Pakistan (107/3) secure a convincing 7-wicket victory against Canada (106/7) in a must win game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2024

Are there people who rate Babar as the best Pakistani batter ever?
@daytrader claimed he's the best all time objectively. I even asked him to clarify if he meant statistically or objectively, he said objectively.

I even made sure to add in saeed anwar name next to it and he said babar is >.

@Major Didn't say it, he just implied babar is more classy but he's the same dude who thinks Misbah is Pakistan's greatest whiteball batter since the 2000's era so am not suprised if he thinks it as well
 
Mohammad Amir after receiving Player of the match award:

"I think as a bowler you have to adopt the conditions and i think i was doing the same and trying to hit the same areas (as required) that is why i got the success."

"as a professional you have to ready to bowl in any situation of the game. And my role is clear i know what i have to with new ball and in death overs. I am clear with my plans and that is why i am getting the success."

"The plan was setup the batter (Navneet Dhaliwal ) and i bowled three-four away deliveries, and then finally i bowled an inswinger."

"It was much-needed victory for us and who knows if we win the next game (anything can happen)."
 
If Pakistan is to qualify,they have to beat Ireland and Ireland has to best usa. Right?
 
I want Pakistan match to be washed out on Sunday to get these clowns out of tournament and better changes in the team. They don't deserve to go to super 8. That was pathetic on Sunday, have been watching cricket since 90s many ups and downs. Sunday was spineless effort . I don't care if you win or lose but show some guts..
 
If Pakistan is to qualify,they have to beat Ireland and Ireland has to best usa. Right?
Yes. The NRR gap is like 3-4 overs. So not huge and if USA loses then obviously their NRR is going to take a hit. Pakistan is playing last. So they will know how quick they will have to chase if they bat 2nd.
 
Finally a win
A Little too late though, and if the forecast holds true in florida these points will be worthless
Infact we may well be out of it if USA win against Ireland which is very possible
 
What does this say about squad selection when we are forced to play Shadab as a batter. Agha Salman and Aamer Jamal would have improved the balance so much more.

We could have played Aamer instead of Rauf and played Abrar as a specialist spinner.
spot on...
 
Babar Azam in a post match ceremony:

"Good for us, we needed this win. All credits to the team, we bowled well in the first six overs."

"I think we will go with same mindset against Ireland and the conditions will be much better (at Florida). So, we will try our best to win the next game."

"I was angry because i got out to the same shot again. Ramiz: then stop playing that shot Babar: It is my shot but sometimes it does not work out."
 
Happens to the best of us, I lost it when India lost home series to England didn't want for an year lol until the next home series against Aus which we won (2012)
my worst moment when Pak lost to Aus in test match in 2010
 
Not celebrating, brother. Just didn't see Canada beating PAK. They're too weak.
Ik but I was going with mentality. Even today Pakistan isn't mentally their. Only babar seems to have switched on. Rest of the dugout is still timid and in cry baby mode.

Khair skill gap was shown here between the 2 sides
 
Ik but I was going with mentality. Even today Pakistan isn't mentally their. Only babar seems to have switched on. Rest of the dugout is still timid and in cry baby mode.

Khair skill gap was shown here between the 2 sides
Correct. No amount of mentality can bridge this skill gap

Also , Canada only had a chance if they bowled first I thought.
 
Amir fires Pakistan to victory against Canada in crucial Group A clash

Two losses from two games had Pakistan teetering on the brink in Group A of the ICC Men's T20 World Cup, with three teams above them in the race for Super 8 qualification – including today’s opponents Canada.

And they made slow progress towards their target, eventually reaching 107/3 to win by seven wickets after 17 and a half overs.

A strong showing in the field meant they were able to secure the victory they knew they needed if they are to progress - but they may yet regret not winning more resoundingly if they fail to grab their place in the next stage of the tournament.

Canada made 106/7 from 20 overs, thanks primarily to a brilliant half-century from Aaron Johnson.

Pakistan went into the match knowing that they needed a win at the Nassau County International Stadium, and quite possibly by a significant margin, to get their campaign back on track with one more group fixture (against Ireland) to follow.

The loss to USA in their opener was a shock, and defeat last time out to rivals India has left Pakistan in a bit of a hole in a group that has provided plenty of drama so far. Canada were surprise but deserving winners over Ireland last week, recording what will undoubtedly go down as a famous World Cup win.

But a second group-stage victory for the Canadians here would be the team’s biggest ever result in the format without question.

Pakistan made one change to their line-up, bringing in Saim Ayub up the order in place of Iftikhar Ahmed, while Canada named Ravinderpal Singh in place of Dilpreet Bajwa.

Mohammad Amir made an early breakthrough with a terrific ball demolishing the stumps of Navneet Dhaliwal, leaving Canada 20/1 after three overs.

And Shaheen Shah Afridi - who went for ten runs in the first over of the innings - benefited from a smart change of ends, striking with the very first ball from the other end as Pargat Singh edged to Fakhar Zaman, and leaving Canada on 29/2 after the first ball of the sixth over.

A flurry of wickets followed. Nicholas Kirton was sent packing, run out after scoring a single, courtesy of swift thinking from Imad Wasim and ending a potentially fruitful partnership with Aaron Johnson.

And Haris Rauf tempted Shreyas Movva to nick on to wicketkeeper Rizwan - securing his 100th wicket in T20 internationals.

The 101st was not too long in following, coming two balls later as new batter Ravinderpal Singh edged to slip, and by the end of the tenth over Canada were 55/5.

Johnson did manage to lead a brief resurgence, with 52 off 44 balls, before being bowled decisively by Naseem Shah.

And captain Saad bin Zafar was next to fall, with another thick edge behind to Rizwan off Amir.

Kaleem Sana and Dilon Heyliger took Canada over the century mark, giving Pakistan a target of 107 to win - although they will also be aware that they need to consider net run-rate if they are to make it through to the next stage of the tournament.

After a slow-scoring first three overs, Saim Ayub made an effort to push it on, and got a scare when he lofted a no-look shot towards Dhaliwal who palmed the ball away rather than closing his fingers around it.

And in the fifth over Saim got his marching orders, edging Heyliger through to wicketkeeper Movva for just 6 runs.

The experienced duo of Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan looked set fair to steer Pakistan to victory, with a partnership of 63 from 62 balls.

But Heyliger struck again, luring Babar to an edge behind for 33 to make the last five overs even tougher.

Rizwan got the job done, though, making an unbeaten 53, despite new partner Fakhar holing Gordon out to the substitute fielder Dilpreet Bajwa with just three more runs required.


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Pak may have won but this was such a poor effort by their batsmen. They could have chased in 14 overs or even earlier to go over USAs NRR. They should have gone hammer and tongs and upped the NRR - a real missed opportunity. Tuk tuk defensive batting. Not complaining though as it puts USA in a better spot with NRR assuming they lose to Ind and Ireland. Ind is a long shot but Ireland certainly beatable for USA but if not atleast USA will have a higher NRR than Pak. This is where I think Pak missed the boat - a mistake that will cost them the Super 8 stage. And frankly such a defensive team doesnt deserve to be in the Super 8. Ind is celebrating the win over Pak with the team videos they uploaded - as if they won the WC . Eng is still not out yet and Aus and WI will be lurking in the SFs.
 
Pak may have won but this was such a poor effort by their batsmen. They could have chased in 14 overs or even earlier to go over USAs NRR. They should have gone hammer and tongs and upped the NRR - a real missed opportunity. Tuk tuk defensive batting. Not complaining though as it puts USA in a better spot with NRR assuming they lose to Ind and Ireland. Ind is a long shot but Ireland certainly beatable for USA but if not atleast USA will have a higher NRR than Pak. This is where I think Pak missed the boat - a mistake that will cost them the Super 8 stage. And frankly such a defensive team doesnt deserve to be in the Super 8. Ind is celebrating the win over Pak with the team videos they uploaded - as if they won the WC . Eng is still not out yet and Aus and WI will be lurking in the SFs.
US is not going to the next stage because of NRR. If they lose both games, their NRR comes down.

US has to either beat Ireland or rain washes out either one or both games in Florida.
 
For once, I wish most T20I pictches are like New York where the bowlers get some advantage over batsmen. Otherwise the game has become all too much about 200+ scores.
Or at least pitches where teams average score is 150-160.
 
US is not going to the next stage because of NRR. If they lose both games, their NRR comes down.

US has to either beat Ireland or rain washes out either one or both games in Florida.
Yes agree but if both the USA games are close and if Pak has a close win as well - then USA can have a higher NRR based on the victory margins for all. Pak had the chance to take the NRR totally out of the equation today - thats what I am saying buy they did not.
 
Pak may have won but this was such a poor effort by their batsmen. They could have chased in 14 overs or even earlier to go over USAs NRR. They should have gone hammer and tongs and upped the NRR - a real missed opportunity. Tuk tuk defensive batting. Not complaining though as it puts USA in a better spot with NRR assuming they lose to Ind and Ireland. Ind is a long shot but Ireland certainly beatable for USA but if not atleast USA will have a higher NRR than Pak. This is where I think Pak missed the boat - a mistake that will cost them the Super 8 stage. And frankly such a defensive team doesnt deserve to be in the Super 8. Ind is celebrating the win over Pak with the team videos they uploaded - as if they won the WC . Eng is still not out yet and Aus and WI will be lurking in the SFs.

They definitely should have made it easier on themselves with a quick chase.

Although someone calculated that Pakistan only has to win by 8-9 runs if the Americans lose by the closest possible margin in both games.

I think the biggest concern is the weather in Lauderhill.
 
For once, I wish most T20I pictches are like New York where the bowlers get some advantage over batsmen. Otherwise the game has become all too much about 200+ scores.
Or at least pitches where teams average score is 150-160.
The best T202WC group stage ever, Has been so exciting. Close games with no teams guaranteed quick Super 8 entry. Heck , SL , NZ , Eng and Pak all can be out before the Super8 stage
 
The best T202WC group stage ever, Has been so exciting. Close games with no teams guaranteed quick Super 8 entry. Heck , SL , NZ , Eng and Pak all can be out before the Super8 stage
Yeah even Bangladesh couldn't chase a low score though they beat NZ other day.
 
Shadab keeps his place because domicile matters

Yes agree but if both the USA games are close and if Pak has a close win as well - then USA can have a higher NRR based on the victory margins for all. Pak had the chance to take the NRR totally out of the equation today - thats what I am saying buy they did not.
Totally agree. But, if Pak were even half as ruthless as other teams are they wouldnt be in this position.
 
@daytrader

I thought you'd be here today bro, your home country of birth and home country of current occupancy are playing.

Whatever the outcome its a win win for you, only drawback its in USA and not Canada, otherwise you'd be able to attend live as well.

I've been watching on the go on my phone so didn't follow on pp. Not gonna lie, part of me wanted Canada to win today.

If Pak hadn't bottled the first 2 games, I would've taken a day off to watch it properly. But the way the team is playing at the moment, I'm not going to make the time to watch it on TV, live game toh door ki baat.
 
Yes agree but if both the USA games are close and if Pak has a close win as well - then USA can have a higher NRR based on the victory margins for all. Pak had the chance to take the NRR totally out of the equation today - thats what I am saying buy they did not.
Even if US wins by a combined total of 2 runs in both games, Pakistan needs to beat Ireland by 7 runs to leap-frog them on the table.

US isn’t qualifying over Pakistan over NRR. They have to beat Ireland or hope for rain in either or both games.
 
They definitely should have made it easier on themselves with a quick chase.

Although someone calculated that Pakistan only has to win by 8-9 runs if the Americans lose by the closest possible margin in both games.

I think the biggest concern is the weather in Lauderhill.

My concern isn’t with Pak chasing to catch up to the run rate, I’m thinking if Ireland win the toss and put us into bat, I fear Ireland will reach the score that would knock Pakistan out.
 
Even if US wins by a combined total of 2 runs in both games, Pakistan needs to beat Ireland by 7 runs to leap-frog them on the table.

US isn’t qualifying over Pakistan over NRR. They have to beat Ireland or hope for rain in either or both games.
If US win any of their remaining two games, they will qualify without NRR coming into play.
 
If US win any of their remaining two games, they will qualify without NRR coming into play.
Ofcourse.

That would be the USA clearing Pakistan on points, so NRR doesn’t come into play.

USA cannot qualify if it’s relying on NRR, which means it would have lost two games here on.
 
Really, Pakistan should have done better than that to boost their NRR. SHould have finished the game in 11 or 12 overs at most.
 
Even if US wins by a combined total of 2 runs in both games, Pakistan needs to beat Ireland by 7 runs to leap-frog them on the table.

US isn’t qualifying over Pakistan over NRR. They have to beat Ireland or hope for rain in either or both Fi
 
Even if US wins by a combined total of 2 runs in both games, Pakistan needs to beat Ireland by 7 runs to leap-frog them on the table.

US isn’t qualifying over Pakistan over NRR. They have to beat Ireland or hope for rain in either or both games.e

Everything depends on USA vs Ireland now. If USA wins that one. Pak is out.
 
Haris Rauf (Pakistan player) post-match Press Conference - 11th June 2024

[Reporter:]

Haris, you have won the match and the bowling was good. So, what do you think? What do you think about the future? You have less in your hands, but more in the hands of other teams. Now that you won today’s game, I’m sure you are more confident in winning another match.

[Haris Rauf:]

Yes, you know that winning is so important. You have to set a tone in any tournament, we won the match, our focus is on our games, and hopefully we win the next match. And then whatever happens, if we qualify, then God willingly, we will qualify and we will play good cricket in the future.

[Reporter:]

Haris, you are one of the senior players in the team. We played two matches: against USA and India. In both the matches the situation was such that we could have won. If we had hit a few shots, we could have won. If we had a wicket, we could have won. So where do you think the team faltered in both the matches? Could it be that they couldn't handle the pressure? Or the experience? Although, there shouldn't be any lack of experience. The team has a lot of experience. So, what do you think, as a player, where did the team falter in both the matches? You were very close to that. As a senior player, what do you think, where did you make mistakes, what was the reason for losing two matches?

[Haris Rauf:]

We played cricket well as a team. Obviously, you make mistakes and see those mistakes and then obviously we try to reduce the mistakes that we have made. We have T20 players, and we believe in ourselves. We will try to play good cricket in the future.

[Reporter:]

You have made a comeback after injury, and you are in good form. How is the mental fitness of the team after this win? Because it was quite low after losing two matches.

[Haris Rauf:]

I have come back after injury and I will try to give the same performances that I have given in the past for Pakistan. I will try to be as good as I can and I will try to be a part of the team. We won and this gives us a lot of confidence. Obviously when you win as a team, your morale goes up and you back each other a lot to reduce the mistakes.

[Reporter:]

We have been seeing in this tournament that your batting is not clicking, but our bowling attack is performing more than 100%. As a bowling unit, how confident were you? And also, were you expecting to perform so well after the injury?

[Haris Rauf:]

If we talk about the batting, obviously, as you all know, New York is not an easy condition for batting. As a bowling unit, we have tried to keep our team's low score and chase them easily. If you talk about yourself, you should believe that you have played such good cricket in the past, and given good performances and don’t let yourself down. If you do let yourself down, then you won't be able to make such a grand comeback. I had a lot of believe in myself and regretted the mistakes I made. I learnt a lot from my mistakes, improved my bowling and you get hungry to perform. I try to give my team as many performances as possible. Obviously when you play for Pakistan, it's a proud moment for you. I try to serve my country as much as I can. Whenever people remember me, they say I have given such good performances for Pakistan.

[Reporter:]

Haris. What about the start today? Did you get your lengths right at the start of the innings?

[Haris Rauf:]

We did not start well but we assessed the condition as soon as possible. So as a bowling unit, we had a comeback. So, I think it's very good. So, I think it's 107. We restricted the other team. Opposition side is fine.

[Reporter:]

Haris, just like we won today, so again, here. So now the next match is when – right now everyone is deciding that we won today, so we'll be back here. We have the next match. The whole nation is calculating whether we'll lose or not. Is this in the team's mind? Is there a chance of a Super 8?

[Haris Rauf:]

No, no. We're focusing on our match. No, we are just focusing on our match. If we win our match, then we will accept whatever happens.

[Reporter:]

Haris, you have completed 100 wickets in T20. What is your goal in international cricket?

[Haris Rauf:]

I don't have any goal. I can do 200-300 wickets, but I don’t think there is anything bigger than taking even one wicket for Pakistan.
 
Everything depends on USA vs Ireland now. If USA wins that one. Pak is out.
It will rain. There is no drainage system on the ground, not even a poor one.

Nepal v Sri Lanka was cancelled well before the ICC’s official announcement.

Pakistan and Sri Lanka have themselves to blame, but rain has killed whatever chancss they did have.

Well done to the ICC aswell, who will see four washouts atleast this week.
 
I want Pakistan match to be washed out on Sunday to get these clowns out of tournament and better changes in the team. They don't deserve to go to super 8. That was pathetic on Sunday, have been watching cricket since 90s many ups and downs. Sunday was spineless effort . I don't care if you win or lose but show some guts..
Don't worry, it was already planned by India to loose against USA and win against Ireland. The next two matches of India were already fixed yesterday night at 23.00 hrs GMT at "The Mayflower Pub", 117 Rotherhithe St, London SE16 4N.
 
I am not sure how Pakistanis are confident about NRR and they are assuming that USA loses to Ireland...!
 
This was actually quite a poor “victory” against (let’s remember) Canada.

Shaheen bowled an atrocious first over. Rauf bowled a bad first over. As usual it was Amir who had to show the way and then the rest got it through their brain cells what length to bowl.

Canada should have been restricted to 90.

And the run chase was probably the most gutless run chase I’ve seen in my life - especially against an associate, especially when NRR is on the line.

Really hollow victory
 
Definitely not a convincing win.

A convincing win would have been chasing this in 12-13 overs. Yes the pitch was tough but in theory there should be such a gulf in skill set between us and Canada that we should have walked this easily.

We bowled well for the most part. Batting was am altogether different story.

Not convincing but a win nonetheless and as a Pak supporter no matter how disappointed, angry and disillusioned i am I will take it to see us win a game.
 
It was a good run chase. One track mind fans who can’t look beyond their nose will cry about the run rate, but we have to understand that NRR will never be a problem.

Pakistan will qualify if they beat Ireland and USA lose both of their remaining games. If they don’t, they are out, so NRR is irrelevant.

It is a difficult pitch and there is no point in inducing pressure and giving Canada an opening. It was important for Pakistan to play safe and get points on the board. That is all that matters.
 
No no, I am happy for him. Must be a proud moment for him, his family and his fans to win a MOTM vs Canada after bowling the worst Super Over in history, that too vs the mighty USA.

At least he didn’t chicken out unlike Babar and Rizwan.

The fact that Amir isn’t even the leader of the bowling attack and the captain still went to him shows you how little faith Babar had in the likes of Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf.

Also, the same super over where we couldn’t chase 19 vs USA?

The super over where Babar and Rizwan were sitting on the bench.

The super over where Shadab came in instead of Babar and Rizwan.

The number 1 and number 2 t20 ranked batsmen can’t bat in the super over vs USA, that’s Babar’s legacy as a T20 batsman.
 
At least he didn’t chicken out unlike Babar and Rizwan.

The fact that Amir isn’t even the leader of the bowling attack and the captain still went to him shows you how little faith Babar had in the likes of Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf.

Also, the same super over where we couldn’t chase 19 vs USA?

The super over where Babar and Rizwan were sitting on the bench.

The super over where Shadab came in instead of Babar and Rizwan.

The number 1 and number 2 t20 ranked batsmen can’t bat in the super over vs USA, that’s Babar’s legacy as a T20 batsman.
You can come up with as many excuses, justifications and deflections tactics as you want but it will not change the fact that Amir bowled the worst Super Over in history.
 
Former PCB Chairman Ramiz Raja said on his YouTube channel:

“Babar Azam has played a couple of big shots today, but I think, it was not Mohammad Rizwan’s cup of tea to hit sixes at that moment. I always think that the target should have been completed in these 14 overs, but that partnership was also a redeeming factor, and in the next match where the pitch should be a little better than this, confidence will also come there."
 
@YousafTheBeast

“The fact that Amir isn’t even the leader of the bowling attack and the captain still went to him shows you how little faith Babar had in the likes of Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf.“

Let me show you up on this.

Had Babar asked another bowler to bowl the Super Over and he had conceded plenty of runs and Pakistan would have lost, you would have said the following:

“The fact that Babar didn’t give Amir the Super Over shows that he has a personal agenda against Amir.

Everyone knows that Amir was the best choice for bowling the Super Over, having bowled an excellent 19th over, and we know that Amir always turns up under pressure and in big moments, so he would have bowled a match winning Super Over. Babar once again showed he is a clueless captain…..”

I challenge you to prove me wrong and convince me that you wouldn’t have read from this script.
 
@YousafTheBeast

“The fact that Amir isn’t even the leader of the bowling attack and the captain still went to him shows you how little faith Babar had in the likes of Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf.“

Let me show you up on this.

Had Babar asked another bowler to bowl the Super Over and he had conceded plenty of runs and Pakistan would have lost, you would have said the following:

“The fact that Babar didn’t give Amir the Super Over shows that he has a personal agenda against Amir.

Everyone knows that Amir was the best choice for bowling the Super Over, having bowled an excellent 19th over, and we know that Amir always turns up under pressure and in big moments, so he would have bowled a match winning Super Over. Babar once again showed he is a clueless captain…..”

I challenge you to prove me wrong and convince me that you wouldn’t have read from this script.

I’m not even denying that Amir bowled a bad super over, it’s the fact that his critics aren’t questioning how and why we got to that point, and how we couldn’t get the target. All the blame on one player just because he took back his retirement 🤷🏻‍♂️

Amir’s super over was nothing compared to Babar’s 14 off 25 after 10 overs. Would you agree?
 
I’m not even denying that Amir bowled a bad super over, it’s the fact that his critics aren’t questioning how and why we got to that point, and how we couldn’t get the target. All the blame on one player just because he took back his retirement 🤷🏻‍♂️

Amir’s super over was nothing compared to Babar’s 14 off 25 after 10 overs. Would you agree?
This is drama bazi to epic proportions.

Amir has every right to bash babar on tv and take back retirement.

If pcb had an issue, then they could just not select Amir, they came to Amir and asked him and begged, not the other way around.

Amir bashing babar for being a garbage t20 opener has nothing to do with his bowling.

They are not interlinked. And nor is babar Jesus that people who adore their faith must defend it at all costs.
 
Pakistan still has a good chance of making it to the next round.

Pakistan has to beat Ireland handsomely which is quite possible.

USA has to lose to Ireland(margin does not matter) which is quite possible.
 
I’m not even denying that Amir bowled a bad super over, it’s the fact that his critics aren’t questioning how and why we got to that point, and how we couldn’t get the target. All the blame on one player just because he took back his retirement 🤷🏻‍♂️

Amir’s super over was nothing compared to Babar’s 14 off 25 after 10 overs. Would you agree?
I won’t agree because you have to look at the sequence of events and the timeline.

Pakistan made a lot of mistakes in that game and those mistake pushed Pakistan closer to defeat, but in spite of all those mistakes, it all came down to the Super Over and Amir had the key to Pakistan’s fate.

All he needed to do was live up to his fake reputation of being a big moments player and someone who can handle pressure and deliver a good over but he failed spectacularly.

Amir fans will always look for excuses and find ways to blame other people because they are too ashamed to admit that their hero let Pakistan down with the worst Super Over of all time.

The fact is that just because Babar and Rizwan open doesn’t mean they also need to bat in the Super Over. There are very few openers in the world who will always be the two batsmen to bat in the Super Over.

Secondly, one can argue that Fakhar should have been on strike instead of Iftikhar but the vast majority of batsmen in the world will find it hard to chase down 20 in a Super Over even vs USA.

Even the aggressive and explosive batsman in other team whose feet Pakistani fans like to kiss will feel the heat if they are chasing 20 in a Super Over vs any team because the margin of error is practically none.

Amir will be remembered for the Super Over just like Imad will be remembered for the embarrassing knock vs India. These two were brought back as some saviors and their fans wouldn’t stop talking about their mentality and it all turned out to be a waste of time, with both of playing massive roles in Pakistan’s humiliation at the World Cup.
 
Pakistan still has a good chance of making it to the next round.

Pakistan has to beat Ireland handsomely which is quite possible.

USA has to lose to Ireland(margin does not matter) which is quite possible.
Pakistan vs Ireland washout is even more likely than Pakistan beating Ireland handsomely.

Ireland should beat USA if they bring their A game.
 
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