Operation Temperer - Troops to be deployed on British streets

[s28]

Extraordinary

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Troops are to be deployed on UK streets under Op Tempora contingency plans - PM describes this as sensible and proportional response</p>— Mark Urban (@MarkUrban01) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/status/867119337655734273">23 May 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-streets-in-wake-of-major-terror-attacks.html

By Emily Gosden7:33PM BST 26 Jul 2015

More than 5,000 soldiers could be deployed on the streets of Britain in the wake of major terrorist attacks, under a secret Government plan, it has emerged.

The troops would be sent to guard key targets in major cities if Isil or other terror groups launched multiple attacks on UK soil, under the plan, codenamed Operation Temperer.

Details of the operation were disclosed by the Mail on Sunday after accidentally being uploaded to the National Police Chiefs Council website last week.
Officers had been briefed on the plan by Deputy Chief Constable Simon Chesterman, the ‘national lead’ for armed policing, during an NPCC meeting in Leicester in April.
Under the heading ‘counter terrorism post Paris large scale military support to the police’, minutes of the meeting disclosed that up to 5,100 troops could be deployed “based on force assessments of how many military officers could augment armed police officers engaged in protective security duties”.
Soldiers would serve alongside armed police officers to protect against further attacks while plotters were hunted down.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

These are scary times!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not sure about this move.

If it;s to reassure people, it will only scare them as seeing soldiers or anyone with guns in the streets is very rare here.

If it's to stop any imminent attack, they have no clue as to where it will take place.

 

[James]

It's a strange feeling to experience this. I was in Paris a few months after the attacks and honestly speaking there were uniforms everywhere, armed to the teeth. It was genuinely unnerving, and yet it felt like quite a safe place to be at the same time.

 

[s28]

It is a mad move as all it will do is escalate tension

If security services have intelligence act on it

If they have lost control of the situation it looks like panic

And it comes on a day when right wing commentators have called for a 'Final Solution' and 'internment camps'!

 

[Robert]

I thought this would happen, after last night.

At LHR and LGW the SCO19 Officers wander around with their ballistic vests, headsets and carbines and I feel safer for them being there.

I've known a lot of HM armed forces blokes and trust them all, so this is not a big issue for me.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I thought this would happen, after last night.

At LHR and LGW the SCO19 Officers wander around with their ballistic vests, headsets and carbines and I feel safer for them being there.

I've known a lot of HM armed forces blokes and trust them all, so this is not a big issue for me.

Airports have always had firearm officers on patrol. The streets of Britain rarely see this and will only highten tensions. Operationally it won't achieve anything either, as intelligence is needed to stop attacks not soldiers walking the streets.

 

[ElRaja]

dont like armed cops on the street. the fact is if someone wants to kill people with no care of there own welfare, they'll do it, and itd be virtually impossible to stop, guns or not.

 

[KingKhanWC]

dont like armed cops on the street. the fact is if someone wants to kill people with no care of there own welfare, they'll do it, and itd be virtually impossible to stop, guns or not.

Do you believe it's a political move by May to show 'strong leadership'?

P.s Good to see you posting again.

 

[ElRaja]

Do you believe it's a political move by May to show 'strong leadership'?

P.s Good to see you posting again.

not necessarily strong leadership, think its just one of those things where they've thought we need to do something here. some action is better than inaction.

i mean i dont think its a terrible move as a temporary measure, if it makes people feel safer or whatever, but it cant be a default response, because i dont think its very effective imo.

thanks for the welcome back, have been off work for a few weeks studying for exams, hence thought id check out what people are up to here.

 

[troodon]

Are the troops going to stop and profile people?

 

[Adil_94]

[MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION] doubt they would do that. that is the job of civilian forces. Army cant start detaining people or questioning them. This is purely for security purposes and a show of strength more than anything to make people feel safer but in a country like the U.K it can have an adverse effect maybe as people arent used to this.

 

[JaDed]

Wow ,so weird,for how long though?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Wow ,so weird,for how long though?

more employment can't be bad.

 

[shane]

This seems to be playing into the hands of terrorists, creating fear and panic just because one lone fool decided to blow himself up.

 

[Slog]

sad day
one of the great things about western countries and which i loved is the freedoms they offer and the sense that you are not in some police-state

 

[Robert]

Airports have always had firearm officers on patrol. The streets of Britain rarely see this and will only highten tensions. Operationally it won't achieve anything either, as intelligence is needed to stop attacks not soldiers walking the streets.

I remember when British airports did not have firearm officers on patrol. It began in the seventies as a response to various terror threats.

Soldiers on the sreets might have stopped the Charlie Hebdo attack, the Drummer Rigby attack or the Westminster attack. Harder to stop a suicide bomber - for that we need MI5 who have done really well since 7/7.

 

[IMMY69]

Inevitable.

Overall a good move.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

sad day
one of the great things about western countries and which i loved is the freedoms they offer and the sense that you are not in some police-state

I was thinking that this is like a distant echo of Pakistan under martial law. Obviously it isn't that, but it does show how easy it is to go down that road, and as in Pakistan, the public probably feel reassured by the army presence in uncertain times.

 

[IMMY69]

It's a strange feeling to experience this. I was in Paris a few months after the attacks and honestly speaking there were uniforms everywhere, armed to the teeth. It was genuinely unnerving, and yet it felt like quite a safe place to be at the same time.

Likewise I was in Niece a months or so after the truck disaster and there was heavy military presence around... if anything I felt a lot safer for it.

 

[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When it comes to defending our country, words are cheap. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GE2017?src=hash">#GE2017</a> <a href="https://t.co/bEx7Oc3jHP">pic.twitter.com/bEx7Oc3jHP</a></p>— EL4C (@EL4JC) <a href="https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/867294396357672961">24 May 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Markhor]

Wow ,so weird,for how long though?

The reason is the terror threat has been raised from severe to critical - meaning the threat of an attack remains "highly likely" according to intelligence.

Basically what the intelligence guys have been saying is the sophistication of the attack at the Manchester Arena means there's a chance more than one person is behind it and there could be other individuals on the run connected to the attacker.

 

[TahirFan]

At least 5,000 soldiers will have something to do.

South African soldiers and policemen are getting fat sitting and doing nothing

South African soldiers and policemen are considered as the most obese people in their profession throughout the world

 

[ExpressPacer]

Good decision. With so many Muslims in the UK being fed lies by the likes of Zakir Naik along with other extremist "scholar" and with Islamophobes constantly trying to make Muslims look bad, another travesty is imminent.

 

[James]

The reason is the terror threat has been raised from severe to critical - meaning the threat of an attack remains "highly likely" according to intelligence.

Basically what the intelligence guys have been saying is the sophistication of the attack at the Manchester Arena means there's a chance more than one person is behind it and there could be other individuals on the run connected to the attacker.

Imminent now, rather than Highly Likely.

I am up in Leeds later today and expecting a large police presence.

 

[SandyB]

If another one is imminent , then it wouldn't be another "lone wolf" incident is it ? There must be some kind of agency coordinating this .. ?

 

[s28]

The media are trying to manipulate us. It is up to us whether we are feeble minded enough to succumb to their tactics.

 

[santos11]

It is the necessity of the hour. Won't be surprised if numbers increase.