Overseas Pakistanis should boycott Pakistan under PDM leadership

[KingKhanWC]

There is no chance I will spend even a rupee in Pakistan if Zardari and Sharifs are in charge.

No visits, no investing and certainly no sending money unless some poor fella I know needs it.

Why send money or visit only for thieves to steal it all?

 

[Savak]

Not a practical solution but this will accelerate brain drain. Expect the foreign debts to go to $300 billion now.

 

[TigerOfPakistan]

Aint traveling either

 

[moghul]

I will do whatever I could to help Pakistan get rid of these corrupts, thieves stooges led by Zardari and Sharifs . No I'm not giving up on Pakistan , no way.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not a practical solution but this will accelerate brain drain. Expect the foreign debts to go to $300 billion now.

You may aswell throw your money down the drain if you are going to invest or spend in Pakistan under crooks.

 

[Major]

yes plz.

Infact, they should burn their Pakistani Passports and cnic.

However, what would American/Canadian Pakistans do? Sazish bhi america ke thee na? lol )

Plz boycot uss

 

[KingKhanWC]

Aint traveling either

I was planning on visiting Hunza, Gilgit this summer. Not a chance now.

I think I might visit Iraq instead.

 

[Major]

Dont worry, alot of you lot use Hundi and Hawala system already, the govt wont get any of your monies through that way

 

[Local.Dada]

I guess Usa and UK got lucky . They can get undivided loyalty and contribution from their citizens without any distractions.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

There is no chance I will spend even a rupee in Pakistan if Zardari and Sharifs are in charge.

No visits, no investing and certainly no sending money unless some poor fella I know needs it.

Why send money or visit only for thieves to steal it all?

why should we?
We have families to take care of back home.
First you guys said not to pay electric bills now this.

 

[IMMY69]

There is no chance I will spend even a rupee in Pakistan if Zardari and Sharifs are in charge.

No visits, no investing and certainly no sending money unless some poor fella I know needs it.

Why send money or visit only for thieves to steal it all?

I'm pulling out completely.
Will continue the family charity work because it goes straight to the poor.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

yes plz.

Infact, they should burn their Pakistani Passports and cnic.

However, what would American/Canadian Pakistans do? Sazish bhi america ke thee na? lol )

Plz boycot uss

I am still waiting for Shabaz gill to give up his green card and Vawda to return American Passport.

 

[SportsWarrior]

yeah, that will teach them. Les cut our nose to spite face. Pakistan is already struggling with low forex, and lets choke them more because we did not get our way...

 

[Major]

yeah, that will teach them. Les cut our nose to spite face. Pakistan is already struggling with low forex, and lets choke them more because we did not get our way...

dont worry, they only talk.
This is the same lot that said we would live and move back to Pakistan when Imran is PM. They did bhangra when some foolish doctor made a video of moving back to Pakistan on facebook. That doctor retracted and stayed back in US.

I hope this time they actually follow the talk.

 

[Savak]

I want a good leader for Pakistan but someone without the weight of hype and expectations.

 

[KingKhanWC]

why should we?
We have families to take care of back home.
First you guys said not to pay electric bills now this.

I dont.

Im not willing to put in a single rupee into the hands of these traitors and thieves. You are free to do so.

 

[Rajdeep]

yes plz.

Infact, they should burn their Pakistani Passports and cnic.

However, what would American/Canadian Pakistans do? Sazish bhi america ke thee na? lol )

Plz boycot uss

Have a look at PKR value today amidst all these drama. Who suffers? Its local Pakistani's like you.

OP earning in Great British Pounds will have zero impact...they will simply support Imran blindly.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

I dont.

Im not willing to put in a single rupee into the hands of these traitors and thieves. You are free to do so.

so you are free to not to send.
What a logic lol

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Overseas Pakistanis should do the following:

1 - pull their money out of the Roshan Savings account asap. this should remove alot of forex from not to mention with the crooks its a risk keeping one rupee in Pakistan let alone thousands of dollars.

2 - Send remittances via the Hawla/Hundi system.

3 - Avoid vacationing in Pakistan

4 - Avoid giving charity in Pakistan.

The best thing we can do for Pakistan is try to make the situation worse than it is now. Let the rupee hit 250 or even 300. Short term pain for long term gain.

 

[Major]

Have a look at PKR value today amidst all these drama. Who suffers? Its local Pakistani's like you.

OP earning in Great British Pounds will have zero impact...they will simply support Imran blindly.

Oh no, Pakistani people are going to suffer because [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] is not sending 100 pounds to our system.

 

[Major]

Overseas Pakistanis should do the following:

1 - pull their money out of the Roshan Savings account asap. this should remove alot of forex from not to mention with the crooks its a risk keeping one rupee in Pakistan let alone thousands of dollars.

2 - Send remittances via the Hawla/Hundi system.

3 - Avoid vacationing in Pakistan

4 - Avoid giving charity in Pakistan.

The best thing we can do for Pakistan is try to make the situation worse than it is now. Let the rupee hit 250 or even 300. Short term pain for long term gain.

busted!

PTI fans support corruption, here is an example of an overseas Pakistani who wants people to use Hundu and Hawala system.

ANd than these people have the audacity to call local Pakistanis as chor and non tax payer

Uff the hypocrisy keeps on getting exposed

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

busted!

PTI fans support corruption, here is an example of an overseas Pakistani who wants people to use Hundu and Hawala system.

ANd than these people have the audacity to call local Pakistanis as chor and non tax payer

Uff the hypocrisy keeps on getting exposed

You want PTI to bring a knife to a gun fight? Get real. In a country like Pakistan PTI will need to fight dirty to win.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Overseas Pakistanis should do the following:

1 - pull their money out of the Roshan Savings account asap. this should remove alot of forex from not to mention with the crooks its a risk keeping one rupee in Pakistan let alone thousands of dollars.

From September 2020 when the RDAs were introduced to the end of January, total funds received through these accounts amounted to $3.38 billion. About 69pc of these funds were parked in NPCs. It means total investments in NPCs equalled $2.32bn between September 2020 and January.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1673880

This money needs to be pulled out by overseas Pakistanis.

 

[Major]

You want PTI to bring a knife to a gun fight? Get real. In a country like Pakistan PTI will need to fight dirty to win.

So you accept that overseas pakistanis should be involved in corrupt pracrises of hundi and hawala

 

[cricketjoshila]

The leader is more important than the country?

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Lol drama queens.

Most of the money overseas Pakistanis send and most of the visits we make has nothing to do with the country or it’s economy. It has to do with the people.

I know this is true because I’m also in this overseas group and used to take ‘fake pride’ on helping Pakistan economy thru remittances

 

[MenInG]

Nothing of that sort.

We all have ties to Pakistan for different reasons.

Imran Khan at the helm gave it an extra flavour.

Unfortunately with the old corrupt boys moving in, there will be less reason to help in infrastructure types stuff but family support will continue.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1673880

This money needs to be pulled out by overseas Pakistanis.

This doesn’t make sense.

Most of the remittance money is sent by Pakistani laborers working in the Middle East to support families back home. They are abroad for the sole purpose of supporting family back home if they stopped sending that then it would make no sense for them to be abroad anyway.

Most of the remittances come from the gulf. It’s a misconception that US and even more so, UK, contribute a lot in this regard. Especially in case of second or third generation immigrants like OP, their impact on remittances is minimal.

So to summarize, either OP is doing topi drama or he is misinformed to the contribution his ilk have on remittance

 

[MenInG]

Overseas Pakistanis should do the following:

1 - pull their money out of the Roshan Savings account asap. this should remove alot of forex from not to mention with the crooks its a risk keeping one rupee in Pakistan let alone thousands of dollars.

2 - Send remittances via the Hawla/Hundi system.

3 - Avoid vacationing in Pakistan

4 - Avoid giving charity in Pakistan.

The best thing we can do for Pakistan is try to make the situation worse than it is now. Let the rupee hit 250 or even 300. Short term pain for long term gain.

I have no idea why you would break the law.

And if you give charity to help Imran Khan then I dont know what to say!

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Lol drama queens.

Most of the money overseas Pakistanis send and most of the visits we make has nothing to do with the country or it’s economy. It has to do with the people.

I know this is true because I’m also in this overseas group and used to take ‘fake pride’ on helping Pakistan economy thru remittances

nothing to do with the economy????? Remittances keep the current account deficit manageable. Take out the remittances like rupee might go to 400. Check out how much Pakistan imports and exports. And then see how much remittances are sent.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

This doesn’t make sense.

Most of the remittance money is sent by Pakistani laborers working in the Middle East to support families back home. They are abroad for the sole purpose of supporting family back home if they stopped sending that then it would make no sense for them to be abroad anyway.

Most of the remittances come from the gulf. It’s a misconception that US and even more so, UK, contribute a lot in this regard. Especially in case of second or third generation immigrants like OP, their impact on remittances is minimal.

So to summarize, either OP is doing topi drama or he is misinformed to the contribution his ilk have on remittance

I am well aware the majority of overseas Pakistanis are in the gulf. Their are other methods through sending the money besides from banks, see Hawla/Hundi.

 

[Technics 1210]

If only indigenous Pakistanis paid taxes then they wouldn’t be relying on foreign funds, this and the loot of thieves in Swiss bank accounts.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

So you accept that overseas pakistanis should be involved in corrupt pracrises of hundi and hawala

Unfortunately yes. As the worse Pakistan gets under PDM the better chance for IK to win the election is.

 

[Major]

Lol drama queens.

Most of the money overseas Pakistanis send and most of the visits we make has nothing to do with the country or it’s economy. It has to do with the people.

I know this is true because I’m also in this overseas group and used to take ‘fake pride’ on helping Pakistan economy thru remittances

thank you for being man enough to admit this

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

I have no idea why you would break the law.

And if you give charity to help Imran Khan then I dont know what to say!

The worse Pakistan gets under PDM the better chance for IK to win the election is. Do you think Zardari, Diesel, or Sharif's play fair? How many people did they buy out for this no confidence vote? Not to mention to elect Gilani in the senate? Is that fair? or should only IK have to play by the rules?

 

[Major]

Unfortunately yes. As the worse Pakistan gets under PDM the better chance for IK to win the election is.

Atleast you admit you are corrupt and want others to be corrupt.

No issues brother, carry on.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

This doesn’t make sense.

Most of the remittance money is sent by Pakistani laborers working in the Middle East to support families back home. They are abroad for the sole purpose of supporting family back home if they stopped sending that then it would make no sense for them to be abroad anyway.

PDM is about to disenfranchise these laborers from their right to vote. is that fair?

They are going to disenfranchised because they support IK. So they should send the remittances through alternate methods.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Atleast you admit you are corrupt and want others to be corrupt.

No issues brother, carry on.

I have no one in Pakistan to send remittances too.

 

[SportsWarrior]

I love BJP and Modi as I feel they are the best for India right now. But if someone else comes up tomorrow and is better for India I wouldn't think twice voting for them. This blind cultist faith in the leader and not the country is nauseating.

 

[Major]

PDM is about to disenfranchise these laborers from their right to vote. is that fair?

They are going to disenfranchised because they support IK. So they should send the remittances through alternate methods.

1. The bill that was passed to franchise them, it was never passed based on parliament discussion

2. They dont file taxes so why should they vote.

3.If bill stays, than its upto ECP to decide

 

[Major]

I have no one in Pakistan to send remittances too.

so you want others to do corruption?

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

so you want others to do corruption?

If it can help IK win then yes. Supporters of Zardari are going to try to shame me? We all know how Zardari operates. At least I am thinking of the greater good. IK is the only person who can save Pakistan. So yes, if it can help IK then i support this.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

1. The bill that was passed to franchise them, it was never passed based on parliament discussion

2. They dont file taxes so why should they vote.

3.If bill stays, than its upto ECP to decide

And yet you want their remittances done in a legal way.

 

[Local.Dada]

And yet you want their remittances done in a legal way.

Dude remittance is not an act of patriotism or a favor. People send money to help their own families or friends or for their own investment.

 

[Major]

Dude remittance is not an act of patriotism or a favor. People send money to help their own families or friends or for their own investment.

They wont understand.

Remitance is sent to help families it only helps economy indirectly.

If they want to help the country under imran, than file taxes in pakistan. But they wont file their tax.

The filing is donenonline btw

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

nothing to do with the economy????? Remittances keep the current account deficit manageable. Take out the remittances like rupee might go to 400. Check out how much Pakistan imports and exports. And then see how much remittances are sent.

Clearly you didn’t understand.

What I’m saying is that we send money not because of the economy’s state or the government in power. We send it for our families etc. and we will do that REGARDLESS of who is in power.

The aim to send money ain’t to help the economy. It’s to help the families

 

[shortbread]

If knee jerk reacting were an Olympic sport, Pakistan is assured a gold everytime!

 

[happydavy]

I can understand that IK supporters would be feeling let down and hurt but i don't understand this whole projection of IK being the honest guy. I could be wrong but based upon all the media reports, both domestic (Pakistan) and international, the 2018 elections were rigged blatantly to make PTI win as many seats as they finally won. Isn't that true? If so where's the question of IK having honesty or integrity.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I love BJP and Modi as I feel they are the best for India right now. But if someone else comes up tomorrow and is better for India I wouldn't think twice voting for them. This blind cultist faith in the leader and not the country is nauseating.

Zardari and Nawaz are thieves. You dont help them loot and steal.

Besides its only a year or so at most. When bandits are gone, things will be better than ever.

Zardari and Bilo can themselves make up any losses from their stolen wealth.

 

[Major]

Zardari and Nawaz are thieves. You dont help them loot and steal.

Besides its only a year or so at most. When bandits are gone, things will be better than ever.

Zardari and Bilo can themselves make up any losses from their stolen wealth.

you are saying that rupee should fall to 300+. How will things get better than? Imran will reverse the rupee?

I understand that pti fans had a wish where they wanted to claim the first pm to every complete a 5 year term and that dream has been destroyed, but atleast use some sense.

 

[KingKhanWC]

you are saying that rupee should fall to 300+. How will things get better than? Imran will reverse the rupee?

I understand that pti fans had a wish where they wanted to claim the first pm to every complete a 5 year term and that dream has been destroyed, but atleast use some sense.

I never mentioned anything about rupee or any finances of Pakistan.

My point is simple even for PPP fans.

Sending money while theives are in charge is stupid, unless to help a poor person. Investing in land, property, business or even spending £ thousands as a tourist makes no sense.

When IK returns next year, back to before.

 

[Sidilicious]

I love BJP and Modi as I feel they are the best for India right now. But if someone else comes up tomorrow and is better for India I wouldn't think twice voting for them. This blind cultist faith in the leader and not the country is nauseating.

One thing I have realised that Pakistanis seem to focus too much on personality or on that 1 messiah who will save them. I see the same in their cricket too. They also don't seem to care for the systems and institutions, bust just about one person. I can understand people wanting for Imran to stay in power, but not by unconstitutional means. They don't realise the long term impact of such actions.

This might have been the Indians took about 30 years back. But it seems that we are maturing now. We realise that systems and institutions are the way forward. I am completely opposite of you on my political beliefs. I do not support Modi and BJP on most things. I never agree with people like [MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla on politics either. But we have the same goals in the end. But means are different. But in the end, we want the best for India and its people.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Dude remittance is not an act of patriotism or a favor. People send money to help their own families or friends or for their own investment.

Right but the govt is also benefiting. Check out the current account deficit and see what would happen if their is no remittances.

People can help their families without having to send their money through the proper channels. This is a govt that will take away the right to vote from overseas Pakistanis so why should they help them?

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

One thing I have realised that Pakistanis seem to focus too much on personality or on that 1 messiah who will save them. I see the same in their cricket too. They also don't seem to care for the systems and institutions, bust just about one person. I can understand people wanting for Imran to stay in power, but not by unconstitutional means. They don't realise the long term impact of such actions.

This might have been the Indians took about 30 years back. But it seems that we are maturing now. We realise that systems and institutions are the way forward. I am completely opposite of you on my political beliefs. I do not support Modi and BJP on most things. I never agree with people like [MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla on politics either. But we have the same goals in the end. But means are different. But in the end, we want the best for India and its people.

Almost every party in Pakistan except PTI and some Mullah parties are run by the same family. just look at PPP - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto, and now Bilawal Bhutto Zardari. This is the messiah system when one family is like God.


PTI is like BJP in the sense that its not a family run party. IK's children will not take over.

 

[Major]

Almost every party in Pakistan except PTI and some Mullah parties are run by the same family. just look at PPP - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto, and now Bilawal Bhutto Zardari. This is the messiah system when one family is like God.


PTI is like BJP in the sense that its not a family run party. IK's children will not take over.

umm no. Benazir and Bilawal were dragged into the politics because of the murder of their parent. You expect them to ignore this?

PTI will be taken over by the Tareens who son is also there in politics.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

umm no. Benazir and Bilawal were dragged into the politics because of the murder of their parent. You expect them to ignore this?

PTI will be taken over by the Tareens who son is also there in politics.

The backstabber Tareen is no longer part of PTI.

And IK has already said he made a mistake in giving tickets to lotas. He will not do that again in the next election.

umm no. Benazir and Bilawal were dragged into the politics because of the murder of their parent. You expect them to ignore this?

So if ZAB and Benazir did not die PPP would have internal democracy in their party? They would be different than all the other family parties? Really you believe that?

 

[Barragan]

Me and my family were planning to open roshan digital accounts, but that is definitely not happening now!!

Like the OP says, these looters shouldn't be getting any of our dime.

I'd rather Pak suffers in the short term, for a long term gain.

 

[Major]

The backstabber Tareen is no longer part of PTI.

And IK has already said he made a mistake in giving tickets to lotas. He will not do that again in the next election.



So if ZAB and Benazir did not die PPP would have internal democracy in their party? They would be different than all the other family parties? Really you believe that?

Benazir only came due to the situation that Zia created. Had ZAB not been killed, his family would not had been dead. He only has one daughter alive today.

 

[Raja Ishtiaq]

There is no chance I will spend even a rupee in Pakistan if Zardari and Sharifs are in charge.

No visits, no investing and certainly no sending money unless some poor fella I know needs it.

Why send money or visit only for thieves to steal it all?

As an overseas Pakistani myself, I'm not gonna stop visiting.

I visited Pakistan in February and trust me the ordinary people were sick of PTI and the inflation in prices. People are struggling to make ends meet. Forget them, even I thought it was expensive

But armchair experts living abroad who are living a relatively comfortable life like yourself have the nerve to tell people in Pakistan to stop complaining and to just deal with it.

How dare you? If people were happy under Nawaz Sharif's rule then who are you to say otherwise?

Looking forward to prices to drop in Pakistan now. It's going to be fun visiting again.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

As an overseas Pakistani myself, I'm not gonna stop visiting.

I visited Pakistan in February and trust me the ordinary people were sick of PTI and the inflation in prices. People are struggling to make ends meet. Forget them, even I thought it was expensive

But armchair experts living abroad who are living a relatively comfortable life like yourself have the nerve to tell people in Pakistan to stop complaining and to just deal with it.

How dare you? If people were happy under Nawaz Sharif's rule then who are you to say otherwise?

Looking forward to prices to drop in Pakistan now. It's going to be fun visiting again.

Best way to know what people want is to have elections right? PTI supporters would love for elections to be held asap.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No reason to stop investing or visiting.

If you have love something you support through thick and thin.

We have lives of privilege and comfort in the west. If we really deeply cared about Pakistani people instead of pontificating and lecturing from afar, now is the time to invest in the grass roots of the country.

Young, educated and technically gifted tech entrepreneurs and booming in Pakistan. These youngsters will shape the country in the future. Investing in these types of companies and individuals will bear fruit in the future.

Boycotting these individuals and even boycotting normal businesses in Pakistan just sends ordinary people towards a path of corruption.

Unfortunately, most overseas Pakistanis idea of investment is to buy properties and make thieir family in Pakistan live like free loaders.

 

[NishanKonar]

Imran Khan ******* are so patriotic that they wud rather see their country gown down under and face severe
economic collapse - so that their man can win

This is so bizarre !

As much as I hate Modi and BJP - I will never wish India to go down to teach Modi bhakts a lesson

ps: Reminds me of a conversation with a Pakistani colleague many year back. He said a fundamental difference between India and Pakistan. Indians are extremely patriotic who put their nation above everything else. Pakistanis are not. They are more loyal to their community or leaders. n Reading comments on this forum - I think he was correct

 

[KingKhanWC]

As an overseas Pakistani myself, I'm not gonna stop visiting.

I visited Pakistan in February and trust me the ordinary people were sick of PTI and the inflation in prices. People are struggling to make ends meet. Forget them, even I thought it was expensive

But armchair experts living abroad who are living a relatively comfortable life like yourself have the nerve to tell people in Pakistan to stop complaining and to just deal with it.

How dare you? If people were happy under Nawaz Sharif's rule then who are you to say otherwise?

Looking forward to prices to drop in Pakistan now. It's going to be fun visiting again.

lol. You think inflation is going to decrease with bandits in charge.

Only uneducated or tribal mindset people or those who also indulge in corruption were happy with Nawaz. Since then many of those have woken up.

Under Imran 0 drone attacks. Under your leader, dozens, under Zardair hundreds. You would be signing a different tune if a drone killed someone close to you.

Please invest every penny, you will need as most overseas Paks will not be spending any with these traitors in charge.

How much have you got to invest? Send email to Nawaz so he can advise his accountants more money to put in his banks abroad.

 

[Mamoon]

When have overseas Pakistanis cared about Pakistan? No one cares about you lot and your identity crisis.

Please continue to worship your foreign passports. That is all that matters to you.

 

[Technics 1210]

Sour grapes from [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] here. He has stated categorically, many times, he rues the day he missed the opportunity to move to the UK. It is in fact he who worships the foreign passport. Jealousy and Stockholm syndrome spring to mind. Still the closest he will ever be to living in UK is supporting Arsenal. )

 

[SportsWarrior]

One thing I have realised that Pakistanis seem to focus too much on personality or on that 1 messiah who will save them. I see the same in their cricket too. They also don't seem to care for the systems and institutions, bust just about one person. I can understand people wanting for Imran to stay in power, but not by unconstitutional means. They don't realise the long term impact of such actions.

This might have been the Indians took about 30 years back. But it seems that we are maturing now. We realise that systems and institutions are the way forward. I am completely opposite of you on my political beliefs. I do not support Modi and BJP on most things. I never agree with people like [MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla on politics either. But we have the same goals in the end. But means are different. But in the end, we want the best for India and its people.

Agreed. Having lots of Pakistani friends, one reason to be on this thread, what I have observed is there love for that one person (in all facets of life), impatience to wait and work for change, consistently looking to compromise and ready to break rules. They don't seem to realize that you need few generational sacrifices to build a nation. They keep resetting due to their impatience. Perfect is the enemy of good. A lot of good can be done by people who are imperfect. Examples include Gandhi, P v Narasihma Rao, Manmohan Singh, Modi, Krishna (Karnataka CM), Naidu (Andhra CM), etc. All the above have had major issues in multiple areas, but still able to take there country forward. None of them are perfect but very competent. Few in that list are corrupt but again had great administrative skills and experience to succeed.

Second paragraph is what makes democracies succeed. Two rival party supporters need not agree on policies but as long as they are able to be civil the country/state will move forward. Look at Delhi and Punjab, BJP crashed and died. The AAP and BJP ran a spirited campaign and lots of mud slinging but in the end they congratulated the winner and move forward. Same in UP. When the parties don't do that as in West Bengal you can see the bloodshed. Same is happening in USA. If you keep calling everyone traitor and abuse them there will come a time all your opponents with different idealogical gloss will unite and bring your downfall.

What imran has done is he has permanently soured relationship with USA and west. Even if he returns to powee he will not have a working relationship with them. With all the chest thumping by South Asians, all the countries need west support. With all the west hatred, people don't realize that the western hegemony is much better than the one of Chinese/Russian hegemony. So Imran will struggle build relationships with these countries and thereby hurting pakistan.

 

[KingKhanWC]

When have overseas Pakistanis cared about Pakistan? No one cares about you lot and your identity crisis.

Please continue to worship your foreign passports. That is all that matters to you.

We worship the Almighty which is why we dont loot the nation we claim to love. Never forget you and the thieves are the minority and will always be the minority. A few sellouts in parliament wont change this.

Have you been doing Bhangra with modi and co today? The good times are back, make hay while the sun shines. $$$ Send some to Bombay too, they could do with some $$$ for their poverty.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Almost every party in Pakistan except PTI and some Mullah parties are run by the same family. just look at PPP - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto, and now Bilawal Bhutto Zardari. This is the messiah system when one family is like God.


PTI is like BJP in the sense that its not a family run party. IK's children will not take over.

Pti is more like AAP. Big difference is that AAP actually brought fully new faces to change the rules political game. I applaud them for it. I am in their rival camp but they are doing great for Indian politics. I wish congress does the same. Decades back I campaigned for them and still have some soft spot. But there nepotism, leadership, corruption and lack of coherent policy have driven them to ground.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Sour grapes from [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] here. He has stated categorically, many times, he rues the day he missed the opportunity to move to the UK. It is in fact he who worships the foreign passport. Jealousy and Stockholm syndrome spring to mind. Still the closest he will ever be to living in UK is supporting Arsenal. )

Arsenal were also gunning for 4th but that seems to have subsided recently. The same will happen here soon enough. Bombay Indians would be the better team to support for those who dont even want Pakistan to exists and for those who wish Pakistani schoolchildren to be bombed by India because they will grow up as terrorists.

 

[Major]

We worship the Almighty which is why we dont loot the nation we claim to love. Never forget you and the thieves are the minority and will always be the minority. A few sellouts in parliament wont change this.

Have you been doing Bhangra with modi and co today? The good times are back, make hay while the sun shines. $$$ Send some to Bombay too, they could do with some $$$ for their poverty.

Then why is it that many overseas Pakistans that come back to Pakistan, they make sure to call a family or friend to help out at the customs.... Have you ever done this?

You dont want to send money back to Pakistan, but happily pay taxes in the West that uses it against muslim countries or have a tilt towards Israel...

Ironic

If not y

 

[khan-92]

I was planning on visiting Hunza, Gilgit this summer. Not a chance now.

I think I might visit Iraq instead.

I agree with you was planning to visit these places as well.
Might as well come Al Quds in Palestine with me no vaccine required Alhumdulilah.

 

[Suleiman]

Very cute thread.

Unfortunately, Pakistan and its residents don’t give a flying duck about overseas Pakistanis. You and me ditched our country to live abroad because we wanted to live a better life. Who are we to dictate terms from hundreds and hundreds of miles away.

I can understand your frustration, but, temper your expectations.

 

[Energy]

The ironic thing here is that the current UK government is most corrupt on record with serious scandals and integrity failures. Yet I haven't seen any British Pakistanis harping about leaving the UK and join the pious lands around the world?

The Supreme Court decision yesterday is historic because it puts Pakistan's constitution above anything else or any single person. You can like or dislike Imran Khan, and his style of governance, but you'd have to be absurd minded to think what he did four days ago was correct.

Anyway, on topic. Pakistan will continue to live on the way it's been living with financial contributions from hard working overseas Pakistanis to their families. The CPEC project will continue and no party is going to come in the way of that.

Anyone who thinks PTI will be back in power if it came down to general elections hasn't been to Pakistan in the last couple of years and is unaware of the ground reality.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

The ironic thing here is that the current UK government is most corrupt on record with serious scandals and integrity failures. Yet I haven't seen any British Pakistanis harping about leaving the UK and join the pious lands around the world?

The Supreme Court decision yesterday is historic because it puts Pakistan's constitution above anything else or any single person. You can like or dislike Imran Khan, and his style of governance, but you'd have to be absurd minded to think what he did four days ago was correct.

Anyway, on topic. Pakistan will continue to live on the way it's been living with financial contributions from hard working overseas Pakistanis to their families. The CPEC project will continue and no party is going to come in the way of that.

Anyone who thinks PTI will be back in power if it came down to general elections hasn't been to Pakistan in the last couple of years and is unaware of the ground reality.

This is the latest Gallup Pakistan poll from January 2022. Check out Column 7 to see who is leading. Will give you a hint, its not PML N, or PPP.


https://www.gallup.com.pk/post/32893

 

[Itachi]

PTI supporters seems like gullible and not aware of the system. I was surprised that people think this type of saga NCM would be allowed.

Then comes the overseas supporters who are on another level comparing IK to the prophet.

No wonder IK has so much publicity yet on a shaky ground.

 

[bones]

We have family and friends in Pakistan and so we can’t really boycott anything. Sadly almost all of my family in Pakistan are blinded by loyalty and will vote PML until the day they die no material what.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

The ironic thing here is that the current UK government is most corrupt on record with serious scandals and integrity failures. Yet I haven't seen any British Pakistanis harping about leaving the UK and join the pious lands around the world?

The Supreme Court decision yesterday is historic because it puts Pakistan's constitution above anything else or any single person. You can like or dislike Imran Khan, and his style of governance, but you'd have to be absurd minded to think what he did four days ago was correct.

Anyway, on topic. Pakistan will continue to live on the way it's been living with financial contributions from hard working overseas Pakistanis to their families. The CPEC project will continue and no party is going to come in the way of that.

Anyone who thinks PTI will be back in power if it came down to general elections hasn't been to Pakistan in the last couple of years and is unaware of the ground reality.

The horse trading and flooring cross case is also unconstitutional and it was filed with the judiciary BEFORE this yesterday's SC saga.
That case has NOT been addressed or heard yet, do you know why?

 

[SportsWarrior]

This is the latest Gallup Pakistan poll from January 2022. Check out Column 7 to see who is leading. Will give you a hint, its not PML N, or PPP.


https://www.gallup.com.pk/post/32893

From somewhere else on the internet [/b]

What’s even more fascinating is the results of the second and third questions in the report (downloadable from: https://www.gallup.com.pk/post/33081 )

Imran Khan says that the move to oust his government is a result of a foreign conspiracy. On the other hand, opposition says no foreign conspiracy is being hatched but Imran Khan’s government has not been able to provide relief to the people and inflation has risen so it is necessary to remove them. Do you think Imran Khan is being ousted because of inflation or because of foreign conspiracies?

• Because of foreign conspiracies, 36%

• Because of inflation, 64%

.

Imran Khan ruled for 3.5 years. Are you satisfied with the performance of their government or not satisfied?

• Satisfied, 46%

• Dissatisfied, 54%

.

One thing to note is that the support for or against is heavily split by party that the polled plan to vote for[/b]


People are worried about inflation more than the foreign interference and more people think IK is doing a bad job. You can see from the survey yourself. If at the height id this controversy this is the public opinion than by the time election come around it won't matter. People will not care about IK foreign interference angle.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

From somewhere else on the internet [/b]

What’s even more fascinating is the results of the second and third questions in the report (downloadable from: https://www.gallup.com.pk/post/33081 )


People are worried about inflation more than the foreign interference and more people think IK is doing a bad job. You can see from the survey yourself. If at the height id this controversy this is the public opinion than by the time election come around it won't matter. People will not care about IK foreign interference angle.

I had seen that poll as well, and 36% i think is a huge number, especially since most likely their was no foreign conspiracy at all. It rejuvenated IK's own substantial voter base. And it might flip some voters from other parties.

Also the people who dislike IK will not necessarily vote for the same party. Their voters will be among several different groups.

Most important is how long does PDM govern. If they decide to stay in power for the rest of the term then they will be responsible for inflation in the eyes of the voters. Can they lower inflation by some short term measure? Maybe. However during IK's term the State Bank was made independent and PDM wont be able to artificially keep the value of the rupee low like what PML N did through 2013 through 2017.

 

[SportsWarrior]

I had seen that poll as well, and 36% i think is a huge number, especially since most likely their was no foreign conspiracy at all. It rejuvenated IK's own substantial voter base. And it might flip some voters from other parties.

Also the people who dislike IK will not necessarily vote for the same party. Their voters will be among several different groups.

Most important is how long does PDM govern. If they decide to stay in power for the rest of the term then they will be responsible for inflation in the eyes of the voters. Can they lower inflation by some short term measure? Maybe. However during IK's term the State Bank was made independent and PDM wont be able to artificially keep the value of the rupee low like what PML N did through 2013 through 2017.

36% is not a big enough number sir considering that this is the peak it will be. It will not exceed it as by the time the election comes across it will get toned down. Opposition parties will have their narrative and the only way IK can get any milage js if it can be corroborated by someone. Already SC has not considered it and there are reports in Reuters quoting pakistan military that there was no truth. So if at the peak of mania majority of the people don't believe it then it won't be a big factor six months down the line.