Off-field discussion points from the FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar

[daytrader]

Roy Keane Slams Qatar World Cup During Scathing Live Broadcast: 'It Shouldn't Be Here'

Roy Keane has slapped down any justification for Qatar hosting the World Cup over the country’s human rights record.

The treatment of the LGBTQ+ community, migrant workers and women in Qatar has come under the spotlight since the country won the bid to host the world’s largest football event – with many people calling for the tournament to be boycotted.

On Tuesday morning, Roy – a former player for Manchester United and seen as one of the top Irish footballers in history – told ITV viewers: “The World Cup shouldn’t be here, you shouldn’t be here.”

Speaking ahead of the Group C game between Argentina and Qatar while broadcasting from the host country, Roy also touched on the allegations that Fifa was bribed to let Qatar hold the tournament.

“It’s been mentioned about corruption regarding Fifa... you’ve got a country and the way they treat migrant workers, gay people...”

“I think it’s great that it’s being brought up – they shouldn’t have the World Cup here,” he said, adding: “You can’t treat people like that.

“We all love football, we all love soccer and we’re on about spreading the game but just to dismiss human rights, forgetting it because there’s a football tournament...it’s not right. It shouldn’t be here.”

Roy added: “We’re talking about common decency, how you treat people. Let’s get back to basics, treating people with decency, you’ve got to start and finish with that.”


His comments followed on from fellow commentator Graeme Souness, who suggested it was impossible to “live in a perfect world”.

Graeme claimed Qatar would be hoping critics would now be focused on the game at hand.

“They’ll be praying that football’s a great tournament and that people will only be talking about that going forward, but I’m afraid, there are so many activists out there, they will forever be talking about Qatar and their human rights record.

“But that’s a fact of life, they have to deal with that. And by having a World Cup here, we have a chance to put certain things right, but they’re not going to put everything right.

“We don’t live in a perfect world, no-one lives in a perfect world.”

There have been calls for more activism around the World Cup, but there was disappointment when England, Wales and five other countries decided not to wear the OneLove armband in Qatar this week.

This armband is seen as a symbol of inclusion, which would have been interpreted as a small sign of protest against Qatar’s human rights record.

But, the captains of each team were threatened with a yellow card by Fifa.

Keane later said he thought the players could have worn the armbands for the first game and taken the punishment “whatever that might be”.

“Do it for the first game, you get your yellow card, what a message that would have been from Kane or Bale. Take your medicine, and then the next game, you move on.

“You don’t wear it because obviously you don’t want to be suspended.

“I think it was a big mistake, I think both players particularly when we are talking about Wales and England, they should have stuck to their guns and done it, whatever pressure outside of their own associations. If that’s what you believe, go with it.”

Alex Scott, a former Lioness and current commentator, won huge praise for wearing her OneLove armband while presenting from Qatar on Monday.

MSN

 

[MenInG]

Football presenter Gary Lineker has said he and the BBC should have spoken out more about human rights issues during the 2018 World Cup in Russia.

Lineker, who is fronting BBC coverage of this year's World Cup in Qatar, said: "I think we were sport washed four years ago when it was in Russia."

There were calls for Russia to be stripped of the 2018 tournament after it annexed Crimea in 2014.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

People are hacking at their noses to spite the face

 

[MenInG]

UK Foreign Secretary James Cleverly has just returned from Doha and is the most senior minister to have attended the World Cup so far.

Asked by the BBC's Diplomatic Correspondent James Landale if Qatar was safe for gay British football fans, Cleverly said he's made it clear "we feel very strongly about this issue".

"The Qataris know how seriously we take this issue and they have taken real steps to ensure gay football fans are safe, do feel secure and can enjoy themselves when watching the tournaments," he told the BBC.

When asked if fans should have to take off rainbow clothing when entering stadiums, he added that the rules about what happens there are a matter for FIFA.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Roy Keane Slams Qatar World Cup During Scathing Live Broadcast: 'It Shouldn't Be Here'

Roy Keane has slapped down any justification for Qatar hosting the World Cup over the country’s human rights record.

MSN

He's happy enough to take the money for his commentary stints though. If he felt that badly about it why not just boycott the tournament?

Instead he's profiting from it.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

He's happy enough to take the money for his commentary stints though. If he felt that badly about it why not just boycott the tournament?

Instead he's profiting from it.

Souness bit yesterday and been quite sensible. He brought up the World Cup in Argentina when the Junta was ruling. They've only got an issue because they're Arab. It's so blatant

 

[AAli98]

Ian wright moaning on ITV about human rights etc… ITV’s coverage is sponsored by Emirates. The state airline of a country where homosexuality is illegal. Can’t make this stuff up.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unfortunate that Qatar is being subjected to a barrage of propaganda as host of FIFA World Cup. It should rather be commended for wonderful arrangements for mega event & being a promoter of global peace & development. Pakistan stands in solidarity with HH Emir & peole of Qatar &#55356;&#56822;&#55356;&#56806;</p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1595366218797813761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2022</a></blockquote>
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[MenInG]

The German football federation is investigating whether it is legal for Fifa to threaten players with sanction for wearing the OneLove armband at the World Cup in Qatar.

The captains of seven European nations had planned to wear the armband to promote diversity and inclusion.

But the plans were dropped following Fifa's threat of players being booked.

"Fifa has forbidden us from using a symbol of diversity and human rights," said DFB media director Steffen Simon.

"They combined this with massive threats of sporting sanctions without specifying them.

"The DFB is checking whether this action by Fifa was legal."

Germany - who begin their World Cup campaign against Japan on Wednesday - were one of the teams who had planned to wear the armband, along with England, Wales, Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands and Switzerland.

Simon told German media outlet Bild that the DFB has contacted the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) over the issue and is hoping captain Manuel Neuer will be able to wear the OneLove armband for his side's second Group E game against Spain on Sunday.

Simon had previously said the seven nations were faced with "extreme blackmail" from Fifa.

German supermarket chain Rewe has suspended its advertising deal with the DFB in a bid to distance itself from Fifa.

Fifa has brought forward its own 'No Discrimination' campaign, which had been due to start from the quarter-finals.

Captains will now be permitted to wear a No Discrimination armband for the duration of the tournament.

Kane wore the Fifa armband as England began their World Cup campaign with a 6-2 win against Iran on Monday, with the Three Lions also taking the knee before kick-off.

It was announced in September that the captains of 10 European nations - England, Wales, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland and the Netherlands - would wear a OneLove armband at Nations League games and the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

Norway and Sweden did not qualify for the World Cup while France captain Hugo Lloris said he would not wear the armband because he wanted to "show respect" to Qatar.

The Netherlands began the OneLove campaign before Euro 2020 to promote diversity and inclusion, and as a message against discrimination.

Same-sex relationships and the promotion of same-sex relationships are criminalised in Qatar, because they are considered immoral under Islamic Sharia law.

Former England winger Andros Townsend has said he is "a bit uneasy" about protests against Qatar's stance on LGBTQ+ rights in the country given its basis in Islamic Sharia law.

Speaking on TalkSport, the Everton winger said Muslim players respect campaigns such as rainbow laces in the UK, but they "can't promote it because they fear they are going against their religion".

He added: "It's difficult - when they are in our country they respect our beliefs. We're coming to their country, we don't agree with it, but it's still their religious belief.

"I'm a bit uneasy that we're coming here and protesting and upsetting a culture when these guys are in their own country."

BBC

 

[Sirris]

German team are the biggest joker. How about not going to the world cup instead of gimmicks?

 

[sweep_shot]

Souness bit yesterday and been quite sensible. He brought up the World Cup in Argentina when the Junta was ruling. They've only got an issue because they're Arab. It's so blatant

Yes. All these whining are happening because Qatar is an Arab country and a Muslim country. That's what it seems like.

I didn't see any armband talk during last World Cup in Russia. Russia also doesn't see LGBTQ favorably.

 

[JaDed]

Good too see the silent protests, well done by teams that are doing it, hopefully soon against slave labor and corruption as well .

 

[sweep_shot]

Good too see the silent protests, well done by teams that are doing it.

Where was the "silent protest" in 2018 World Cup?

I didn't see any armband talk among players.

 

[Kriketer]

Good too see the silent protests, well done by teams that are doing it, hopefully soon against slave labor and corruption as well .

Perhaps Indian team should start doing it against corruption when anthem is being played in cricket games. They could also do it for child labour and massive poverty where top crop of India rakes majority of the share and leaves awaam in poverty. They could also do it for their government's fascism against minority

 

[The_KING]

Love seeing Germany lose. Protest now losers.

Also, it is rich of countries like Germany to cry about human rights, given their history.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Good too see the silent protests, well done by teams that are doing it, hopefully soon against slave labor and corruption as well .

Why are you such a fan of silent protests? The best protest of all would be a loud and proud one where the protesting teams walked out of the World Cup and denounced unequivocally their own part in awarding the tournament to a Muslim country where being gay is outlawed.

 

[Kriketer]

Stop getting so triggered its only a protest that too silent one lol.
WC is still being held in Qatar.

Will Indian team take the knee for all the corruption, child labour, poverty, fascist government etc in their country?

 

[MenInG]

Love seeing Germany lose. Protest now losers.

Also, it is rich of countries like Germany to cry about human rights, given their history.

 

[sweep_shot]

Most European teams (including Germany) are now average to below-average. Only France, Belgium, and Italy are good.

I expect Brazil or Argentina to lift the trophy.

 

[Technics 1210]

I am pretty sure Ozil in the past raised issues against human rights in China while playing for Germany, but the German football association stated not to mix politics with sports.

Hypocrits to the max.

 

[Technics 1210]

Most European teams (including Germany) are now average to below-average. Only France, Belgium, and Italy are good.

I expect Brazil or Argentina to lift the trophy.

Italy failed to qualify for this WC.

 

[sweep_shot]

Italy failed to qualify for this WC.

I know. But, Italy are not that bad. They won the Euro.

They didn't qualify because of one shock upset. European qualification system is pretty unfair and messed up.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Most European teams (including Germany) are now average to below-average. Only France, Belgium, and Italy are good.

I expect Brazil or Argentina to lift the trophy.

Argentina aren't going to recover from yesterday. Brazil we'll see they seem overrated. France still look the best team.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Germans got to practice their shocked faces for after the game before the game

 

[The_KING]

So cringe and pathetic.

This is the same country who shunned Mesut Ozil (Turkish Muslim) after the disastrous 2018 World Cup but they have the nerve to cry about human rights and equality. Hypocrites.

 

[MenInG]

Stick to Qatar.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

If the most vocal had the true conviction of their belief, let alone a yellow, which is hilarious, they wouldn't go. Let alone the barefaced liars earning a wage from it.

Not to mention the hypocrisy in Western countries allowing immigrants to drown to their deaths. These labourers are earning a livin, pitiful it may be, that they simply wouldn't have elsewhere.

It's a devil's pact

 

[James]

<b>Qatar has taken "real steps" to ensure the safety of gay fans attending the World Cup, Foreign Secretary James Cleverly has said.</b>

Mr Cleverley told the BBC he had had "difficult conversations" with Qatari counterparts and had been clear how seriously the UK takes the issue.

The build-up to the tournament has seen concerns raised over LGBT as well as broader human rights in Qatar.

Homosexuality remains illegal under the country's laws.

Mr Cleverly has just returned from Qatar, where he met with British police and consular officials as well as ministers from the Qatari government.

He is the most senior British minister to attend the World Cup so far.

Asked whether Qatar was safe for gay fans, he said gay rights was an issue he had "brought up over a number of years" while working with the hosts in preparation for the event.

"I've made it clear that we feel very strongly about this issue and actually one of the advantages about having a strong relationship with other countries is you can have these difficult conversations," he said.

"The Qataris know how seriously we take this issue and they have taken real steps to ensure that gay football fans are safe and do feel secure and can enjoy the football."

Mr Cleverly was asked whether he thought fans should be allowed to wear rainbow hats in support of LGBT rights while attending games.

Fans attending Wales' match against the United States on Monday, including former women's team captain Laura McAllister, reported being told to remove the hats ahead of the game.

Ms McAllister later said the behaviour of officials at the game had been "pretty heavy handed" and "quite intimidating".

Mr Cleverly said that the "rules for what goes on in the stadia" were a matter for Fifa and the football authorities.

Speaking to LBC ahead of the tournament, he called on fans to "please... be respectful of the host nation" and show "a little bit of flex and compromise".

Asked by the BBC whether the economic and security benefits of the UK's relationship with Qatar were more important than promoting its values abroad, he said it was a "completely artificial choice".

"The values underpin everything we do," he said. "At no point in [the conversations I recently had with my Qatari opposite number] did we bring up any of the kind of economic or commercial stuff.

"This was about ensuring that the English and Welsh fans going over to enjoy the football were safe and happy and that they enjoyed themselves whilst watching the tournament."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63725627

 

[JaDed]

Slave labor issues not being highlighted yet by players probably coz their jerseys came from the same.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Slave labor issues not being highlighted yet by players probably coz their jerseys came from the same.

And the footballs made in Pakistan for pennies

 

[GLORY OF '92]

And the footballs made in Pakistan for pennies

Don't worry about Pakistan

 

[Firebat]

Switzerland captain Granit Xhaka on copying Germany’s ‘One Love’ armband gesture:

“I don’t think we need to do anything as the Swiss team. We need to respect the rules & concentrate on our football, that’s all I intend to do. We’re here to play football & not hand out lessons to anyone.”

 

[sweep_shot]

Switzerland captain Granit Xhaka on copying Germany’s ‘One Love’ armband gesture:

“I don’t think we need to do anything as the Swiss team. We need to respect the rules & concentrate on our football, that’s all I intend to do. We’re here to play football & not hand out lessons to anyone.”

Respect.

Take note, Germany and England.

 

[Champ_Pal]

If the most vocal had the true conviction of their belief, let alone a yellow, which is hilarious, they wouldn't go. Let alone the barefaced liars earning a wage from it.

Not to mention the hypocrisy in Western countries allowing immigrants to drown to their deaths. These labourers are earning a livin, pitiful it may be, that they simply wouldn't have elsewhere.

It's a devil's pact

So they have to welcome illegal immigrants from Africa and Asia?

Though I believe sport should not be used to send political or religious messages or human rights, your comparison of Asian worker conditions in Qatar to illegal immigrants is a joke.

 

[Champ_Pal]

So cringe and pathetic.

This is the same country who shunned Mesut Ozil (Turkish Muslim) after the disastrous 2018 World Cup but they have the nerve to cry about human rights and equality. Hypocrites.

I don’t follow football, but was Mesut Ozil fired for being a Muslim?

 

[daytrader]

World Cup 2022: Japan's fans clean up stadium after win over Germany

The magnitude of their win over Germany could have seen them go off into the night in celebration but Japan's fans demonstrated that the best manners and habits are ingrained, no matter the situation.

Come full-time, the stands of sporting stadia are usually littered with used food trays and wrappers and empty drinks cups, left behind for someone else to clean up.

But not when the Samurai Blue are in town.

Their players, fresh from a 2-1 victory over the four-time champions in their World Cup opener, had barely left the pitch when the Japanese in the crowd pressed pause on the party to tidy up after themselves at Khalifa International Stadium in Qatar.

They did the same at the World Cup in Russia four years ago, most notably after a 3-2 defeat by Belgium in the last 16, and again in the 2022 tournament opener between hosts Qatar and Ecuador on Sunday - a match their team wasn't involved in.

In Japan, cleanliness is a part of the culture and is drilled into its people from early childhood.

In 2018, Scott North, a professor of sociology at Osaka University, told the BBC that tidying up is a way Japanese people "demonstrate pride in their way of life".

"Cleaning up after football matches is an extension of basic behaviours that are taught in school, where the children clean their school classrooms and hallways," he said.

Japan play Costa Rica in their next Group E fixture on Sunday, followed by Spain on Thursday.

But even if they don't win the World Cup, their fans are already winners.

BBC

 

[MenInG]

Singer Will Young urges Beckham to donate to LGBTQ+ charities in Qatar

Will Young has urged David Beckham to make an annual financial donation to help LGBTQIA+ charities in Qatar after he signed a controversial deal with the World Cup hosts to become a paid ambassador for the country.

In a statement on Instagram, the singer and former Pop Idol winner said he was "disappointed" in former England footballer following his involvement in the World Cup.

He went on to ask Beckham to donate £1 million to LGBTQIA+ charities in Qatar for every year he is a paid ambassador.

"Qatar is of course not the only country in the world with appalling records on human rights. The argument that sport is not political is duplicitous and two-faced," he wrote.

"What is undoubtedly clear however is a star like you David Beckham who I once sang for (not for any money I hasten to add) at your birthday has disappointed me more than I can say."

This month, comedian Joe Lycett pledged to shred £10,000 of his own money if Beckham failed to end his controversial multimillion-pound World Cup promotion deal with Qatar.

When Beckham failed to respond, or acknowledge the ultimatum in any way, Lycett appeared to carry out his promise and livestreamed himself dropping the money into a wood-chipper.

He later revealed that he had not shred the money and had instead donated the money to LGBTQ+ charities.

 

[MenInG]

Germany players will not face FIFA disciplinary action for covering their mouths

Germany will not face FIFA disciplinary action for covering their mouths in their pre-match gesture today, Sky News understands.

Earlier today, Germany's players covered their mouths during a team photo at the World Cup in an apparent protest against FIFA's OneLove armband ban.

The FA declined to comment on whether the England team would copy the German gesture ahead of their match against the US on Friday.

A tweet from the German federation read: "We wanted to use our captain's armband to take a stand for values that we hold in the Germany national team: diversity and mutual respect. Together with other nations, we wanted our voice to be heard.

"It wasn't about making a political statement - human rights are non-negotiable. That should be taken for granted, but it still isn't the case. That's why this message is so important to us. Denying us the armband is the same as denying us a voice. We stand by our position."

SKY

 

[cricketjoshila]

Will Indian team take the knee for all the corruption, child labour, poverty, fascist government etc in their country?

We will decide how and on what we will protest. No?

 

[cricketjoshila]

FIFA will be in trouble. The way FIFA functions it assumes its a sovereign country beyond laws. Any attempt by any court or authority to do anything is retaliated by threats or suspension of that country's association. This cannot go on.

These countries and associations should have protested and refused to play in Qatar 4 years back. Why now?

 

[James]

Respect.

Take note, Germany and England.

For you it’s consistently been “no protest = respect” or “protest = kick them out of the country”. It’s an extremely binary way of thinking. These can’t be the only two valid scenarios.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

So they have to welcome illegal immigrants from Africa and Asia?

Though I believe sport should not be used to send political or religious messages or human rights, your comparison of Asian worker conditions in Qatar to illegal immigrants is a joke.

They need to stop being hypocrites

 

[Junaids]

The great news is that, just like with Argentina in 1978, the World Cup has drawn the attention of the western public to what vile, misogynistic states the middle eastern nations are.

In terms of human rights - including for gays and minorities - it is a fake concept to say we should all respect one another’s prejudices and bad behaviour.

We absolutely should not. People who don’t respect gays and minorities can expect no respect or consideration from those of us who do.

This World Cup has widened the schism between progressive western nations and medieval middle eastern ones. And frankly, I’m delighted.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

The great news is that, just like with Argentina in 1978, the World Cup has drawn the attention of the western public to what vile, misogynistic states the middle eastern nations are.

In terms of human rights - including for gays and minorities - it is a fake concept to say we should all respect one another’s prejudices and bad behaviour.

We absolutely should not. People who don’t respect gays and minorities can expect no respect or consideration from those of us who do.

This World Cup has widened the schism between progressive western nations and medieval middle eastern ones. And frankly, I’m delighted.

Only England holds up to scrutiny for our consistent support for the anti-racism movement though 20 years too late. I don't see why LGBTQ+*= takes the limelight

https://youtu.be/VxCRlzSBjUs?t=160 2:40

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[MenInG]

Wales had the rainbow flag on prominent display at their training base in Qatar on Wednesday, sending a defiant message to World Cup organisers.

There were pre-tournament promises that teams and fans would be able to show support of LGBTQ+ rights in the Gulf state, where homosexuality is illegal.

But a last-minute U-turn saw captain Gareth Bale warned against wearing a OneLove armband or he could be booked.

The Football Association of Wales chief said the players had been silenced.

In an interview with ITV, Noel Mooney said he was "furious" with Fifa's late decision to threaten players from Wales, England and other European nations with sporting sanctions if they wore the armband.

"To lay that one on us is pretty cheap and pretty low, to be frank. We are really disappointed by that attitude.

"We have been absolutely furious about this. We have given Fifa everything we have got in terms of how furious we are about this decision. We think it was a terrible decision.

"We didn't back down. We had to look at the sporting sanction that was there.

"We had said we would accept fines, whatever sanctions came, but when it turned at the very last moment to specific sporting sanctions that would have stopped our players taking the field of play potentially, that is a different thing. It was done so late."

 

[Kriketer]

The great news is that, just like with Argentina in 1978, the World Cup has drawn the attention of the western public to what vile, misogynistic states the middle eastern nations are.

In terms of human rights - including for gays and minorities - it is a fake concept to say we should all respect one another’s prejudices and bad behaviour.

We absolutely should not. People who don’t respect gays and minorities can expect no respect or consideration from those of us who do.

This World Cup has widened the schism between progressive western nations and medieval middle eastern ones. And frankly, I’m delighted.

The only ones getting exposed are the so called progressive ones of how absolute intoeorant, clueless and hypocrites they are of the fact that there are different cultures and regions in the world with different values. Rejecting same sex, doesn't make you medieval, that"s such a rubbish statement and the reason why they keep coming across as spolied brats who can only see the world from their westernised glasses. If anything Westerners hyporicry is getting exposed at full swing and frankly it's good to see how ignorant, biased and intolerant they are, not a surprise as its a known fact but it has been exposed so badly this time.

 

[Kriketer]

We will decide how and on what we will protest. No?

It was an Indian poster suggesting slave labour and corruption protest... Was just reminding him those issues are world wide and cherry picking per your licking (usually when it's an Islamic country) is quite obvious. Many severe issues in India and in all part of the world when they drop bombs on sovereign countries, no fuss no cry. No fuss when major tournaments were held in Russia or China, but now that its a Muslim country, everything is becoming an issue for Islamophobes.

Perhaps a better cause for Indian team will be to take the knee to stop sending labour class to gulf countries if its so evil? There you go, that's a good cause. No?

 

[sweep_shot]

This World Cup has widened the schism between progressive western nations and medieval middle eastern ones. And frankly, I’m delighted.

Do you want to know how much Qatar invested in UK? Over 40-billion GBP.

This fake chest thumping can't mask the fact progressive west is declining.

There's a reason why Qatar isn't being condemned by whole world and only by 8-10 western countries.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Switzerland captain Granit Xhaka on copying Germany’s ‘One Love’ armband gesture:

“I don’t think we need to do anything as the Swiss team. We need to respect the rules & concentrate on our football, that’s all I intend to do. We’re here to play football & not hand out lessons to anyone.”

Ouch. I bet the German team cringed reading that after their humiliating loss to Japan yesterday.

Maybe before the next game just give your opponents a thought and leave the politics to your politicians.

 

[MenInG]

Ouch. I bet the German team cringed reading that after their humiliating loss to Japan yesterday.

Maybe before the next game just give your opponents a thought and leave the politics to your politicians.

Further cringe opportunities for the Germans....

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Louis van Gaal has questioned Germany’s defiant stance against Fifa by stating the Netherlands will not take the “risk” of doing the same because they are at Qatar 2022 to be world champions.

Before Germany’s 2-1 loss to Japan on Wednesday the team lined up for a photograph with their hands over their mouths to signal they would not be silenced, and six players, including the captain, Manuel Neuer, wore boots with rainbow colours on the front. This followed Fifa instructing seven European nations, including Germany, that their captains should not wear the OneLove armband, which stands for tolerance, diversity and LGBTQ+ rights.

After the shock defeat Germany faced criticism that their protest had caused a lack of focus. Van Gaal was asked about this. “That is the question,” he said. “I don’t want to run that risk – we’re here to be a world champion … We put a full stop behind all the political issues [last] Thursday when we invited the migrants and we have this purpose. We are not going to have that tarnished by the actions of Fifa or whichever other organisation.”

Belgium’s Eden Hazard echoed Van Gaal. “Germany’s gesture? They would’ve done better if they didn’t do it and tried to win,” the forward told RMC Sport. “We’re here to play football, I’m not here to convey a political message.”

It was put to Van Gaal that those back home were experiencing the World Cup differently because the spotlight remained on Qatar’s human rights issues. “That has got to do with the environment in the Netherlands,” said the 71-year-old. “A different environment than what we see here.

“Everything has been organised in an excellent way. No criticism whatsoever. Perhaps it’s all about human rights [at home] and maybe rightly so but also perhaps not rightly so. I believe I’ve responded enough to that.”

Cody Gakpo scored the Netherlands’ second in their opening 2-0 win against Senegal, the 23-year-old’s fourth goal in his 10 games. Van Gaal believes the PSV forward can be a breakout player of the World Cup. “He is a player with a lot of talent and possibilities,” said the coach.

“He is young and is a player who is still evolving and has a lot of room for improvement and has a personality that will do everything that it takes. Whether he will be a star at this World Cup, I don’t know, but it is possible.”

The Netherlands face Ecuador on Friday with Memphis Depay, who had had a hamstring problem, being fit to play a half at least after managing half an hour against Senegal. Van Gaal admitted selecting him in the squad contravened his usual code regarding players who are not fully fit.

“This is a player that is quite extraordinary [so] I’ve set aside my principles because I believe he is incredibly important to us,” Van Gaal said. “I explained this to the players. I do all this for Memphis and the players understand this. He played 30 minutes and really isn’t grappling too much with the issue so we’re proceeding to the next step, which is 45 minutes.”

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...n-gaal-netherlands-germany-world-cup-protests

 

[The_KING]

I don’t follow football, but was Mesut Ozil fired for being a Muslim?

Ozil spoke out against the mistreatment of Muslims in China and he didn't play a game again for Arsenal and Germany. The German national team didn't support Ozil.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Ozil spoke out against the mistreatment of Muslims in China and he didn't play a game again for Arsenal and Germany. The German national team didn't support Ozil.

No one can talk ill about china and get away with it. Chinese money is everywhere. It’s the same in NBA too. Billions of dollars are involved in it.

Woke west will not speak a word against China. Even Pakistan does not speak out against china.

 

[MenInG]

England, Wales and five other European nations feared their captains would be exposed to “unlimited liability” and would have faced suspensions if they had defied Fifa’s banning of the pro-diversity OneLove armband during the World Cup.

Despite facing criticism for backing down after coming under pressure from Fifa, the English Football Association’s options were limited by concerns that the sporting sanctions for Harry Kane could have been worse than an instant booking if the captain had worn the armband against Iran. There were also fears that Gareth Southgate’s side could have been prevented from entering the field.

The FA’s worries were shared by the other six countries involved in the OneLove campaign after talks with world football’s governing body, with those close to the process left with the impression that “Fifa could do anything” to any captain who wore the armband in Qatar.

The German federation has described Fifa’s behaviour as “extreme blackmail” and sources have indicated there was no clarity over whether the captains would merely receive a caution.

England, Wales, Belgium, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Germany and Denmark feared their captains could be banned. It was unclear whether any suspension would be limited to one match. None of the countries were prepared to put their players in that position. A source said that the captains would have risked “unlimited liability” if they had defied Fifa’s warnings.

Separately the FA was concerned that England’s game against Iran would not have started if Kane had tried to leave the dressing room with the armband. The FA is exploring if it will be legally possible to challenge the threat of sporting sanctions, and there has been fury within the seven associations about Fifa’s behaviour.

Suggestions that Kane could have created an iconic moment by walking on to the pitch with the armband and receiving an instant booking are misplaced. The yellow card would have been shown in the dressing room, stripping away any potential symbolism.

Southgate, speaking before Friday’s game against the USA, was asked about the threat of sanctions for Kane. “I don’t know all the ins and outs because I wasn’t in the meeting but there was definitely a feel there were sanctions and not all of those were really clear, I think, so the decision was taken out of the hands of Harry,” England’s head coach said.

“The decision from the organisation was: ‘We’re not even putting the armband in the dressing room.’ There is no discussion. The player had no say.”

Germany’s players were praised for covering their mouths with their hands to suggest they had been gagged by Fifa before their game against Japan on Wednesday. Six players, including the captain, Manuel Neuer, also wore Adidas boots with rainbow stitching during the team’s shock 2-1 defeat against Japan, and the squad sported tops with rainbow colours on their sleeves in the warm-up.

Germany have faced no punishment from Fifa but Southgate questioned whether there would be any value in England mounting a similar form of protest on Friday.

“I’m quite comfortable with our position and I think we should be confident in what we stand for,” Southgate said. “There was a plan – we weren’t able to carry out that plan. What do we do now? Do we all try to outdo each other on a gesture that, however we do it, probably won’t be enough.

“We want to support the LGBTQ community in particular and recognise that a lot of those people aren’t here with us, and we wanted them here with us. But we could also rush into doing things that don’t really make any difference.

“I understand that is going to be uncomfortable for people because I could be criticised, the captain has been criticised, the organisation will be criticised. I’m very comfortable with what I stand for, and how I deal with people every day of my life is more important than a statement that might land well and might not.”

Kane trained on Thursday and will start on Friday after an injury scare. Southgate indicated that England, who would seal progress from Group B by beating the USA, will name an unchanged side against Gregg Berhalter’s team. James Maddison is still recovering from a knee injury.

Harry Maguire, who has recovered from the dehydration that forced him off against Iran, has opened up on the criticism he has faced and compared it to the negativity aimed at his former Manchester United teammate Cristiano Ronaldo. “He’s one of the greatest players ever and gets criticised day in, day out,” he said. “So if it’s going to happen to him I think it’s part and parcel of the game.”

Southgate revealed that Prince William had told England’s players to block out distractions on social media. “We couldn’t have paid him for better advice,” Southgate said.

Guardian

 

[SpiritOf1903]

No one can talk ill about china and get away with it. Chinese money is everywhere. It’s the same in NBA too. Billions of dollars are involved in it.

Woke west will not speak a word against China. Even Pakistan does not speak out against china.

Pakistan's under the pump of china. It was actually Gundogan and Ozil meeting Erdogan which created the ostracism. I wonder if Ilkay was being ironic...

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan's under the pump of china. It was actually Gundogan and Ozil meeting Erdogan which created the ostracism. I wonder if Ilkay was being ironic...

And we stop this discussion here.

Stick to Qatar, World Cup

 

[Rajdeep]

If the world cup was played in India and likes of BBC was talking about Kashmir issue, same posters who are criticizing now for speaking against human rights would be siding with them. The hypocrisy is astounding but not surprising.

Excellent stuff from west to unanimously criticize the gross human rights violation happening in middle east. Their treatment of migrant workers from Indian subcontinent is beyond shameful. I was watching a BBC news story where a young guy from a remote village of Nepal died during construction work for the world cup. His 70 year old father and 7 year son cremating the body together was heartbreaking to watch. Zero compensation to the family from the construction company in Qatar. It is very good on the part of BBC going to these remote villages in South Asia and covering these stories for entire world to watch the reality.

This is a world cup. Qatar should have known that people from across the globe and cultures would be travelling. Removing wrist bands, banning alcohol, calling Zakir Naik to give his sermons...what are they upto?

If alcohol is such a big issue, why don't they ban it in Qatar Airways? Afterall getting drunk and misbehaving mid air is worse than in a stadium.

Though not much west can do as middle east has lots of investment in UK/US. But just bcoz someone is rich dosen't mean you cannot criticize.

Farce of a world cup.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

If the world cup was played in India and likes of BBC was talking about Kashmir issue, same posters who are criticizing now for speaking against human rights would be siding with them. The hypocrisy is astounding but not surprising.

Excellent stuff from west to unanimously criticize the gross human rights violation happening in middle east. Their treatment of migrant workers from Indian subcontinent is beyond shameful. I was watching a BBC news story where a young guy from a remote village of Nepal died during construction work for the world cup. His 70 year old father and 7 year son cremating the body together was heartbreaking to watch. Zero compensation to the family from the construction company in Qatar. It is very good on the part of BBC going to these remote villages in South Asia and covering these stories for entire world to watch the reality.

This is a world cup. Qatar should have known that people from across the globe and cultures would be travelling. Removing wrist bands, banning alcohol, calling Zakir Naik to give his sermons...what are they upto?

If alcohol is such a big issue, why don't they ban it in Qatar Airways? Afterall getting drunk and misbehaving mid air is worse than in a stadium.

Though not much west can do as middle east has lots of investment in UK/US. But just bcoz someone is rich dosen't mean you cannot criticize.

Farce of a world cup.

Except they didn't do it for Russia so why would they India?.

Who is Qatar occupying?.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If the world cup was played in India and likes of BBC was talking about Kashmir issue, same posters who are criticizing now for speaking against human rights would be siding with them. The hypocrisy is astounding but not surprising.

Excellent stuff from west to unanimously criticize the gross human rights violation happening in middle east. Their treatment of migrant workers from Indian subcontinent is beyond shameful. I was watching a BBC news story where a young guy from a remote village of Nepal died during construction work for the world cup. His 70 year old father and 7 year son cremating the body together was heartbreaking to watch. Zero compensation to the family from the construction company in Qatar. It is very good on the part of BBC going to these remote villages in South Asia and covering these stories for entire world to watch the reality.

This is a world cup. Qatar should have known that people from across the globe and cultures would be travelling. Removing wrist bands, banning alcohol, calling Zakir Naik to give his sermons...what are they upto?

If alcohol is such a big issue, why don't they ban it in Qatar Airways? Afterall getting drunk and misbehaving mid air is worse than in a stadium.

Though not much west can do as middle east has lots of investment in UK/US. But just bcoz someone is rich dosen't mean you cannot criticize.

Farce of a world cup.

We could maybe take you seriously if you weren't the same poster who started a thread crying about the UK's condescending treatment of PM Rishi Sunak on account of him being Indian. Then ran away when challenged on it.

 

[Rajdeep]

We could maybe take you seriously if you weren't the same poster who started a thread crying about the UK's condescending treatment of PM Rishi Sunak on account of him being Indian. Then ran away when challenged on it.

Dare I say, it is not the case of being you not taking me seriously but lack of counter arguement from on part and hence an excuse to take an easy pass. The way I see it I have never ran away from any thread or discussion. If I missed any post, pls tag me in and I would be more than happy to respond. Lets discuss Qatar's gross violation of human rights in this thread and that too seriously.

 

[szrana007]

If the world cup was played in India and likes of BBC was talking about Kashmir issue, same posters who are criticizing now for speaking against human rights would be siding with them. The hypocrisy is astounding but not surprising.

Excellent stuff from west to unanimously criticize the gross human rights violation happening in middle east. Their treatment of migrant workers from Indian subcontinent is beyond shameful. I was watching a BBC news story where a young guy from a remote village of Nepal died during construction work for the world cup. His 70 year old father and 7 year son cremating the body together was heartbreaking to watch. Zero compensation to the family from the construction company in Qatar. It is very good on the part of BBC going to these remote villages in South Asia and covering these stories for entire world to watch the reality.

This is a world cup. Qatar should have known that people from across the globe and cultures would be travelling. Removing wrist bands, banning alcohol, calling Zakir Naik to give his sermons...what are they upto?

If alcohol is such a big issue, why don't they ban it in Qatar Airways? Afterall getting drunk and misbehaving mid air is worse than in a stadium.

Though not much west can do as middle east has lots of investment in UK/US. But just bcoz someone is rich dosen't mean you cannot criticize.

Farce of a world cup.

You are only upset because Qatar, an Islamic country is hosting the World Cup.

As for violations of human rights, ironic coming from a Modi and Hindutva supporter.

 

[sweep_shot]

Dare I say, it is not the case of being you not taking me seriously but lack of counter arguement from on part and hence an excuse to take an easy pass. The way I see it I have never ran away from any thread or discussion. If I missed any post, pls tag me in and I would be more than happy to respond. Lets discuss Qatar's gross violation of human rights in this thread and that too seriously.

When you say human rights violation, what do you mean exactly? Be specific.

Are you referring to LGBTQ or migrant workers?

 

[Kriketer]

There are obvious migrant labour worker issues but they do get paid and it gets really hot for most of the year so one needs to consider those facts. Why doesn't India simply stop sending labour to gulf?

Indians and West are only making more of a fuss because its an Islamic country. There are equally gross human rights violation all across and these naysayers just don't bother commenting on it. There are over 10-15 million child labour in India and yet they would never make a fuss over it, it will be nice if in next cricket world cup western teams can highlight it and roll up an armband supporting child labour end. Other gross issues like Hindudva facism need to be highlighted as well, and Kashmir issue where 1 million Indian army has tortured thousands of innocent Kashmiris for decades, need armbands for those as well. Its very easy picking on others when you own house has gross human rights issues and Indians in this thread are exposing their closet islamophobic sentiment.

 

[Browncaps]

Mods please post the entire article here, I’m on phone so cannot do so.

https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...-not-seeing-israelis-told-to-keep-low-profile

 

[JaDed]

There are obvious migrant labour worker issues but they do get paid and it gets really hot for most of the year so one needs to consider those facts. Why doesn't India simply stop sending labour to gulf?

Indians and West are only making more of a fuss because its an Islamic country. There are equally gross human rights violation all across and these naysayers just don't bother commenting on it. There are over 10-15 million child labour in India and yet they would never make a fuss over it, it will be nice if in next cricket world cup western teams can highlight it and roll up an armband supporting child labour end. Other gross issues like Hindudva facism need to be highlighted as well, and Kashmir issue where 1 million Indian army has tortured thousands of innocent Kashmiris for decades, need armbands for those as well. Its very easy picking on others when you own house has gross human rights issues and Indians in this thread are exposing their closet islamophobic sentiment.

And there are multiple threads on it , this one is wrt Qatar wc and its issues.

 

[JaDed]

I agree that the focus on Qatar’s issues is actually more than it was before, well done to Western nations for highlighting the issues.

 

[sweep_shot]

I agree that the focus on Qatar’s issues is actually more than it was before, well done to Western nations for highlighting the issues.

Apart from migrant worker issue (which should be rectified), there is no other issue really.

Brazil's Neymar was asked whether or not he supported Qatar on a certain "issue". His response was, "In our dressings room, we love women." I think Neymar's statement pretty much sums up the majority position regarding Qatar.

Whatever migrant worker issue there is in Qatar, you can probably find same issue in other Asian countries (China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.). That issue isn't exclusive to Qatar. I think Qatar is being singled out because it is a Muslim country.

 

[KingKhanWC]

There are obvious migrant labour worker issues but they do get paid and it gets really hot for most of the year so one needs to consider those facts. Why doesn't India simply stop sending labour to gulf?

Indians and West are only making more of a fuss because its an Islamic country. There are equally gross human rights violation all across and these naysayers just don't bother commenting on it. There are over 10-15 million child labour in India and yet they would never make a fuss over it, it will be nice if in next cricket world cup western teams can highlight it and roll up an armband supporting child labour end. Other gross issues like Hindudva facism need to be highlighted as well, and Kashmir issue where 1 million Indian army has tortured thousands of innocent Kashmiris for decades, need armbands for those as well. Its very easy picking on others when you own house has gross human rights issues and Indians in this thread are exposing their closet islamophobic sentiment.

Indians calling out Qatar is hillarious. India has millions of child prostitutes, it really should not make a fool of its nation. Qatar is like heaven compared to India a 3rd world nation.


On other notes, Iranians sang their national anthem and the western media is crying lol.

English fans tried to walk into the Stadium dressed as Crusaders but werent allowed in.

Good on Qatar for standing up to western hypocrisy and hate.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I agree that the focus on Qatar’s issues is actually more than it was before, well done to Western nations for highlighting the issues.

Every Indian in India wold give their right arm to live in Qatar. Your nation is a dump compared to it and abuses millions on a daily basis. Please keep your high horse to Bollywood not here pls.

 

[sweep_shot]

Indians calling out Qatar is hillarious. India has millions of child prostitutes, it really should not make a fool of its nation. Qatar is like heaven compared to India a 3rd world nation.


On other notes, Iranians sang their national anthem and the western media is crying lol.

English fans tried to walk into the Stadium dressed as Crusaders but werent allowed in.

Good on Qatar for standing up to western hypocrisy and hate.

Indeed.

We all know what kind of rights and conditions workers have in India. It is not much better. LOL. Not just India but entire region is like that.

 

[JaDed]

Apart from migrant worker issue (which should be rectified), there is no other issue really.

Brazil's Neymar was asked whether or not he supported Qatar on a certain "issue". His response was, "In our dressings room, we love women." I think Neymar's statement pretty much sums up the majority position regarding Qatar.

Whatever migrant worker issue there is in Qatar, you can probably find same issue in other Asian countries (China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.). That issue isn't exclusive to Qatar. I think Qatar is being singled out because it is a Muslim country.

There are 100 threads and opinion on issues of India Pakistan China.. not much on Qatar , the highlighting of the issues is good to see .

Western nations criticize themselves too, you say ureself “Liberal radical”, so its good all their issues are getting highlighted.

 

[JaDed]

Every Indian in India wold give their right arm to live in Qatar. Your nation is a dump compared to it and abuses millions on a daily basis. Please keep your high horse to Bollywood not here pls.

And there are 100 threads on that opened by you, so go throw your opinions there

 

[sweep_shot]

There are 100 threads and opinion on issues of India Pakistan China.. not much on Qatar , the highlighting of the issues is good to see .

Western nations criticize themselves too, you say ureself “Liberal radical”, so its good all their issues are getting highlighted.

Do not be vague. Specify which issues you are referring to. Worker issue is a real issue and I think it should be rectified (just like it should be rectified in India, China, and other Asian countries). Other than worker issue, there is no other issue.

Not everyone in west is a radical liberal. There are many normal people too. Guys like Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson etc. are normal, for examples.

 

[JaDed]

Do not be vague. Specify which issues you are referring to. Worker issue is a real issue and I think it should be rectified (just like it should be rectified in India, China, and other Asian countries). Other than worker issue, there is no other issue.

Not everyone in west is a radical liberal. There are many normal people too. Guys like Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson etc. are normal, for examples.

To me personally worker issue is obviously the main.
Qatar per capita is way richer than India China etc so the comparison is slightly off there but way definitely more can be done.

 

[Technics 1210]

Qatar has a higher GDP/Capita than India.

In fact, Qatar is #1 in the world when it comes to GDP/Capita.

 

[Technics 1210]

I laugh at people who bleat on about workers rights in Qatar but don't bat an eyelid using a smartphone made in China.

If Western media claimed dogs are unsafe in Qatar, then these folk would lap it up.

 

[MenInG]

OUTSIDE the dimly-lit entrance to the media centre at the Ahmad Bin Ali Stadium, amid wintry desert gusts, two officers from Pakistan’s armed forces stand guard, vigilant and alert. The media centre is located inside a huge perimeter fence; to get into the stadium or the centre, you need to go through a thorough security check. Here, accreditations are scanned and all bags go through the scanner.

There’s a loud beep on the belt; a deodorant spray in someone’s bag. The Pakistani officer conducting the full-body scan asks for the bag to be opened. He tells the Arab chief officer that it’s just a deodorant, but the latter is having none of this. “It has to be thrown in the bin… you cannot take it inside,” he orders. The Pakistani officer is sorry and the conversation, initially in English, transitions seamlessly into Urdu. “Yahan ke rules [the rules here],” he sighs.

Once inside the stadium enclosure, it’s a short walk to the media centre where two more Pakistani off*i*cers stationed. Accreditations are once again scanned before you’re let in. “Pakistan se hain aap? [Are you from Pakistan?]” he asks. There is a smile on his face when he gets to know. The other officer standing on the opposite door joins in the conversation.


It’s all about the World Cup; how it’s going, and of course most importantly about being here as a Pakistani.

“How they manage the World Cup will tell how Qatar is ultimately perceived,” James Dorsey, an expert on football and politics in the Middle East, told Dawn on Thursday. “For that, they need security support from things ranging from riot control, law enforcement and even nuclear attack. And the forces they’ve aligned with, including Pakistan, are adept at those.”

These officers, from across Pakistan’s army, navy and air force — reportedly 4,500 in number — who have been deployed in Qatar, are particularly adept. They’re spread across every security agency. There is the P Security, adorning the black tracksuit with a stripe of red running across it. Then, there is the Tournament Security Force, which has a blue stripe on the right shoulder with ‘Police’ emblazoned under it and a red stripe on the opposite side.

The ones outside the media centre at the Ahmed Bin Ali Stadium have to stay at their positions, even when the media centre virtually empties once the game begins. They follow the ebbs and flows of the game inside through the roar of the crowd inside the stadium and beyond. Asked whether they ever feel that they’re “so close yet so far” from the action, they say some of their colleagues are even deputed inside the match venues.

But even for those inside, they can’t be glued to the action. They are fixated on fans and preventing anything untoward happening in the stands. “We have to do our job,” one of the Pakistan officers posted inside the stadium tells Dawn. “If we don’t do that, who will ensure the safety of those inside?” But they can at least catch a glimpse of the action, unlike the ones posted at the media centre.

The Pakistani presence is quite visible in Qatar’s security operation for the World Cup, and it may be once again, if Doha fulfills its ambition of hosting the Olympics — they have already expressed interest in entering the race to hold the games in 2032.

Published in Dawn, November 25th, 2022

 

[Technics 1210]

Do not be vague. Specify which issues you are referring to. Worker issue is a real issue and I think it should be rectified (just like it should be rectified in India, China, and other Asian countries). Other than worker issue, there is no other issue.

Not everyone in west is a radical liberal. There are many normal people too. Guys like Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson etc. are normal, for examples.

Even worker's rights in Qatar is a non issue, worker's safety on site is the key issue, not their rights.

Go ask illegal/freshie immigrants in Amreeka how their workers rights play out - oh wait - THEY HAVE NO WORKERS RIGHTS because they work cash in hand and like dogs day and night, deprived of a voice, in fear of getting caught, deported, and jepordising legal residency. Blacks in Amreeka are still going on about EQUAL workers right and pay! In India it is common to delay a person's salary. This is a worker's right issue, it's slavery.

 

[Rajdeep]

You are only upset because Qatar, an Islamic country is hosting the World Cup.

As for violations of human rights, ironic coming from a Modi and Hindutva supporter.

I was expecting this line of reasoning but it is an inaccurate assumption on your part. I can also say the only reason Pakistani's, who has nothing to with middle east, are ignoring gross human right violation and blindly supporting Qatar just bcoz it a muslim country.

 

[rickroll]

Even worker's rights in Qatar is a non issue, worker's safety on site is the key issue, not their rights.

Go ask illegal/freshie immigrants in Amreeka how their workers rights play out - oh wait - THEY HAVE NO WORKERS RIGHTS because they work cash in hand and like dogs day and night, deprived of a voice, in fear of getting caught, deported, and jepordising legal residency. Blacks in Amreeka are still going on about EQUAL workers right and pay! In India it is common to delay a person's salary. This is a worker's right issue, it's slavery.

Couple of points here

#1 While the Qatar issue seems to be overblown, in all fairness the bolded part seems to be comparing illegal immigrants in the US with the legal system in Qatar. Not an apples-apples comparison. Issues like deportation threat are there in all countries for illegals be it US/England or Qatar/Saudi

#2 Blacks protest in the US for equal treatment as humans period, not just for equal workers right. Not sure if this reinforces your point or weakens it but pointing out the more accurate condition is all. The bad worker conditions do exist for many in the US across race/ethnic lines, not just blacks. It is more of a class issue on that front. This being said, US is pretty racist once you go into the hinterlands away from the big cities.

 

[szrana007]

I was expecting this line of reasoning but it is an inaccurate assumption on your part. I can also say the only reason Pakistani's, who has nothing to with middle east, are ignoring gross human right violation and blindly supporting Qatar just bcoz it a muslim country.

What human right violations? Do you know the conditions of workers and labor in your country? Qatar is far superior to India in every metric of development.

I know Hindutva supporters like you are triggered because Qatar is a Muslim country and invited Dr. Zakir Naik. You may not accept it, but it is the truth.