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A wave of anger has swept through the Pakistani community in Texas after a family alleged they were subjected to racially charged abuse at an Afghan-owned restaurant. According to the family, the incident went beyond a simple verbal altercation and involved deliberate insults tied to their ethnic identity, leaving them humiliated and shaken.

The allegation has sparked intense debate across community circles and social media, with many demanding accountability and a formal investigation into the matter. Community leaders have emphasized that such incidents, if proven, threaten the social fabric of immigrant communities that often share common struggles and histories.

While the restaurant has yet to issue a detailed public response, the episode has reopened uncomfortable conversations about internal prejudices within diaspora communities and the urgent need for mutual respect in multicultural societies like the United States.

 
Next time I meet an Afghan abroad, I will certainly have a word with him about this serious topic. It’s not right that they give so much hard time to Pakistanis everywhere, abusing them like anything without giving a damn, humiliating them in front of their family. It’s not the right thing to do.
 
We live mainly happily alongside our diaspora brothers whether they are Afghan or even Indian.

If some Pakistani enters an Afghan restaurant with the intention of being abusive then it is only right they are given abuse and chased out.

We have our differences and can communicate with respect and tolerance.
 
We live mainly happily alongside our diaspora brothers whether they are Afghan or even Indian.

If some Pakistani enters an Afghan restaurant with the intention of being abusive then it is only right they are given abuse and chased out.

We have our differences and can communicate with respect and tolerance.

These issues seem to happen more in USA than in UK. Even Canada doesn't have these issues as much as USA.

America is the land of dramas. LOL.

To be fair, America has a much larger population (320-million+). More people means more conflicts I guess.
 
These issues seem to happen more in USA than in UK. Even Canada doesn't have these issues as much as USA.

America is the land of dramas. LOL.

To be fair, America has a much larger population (320-million+). More people means more conflicts I guess.
Many of these things take place to get views on social media. People become obnoxious to get likes.

We grew up in era in UK where everyone who was brown automatically became Bhai or aunty/uncle. Unfortunately younger generations and those who spend too much time on social media are becoming more entrenched in their views. I mean even if we disagree politically why be abusive to others in their restaurant, that too in a third country?
 
Many of these things take place to get views on social media. People become obnoxious to get likes.

We grew up in era in UK where everyone who was brown automatically became Bhai or aunty/uncle. Unfortunately younger generations and those who spend too much time on social media are becoming more entrenched in their views. I mean even if we disagree politically why be abusive to others in their restaurant, that too in a third country?

Fully agree.

Social media can make people more toxic I guess. They are so much fake news on social media (most seem to originate from India). :inti
 
Next time I meet an Afghan abroad, I will certainly have a word with him about this serious topic. It’s not right that they give so much hard time to Pakistanis everywhere, abusing them like anything without giving a damn, humiliating them in front of their family. It’s not the right thing to do.
I dont think now is the time for indians to go abroad. you guys are being targeted everywhere and goodluck coming to the US on an H1B.
 
Next time I meet an Afghan abroad, I will certainly have a word with him about this serious topic. It’s not right that they give so much hard time to Pakistanis everywhere, abusing them like anything without giving a damn, humiliating them in front of their family. It’s not the right thing to do.

You first need to have a word with your afghan friends ye to ghajab besti ho gai

 
I dont think now is the time for indians to go abroad. you guys are being targeted everywhere and goodluck coming to the US on an H1B.
Given everything that's going on, must be a difficult time to be brown in the US and not live in one of the immigrant hotspots like Silicon Valley, Tech Triangle, Seattle, Austin etc. One of my close friends lives in South Carolina for a decade plus now and is desperately looking to move.

I usually travel twice a year to the States and am seriously considering canceling this March. When I traveled in September last year, for the first time in a decade, I actually kept my passport on me just in case. Nothing happened and no masked ICE guy accosted me but I don't ever remember feeling nervous about this stuff.

Crazy times!
 
A wave of anger has swept through the Pakistani community in Texas after a family alleged they were subjected to racially charged abuse at an Afghan-owned restaurant. According to the family, the incident went beyond a simple verbal altercation and involved deliberate insults tied to their ethnic identity, leaving them humiliated and shaken.

The allegation has sparked intense debate across community circles and social media, with many demanding accountability and a formal investigation into the matter. Community leaders have emphasized that such incidents, if proven, threaten the social fabric of immigrant communities that often share common struggles and histories.

While the restaurant has yet to issue a detailed public response, the episode has reopened uncomfortable conversations about internal prejudices within diaspora communities and the urgent need for mutual respect in multicultural societies like the United States.


Seems like this bird is a trouble maker. She prob chose this Afghan restaurant in order to have a dig at Afghans making comments about the Pak army. Of course the owner will respond to such deliberately rude customers.

Many Afghans have arrived in the UK in the last 5 years or so, I have never had an issue with him.
 
These issues seem to happen more in USA than in UK. Even Canada doesn't have these issues as much as USA.

America is the land of dramas. LOL.

To be fair, America has a much larger population (320-million+). More people means more conflicts I guess.

afghans are hated by all communities here in UK they are known for causing trouble the British absolutly hate them
 
Which part of the UK are you from? Im not asking for postcode just north, midlands or south?

The Anti-PTI group are from Texas who organized coup against Pakistani physicians (for standing with Imran Khan) and based around Dallas!

afghans are hated by all communities here in UK they are known for causing trouble the British absolutly hate them
Not true in America or Canada, Afghans coexist alongside other Muslims with no issues.
These issues seem to happen more in USA than in UK. Even Canada doesn't have these issues as much as USA.

America is the land of dramas. LOL.

To be fair, America has a much larger population (320-million+). More people means more conflicts I guess.

Anything happening in Texas in terms of Pakistani community, you have to put it in context because it has a huge Pakistani Diaspora.

  1. There is huge support for PTI and Imran Khan
  2. There is loud support for crooks in the Government, those visiting Pakistan at the behest of the Army are from Texas
Someone needs to look into the background of this woman, Texas in general has no issues between Pakistani and Afghani diaspora.
 
Which part of the UK are you from? Im not asking for postcode just north, midlands or south?

That information is none of your concern, and I won’t be sharing my details with someone who openly sympathises with extremists and terrorists.

lets not forget you were defending Bondi beach terrorists until you found out they were Indians.
 
The Anti-PTI group are from Texas who organized coup against Pakistani physicians (for standing with Imran Khan) and based around Dallas!


Not true in America or Canada, Afghans coexist alongside other Muslims with no issues.


Anything happening in Texas in terms of Pakistani community, you have to put it in context because it has a huge Pakistani Diaspora.

  1. There is huge support for PTI and Imran Khan
  2. There is loud support for crooks in the Government, those visiting Pakistan at the behest of the Army are from Texas
Someone needs to look into the background of this woman, Texas in general has no issues between Pakistani and Afghani diaspora.

what you say don't mean much you are obviously going to defend them because of your anti-Pakistan sentiments
 
That information is none of your concern, and I won’t be sharing my details with someone who openly sympathises with extremists and terrorists.

lets not forget you were defending Bondi beach terrorists until you found out they were Indians.

I apologise, I forgot you're scared of visiting Pakistan because of IK even though he's in jail.

I asked because once again you are making up false statements. Afghans ARE NOT hated by all communities. Nothing new for you.

Back on topic. This bird looks like a establishment boot licker. USA is not Pakistan, Afghan owner was correct to kick her out.
 
Seems like this bird is a trouble maker. She prob chose this Afghan restaurant in order to have a dig at Afghans making comments about the Pak army. Of course the owner will respond to such deliberately rude customers.

Many Afghans have arrived in the UK in the last 5 years or so, I have never had an issue with him.


Agree. I have met a few Afghans, they have never been anything but respectful, although they do seem to have some historical beef with Punjabis, even if they don't say it openly. I think this dates back to the wars with Sikhs back in the day.

Can't really blame the Afghan owners of the restaurant here, the Pakistani couple were making antagonistic and bombastic remarks which might have caused offence. Seems like they were trying to score points on social media maybe to create a stir.
 
I apologise, I forgot you're scared of visiting Pakistan because of IK even though he's in jail.

I asked because once again you are making up false statements. Afghans ARE NOT hated by all communities. Nothing new for you.

Back on topic. This bird looks like a establishment boot licker. USA is not Pakistan, Afghan owner was correct to kick her out.


he was in jail to when 9th may riots happened, government and army are doing a good job eliminating PTI terrorists so once every single PTI terrorist is either killed or made to run out of the country I'm here after that i will shift to pakistan.

As for you, it’s no surprise you side with Afghanistan and India your entire stance lines up with anyone who carries anti-Pakistan sentiment.
 
Agree. I have met a few Afghans, they have never been anything but respectful, although they do seem to have some historical beef with Punjabis, even if they don't say it openly. I think this dates back to the wars with Sikhs back in the day.

Can't really blame the Afghan owners of the restaurant here, the Pakistani couple were making antagonistic and bombastic remarks which might have caused offence. Seems like they were trying to score points on social media maybe to create a stir.

I wouldnt be surprised if these folk have family links in the army and are in USA living life with corrupt funds. These types are very arrogant.
 
he was in jail to when 9th may riots happened, government and army are doing a good job eliminating PTI terrorists so once every single PTI terrorist is either killed or made to run out of the country I'm here after that i will shift to pakistan.

As for you, it’s no surprise you side with Afghanistan and India your entire stance lines up with anyone who carries anti-Pakistan sentiment.

This shows your level of intel... PTI is an idea/ideology/a movement. Imran Khan alive or not will not change this now. PTI is here to stay.... I hope you have a definite stay visa or you will be scared entering Pakistan.

Unlike you I dont shine establishment shoes, I do not have a shine box in my glove box. This bird went into an Afghan restaurant to abuse Afghans. What did you think would happen, the Afghans would give them a blow up doll of Munir in return?
:zardari
 
Given everything that's going on, must be a difficult time to be brown in the US and not live in one of the immigrant hotspots like Silicon Valley, Tech Triangle, Seattle, Austin etc. One of my close friends lives in South Carolina for a decade plus now and is desperately looking to move.

I usually travel twice a year to the States and am seriously considering canceling this March. When I traveled in September last year, for the first time in a decade, I actually kept my passport on me just in case. Nothing happened and no masked ICE guy accosted me but I don't ever remember feeling nervous about this stuff.

Crazy times!
I think the indian IT workers who tend to sometimes give off the FOB look that the whites have latched on to here, are more under the gun these days compared to say those browns who seem more "americanized". It is hard to explain the difference - you have to experience it. But point taken: ICE shot a white american mother of three yesterday in Minnesota so it seems to me its open season on anyone these days in the US if you are anti Trumper.
 
Next time I meet an Afghan abroad, I will certainly have a word with him about this serious topic. It’s not right that they give so much hard time to Pakistanis everywhere, abusing them like anything without giving a damn, humiliating them in front of their family. It’s not the right thing to do.

Its better you cross the road if you see one.

The ones in the uk who have mainly arrived on dinghy rapids are mainly aggressive young males and extremely violent and capable of killing.

There's horror stories now happening in the uk now of an innocent dog walker being murdered for breaking up a fight , to white girls being literally grabbed and raped in bushes.
 
I think the indian IT workers who tend to sometimes give off the FOB look that the whites have latched on to here, are more under the gun these days compared to say those browns who seem more "americanized". It is hard to explain the difference - you have to experience it. But point taken: ICE shot a white american mother of three yesterday in Minnesota so it seems to me its open season on anyone these days in the US if you are anti Trumper.
Americanised or not, I think folks better keep a low profile in the States over the next 3 years if they look 'different'. They've already started screening social media for visa applicants and it'll be impossible to get a visa if you've ever posted anything against the US or Israel across any social media. Next step will be to start screening residents - green card holders etc. Maybe after that...if he can bend the Supreme Court enough - citizens whose names sound funny and faces look brown?

I've posted some jokes about Trump so I suppose I'm not guaranteed a Visa renewal when it comes up in 6 years or so if the trend continues.
 
Don't let your political and religious baggage override your humanity when planning to move abroad.

Westerners do not care or understand the regional issues in subcontinent. For them, all brown people are Indian or Arab.

Don't know the full story, but kicking out someone for their political or religious beliefs is not accepted in US.
 
Afghans are the nicest people when I meet them anywhere in the world. The moment they get to know I am an Indian, and especially a purebred Brahmin Sanatani, the respect and warmth just grows visibly. They helped me many times and were always willing to do a lot more than they needed to. I received most respect and love from Russians and Afghans always.

This is why I am bit surprised why things are so bad between them and Pakistanis. How have Pakistanis lost the respect in their eyes so much that the the jolly good people like them turn into vicious MMA fighters the moment they see Pakistanis.
 
Afghans are the nicest people when I meet them anywhere in the world. The moment they get to know I am an Indian, and especially a purebred Brahmin Sanatani, the respect and warmth just grows visibly. They helped me many times and were always willing to do a lot more than they needed to. I received most respect and love from Russians and Afghans always.

This is why I am bit surprised why things are so bad between them and Pakistanis. How have Pakistanis lost the respect in their eyes so much that the the jolly good people like them turn into vicious MMA fighters the moment they see Pakistanis.
they were probably just buttering you up. brahmin or non brahmin, the afghans would bend you over for being a non muslim.
 
Agree. I have met a few Afghans, they have never been anything but respectful, although they do seem to have some historical beef with Punjabis, even if they don't say it openly. I think this dates back to the wars with Sikhs back in the day.

Can't really blame the Afghan owners of the restaurant here, the Pakistani couple were making antagonistic and bombastic remarks which might have caused offence. Seems like they were trying to score points on social media maybe to create a stir.

There is a lot of truth to what you are saying.

Afghans have a smug superior attitude and they are specifically hostile to Punjabees and there are specific words in both Pushtu and Dari and specific cultural derogatory references.

However, they are largely peaceful and on good terms with Pakistani community in both Canada and US.


Seems like this bird is a trouble maker. She prob chose this Afghan restaurant in order to have a dig at Afghans making comments about the Pak army. Of course the owner will respond to such deliberately rude customers.

Many Afghans have arrived in the UK in the last 5 years or so, I have never had an issue with him.
I have discussed the issue of Afghans with my British friends in Bradford, London, Birmingham, Leicester and there are no major issues or concerns. Most "Muslims" deal with Afghans as "Muslims" and through the lens of DG ISPR in Mosques and community.

People like @emranabbas have problems on a forum with people whom they have never met so I don't doubt that he has problems with Afghans in UK but overall there are no issues.

Yes, I am ware of the violence in Cricket matches etc.

But it depends on the lens which someone applies to the situation, Yes, the Taliban are clearly and directly responsible for TTP and Terrorism in Pakistan but it doesn't mean that every Afghan is looking to blow up people of Pakistan everywhere and has a problem which needs to be resolved.

This happened in Dallas and that is a big blinking neon sign as to how this should be interpreted.

There are ignoramuses on all sides.
 
Americanised or not, I think folks better keep a low profile in the States over the next 3 years if they look 'different'. They've already started screening social media for visa applicants and it'll be impossible to get a visa if you've ever posted anything against the US or Israel across any social media. Next step will be to start screening residents - green card holders etc. Maybe after that...if he can bend the Supreme Court enough - citizens whose names sound funny and faces look brown?

I've posted some jokes about Trump so I suppose I'm not guaranteed a Visa renewal when it comes up in 6 years or so if the trend continues.
thats correct, for immigrants or visa seeking brown folk, its a different story. if you have a clean record as an american citizen or permanent resident, a brown person does not have much to fear.
 
they were probably just buttering you up. brahmin or non brahmin, the afghans would bend you over for being a non muslim.

This could be a personal thing also as I have a charming effect on people I meet or interact with on online forums. Ask Suleiman or Gazza Bhai
 
he was in jail to when 9th may riots happened, government and army are doing a good job eliminating PTI terrorists so once every single PTI terrorist is either killed or made to run out of the country I'm here after that i will shift to pakistan.

As for you, it’s no surprise you side with Afghanistan and India your entire stance lines up with anyone who carries anti-Pakistan sentiment.

Hate to say it bro, but you were getting all the likes from rampant hindutva supporters @Rajdeep and @Devadwal and they are as anti-Pakistan as it gets.
 
thats correct, for immigrants or visa seeking brown folk, its a different story. if you have a clean record as an american citizen or permanent resident, a brown person does not have much to fear.
What is a clean record any more though? Trump's following the roadmap of other dictators worldwide. Maybe even his love/hate buddy Xi.

Is an anti-Trump post or a contribution to a Palestinian charity organistion still a clean record unless you freckle in the sun and can trace your ancestry back to the Mayflower?
 
There is a lot of truth to what you are saying.

Afghans have a smug superior attitude and they are specifically hostile to Punjabees and there are specific words in both Pushtu and Dari and specific cultural derogatory references.

However, they are largely peaceful and on good terms with Pakistani community in both Canada and US.




I have discussed the issue of Afghans with my British friends in Bradford, London, Birmingham, Leicester and there are no major issues or concerns. Most "Muslims" deal with Afghans as "Muslims" and through the lens of DG ISPR in Mosques and community.

People like @emranabbas have problems on a forum with people whom they have never met so I don't doubt that he has problems with Afghans in UK but overall there are no issues.

Yes, I am ware of the violence in Cricket matches etc.

But it depends on the lens which someone applies to the situation, Yes, the Taliban are clearly and directly responsible for TTP and Terrorism in Pakistan but it doesn't mean that every Afghan is looking to blow up people of Pakistan everywhere and has a problem which needs to be resolved.

This happened in Dallas and that is a big blinking neon sign as to how this should be interpreted.

There are ignoramuses on all sides.

I dont think the Afghan owners had a problem, they are likely to see hundreds of Pakistanis walk through their doors in Texas every year. Most Pakistanis in Texas are well off and are valuable customers, it makes no business sense for the owner to kick them out for no reason. Its obvious this woman is a trouble maker, thinking she is something special. Normal people go home to bed or to another restaurant if the service was poor but she makes a video to put on social media. Maybe some distant relative of @emranabbas
 
it definitely sounds like they were trying to charm you as well for their own nefarious designs.

I had that doubt on Sully, that’s why maintaining a respectable distance since a while.
Although Gazza bhai is pure hearted and an HQP/HQM
 
What is a clean record any more though? Trump's following the roadmap of other dictators worldwide. Maybe even his love/hate buddy Xi.

Is an anti-Trump post or a contribution to a Palestinian charity organistion still a clean record unless you freckle in the sun and can trace your ancestry back to the Mayflower?
Dont let the exaggerated news cloud your mind. he is definitely trying to cut down on a lot of liberties protected by the constitution but all they are at the moment are illegal attempts. yes they can make you miserable but sometimes you have to fight back. the system and the law will protect you in such situations, which is why i said "citizen" or "permanent resident". for foreign citizens its definitely tough.
 
I dont think the Afghan owners had a problem, they are likely to see hundreds of Pakistanis walk through their doors in Texas every year. Most Pakistanis in Texas are well off and are valuable customers, it makes no business sense for the owner to kick them out for no reason. Its obvious this woman is a trouble maker, thinking she is something special. Normal people go home to bed or to another restaurant if the service was poor but she makes a video to put on social media. Maybe some distant relative of @emranabbas
You are thousands of miles away but have arrived at the right conclusion due to just using common sense.

DFW (Dallas-For Worth Area) has thousands of Pakistanees and probably close to half a million Muslims! No business (Afghan or otherwise) will survive because the community network is tight and any issues will be all over the Facebook groups, WhatsApp etc so no business can afford it.

Most Masjids have Halal Food Trucks (Pakistani and sometimes Afghan) after Jumuah and any discrimination will have a devastating impact because the "Muslim community" will react very negatively.
Dont let the exaggerated news cloud your mind. he is definitely trying to cut down on a lot of liberties protected by the constitution but all they are at the moment are illegal attempts. yes they can make you miserable but sometimes you have to fight back. the system and the law will protect you in such situations, which is why i said "citizen" or "permanent resident". for foreign citizens its definitely tough.
Correct.
 
Indian- Pakistan animosity is way more on social media than on real life. I don’t want to go all Yash Chopra and say it’s all jhappi-pappi with Pakistanis but it’s not all Sunny Deol hyper-level either.

Desis in general bond with other people who speak their language or are from their community/region. It’s not like all Indians hang out together regardless of where they are from.

To me interacting with a Pakistani is just like interacting with some Punjabi, Sindhi or some bhayyaji from UP/Bihar. Some get along; some don’t and with some just professional Hi/hello.No different from interaction with anyone else form the subcontinent. Nothing to do with religion/ nationality etc (speaking for my experiences), more to do with the individual.

However Pakistanis find this difficult to accept but I have seen first hand the vitriol or hatred Afghanis have for Pakistan. I couldn’t beleive it at the start but I have seen it personally. The literally convulse with hatred at the mention of Pakistan. I thought it was personal at first but then later I saw the cricket matches, followed people on social media etc.

Pakistanis ( not all) themselves get so confused about this , first thing they bust out is anti-Hindu, anti-India jibes at Afghanis as a first line of defense mechanism/ cope.

They find it hard to process how can someone from ummah hate them so much. However only Pakistanis and maybe some Bangladeshis these days and a very few Indian Muslims probably stick to this ummah stuff. Most people have either national/ linguistic or ethnic pride.

I don’t like this crapola of brining South Asian rivalries to USA. 🤦‍♂️
 
Indian- Pakistan animosity is way more on social media than on real life. I don’t want to go all Yash Chopra and say it’s all jhappi-pappi with Pakistanis but it’s not all Sunny Deol hyper-level either.

Desis in general bond with other people who speak their language or are from their community/region. It’s not like all Indians hang out together regardless of where they are from.

To me interacting with a Pakistani is just like interacting with some Punjabi, Sindhi or some bhayyaji from UP/Bihar. Some get along; some don’t and with some just professional Hi/hello.No different from interaction with anyone else form the subcontinent. Nothing to do with religion/ nationality etc (speaking for my experiences), more to do with the individual.

However Pakistanis find this difficult to accept but I have seen first hand the vitriol or hatred Afghanis have for Pakistan. I couldn’t beleive it at the start but I have seen it personally. The literally convulse with hatred at the mention of Pakistan. I thought it was personal at first but then later I saw the cricket matches, followed people on social media etc.

Pakistanis ( not all) themselves get so confused about this , first thing they bust out is anti-Hindu, anti-India jibes at Afghanis as a first line of defense mechanism/ cope.

They find it hard to process how can someone from ummah hate them so much. However only Pakistanis and maybe some Bangladeshis these days and a very few Indian Muslims probably stick to this ummah stuff. Most people have either national/ linguistic or ethnic pride.

I don’t like this crapola of brining South Asian rivalries to USA. 🤦‍♂️
i have seen a lot of indians bringing anti pakistan sentiment to america as well, mostly the FOB visa holders. experienced it first hand not too long ago.
 
Indian- Pakistan animosity is way more on social media than on real life. I don’t want to go all Yash Chopra and say it’s all jhappi-pappi with Pakistanis but it’s not all Sunny Deol hyper-level either.

Desis in general bond with other people who speak their language or are from their community/region. It’s not like all Indians hang out together regardless of where they are from.

To me interacting with a Pakistani is just like interacting with some Punjabi, Sindhi or some bhayyaji from UP/Bihar. Some get along; some don’t and with some just professional Hi/hello.No different from interaction with anyone else form the subcontinent. Nothing to do with religion/ nationality etc (speaking for my experiences), more to do with the individual.

However Pakistanis find this difficult to accept but I have seen first hand the vitriol or hatred Afghanis have for Pakistan. I couldn’t beleive it at the start but I have seen it personally. The literally convulse with hatred at the mention of Pakistan. I thought it was personal at first but then later I saw the cricket matches, followed people on social media etc.

Pakistanis ( not all) themselves get so confused about this , first thing they bust out is anti-Hindu, anti-India jibes at Afghanis as a first line of defense mechanism/ cope.

They find it hard to process how can someone from ummah hate them so much. However only Pakistanis and maybe some Bangladeshis these days and a very few Indian Muslims probably stick to this ummah stuff. Most people have either national/ linguistic or ethnic pride.

I don’t like this crapola of brining South Asian rivalries to USA. 🤦‍♂️

I judge people based on their character and behaviour. If a person is honest, talks in a civilised manner it doesnt matter to me what their race , ethnicity or religion is to me.

However if a person is a Muslim with those characteristics, its an automatic bond because we bow down to the Creator.
 
Dont let the exaggerated news cloud your mind. he is definitely trying to cut down on a lot of liberties protected by the constitution but all they are at the moment are illegal attempts. yes they can make you miserable but sometimes you have to fight back. the system and the law will protect you in such situations, which is why i said "citizen" or "permanent resident". for foreign citizens its definitely tough.
You're probably right. It's tough to be realistic about life for outsiders in the US with daily barrage of crazy news.

Feels surreal. I lived in the States for 5 years through Obama's election and his first term. All the talk then was about a permanent Democratic majority and how demographic change was going to make the Republican party irrelevant and turn American politics into the center vs the left.

Now we're wondering if the Dems have a real way back given the kind of kooky far left politicians they're breeding.
 
Pakistanis and Afghanistanis single handedly prove that the Ummah thing is all hot air.
 
afghans are hated by all communities here in UK they are known for causing trouble the British absolutly hate them

In my high school, there were some Afghans.

Some of them were into gangs and they used to fight a lot. I once almost got into a fight with an Afghan but that guy's brother calmed things down (I was a friend with his brother). He told me his brother had mental illness. :inti
 
Anything happening in Texas in terms of Pakistani community, you have to put it in context because it has a huge Pakistani Diaspora.

  1. There is huge support for PTI and Imran Khan
  2. There is loud support for crooks in the Government, those visiting Pakistan at the behest of the Army are from Texas
Someone needs to look into the background of this woman, Texas in general has no issues between Pakistani and Afghani diaspora.

I see.

Hopefully this will die down and not escalate.
 
i have seen a lot of indians bringing anti pakistan sentiment to america as well, mostly the FOB visa holders. experienced it first hand not too long ago.
Was it unprovoked when you were minding your own business ? If then, yes I do empathize with you and condemn it. As I said individual experiences differ. Even though I have my doubts, sure that was not called for 👍
 
You're probably right. It's tough to be realistic about life for outsiders in the US with daily barrage of crazy news.

Feels surreal. I lived in the States for 5 years through Obama's election and his first term. All the talk then was about a permanent Democratic majority and how demographic change was going to make the Republican party irrelevant and turn American politics into the center vs the left.

Now we're wondering if the Dems have a real way back given the kind of kooky far left politicians they're breeding.
One could argue that the current state of affairs is actually a direct result of the Obama election. The far right was startled into panic and lashed out after a black man was put in the oval office. These are latest racist feelings expressing themselves.
 
Has it been confirmed that this woman was a Pakistani? Or is she the irl equivalent of some users here who have multiple accounts on here and pretend to be Pakistanis part time? :asghar
 
Pakistanis and Afghanistanis single handedly prove that the Ummah thing is all hot air.
Like everything else, there can be internal strife. jus because a few afghans or pakistanis or indians or banglas or arabs or iranians had a squirmish, does not mean that an overwhelming majority of the Muslims dont identify as a nation together.
 
Has it been confirmed that this woman was a Pakistani? Or is she the irl equivalent of some users here who have multiple accounts on here and pretend to be Pakistanis part time? :asghar

That's a very good point.

Anybody can make a video like this. How can we tell it is not an Indian? :inti

Indians spread a lot of fake stuff online.
 
Was it unprovoked when you were minding your own business ? If then, yes I do empathize with you and condemn it. As I said individual experiences differ. Even though I have my doubts, sure that was not called for 👍
Totally unprovoked.

Pakistanis and Indians freely socialize in the US, especially those of us like me who have lived here for decades.
Once in a while a FOB indian comes along and spoils the friendly atmosphere because of the anti pakistan agenda brought over, thanks to the heavily anti Pakistan sentiment in india over the last few decades of the Modi government.
 
Pakistanis and Afghanistanis single handedly prove that the Ummah thing is all hot air.

Ummah is a just a community of Muslims bonded together by Islam.

Not sure why people have a higher expecentence of Muslims over others? Hindus fight Hindus, Christians have fought Christians, Muslims are also human beings with free will.

Please educate yourself before writing lame anti Islam posts.
 
Pakistanis and Afghanistanis single handedly prove that the Ummah thing is all hot air.

Maybe, but neither Pakistanis or Afghans will disown the Ummah. All they will do is claim each is the better Muslim and it's the other side which is letting the Ummah down.

So you are correct about the hot air, but neither wants to be on the outside. Make of that what you will.
 
I have met some really Horrible Afghans with rude behavioral issues and many good ones - just as any other community. It has a lot to do with education (which starts from home), not nationality. It pretty much always cuts down to it. The more a society is uneducated, the more vile reaction from an action. What makes things worse is arguing with a person with behavioral issues, which a sane person must avoid. I ahev doubts (not sure though) if the lady in the video is telling the full story.
 
I hear a lot of pakistanis say this about them .. that they think they're superior. What exactly do Afghans feel smug and superior about ?
 
We live mainly happily alongside our diaspora brothers whether they are Afghan or even Indian.

If some Pakistani enters an Afghan restaurant with the intention of being abusive then it is only right they are given abuse and chased out.

We have our differences and can communicate with respect and tolerance.
The tone of the tweet coming from an indian lady really tells you everything you need to know..zero agenda here..right!?

But, why the hell praise the Pakistani army, in any venue, home or abroad..
 
A wave of anger has swept through the Pakistani community in Texas after a family alleged they were subjected to racially charged abuse at an Afghan-owned restaurant. According to the family, the incident went beyond a simple verbal altercation and involved deliberate insults tied to their ethnic identity, leaving them humiliated and shaken.

The allegation has sparked intense debate across community circles and social media, with many demanding accountability and a formal investigation into the matter. Community leaders have emphasized that such incidents, if proven, threaten the social fabric of immigrant communities that often share common struggles and histories.

While the restaurant has yet to issue a detailed public response, the episode has reopened uncomfortable conversations about internal prejudices within diaspora communities and the urgent need for mutual respect in multicultural societies like the United States.

It’s not a racist issue,

She didn’t allege the Afghan workers racially abused them for being Pakistani
 
I hear a lot of pakistanis say this about them .. that they think they're superior. What exactly do Afghans feel smug and superior about ?
  1. Race & Ethnicity​
  2. Early to Islam​
  3. Color of their skin (generally fairer)​
  4. Never colonized by British​
Persians have generally looked down upon everyone else (Arabs, Turks, Indians etc) but the latest incarnation of Afghan hatred is actually Pushtun (Nationalism) but none of these reasons are actually valid, today.

I know that your deep seated hatred will prevent you from understanding any issues but during the British Colonial era, a lot of Indian Scholars tried to use Afghanistan as a backstop to Jihad against British and there are dozens of books on when Indians went to Afghanistan the state of the society (basic services etc)

The real reason for Afghans being angry is because civilization has passed them by and Indians and subsequently (Pakistani) Pushtuns have leapfrogged them. India was colonized, its education system (Persian based) its civil society and cohesion ripped apart turned upside down yet within a few generations Hindus first and then Muslims recovered.

Afghanistan is a tribal society and used to mercenary bouts and it never suffered the kind of damages the British inflicted upon India and yet it was basket case before perpetual wars and it is. Afghanistan also has little literacy (both in terms of Islam and normal sciences) and it shows.

Lar aw bar yaw Afghan is a manifestation of that anger.

Indian Government has spent millions weaponizing this sense of bereavement against Pakistan but sooner or later Afghans will turn against India as it is the way it is.

Vast majority of (ordinary) Afghans are low in literacy and are severally impacted by Lar aw bar yaw Afghan.

The Pushtuns on both sides of Durand line (Afghanistan and Pakistan) may be related but they are miles apart in mental configuration and maturity.​
 
i have seen a lot of indians bringing anti pakistan sentiment to america as well, mostly the FOB visa holders. experienced it first hand not too long ago.

Same experience. The funny part? The moment you stop smiling and actually stand your ground, the volume drops. Suddenly it’s less global patriot and more, wait, this worked better back home.
 
Same experience. The funny part? The moment you stop smiling and actually stand your ground, the volume drops. Suddenly it’s less global patriot and more, wait, this worked better back home.
My experience with Pakistanis is limited to either corporate world or when I am playing cricket on sundays (my team is a mix of Indians and Pakistanis). So never put myself in a position to run into such toxic types.Even if someone feels such way internally, people maintain a decorum.

I do have 1 Pakistani family living in my community. They keep to themselves mostly. However no issues; they smile and wave when they run into you like good neighbors and I like to keep it that way.all good.

It depends on the social circles we live in or hang out with I guess. Maybe our environment is what translates to this rage online.
 
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The tone of the tweet coming from an indian lady really tells you everything you need to know..zero agenda here..right!?

But, why the hell praise the Pakistani army, in any venue, home or abroad..
We gotta believe her. Indians are paragons of truth. Her twitter bio shows she is completely unbiased too.
 
In my high school, there were some Afghans.

Some of them were into gangs and they used to fight a lot. I once almost got into a fight with an Afghan but that guy's brother calmed things down (I was a friend with his brother). He told me his brother had mental illness. :inti

They all have mental illness I've yet have to come across one who hasn't
 
I dont know what cave you live in but I can post a dozen of articles from british news where they show hate for Afghans and for all the wrong reason child rape illegaly entering uk etc.. i would be suprised if you support these pedophiles just because you hate pakistan and these Afghans are on the same page as you

Before posting articles from Britain first you should check the British spelling of paedophile. You have spelled it differently in two separate posts and still didn't manage to hit the correct one.

Maybe write to Prince Andrew for the correct spelling, I'm sure he would know.
 
Before posting articles from Britain first you should check the British spelling of paedophile. You have spelled it differently in two separate posts and still didn't manage to hit the correct one.

Maybe write to Prince Andrew for the correct spelling, I'm sure he would know.

Unlike you its not something I'm into it or search that sort of stuff so I ever type it and admit I don't know the spellings of it.

You carry on supporting your afghan friends.
 
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Show me in the video where she has abused the Afghans? Do you have any evidence? How do you know she abused the Afghans first??

lol. Only a police investigation can produce evidence. This isnt some kangaroo military court run by a temu general.

Its called a view based on the information available. If you disagree, do you think I give a f? lol
 
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I dont know what cave you live in but I can post a dozen of articles from british news where they show hate for Afghans and for all the wrong reason child rape illegaly entering uk etc.. i would be suprised if you support these pedophiles just because you hate pakistan and these Afghans are on the same page as you
They have posted same about other nationalities including ours. We shouldn't stoop to the level of gutter media and cast aspersions on whole communities. Most Afghans just want to leave a life of peace away from Taliban.
 
These issues seem to happen more in USA than in UK. Even Canada doesn't have these issues as much as USA.

America is the land of dramas. LOL.

To be fair, America has a much larger population (320-million+). More people means more conflicts I guess.
here in the UK, the communities are more welcoming - i've never had any problems with the afghanies anywhere in the UK
 
Ironically these type of Afghans who put their nationalism above the Ummah are exactly the type of Afghans that the hindutva posters love. The same ones who have been liking your posts and you have joined hands with because it serves your political agenda against the PTI.

These are serious allegations Emmy. You must come clean wrt your dubious relations with Sanatanis.
 
Ironically these type of Afghans who put their nationalism above the Ummah are exactly the type of Afghans that the hindutva posters love. The same ones who have been liking your posts and you have joined hands with because it serves your political agenda against the PTI.

Indians and Afghans have always been anti-Pakistan and pro-PTI, so I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about.
That’s exactly what you’ve got in common with them the same anti-Pakistan mentality.
 
Indians and Afghans have always been anti-Pakistan and pro-PTI, so I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about.
That’s exactly what you’ve got in common with them the same anti-Pakistan mentality.

But notably the hindutva posters have been anti-IK and you and they have shared high fives on intra-Pakistan fighting. From their point of view it is understandable, but from a British based Pakistani not so clear.
 
Agree. I have met a few Afghans, they have never been anything but respectful, although they do seem to have some historical beef with Punjabis, even if they don't say it openly. I think this dates back to the wars with Sikhs back in the day.

Can't really blame the Afghan owners of the restaurant here, the Pakistani couple were making antagonistic and bombastic remarks which might have caused offence. Seems like they were trying to score points on social media maybe to create a stir.
Same here, I feel after living abroad for some time that Pashtun Afghans and Sikh/Hindu Punjabis are "naturally" closest people to Pakistanis in an mullti cultural environment.
 
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