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On merit, Kamran Akmal deserves to be in Pakistan's national T20 side

Vulcan said:
I doubt Kamran Akmal can field 20 overs. Look at his tummy and in T20 we can not keep slips for all overs. Its tricky situation and with we have two keeping options cemented their place in both formats Kamran will play domestic cricket this winter.
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definitely think he has the fitness to last for 20 overs bro. He was keeping and he tooks some great catches diving also running back. Don't think fielding for 20 overs will be a problem for him.
 
Monsee said:
^^^If Akmal is in that category of players you listed above than why his averages are all mediocre?

Test, ODI, T20's all show a totally different story than what you just painted?
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We are talking about T20s here bro and in T20s he is as good player as those in tests or ODIs.
 
MRSN said:
I think Shehzad no matter how much he has improved he will again go back to his usual tuk tuknes in the next tour as he has shown time and time again. As I said Rifatullah and Mukhtar are good legside hacks but one is 39 and the other just can't play a bowler with 140+kph pace. Nauman has regressed after a good tournament and he flopped big times in this. You can't select a player based on a previous tournament.
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How many international games Nauman has played ? Very few.

You cannot drop him after only 2,3 int games. He won't be dropped. If mukhtar fails in zim than he will be axed not nauman. Rifatullah does have an offside game . His only weakness is quick bouncer and slower bowl bouncer on which he needs to work at.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
How many international games Nauman has played ? Very few.

You cannot drop him after only 2,3 int games. He won't be dropped. If mukhtar fails in zim than he will be axed not nauman. Rifatullah does have an offside game . His only weakness is quick bouncer and slower bowl bouncer on which he needs to work at.
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You select players based on their form. Nauman doesn't have the form to be trusted right now he will have to wait for his chance. Rifat is a good choice but I don't know selecting a 39 years old is going to make headlines all over the world. May be Rifat and Kamran can open the innings.
 
We have rizwan or sirfraz or even junior akmal who can don the gloves and bat in T20s so despite kamrans up surge in form we dont need him back in the side.
 
MRSN said:
You select players based on their form. Nauman doesn't have the form to be trusted right now he will have to wait for his chance. Rifat is a good choice but I don't know selecting a 39 years old is going to make headlines all over the world. May be Rifat and Kamran can open the innings.
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Kami should rest now before the FC season begins.

2 days ago in his 2nd last match Nauman stroked a blistering 45 not out of 23 balls.

I think you missed many matches.

Sialkot chased 97 runs target in 7 overs without losing a wicket.
 
T20 is for the future. Every other team goes for youngsters and ignores experience in this format. This is also the best format to try youngsters for captaincy. Pakistan seems to go the other way. but maybe this is also because T20 is considered timepass in other countries but is the most serious format in Pakistan
 
Sarfaraz and Rizwan buried this thread and all members of the Akmal Foundation with their performances in the final. I am happy to announce that Kamran will never be seen in a Pakistan jersey ever again, barring a complete meltdown of the selectors.
 
Indiafan said:
T20 is for the future. Every other team goes for youngsters and ignores experience in this format. This is also the best format to try youngsters for captaincy. Pakistan seems to go the other way. but maybe this is also because T20 is considered timepass in other countries but is the most serious format in Pakistan
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If other countries didn't give it any importance why would be there so many leagues? Especially a league for 2 months? It's wrong to think every country picks youngsters for the team they are only get picked because they are better T20 players than those seniors. You select the best players for T20 and there is no doubt that Kamran is the besg T20 opener in Pakistan.
 
he is playing well , but which player we can drop for kamran. I think every player in current team deserve more than kamran. So he should not be in team
 
First of all, Kamran Akmal should never keep again at least for Pakistan. I'm extremely sorry if I'm being rude or harsh but personally I've not seen any keeper drop so many catches like Kamran Akmal did during his stint with Pak. I forgot count how many catches he dropped in the bowling of Shoaib Akhtar in the WC 2011 match against New Zealand, Shoaib's last appearance. Shoaib was absolutely gutted, he was giving it all bowling very fast until at the end NZ took him on after numerous survival.

Domestically he's a good dasher at the top of the order. No complaints.
 
Truly he does. only in Pakistan he will be overlooked for players like Sarfraz and Riffat.
 
I wouldn't mind for T20 as an opener.

He's better than the Afghan reject and other mediocre players we have.
 
MRSN said:
Truly he does. only in Pakistan he will be overlooked for players like Sarfraz and Riffat.
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His last 14 international innings he has been out for 2 ducks, four times on 1 and only crossed double digits 3 times. It's safe to say that he's not good enough for international cricket. He may perform well in domestic, I'm sure there are other who have done well too. Kami has had his chance let someone else have a go.
 
Kamran Akmal has done enough for Pakistan cricket he doesn't need to contribute anymore......
Everytime think of him, I think of that run out he missed in Australia.......
How did he not make contact with the wickets..........nah he shouldn't be allowed back as
he is not good enough.
 
Just read Misbah has suggested to improve this t20 team, Kamran Akmal MUST be opener. And Imad Wasim at 6.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] - agree with 'KING MISBAH'? :))
 
Bullet Drive said:
Just read Misbah has suggested to improve this t20 team, Kamran Akmal MUST be opener. And Imad Wasim at 6.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] - agree with 'KING MISBAH'? :))
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Agree with Imad being at 5-6, I put him there in my WC lineup. But Kami bhai opening, what is he expecting, Karachi 2006, T20 edition?
 
Wicket keeping seems like Warasat system, which should keep revolve between Akmals.
Come on guys, move on.
 
Kamran Akmal is being missed. This Pakistan batting line up looks nothing like a T20 batting.
 
Yes absolutely we need this team for T20

1) Sarfaraz Ahmed
2) Kamran Akmal
3) Muhammad Hafeez (T20 India)
4) Shoaib Malik
5) Umar Akmal
6) Imad Wasim
7) Shahid Afridi
8) Aamir Yamin
9) Zafar Gohar
10) Wahab Riaz
11) Muhammad Aamer

12) Nauman Anwer
13) Anwar Ali
14) Sharjeel Khan
15) Muhammad Irfan
 
We should have this team in the T20 world cup:

1. Sarfaraz Ahmed
2. Kamran Akmal
3. Hafeez
4. Malik
5. Umar Akmal
6. Imad Wasim
7. Afridi
8. Hammad Azam
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Amir
11. Irfan

12. Umar Gul
13. Zafar Gohar
14. Aamer Yamin
15. Rizwan
 
WC-Passion said:
Not with his recent international record he doesn't.
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It's past. Got dropped rightly at the time but then went back to domestic and has scored tons of runs. Miles better than Sharjeel. What more do you want him to do to get back into the team?
 
shariqnoor said:
It's past. Got dropped rightly at the time but then went back to domestic and has scored tons of runs. Miles better than Sharjeel. What more do you want him to do to get back into the team?
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For me, the only way he can get back in the team is perform really well in the PSL (A higher level than our TTF ridden domestic cups) and then show consistently good performances with the gloves. If it wasn't for his poor TTF record recently in internationals, I wouldn't have such high targets for him. (Sorry if I sound like some know it all selector :)) )
 
shariqnoor said:
It's past. Got dropped rightly at the time but then went back to domestic and has scored tons of runs. Miles better than Sharjeel. What more do you want him to do to get back into the team?
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Yeah for these incompetent, selfish , team hogging, lobby making players, going back and beating up poor domestic bowlers is well enough for them to replace an honest, competent, performing player in the team.

Is there any limit to foolishness and begarty or is this infinite ? I think infinite
 
MRSN said:
He still does..
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Not with his recent intnl record plus with him being on the wrong side of 30 it should be curtains for him as far as playing for Pakistan is concerned
 
WC-Passion said:
For me, the only way he can get back in the team is perform really well in the PSL (A higher level than our TTF ridden domestic cups) and then show consistently good performances with the gloves. If it wasn't for his poor TTF record recently in internationals, I wouldn't have such high targets for him. (Sorry if I sound like some know it all selector :)) )
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oh really. Azhar Ali failed horribly as a player as well as a captain yet he is our captain and in the team. Kamran Akmal didn't have a great PSL but he has been one of the top performers in the other domestic tournaments. 2 80+ scores in his first two games in the current National T20 cup already.
 
The problem is Pakistan don't have many options as openers. Some are hacks and others are test levels that even Nasser Hussein can see. Kamran Akmal is definitely the opener Pakistan is looking for. He is good against pace,solid against spin and a clean striker. Can give Pakistan a solid start.

What Pakistan should do is sack Azhar.
Make Sarfraz Captain.
Bring Back Umar Akmal as a middle order player.
Bring back Kamran as an opener.
have a proper spinner.

then see team prosper.
 
Zaz said:
Not with his recent intnl record plus with him being on the wrong side of 30 it should be curtains for him as far as playing for Pakistan is concerned
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he is not a bowler. Batsmen can play till 38-39 easily. Look at Dilshan. I don't think it's curtains for him yet. He has future for another few years. unless Pakistan finds another dynamic player which they haven't in the last 3 years.
 
WC-Passion said:
For me, the only way he can get back in the team is perform really well in the PSL (A higher level than our TTF ridden domestic cups) and then show consistently good performances with the gloves. If it wasn't for his poor TTF record recently in internationals, I wouldn't have such high targets for him. (Sorry if I sound like some know it all selector :)) )
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I would have Kamran purely as a batsman in place of Sharjeel. I'm damn sure Sharjeel is not going to be in the team by the end of 2016.
 
Just look at national T20 cup. Kamran looks the boss amongst hacks and wannabes.
 
MRSN said:
The problem is Pakistan don't have many options as openers. Some are hacks and others are test levels that even Nasser Hussein can see. Kamran Akmal is definitely the opener Pakistan is looking for. He is good against pace,solid against spin and a clean striker. Can give Pakistan a solid start.

What Pakistan should do is sack Azhar.
Make Sarfraz Captain.
Bring Back Umar Akmal as a middle order player.
Bring back Kamran as an opener.
have a proper spinner.

then see team prosper.
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Loool! Is this a joke? Kamis best performances in white ball cricket were over a decade ago, even if we forget his dodgy antics and all them drop catches the guy been useless for Pakistan with the bat in the last 4-5 years

And here you are at the age of 35 making him the 2nd coming of saeed anwar...
 
*syed59* said:
Yeah for these incompetent, selfish , team hogging, lobby making players, going back and beating up poor domestic bowlers is well enough for them to replace an honest, competent, performing player in the team.

Is there any limit to foolishness and begarty or is this infinite ? I think infinite
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I would like to understand which competent, performing player you're referring to? If Kamran is back, I would want him in place of Sharjeel. Is Sharjeel a competent performing player? And it's not Kamran's fault that our domestic has poor bowlers. And one other thing, you wouldn't be able to name 2 players who have been beating up our poor domestic bowlers. Kamran at least is doing that.
 
Kamran avges 16 in his last 17 odi games for Pakistan

and 15 in his last 16 t20 games for Pakistan...

on top of that with his career avge of 26 in odis and 21 in t20s yes hes definitely the opener Pakistan is looking for
 
shariqnoor said:
It's past. Got dropped rightly at the time but then went back to domestic and has scored tons of runs. Miles better than Sharjeel. What more do you want him to do to get back into the team?
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Yeah, we've been through this process enough times... it's all happened before. The results are the same every time.
 
its kamrans fault he hasn't performed when given numerous intnl chances, the guys played for Pakistan for over a decade, his best was over a decade ago and since hes steadily got worse and worse despite numerous chances

Who cares what he does domestically when hes a proven failure since the last 10 years When are we going to say enough is enough?
 
Abdullah719 said:
Yeah, we've been through this process enough times... it's all happened before. The results are the same every time.
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Yes. You're right. But as of now do you see any other opening batsman who's killing it in domestic? We have so many poor batsmen in the domestic setup that it's Kamran who's gaining the spotlight.

Plus I don't get this logic of he averages 16 in his last 17 ODIs. Yeah, so? He got dropped because of that and rightly so. So now what does one do to get back into the team? go back to the domestic, score heaps of runs and try to come back. Isn't that what Kamran is trying? If we use this inane logic of "averages 16 in his last outing for their country" for batsmen, then no batsman will ever get another chance. England might drop Hales because of his poor performance, but does this mean that he can never come back into the team???
 
If we have a solid opener who can provide a quick start as Kamran can, then by all means keep Kamran out forever. I wouldn't mind that. but such is the poor state of our cricket that Kamran seems to be the best out there at the moment and his domestic record is proof. As sad as that might be but that is the reality.
 
shariqnoor said:
Yes. You're right. But as of now do you see any other opening batsman who's killing it in domestic? We have so many poor batsmen in the domestic setup that it's Kamran who's gaining the spotlight.

Plus I don't get this logic of he averages 16 in his last 17 ODIs. Yeah, so? He got dropped because of that and rightly so. So now what does one do to get back into the team? go back to the domestic, score heaps of runs and try to come back. Isn't that what Kamran is trying? If we use this inane logic of "averages 16 in his last outing for their country" for batsmen, then no batsman will ever get another chance. England might drop Hales because of his poor performance, but does this mean that he can never come back into the team???
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But you keep forgetting he was never that good in the first place, he avges 26 in odis over 150 odd games, its not like suddenly after a break and working in domestics kamis going to become a 40+ opener for us

Hes been around long enough not to improve, hes been in domestics before and recalled in the t20 world cup where he was absolutely useless, its time to move on because he just doesn't have it in him
 
they have got him only just before the WT20s before.. But now they can bring him back, if he is in form then he should be in just as a opening batsman, that would also send a message to his brother, score runs in domestic we will take you...
 
shariqnoor said:
Yes. You're right. But as of now do you see any other opening batsman who's killing it in domestic? We have so many poor batsmen in the domestic setup that it's Kamran who's gaining the spotlight.

Plus I don't get this logic of he averages 16 in his last 17 ODIs. Yeah, so? He got dropped because of that and rightly so. So now what does one do to get back into the team? go back to the domestic, score heaps of runs and try to come back. Isn't that what Kamran is trying? If we use this inane logic of "averages 16 in his last outing for their country" for batsmen, then no batsman will ever get another chance. England might drop Hales because of his poor performance, but does this mean that he can never come back into the team???
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and by the way you cant compare hales situation with kamrans. hales is still young enough to learn and repay with a decent enough career for England, its not like kamis situation whos been around forever, given literally years of chances but only got worse and worse

Im all for giving chances to someone but not to someone whos 35, who was never that good in the first place and its not over handful of chances but literally over years and years
 
so it's clear merit is not there in the selection otherwise Kamran is way better ODI and T20 player than Rizwan who has been in the squad for over a year now.
 
@PSL17
Best wicket-keeper award - Kamran Akmal
Best batsman - Kamran Akmal
Man of the tournament - Kamran Akmal#PSL2017
 
Kamran has earned the recall (which he will 100% get) on merit. Nobody can question that on strength of performance and form he is the most qualified limited overs opener in Pakistan now that Sharjeel is banned.

Also the people who are saying he is a tested failure and can't improve, that's a very misleading and dishonest logic. With many players you can say it's true, but the thing is people have seen what Kamran could do at his peak. He isn't some joker who never looked like he could play. He's a guy who looked like being the the best WK batsmen Pakistan ever had and then had some awful performances.

However it's just wrong to suggest that he has no ability and just bullied bad bowlers in domestic so we can ignore it. He has performed in the past against very good bowlers in tough situations.
 
looking at Azhar Ali's tuk tuk and inability to find gaps, I don't think Kami would have been a bad choice. On these flat pitches where ball comes to bat nicely he would have been an asset.

Don't forget he was the highest run getter for Pakistan in 2010 Natwest series against England.
 
MRSN said:
looking at Azhar Ali's tuk tuk and inability to find gaps, I don't think Kami would have been a bad choice. On these flat pitches where ball comes to bat nicely he would have been an asset.

Don't forget he was the highest run getter for Pakistan in 2010 Natwest series against England.
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he can't field for 50 overs though but I'd still rather Akmal than Shehzad but both not great internationally and I actually like Akmal but can't deny he's not good enough for international
 
MRSN said:
looking at Azhar Ali's tuk tuk and inability to find gaps, I don't think Kami would have been a bad choice. On these flat pitches where ball comes to bat nicely he would have been an asset.

Don't forget he was the highest run getter for Pakistan in 2010 Natwest series against England.
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This is 2017.

I understand its your life mission to push a case for Akmals, but Kamis he's been pathetic for a long while. No more Akmals pls
 
Stop MRSN, stop...unless you are Kamran, please in the name of sanity and anything that means having some respect and all!

You aint coming back, accept it and move on!
 
MRSN said:
looking at Azhar Ali's tuk tuk and inability to find gaps, I don't think Kami would have been a bad choice. On these flat pitches where ball comes to bat nicely he would have been an asset.

Don't forget he was the highest run getter for Pakistan in 2010 Natwest series against England.
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bhai this is 2017 :facepalm: lets move on
 
kamran can't field and can't catch..even if u play him as a keeper.. he will still drop catches.. I believe saving runs in the field and taking ur catches and all the opportunities that is provided wins the Matches. U can score 450 runs but if ur fielders don't back ur bowlers.. u can't win the match.

Certain players need to go away forever..they r tried tested... and not improving

Kamran akmal
Umar Akmal
Ahmad shehzad
Wahab riaz
Hafeez (too old)
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] Modal Town Gang of 5 have started their campaign again......
 
MRSN said:
looking at Azhar Ali's tuk tuk and inability to find gaps, I don't think Kami would have been a bad choice. On these flat pitches where ball comes to bat nicely he would have been an asset.

Don't forget he was the highest run getter for Pakistan in 2010 Natwest series against England.
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So you want to select Kamran based on performances in 2010 :facepalm:

You used to cry that Misbah has 'destroyed' the team yet you are lobbying for Kamran

You used to cry that Pakistan ODI team is not modern yet you are lobbying for Kamran

:facepalm: x 1000
 
in_cutter said:
So you want to select Kamran based on performances in 2010 :facepalm:

You used to cry that Misbah has 'destroyed' the team yet you are lobbying for Kamran

You used to cry that Pakistan ODI team is not modern yet you are lobbying for Kamran

:facepalm: x 1000
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Kamran Akmal is more dynamic ODI player than Shehzad and Azhar will ever be even today.
 
Kamran Akmal is finished...please, let these old guys go away. Hafeez, Akmals & Co. need to follow Misbah....and retire. Let the next generation takeover.

If we see more batters like Fakhar Zaman, then I'm excited.
 
Kamran is better than Azhar and shehzad but I don't think they should recall him.
 
KyoOne said:
This is 2017.

I understand its your life mission to push a case for Akmals, but Kamis he's been pathetic for a long while. No more Akmals pls
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2017 yes and yet he was one of the most successful Pak batsmen in all domestic events including PSL. He is not yet finished as a batsman.
 
Monsee said:
Stop MRSN, stop...unless you are Kamran, please in the name of sanity and anything that means having some respect and all!

You aint coming back, accept it and move on!
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Look at players he is conpeting with. I mean you seriously believe Kamran is not better than tuk tuk strokless wonders Azhar and Shehzad?
 
MRSN said:
Look at players he is conpeting with. I mean you seriously believe Kamran is not better than tuk tuk strokless wonders Azhar and Shehzad?
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A 36 year old over weight has been, who cannot field, run, do any physical work and is the worst catcher ever...he better be scoring at least a century every time!

What do mean he doesn't even average 30 (I think) and lately has failed in all his recent come backs, going back (only God knows) how far?

Come again, what you mean better than any Gamma Medha taay Butt?
 
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