, 20, did not start a match for Berhalter and the US at the World Cup in Qatar.
Reyna's mother Danielle has since reported Berhalter for kicking his wife when they were teenagers.
"No one wins in this situation," O'Reilly told BBC World Service.
"To bring up old dirty laundry 30 years in the making is just something else in my opinion.
"I would never condone violence or domestic violence, but this was 31 years ago, this was an incident that was reconciled - they [Berhalter and wife Rosalind] have a successful marriage of 25 years."
Berhalter is under investigation by US Soccer after admitting the allegation.
During a speech at a leadership summit in early December, Berhalter, 49, said an unnamed player was nearly sent home from the World Cup for "not meeting expectations on and off the field".
After those comments leaked out, Reyna - capped 16 times by the US - revealed on Instagram he had apologised to his team-mates and Berhalter for his attitude.
Reyna said he had been told by Berhalter that his role at the tournament would be "very limited" and that he let it affect his "training and behaviour".
"I think they [the Reyna family] are frustrated that Gio's name did get dragged in mud," said O'Reilly, speaking to the World Football show.
"But this was just a low, low, low manoeuvre. And one that I just think is nasty.
"This is like youth soccer gossip at the absolute highest level and it's just really sad and, honestly, a pathetic day for US soccer."
Reyna's mother said she reported Berhalter to US Soccer because it was "unfair" that "people were trashing" her son when the head coach had done something "much worse" at a similar age.
Her husband, and Gio's father, is former US captain Claudio Reyna, who played for Rangers, Sunderland and Manchester City during eight years in the UK between 1999-2007.
Mrs Reyna won six caps for the US women's national team and was the room-mate of Berhalter's now wife Rosalind at the time of the incident.
Berhalter's contract expired on 31 December and it is not yet known whether he will be offered a new deal.
O'Reilly believes the spat could cost him his job despite leading the US into the World Cup knockout stage last month.
"Before this, honestly, I would have said that Berhalter should be given a new contract - I think what the US national team did at the tournament was admirable," she added.
"But he did speak at the conference about a young player - and then that got leaked out because everybody knew that he was talking about Gio.
"He made a mistake. A mistake he probably regrets and then it obviously snowballed and he had no control over that snowball building.
"That is something I don't think he can recover from because of all that's come with it."
O'Reilly believes Reyna will be "mortified" by his parents' involvement in the matter, but expects the saga will do less damage to him than to Berhalter in the long-term.
"I think it will take a little bit of time to rebuild his reputation and he has a lot of work to do on the pitch," said O'Reilly.
"He's 20-years-old, he has a lot of game left in front of him and a lot of football in his legs and I think if he learns from this and does things right he will get another chance."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64178996
Qatar World Cup 2022: Fifa 'must deliver on Qatar human rights promises' - Norwegian football chief
Fifa "has a responsibility to deliver the legacy it said it would" on human rights in Qatar following the 2022 World Cup but "is not there yet", according to Norwegian football chief Lise Klaveness.
A year on from the tournament, Klaveness has returned to Qatar to try to find out whether human rights in the Gulf state have been improved.
Speaking from Doha, she told BBC Sport that the World Cup "really pushed some very progressive changes" over the treatment of migrant workers, but also said she had identified a "struggle with implementation" of reforms.
And on the issue of gay rights in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are illegal, Klaveness said "matters are still as sensitive, as controversial, and have not moved at all".
The former Norway international said she had returned to Qatar, where she met with workers, the authorities and NGO representatives, a year on from the tournament in order "to learn, because we think these issues will come up again and again".
"We want to follow up on the promises Fifa made, and football's responsibility on human rights policy," she added.
"For now, we see that Fifa has not really leaned in and engaged in really walking the walk on lifting human rights [to being a prerequisite for hosting] World Cups."
In response, Fifa said its human rights and social responsibility sub-committee is carrying out an independent assessment on whether the steps the body has taken so far are "in line" with its human rights responsibilities, and whether additional steps would be recommended "in view of further strengthening the tournament's legacy for migrant workers".
"International experts and trade union representatives who have assessed and collaborated in the labour rights programme for Fifa World Cup workers have repeatedly recognised that major steps forward have occurred in the labour rights sphere," said a Fifa spokesperson.
"According to the International Labour Organisation, Qatar's labour reforms have been significant and benefitted hundreds of thousands of workers with the World Cup being an important catalyst for these reforms.
"It is undeniable that significant progress has taken place, and it is equally clear that the enforcement of such transformative reforms takes time and that heightened efforts are needed to ensure the reforms benefit all workers in the country."
The Qatar World Cup organisers have been approached for comment.
Qatar World Cup 2022: Fifa 'must deliver on Qatar human rights promises' - Norwegian football chief
Fifa "has a responsibility to deliver" on human rights promises in Qatar but is "not there yet", says Norwegian football chief Lise Klaveness.www.bbc.com