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On merit, Kamran Akmal deserves to be in Pakistan's national T20 side

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He has a phenomenal record both as a keeper and as a batsman in International T20s and now he is performing great in the domestic T20 event too while other wk batsmen are perishing.

He was out of form but in the late CPL games he has regained his lost form and he has played some outstanding knocks.

Players should be selected on their current form and Kamran Akmal has shown he is the best T20 wk batsman in the country by far.



Kamran would have been playing T20s for any other country. Such a fine fine T20 player.
 
Three incredible catches today has proved he has been working hard on his keeping as well.
 
another ICC tournament coming up and now some people want this useless thing to be in the team for the mega event :facepalm:
by that logic Azhar Mehmood and Yasir Arafat should have been playing for the side , if not Azhar Mehmood then atleast Arafat
 
I genrally would not mind this. The issue is that if the guy scored a few 50s or some good knocks, the selectors will push him back into the Test and ODI side. Once this guy knows his job is sorted, he becomes very complacent.
 
He has a phenomenal record both as a keeper and as a batsman in International T20s and now he is performing great in the domestic T20 event too while other wk batsmen are perishing.

He was out of form but in the late CPL games he has regained his lost form and he has played some outstanding knocks.

Players should be selected on their current form and Kamran Akmal has shown he is the best T20 wk batsman in the country by far.



Kamran would have been playing T20s for any other country. Such a fine fine T20 player.

Whom will he replace?
 
Same issue with Kamran.

On talent and timing as an opener he would always be good at it.

But his mental focus and meek personality, combined with his bogging down under pressure.
All these ensure continuous brain farts at the top level.

Still remember his 'just give me 3 chances as an opener. Before the t20 world cup 2014.

He blew all of them. Scored a 50 in the warm up match, but failed when really mattered against Windies India and Bangladesh.

Stress anxiety panic are the words associated with Kamran where he could've been much much better than he actually is.

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He has a phenomenal record both as a keeper and as a batsman in International T20s and now he is performing great in the domestic T20 event too while other wk batsmen are perishing.

He was out of form but in the late CPL games he has regained his lost form and he has played some outstanding knocks.

Players should be selected on their current form and Kamran Akmal has shown he is the best T20 wk batsman in the country by far.



Kamran would have been playing T20s for any other country. Such a fine fine T20 player.

Too many Keepers in squad then. Sarfraz, Rizwan and now Kamran Akmal. Time to move on.
 
But he is not the same when its comes to international cricket! His performances in domestic cricket may be deceiving!
 
People seem to forget that some players are only meant for domestic cricket and can't turn it around in international cricket.
 
On merit he should be in jail now, for depriving Pakistan cricket of a better WK batsmen by himself having clinged onto the team for so long without performing and then shamelessly introducing his brother into the team after he left.

On merit Sarfraz/Rizwan or any other deserving player should have been in next. Not Akmal "the hack" brothers.
Bade aaye merit waale
 
People seem to forget that some players are only meant for domestic cricket and can't turn it around in international cricket.

I don't need to remind you his great knock against Aus in such a crunch game or his useful contribution in the 2009 final.
 
He is not an uncapped player . His previous performances should be kept in mind . What is his international T20 record ?

With all this experience of decades of keeping he doesn't even have sense to wear glasses as Keeper when the sun is in your eyes .

He almost got our one of the best test batsman injured with his brilliance in keeping letting the ball go and hit him flush . It almost hit him in similar position where Hughes got hit .

There is no space in our Odi or T20 squad for kamran for a 3rd keeper . Neither he warrants selection as a 3rd keeper .

Have a look at his belly . Do international wicketkeepers possess a belly ? It's also his greatness ?

He had immense talent but apart from 2 centuries against West Indies worst team and a few good knocks in Odi against England what are his achievements ? And not to forget the world t20's , champions trophy and Worldcups with both bat and gloves . He couldn't even win one crucial game for us in international competitions .

Who could forget the sitters he dropped of shoaib akhtar's bowling of Taylor who than smashed us left and right . And he is the one who destroyed one of our history's best test victory in Sydney with his gloves , brain and hearts greatness where he forgot to take pride in the star he was wearing on his heart .

How can one forget these bitter facts of his career before vouching for his comeback in the national team based on good performance in domestic T20 ?

Mohali test and Karachi test are his greatest performances one of the greatest performances of our wicket keepers . For which rightly he has been praised many times . Apart from them the box is empty .

Why does he sing tunes of Inzi bhaee everytime in his interviews ? Because Inzi bhai one of strongest captain after imran give him a long ride despite his horrible keeping saying " Come On beta tuu he best hai tuu ne he perform kerna hai "

Some day after his cricketing days expire the ex opener and captain will open up his mouth in any interview . K chotha sikander Kon tha who lived a charmed life .
 
He is not an uncapped player . His previous performances should be kept in mind . What is his international T20 record ?

With all this experience of decades of keeping he doesn't even have sense to wear glasses as Keeper when the sun is in your eyes .

He almost got our one of the best test batsman injured with his brilliance in keeping letting the ball go and hit him flush . It almost hit him in similar position where Hughes got hit .

There is no space in our Odi or T20 squad for kamran for a 3rd keeper . Neither he warrants selection as a 3rd keeper .

Have a look at his belly . Do international wicketkeepers possess a belly ? It's also his greatness ?

He had immense talent but apart from 2 centuries against West Indies worst team and a few good knocks in Odi against England what are his achievements ? And not to forget the world t20's , champions trophy and Worldcups with both bat and gloves . He couldn't even win one crucial game for us in international competitions .

Who could forget the sitters he dropped of shoaib akhtar's bowling of Taylor who than smashed us left and right . And he is the one who destroyed one of our history's best test victory in Sydney with his gloves , brain and hearts greatness where he forgot to take pride in the star he was wearing on his heart .

How can one forget these bitter facts of his career before vouching for his comeback in the national team based on good performance in domestic T20 ?

Mohali test and Karachi test are his greatest performances one of the greatest performances of our wicket keepers . For which rightly he has been praised many times . Apart from them the box is empty .

Why does he sing tunes of Inzi bhaee everytime in his interviews ? Because Inzi bhai one of strongest captain after imran give him a long ride despite his horrible keeping saying " Come On beta tuu he best hai tuu ne he perform kerna hai "

Some day after his cricketing days expire the ex opener and captain will open up his mouth in any interview . K chotha sikander Kon tha who lived a charmed life .

that was the first thing that came to my mind too.
 
No. Kamran is a certified over-the hill player and has no business playing for Pakistan ever again. Sarfaraz Ahmed and Mohammad Rizwan are both better keeper-batsmen than he is and Akmal doesn't merit a place in the team as an opener.

His career is done. If you want to this "fine, fine player" in a Pakistani jersey, open up YouTube.
 
MRSN's obsession with the Akmals is well documented.

He frequently uses the Akmals as a yardstick to compare them to others in the same category/pool of players.

'Its MRSN and Akmals against the world.'

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I don't need to remind you his great knock against Aus in such a crunch game or his useful contribution in the 2009 final.

Yes and he has a couple of good performances and those too came years ago. So lets just move on now.
 
oh God, on "merit" alone this guys deserves to be kept away from any type of international cricket. He could have, should have, and would have done a lot but it's too late. We can only keep 1 Akmal in the plans for the future of Pakistan cricket.
 
Well I would rather have him open in T20s than Shehzad. He can play some crisp shots through the off-side, take on the bowlers and provide a quick start or he will simply get out early.

That is better than batting for 7-8 overs and ending up with a poor strike rate which Shehzad normally does.
 
Well I would rather have him open in T20s than Shehzad. He can play some crisp shots through the off-side, take on the bowlers and provide a quick start or he will simply get out early.

That is better than batting for 7-8 overs and ending up with a poor strike rate which Shehzad normally does.

Well, we're taking Kamran's performances in this Tournament as a yardstick... so his SR here is 150 and Shehzad's 170+. Maybe he has turned a corner now, with his marriage coming up? :afridi
 
OP did this before the World Cup 2015 too. I foresee many similar comments in the build up to the T20 WC next year. Don't see it happening since it looks like the selectors have had enough of him. That doesn't stop his agents, etc. on Twitter from singing his praises and discussing comeback possibilities though! :kakmal
 
Well, we're taking Kamran's performances in this Tournament as a yardstick... so his SR here is 150 and Shehzad's 170+. Maybe he has turned a corner now, with his marriage coming up? :afridi

I'm judging them on their international performances and that too on memory. Kamran has been quite a successful T20I batsman and has played some crucial knocks in WT20s in big games and outside of it against good teams.

Shehzad was better than his usual-self in the Sri Lankan series, so maybe he's turning a corner.
 
Rizwan and Sarfraz are batting at no.5 hence low scores then Kami .wrong statement that other wks are perishing and he is performing . Rifatuallah is way way ahead of him and the most deserving
 
He has a phenomenal record both as a keeper and as a batsman in International T20s and now he is performing great in the domestic T20 event too while other wk batsmen are perishing.

He was out of form but in the late CPL games he has regained his lost form and he has played some outstanding knocks.

Players should be selected on their current form and Kamran Akmal has shown he is the best T20 wk batsman in the country by far.



Kamran would have been playing T20s for any other country. Such a fine fine T20 player.


No, thank you.

For once, I won't give two hoots about "merit" getting murdered.

Let him play BPL, CPL, Big Bash and whatever else that he can get his hands on.

Also as evident from today, he is not something that we necessarily need in the team.

Good domestic player now and that is what he should remain.
 
Give me a break. Sarfraz as first-choice and Rizwan as his deputy is the way to go. Even if him one of them gets injured, I wouldn't stoop low enough to recall Kamran. People tend to forget that he's toxic in the dressing-room.
 
No he doesn't, akmal seniors career is finished and good riddance
 
He almost got our one of the best test batsman injured with his brilliance in keeping letting the ball go and hit him flush . It almost hit him in similar position where Hughes got hit ..

I didn't get to see the games. What happened and who was the batsman that got hit?
 
:))) No Kamran please, Pakistan cricket has suffered enough! No More!
How can you ignore the Lion Hearted Pride of Punjab Kamran Akmal from the national side??

'He is the second best wicket keeper batsman in the world after adam gilchrist' - Shoaib Malik (2007)

If it was upto me my top 3 would be Kamran Adnan and then Umar Akmal one down.
Babar Azam would be no.4 for me. How can we ignore him? He is their cousin after all.

This top 4 is more talented than a top order of Sachin Lara Ponting and Inzi combined.

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I'm judging them on their international performances and that too on memory. Kamran has been quite a successful T20I batsman and has played some crucial knocks in WT20s in big games and outside of it against good teams.

Shehzad was better than his usual-self in the Sri Lankan series, so maybe he's turning a corner.

I have been his arduous critic . But he is getting back to old Ahmed Shehzad of 2009 - 2011 . You see it will be further translated in his performances ahead . The flair is coming back . I feel he will get lesser slack ahead and he will be less debated ahead .
 
I didn't get to see the games. What happened and who was the batsman that got hit?

Asad played ball towards fine leg against a pacer and came back for second run . There was a throw from boundary towards keeper without a tip straight on . At the last moment kamran had his hands up and did not take it into his gloves since he could not see the ball in sun as he wasn't wearing shades and at last moment he let the ball go and it hit Asad Shafique flush on the side of neck .
 
Asad played ball towards fine leg against a pacer and came back for second run . There was a throw from boundary towards keeper without a tip straight on . At the last moment kamran had his hands up and did not take it into his gloves since he could not see the ball in sun as he wasn't wearing shades and at last moment he let the ball go and it hit Asad Shafique flush on the side of neck .

Thanks. Hopefully Asad did not get any serious injury. Too many weird cricket related injuries happening these days.
 
He has a phenomenal record both as a keeper and as a batsman in International T20s and now he is performing great in the domestic T20 event too while other wk batsmen are perishing.

He was out of form but in the late CPL games he has regained his lost form and he has played some outstanding knocks.

Players should be selected on their current form and Kamran Akmal has shown he is the best T20 wk batsman in the country by far.



Kamran would have been playing T20s for any other country. Such a fine fine T20 player.



On merit I should be allowed to slap you silly for starting such an idiotic thread but you don't see me boasting about it...can you name one good innings he has played in last 2-3-4-5 years for Pakistan? And no, a 30 or 40 is not considered a good innins?
 
"If his batting was as good as Don Bradman's, he couldn't score enough runs to make up for what he costs them with his keeping." Ian Chappel on Kamran Akmal.
 
On merit, he wasn't selected in the team for WC T20 2014. Now we talk about his merit? :facepalm:
 
Asad played ball towards fine leg against a pacer and came back for second run . There was a throw from boundary towards keeper without a tip straight on . At the last moment kamran had his hands up and did not take it into his gloves since he could not see the ball in sun as he wasn't wearing shades and at last moment he let the ball go and it hit Asad Shafique flush on the side of neck .

Yeah, and that was pathetic from Kamran Akmal.
 
Kamran Akmal is the Stevie G of Pakistan Cricket Team.

We need him in every t20 world cup edition despite his 'slip ups.'

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Better option than Rizwan.

Only Sarfraz and Kamran seem to be suited to this format among the crop.
 
I would be happy to see him opening in T20s over Shehzad. He can easily provide better starts than him. But for keeper he is a strict no. I would much rather see Rizwan or Sarfraz keep, ideally Sarfraz.
 
How can you ignore the Lion Hearted Pride of Punjab Kamran Akmal from the national side??

'He is the second best wicket keeper batsman in the world after adam gilchrist' - Shoaib Malik (2007)

If it was upto me my top 3 would be Kamran Adnan and then Umar Akmal one down.
Babar Azam would be no.4 for me. How can we ignore him? He is their cousin after all.

This top 4 is more talented than a top order of Sachin Lara Ponting and Inzi combined.

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The Akmal dynasty has certainly changed Pakistan Cricket forever.....what an influence they have made....
they have launched so many careers :)))
 
Rizwan showing the OP and a few others how it is done in T20's and that he is not as bad as they thought him to be...especially the fact that today's 58* off 34 came under tremendous pressure when his team was looking down the barrell!

Something Kamran Akmal in the last 5-6 years has forgotten how to do when the pressure is on.
 
On merit I should be allowed to slap you silly for starting such an idiotic thread but you don't see me boasting about it...can you name one good innings he has played in last 2-3-4-5 years for Pakistan? And no, a 30 or 40 is not considered a good innins?
Please do so :yk
 
OP was wrong to single out Rizwan and it backfired. There are players like Shehzad etc. who are more deserving of getting the chop in this format.
 
He didn't prove himself to be a T20 player and his SR was at 112, which isn't good in T20's.

If he is developing on his T20 game, then excellent.
The perpetual state of denial.

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OP was wrong to single out Rizwan and it backfired. There are players like Shehzad etc. who are more deserving of getting the chop in this format.

Would be harsh to drop Shehzad, he did well in SL and averaged around 40 in the latest T20 cup.

Personally think Kamran would better off as a batsmen because his keeping has hurt Pakistan enough. Not sure if he deserves a spot or not.
 
The perpetual state of denial.

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How can it be denial?

When did a player with a SR of 112 be considered good for T20's?

Just to compare, Shafiq also has the same SR, but he isn't considered a T20 player.
 
How can it be denial?

When did a player with a SR of 112 be considered good for T20's?

Just to compare, Shafiq also has the same SR, but he isn't considered a T20 player.
Well you can enjoy Kamran's strike rate in domestic tournaments, you will be seeing alot more of him on this level for a very very long time.

Rizwan just made sure of that

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Well you can enjoy Kamran's strike rate in domestic tournaments, you will be seeing alot more of him on this level for a very very long time.

Rizwan just made sure of that

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I don't care whether Rizwan makes the squad or Kamran, for as long as they are good in T20's and prove themselves to be one.
 
OP was wrong to single out Rizwan and it backfired. There are players like Shehzad etc. who are more deserving of getting the chop in this format.

I accept my mistakes. I drop my idea of him bringing back as a wicket keeper batsman as it looks a tough fight between Sarfraz and Rizwan even though I think they are bottlers at Int. level but Kamran Akmal can certainly replace Shehzad the tuk tuk machine and Mukhtar Ahmed the hack.
 
I accept my mistakes. I drop my idea of him bringing back as a wicket keeper batsman as it looks a tough fight between Sarfraz and Rizwan even though I think they are bottlers at Int. level but Kamran Akmal can certainly replace Shehzad the tuk tuk machine and Mukhtar Ahmed the hack.


LOL, it is ironic that a Kamran Akmal fan will get to say such a thing, touche my friend, touche!

Kamran Akmal is the original and real bottler, infact he owns that 'Bottler Factory' as well!
 
Rizwan showing the OP and a few others how it is done in T20's and that he is not as bad as they thought him to be...especially the fact that today's 58* off 34 came under tremendous pressure when his team was looking down the barrell!

Something Kamran Akmal in the last 5-6 years has forgotten how to do when the pressure is on.

as I said Kamran Akmal has been putting up great scores opening the batting. even if he can't find a place as a wicket keeper batsman but as a opener he should be in the team. Going by his T20I history and looking at our current openers he has to be in the team. There is no way you can play hacks like Mukhtar and tuk tuk machines like Shehzad in T20s when you have a sound and genuine batsman who doesn't bottle against good attacks as well.

Whenever selector select a player they look at two things..their career as Int. player and their current form. Kamran Akmal both has in the bag in good words. He should be packing his bag for teh Zim series.
 
LOL, it is ironic that a Kamran Akmal fan will get to say such a thing, touche my friend, touche!

Kamran Akmal is the original and real bottler, infact he owns that 'Bottler Factory' as well!
you need to watch 2009 final against Sri Lanka and 2010 Semi Final against Australia. It was Ajmal jis ne Kami ki great knock pe pani pher diya tha.
 
I accept my mistakes. I drop my idea of him bringing back as a wicket keeper batsman as it looks a tough fight between Sarfraz and Rizwan even though I think they are bottlers at Int. level but Kamran Akmal can certainly replace Shehzad the tuk tuk machine and Mukhtar Ahmed the hack.

Thank you for the flexibility in your stance. Highly appreciated.

Shehzad is transforming to old days of 2009-2011 wrt flair and strike rate. Improving now.

Nauman Anwar and Ahsan Ali are the best choices in odi's as opener if mukhtar or Ahmed fail for a longer time. Mukhtar's defence and strike rotation is very weak for Odi cricket. So I want Nauman or Ahsan to be the 3rd opener in squad.

Wrt test cricket 3rd opener should be Ahsan Ali/Imran butt/Naeemuddin. Naeemuddin(if gets fit).
Imran butt needs to be seen for one more season.

Ahsan Ali is very similar to Babar azam . Both are the big deal. Both have only 1 FC hundred and that one hundred is double hundred. First ton double ton :-)

Ahsan and Babar will be great players I.A
 
"If his batting was as good as Don Bradman's, he couldn't score enough runs to make up for what he costs them with his keeping." Ian Chappel on Kamran Akmal.

when he can make his place as a batsman and you have better keepers then why should he keep?

Kamran Akmal is a better T20 batsman than Hafeez whose bowling action has been banned but yet he is in the side as a proper batsman. This is really injustice to Kamran Akmal. Kamran is a much much better batsman than Hafeez.
 
Thank you for the flexibility in your stance. Highly appreciated.

Shehzad is transforming to old days of 2009-2011 wrt flair and strike rate. Improving now.

Nauman Anwar and Ahsan Ali are the best choices in odi's as opener if mukhtar or Ahmed fail for a longer time. Mukhtar's defence and strike rotation is very weak for Odi cricket. So I want Nauman or Ahsan to be the 3rd opener in squad.

Wrt test cricket 3rd opener should be Ahsan Ali/Imran butt/Naeemuddin. Naeemuddin(if gets fit).
Imran butt needs to be seen for one more season.

Ahsan Ali is very similar to Babar azam . Both are the big deal. Both have only 1 FC hundred and that one hundred is double hundred. First ton double ton :-)

Ahsan and Babar will be great players I.A

Nauman has flopped big time since the last tournament. The best T20 opener right now after Kami is Rifatullah who is 39. I don't see a competition for Kamran Akmal as an opener for Pak team. Mukhhtar doesn't look an International player. He will not be able to cross circle against quality fast bowlers. He can be good against medium pacers though.
 
when he can make his place as a batsman and you have better keepers then why should he keep?

Kamran Akmal is a better T20 batsman than Hafeez whose bowling action has been banned but yet he is in the side as a proper batsman. This is really injustice to Kamran Akmal. Kamran is a much much better batsman than Hafeez.

I doubt Kamran Akmal can field 20 overs. Look at his tummy and in T20 we can not keep slips for all overs. Its tricky situation and with we have two keeping options cemented their place in both formats Kamran will play domestic cricket this winter.
 
you need to watch 2009 final against Sri Lanka and 2010 Semi Final against Australia. It was Ajmal jis ne Kami ki great knock pe pani pher diya tha.



So we need to go back 5-6 years to watch a decent performance by Mr. Butter Fingers, no thanks...his time has gone, he cost us so many games that a fan of his accusing Ajmal of the same is again irony personified!

I will take him seriously if he works on his fitness and loses that belly of his which he been carrying since 2008-09 or so...most experts including ex-keepers like Rashid have said his keeping and eventually the whole game went down the drain he after he gained so much weight on such a little frame!
 
I doubt Kamran Akmal can field 20 overs. Look at his tummy and in T20 we can not keep slips for all overs. Its tricky situation and with we have two keeping options cemented their place in both formats Kamran will play domestic cricket rest of his career.



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Akmal 'hack' brothers fan boys :facepalm:

We all know how such domestic bullies fail in Int'l Cricket!
 
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Nauman has flopped big time since the last tournament. The best T20 opener right now after Kami is Rifatullah who is 39. I don't see a competition for Kamran Akmal as an opener for Pak team. Mukhhtar doesn't look an International player. He will not be able to cross circle against quality fast bowlers. He can be good against medium pacers though.

I was talking about Pakistan's Odi and test team ahead wrt openers.

Wrt T20's my top 5 openers in Pakistan will be Ahmed Shehzad, mukhtar ahmed(on decline), Nauman Anwar , fakhar zaman, rifatullah.

I even won't mind riffat getting a go for Pakistan at 39. If we see last 2 tournaments than he is the best.

After top 5 contenders by 6,7,8 would be khurram manzoor, sharjeel and kamran akmal.

I do not agree with you on kamran being THE BEST. But I respect your opinion and you are entitled to be fan of any player and rate him the best.
 
So we need to go back 5-6 years to watch a decent performance by Mr. Butter Fingers, no thanks...his time has gone, he cost us so many games that a fan of his accusing Ajmal of the same is again irony personified!

I will take him seriously if he works on his fitness and loses that belly of his which he been carrying since 2008-09 or so...most experts including ex-keepers like Rashid have said his keeping and eventually the whole game went down the drain he after he gained so much weight on such a little frame!
As I said Kamran don't need to be played as a wicket keeper batssman as we have option to play either Sarfraz or Rizwan. Kamran has a slot as a speciliast opener who he is fighting with players who have zero performance or game like Shehzad and Mukhtar.

besides the class of a player is judged by his performance not by his belly. As long as his bat keeps talking we should be fine. Players do gain weight with age especially SC players even some legendary ones look at Inzi,Sehwag and Sachin Also Yuvi and Zaheer. Selectors didn't drop them because of their weight.
 
^^^If Akmal is in that category of players you listed above than why his averages are all mediocre?

Test, ODI, T20's all show a totally different story than what you just painted?
 
I was talking about Pakistan's Odi and test team ahead wrt openers.

Wrt T20's my top 5 openers in Pakistan will be Ahmed Shehzad, mukhtar ahmed(on decline), Nauman Anwar , fakhar zaman, rifatullah.

I even won't mind riffat getting a go for Pakistan at 39. If we see last 2 tournaments than he is the best.

After top 5 contenders by 6,7,8 would be khurram manzoor, sharjeel and kamran akmal.

I do not agree with you on kamran being THE BEST. But I respect your opinion and you are entitled to be fan of any player and rate him the best.

I think Shehzad no matter how much he has improved he will again go back to his usual tuk tuknes in the next tour as he has shown time and time again. As I said Rifatullah and Mukhtar are good legside hacks but one is 39 and the other just can't play a bowler with 140+kph pace. Nauman has regressed after a good tournament and he flopped big times in this. You can't select a player based on a previous tournament.
 
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