Over the top reactions by the Pakistan cricket fans

[Hedz]

No need to be so crazy about the loss today
Win and loss is a part of the game
After last weeks win people had started celebrating the WC19 already, saying Pakistan will easily win it
A week later they want a complete overhaul

I've said it plenty of times before and I will probably have to say it for the rest of my life: don't go over the top after a win and don't go extreme after a loss, don't make heroes after one game and don't bring them back to zero after one bad game!

The batting in the second test match was poor no doubt, but dropping players left right and center won't bring the change that fans want.

Rather the players failing need to go back and play a season of FC cricket to get their form back. We have plenty of backup in the shorter formats which gives us the flexibility to leave these players out for a few tours so they can prepare for the next test series.

As for you fans. Have some patience and show some love, 1-1 in England with a young squad, a relatively new captain and no Misbah and Younis was beyond what most had expected before the series started.

 

[ManFan]

Nobody is losing any love for the team by expressing their discontent by the lack of fight shown by the team.

A template has become apparent to defeat PAK in the last two years and it’s to bat first and have them chase. Their experienced batsmen are mentally incapable of scoring while chasing the game.

This tour has been fun to watch because it has yet again proven that the young players are carrying the fragile seniors who should be at the top of their game by now.

It’s unfortunate but the underlying reality. The only way is up from here and here’s to a great future for a young team.

 

[Suleiman]

I think it's importance to keep perspective of the bigger picture yet still acknowledge the issues and work to improve them.

It's very hard to do, either one will be incredibly delusional to the point that there is nothing wrong with my team and how dare you criticize or find something to whinge about be it in victory or loss and never giving your team the credit.

You can't look at people's reactions to wins and losses from a subjective point of view, it's natural and instinctual, and all comes down to that person's personality and upbringing.

It's the same with players. Two examples. Mohammad Hafeez and Asad Shafiq. You can tell Hafeez his problems as a player a million times, that he pokes outside off too much, is a terrible runner. As you may have seen from his press releases he's in denial pretty much all of the time, "No there is nothing wrong with my game, Alhamdulillah I am blessed in all facets" etc etc. Just complete delusion. He acknowledges when he does well but doesn't hold himself accountable when he is lacking, and therefore doesn't work on himself and improve.

Then you have Asad Shafiq. Since the dawn of man every person who has seen him play has said "Wow yaar kiya talent hai", "Wow what technique", "Has every shot in the book", and if you've seen him in domestics or caught a glimpse of him early on you could tell by his shot making that he has every practical gift to succeed on the cricket field... except he doesn't really trust or believe in himself. Even in this tour he had the body language of a debutant as someone said. Seems like someone who is overcritical of themselves and doesn't back himself to do well.

These 2 extremes are also reflected with our fan base. Either folks suffering from delusions of grandeur that Pakistan is the greatest team in the world or people who criticize the team on every point and you question when do they actually trust or believe in the team to do well.

You have to keep things in perspective. Acknowledge that amidst this one loss overall the tour was fruitful. Good selection choices, pace attack looking the best it has in a while, two budding test ARs which we haven't had in a while, yeah there are a few issues and maybe time to look to replace Shafiq and potentially Azhar, but we have a good core of players.

 

[Hedz]

Nobody is losing any love for the team by expressing their discontent by the lack of fight shown by the team.

A template has become apparent to defeat PAK in the last two years and it’s to bat first and have them chase. Their experienced batsmen are mentally incapable of scoring while chasing the game.

This tour has been fun to watch because it has yet again proven that the young players are carrying the fragile seniors who should be at the top of their game by now.

It’s unfortunate but the underlying reality. The only way is up from here and here’s to a great future for a young team.

You would be surprised, many of the fans are unnecessarily hating on the players, old and young for their performances. When in reality no one expected us to beat Ireland let alone England.
The young team has done well on this tour and with some tuning we can get even better

 

[Hedz]

I think it's importance to keep perspective of the bigger picture yet still acknowledge the issues and work to improve them.

It's very hard to do, either one will be incredibly delusional to the point that there is nothing wrong with my team and how dare you criticize or find something to whinge about be it in victory or loss and never giving your team the credit.

You can't look at people's reactions to wins and losses from a subjective point of view, it's natural and instinctual, and all comes down to that person's personality and upbringing.

It's the same with players. Two examples. Mohammad Hafeez and Asad Shafiq. You can tell Hafeez his problems as a player a million times, that he pokes outside off too much, is a terrible runner. As you may have seen from his press releases he's in denial pretty much all of the time, "No there is nothing wrong with my game, Alhamdulillah I am blessed in all facets" etc etc. Just complete delusion. He acknowledges when he does well but doesn't hold himself accountable when he is lacking, and therefore doesn't work on himself and improve.

Then you have Asad Shafiq. Since the dawn of man every person who has seen him play has said "Wow yaar kiya talent hai", "Wow what technique", "Has every shot in the book", and if you've seen him in domestics or caught a glimpse of him early on you could tell by his shot making that he has every practical gift to succeed on the cricket field... except he doesn't really trust or believe in himself. Even in this tour he had the body language of a debutant as someone said. Seems like someone who is overcritical of themselves and doesn't back himself to do well.

These 2 extremes are also reflected with our fan base. Either folks suffering from delusions of grandeur that Pakistan is the greatest team in the world or people who criticize the team on every point and you question when do they actually trust or believe in the team to do well.

You have to keep things in perspective. Acknowledge that amidst this one loss overall the tour was fruitful. Good selection choices, pace attack looking the best it has in a while, two budding test ARs which we haven't had in a while, yeah there are a few issues and maybe time to look to replace Shafiq and potentially Azhar, but we have a good core of players.

Agree with most you have said and you have hit the nail on the head. However, can’t be thinking about replacing Azhar. It was a shocking tour for him, no doubt, but we can’t forget he’s been our best test batsman over the past two years. Has some obvious issues with his batting that need rectifying, but overall he is an important part of our test team

 

[Rayyman]

I think it's importance to keep perspective of the bigger picture yet still acknowledge the issues and work to improve them.

It's very hard to do, either one will be incredibly delusional to the point that there is nothing wrong with my team and how dare you criticize or find something to whinge about be it in victory or loss and never giving your team the credit.

You can't look at people's reactions to wins and losses from a subjective point of view, it's natural and instinctual, and all comes down to that person's personality and upbringing.

It's the same with players. Two examples. Mohammad Hafeez and Asad Shafiq. You can tell Hafeez his problems as a player a million times, that he pokes outside off too much, is a terrible runner. As you may have seen from his press releases he's in denial pretty much all of the time, "No there is nothing wrong with my game, Alhamdulillah I am blessed in all facets" etc etc. Just complete delusion. He acknowledges when he does well but doesn't hold himself accountable when he is lacking, and therefore doesn't work on himself and improve.

Then you have Asad Shafiq. Since the dawn of man every person who has seen him play has said "Wow yaar kiya talent hai", "Wow what technique", "Has every shot in the book", and if you've seen him in domestics or caught a glimpse of him early on you could tell by his shot making that he has every practical gift to succeed on the cricket field... except he doesn't really trust or believe in himself. Even in this tour he had the body language of a debutant as someone said. Seems like someone who is overcritical of themselves and doesn't back himself to do well.

These 2 extremes are also reflected with our fan base. Either folks suffering from delusions of grandeur that Pakistan is the greatest team in the world or people who criticize the team on every point and you question when do they actually trust or believe in the team to do well.

You have to keep things in perspective. Acknowledge that amidst this one loss overall the tour was fruitful. Good selection choices, pace attack looking the best it has in a while, two budding test ARs which we haven't had in a while, yeah there are a few issues and maybe time to look to replace Shafiq and potentially Azhar, but we have a good core of players.

This is another very wise post from you, but people will not read it because it's too long for them.

Should win POTW imo.