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India (131/3) secure a convincing 7 wicket victory over Pakistan (127/9) in the high voltage encounter of the Asia Cup 2025

But I was told that Pakistan have selected modern T20 players now who will show Babar and Rizwan how to bat in this format. When will that happen?

by begging Virat Kohli the greatest Asian cricketer When they beg the greatest :cigar
 
India beat the best Pakistan had to offer and are the best T20I team in the world. We didn’t have enough runs on the board & Shaheen was very disappointing with the ball, however, the Asia Cup is not over yet & this side deserve as much time as the prior crop who got a free pass for costing Pakistan multiple trophies over the years, we can’t take 5 steps forward & 20 steps backwards.
 
The whole thing has become so petty it's a damn handshake you guys aren't in the Army, plus it was a boring game barring Abhishek and SSA cameos

Some of these crickters act like they are soldiers. :yk

They are just playing with bat and ball. They are not soldiers. :inti

It is disrespectful toward actual soldiers. LOL.
 
Imagine if the employer tells you that you can't speak against a genocide somewhere, now that employer can be sponsors or cricket boards, don't think many people will go against them.
I don't think many Indian cricketers like the Indian politicians, they want to just play ,make money and enjoy the game.
I don't blame the cricketers for doing as they are told but like I said, it reflects very poorly on them. Many Indian fans have grown accustomed to viewing cricket solely through their own lens, especially with the power and sway India now holds over the game. But cricket has been played for centuries, and like any sport, sportsmanship is one of its implicit tenets, something every player understands and respects deep down. It undermines the essence of cricket as a 'gentleman's game' and sets a very damaging precedent.
 
I never believed that throwing out Babar and Rizwan would change the team into world beaters.

But you throw out people who are not working.

You don't keep them because there isn't anything better.
This isn’t the corporate world. This is a sports team. You have to pick the best available players, it is not rocket science.

If there is nothing better available, you don’t drop them. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

Pakistan and Rizwan walk into the team. They can get out for ducks in 20 consecutive matches but if your replacements are inferior, you cannot drop them. As simple as that.

The day better players than Babar and Rizwan come along, they will announce themselves and won’t be forced down our throats. It will happen organically.

That day has not come yet. If you drop Babar for Sahibzada and Haris for Rizwan, you deserve to be egged in the face.
 
while ignoring the result of the match what is Pakistan's future plans. Persisting with this team for 1 or 2 years and see where they go or continue trying new faces? With 1st option if the team don't get better which is likely to happen they will have wasted substantial amount of time.
 
Back and across game is missing. They are stuck on their feet. Either they plant thei frontfoot and hit occasionally coming down the line. I think Sohaib Malik, Younis were way better than these guys against spin even with lesser gears.

Based on my game watching experience, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Younis Khan, Inzamam, Yousaf, Miandad and co were our best batsmen against spin. To be good against spin you must be able to cut, pull, drive straight down the ground, be able to punch on the off or on side off the back foot and most importantly must be able to sweep the ball and use your feet with relative ease. In the present team i cannot name one batsmen who is naturally comfortable on the sweep shot. You are not going to put any class spinner under threat if you don't have a reliable sweep shot under your armoury.
 
@Rana

Babar Rizwan fans are looking more happy than Indian fans
That's because some people have very limited IQ here. As someone put it, Riz-Bar reside rent-free in their heads.

They think criticising Haris Tulla and Agha / Farhan (limited batsmen) for their weaknesses or deficiencies automatically equates to supporting Rizwan or Babar! No sensible discourse is possible with such folk.
 
Pakistan should feel lucky that Pakistan doesn't get chance to play full series against India. Otherwise would have been white wash embarrassment every time..
 
yup.. I never really thought we will do an Afridi.
Something's are best left unsaid. Maybe he was trying to pacify the people back home who were angry at players for playing this match
 
I don't blame the cricketers for doing as they are told but like I said, it reflects very poorly on them. Many Indian fans have grown accustomed to viewing cricket solely through their own lens, especially with the power and sway India now holds over the game. But cricket has been played for centuries, and like any sport, sportsmanship is one of its implicit tenets, something every player understands and respects deep down. It undermines the essence of cricket as a 'gentleman's game' and sets a very damaging precedent. And then for SKY to do that whole speech in the post-match was pretty cringeworthy.

I dont agree with this cricket being gentlemans game, it aint , it's a competitive commercial game.

On the other hand I dont agree with sportfolks making political statements etc- for that we got politicians... let your cricket do the talking and that is a statement in it self which will hurt and burn more than words.
 
while ignoring the result of the match what is Pakistan's future plans. Persisting with this team for 1 or 2 years and see where they go or continue trying new faces? With 1st option if the team don't get better which is likely to happen they will have wasted substantial amount of time.

The right way to go about is to give the selected players a good run for 2-3 tournaments, series and if they still don't perform, select other players on the bench or domestic circuit. But usually when you give a player that kind of run, they should eventually come good. But no going back to Babar and Rizwan unless they have exhibited consistently in domestic cricket and leagues that they have made a conscious effort to up their strike rates to 150 plus on average.
 
That’s not the point. Everyone knows Pakistan is a weak team and will lose to India 9/10 times. However, the responsibility of any team is to pick its best available players. How hard is that to do?

No person with any brain cells can watch this Pakistan team and come to the conclusion that Babar and Rizwan aren’t good enough to make this team.
You are right but babar and rizwan were comfortable with their mediocre strike rates which every one knew is not enough for top tier teams and hence the team failed continuously..If you don't give youngsters chance how do you come to conclusion that they are not better ? The message needed to be passed strictly and hence they are out of the squad .. They will make a comeback but they should stop playing for stats and should play as a team..
 
I don't blame the cricketers for doing as they are told but like I said, it reflects very poorly on them. Many Indian fans have grown accustomed to viewing cricket solely through their own lens, especially with the power and sway India now holds over the game. But cricket has been played for centuries, and like any sport, sportsmanship is one of its implicit tenets, something every player understands and respects deep down. It undermines the essence of cricket as a 'gentleman's game' and sets a very damaging precedent.
Gentleman's game has been long gone, honestly it was first ripped up by the Aussies, but yeah it seems petty regardless.

There have been instances where players didn't shake hands,Lanka and BD did it recently too and yes its poor.
 
I dont agree with this cricket being gentlemans game, it aint , it's a competitive commercial game.

On the other hand I dont agree with sportfolks making political statements etc- for that we got politicians... let your cricket do the talking and that is a statement in it self which will hurt and burn more than words.
Even if you don't agree with cricket being a "gentleman's game", sportsman spirit is a central tenet of any sport. Not respecting it shows you don't respect the sport.
 
Something's are best left unsaid. Maybe he was trying to pacify the people back home who were angry at players for playing this match
It does seem like that and makes me furious that we don't ask for roads but for this!
 
Even if you don't agree with cricket being a "gentleman's game", sportsman spirit is a central tenet of any sport. Not respecting it shows you don't respect the sport.

India and respect do not go together.

How many Indian PPers are respectful? Only a handful. Most seem very hateful and toxic. :inti

There seems to be a cultural problem. Years of RSS brainwashing is the culprit perhaps.
 
Even if you don't agree with cricket being a "gentleman's game", sportsman spirit is a central tenet of any sport. Not respecting it shows you don't respect the sport.
Sportsman spirit is a bit wishy washy however what I do agree with is what's on the field should be left on the field and no animosity outside it...give it all in the match and then chill. It's a pretty small exclusive circle of elite cricketers why have bad blood etc
 
If this match was not live, Pakistan would have said they won it and celebrated lol.
Nah we aren't Indians, inventing claims with no proof and then changing said claims every 4 weeks with new embellishments and new encounters previously not mentioned.
 
Even if you don't agree with cricket being a "gentleman's game", sportsman spirit is a central tenet of any sport. Not respecting it shows you don't respect the sport.
I think they will definitely shake hands behind the cameras. This is tv circus
 
Sportsman spirit is a bit wishy washy however what I do agree with is what's on the field should be left on the field and no animosity outside it...give it all in the match and then chill. It's a pretty small exclusive circle of elite cricketers why have bad blood etc
As a cricketer how can you say 'we are professionals' in one breath and choose to do something like this in the next? Sets a dangerous precedent because people in high places in Pakistan are very much dictated by 'we have to respond to India' mantra. If Pakistan somehow manage to fluke themselves to a win I'm fairly certain they will try to do something similarly cringe. Which means you've turned cricket into a political battlefield too.
 
I don't think a lot of Indians watched the match maybe Pakistan can still claim victory and Afridi can tak out a victory rally.
 
Based on my game watching experience, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Younis Khan, Inzamam, Yousaf, Miandad and co were our best batsmen against spin. To be good against spin you must be able to cut, pull, drive straight down the ground, be able to punch on the off or on side off the back foot and most importantly must be able to sweep the ball and use your feet with relative ease. In the present team i cannot name one batsmen who is naturally comfortable on the sweep shot. You are not going to put any class spinner under threat if you don't have a reliable sweep shot under your armoury.
See how he uses his feet against the spinners. This was a masterclass by Miandad against Hadlee and co. in 1989

271 in New Zealand

The current set of Pak batsmen not in the same league.
 
The right way to go about is to give the selected players a good run for 2-3 tournaments, series and if they still don't perform, select other players on the bench or domestic circuit. But usually when you give a player that kind of run, they should eventually come good. But no going back to Babar and Rizwan unless they have exhibited consistently in domestic cricket and leagues that they have made a conscious effort to up their strike rates to 150 plus on average.
I am talking about bringing in next set of players to try out. Or they are going to stick their neck out and back these for 2 years. That will be a huge call.
 
I think they will definitely shake hands behind the cameras. This is tv circus
I don't think Indian cricketers would even want to be caught dead next to anything Pakistani. The picture of SKY shaking hands with Naqvi and Salman Agha already generated quite alot of negative buzz online. This seemed like a very calculated stunt to pacify the people back home baying for blood and calling for "boycotts"
 
Tilak is one player that has issue with strike rotation. This is bad.
he's a another mi lobby player... would lick feet of Shreyas Iyer... imagine if this team had Shreyas iyer in place of Tilak... and Jaiswal instead of influencer Gill. Sheer Sa / Aus smacking level team
 
You are right but babar and rizwan were comfortable with their mediocre strike rates which every one knew is not enough for top tier teams and hence the team failed continuously..If you don't give youngsters chance how do you come to conclusion that they are not better ? The message needed to be passed strictly and hence they are out of the squad .. They will make a comeback but they should stop playing for stats and should play as a team..
Because it’s already proved that these so-called youngsters are inferior. They get outperformed by Babar and Rizwan in domestic, so what gives PCB the confidence that they will do better than them in international cricket?

Young players who are better than the ones playing in the national team make their own way organically. That is how Babar and Rizwan cemented their place as well. That is how Fakhar did it.

When you are superior, no one can stop you in your path. It’s the same everywhere.

What Pakistan is doing is forcefully selecting players who are clearly inferior to Babar and Rizwan.

Not a single team in the world except Pakistan would pick Sahibzada and Haris over Babar and Rizwan.
 
Social media optics is important for your own piece of mind. Look what Bumrah went through just for taking 2 test break to manage workload. IPL franchisee rivalry triggered kohli fans to go after Bumrah.
 
Couple of posters here said it will not be a easy chase , why did I say '' perhaps '' in reply :rolleyes:
 
I am talking about bringing in next set of players to try out. Or they are going to stick their neck out and back these for 2 years. That will be a huge call.

This depends on the stability in the PCB, backing the same players or similar players will require Hesson to continue in his role for the duration of his contract i.e. 2 years, PCB to stick with Salman Ali Agha as captain and the same core of T-20 players they are backing for the next T-20 WC atleast. These things will depend on whether Mohsin Naqvi remains PCB chairman going forward, usually when the PCB chairman changes, everything changes in Pakistan Cricket.
 
he's a another mi lobby player... would lick feet of Shreyas Iyer... imagine if this team had Shreyas iyer in place of Tilak... and Jaiswal instead of influencer Gill. Sheer Sa / Aus smacking level team
? Tilak is from Hyderabad, Iyer is from MI lobby
 
Very predictable match. I said India would win handily and that's exactly what happened. Though I don't think it's rocket scienece predicting that. Gulf between these two sides has never looked as much as it does right now. India are fielding arguably their greatest ever T20 side. Pakistan very much in a rebuilding period and don't look like they hold a candle to this Indian XI.
It hasn't reached its true potential for now,maybe they are weighing in few options
Reddy,Parag are another multi skilled guys pure skilled guys,power hitters ,good fielders and have ability to bowl
Parag can bowl leg spin ,off spin both
 
India are the World Champions

So, expecting this team (which is average at best) to beat them would be too much.

The same story is likely to be repeated next Sunday.

Forget India, we can't take our Super4 games against Sri Lanka and Afghanistan (these two will likely qualify from the other group) for granted
 
As a cricketer how can you say 'we are professionals' in one breath and choose to do something like this in the next? Sets a dangerous precedent because people in high places in Pakistan are very much dictated by 'we have to respond to India' mantra. If Pakistan somehow manage to fluke themselves to a win I'm fairly certain they will try to do something similarly cringe. Which means you've turned cricket into a political battlefield too.
That's why I said FFS SKY that was last sentence from you was utter tripe
 
That's why I said FFS SKY that was last sentence from you was utter tripe
I actually wasn't talking about you, when I said 'you'. I was talking about India and more specifically the Indian government. But if you wanna get offended about it, please go right ahead.
 
Let’s see if this Pakistani team have any fight or pride in them. Good test if they can get to final. If not, clearly they aren’t good enough.
 
I actually wasn't talking about you, when I said 'you'. I was talking about India and more specifically the Indian government. But if you wanna get offended about it, please go right ahead.
Not sure we are on the same page here or it's being lost in translation, I am actually agreeing with you that statement was unnecessary, from SKY nothing for me to get offended. I assumed as you were responding to me and wasn't India or Indians in general who are 1.4b odd and can't be classified into one bucket on things political etc
 
Not sure we are on the same page here or it's being lost in translation, I am actually agreeing with you that statement was unnecessary, from SKY nothing for me to get offended. I assumed as you were responding to me and wasn't India or Indians in general who are 1.4b odd and can't be classified into one bucket on things political etc
It's okay, it happens. Things get lost in translation. No harm, no foul.

Yes, I don't think all Indians can be classified as the same. It's really more the Indian government doing this to appease a large subsection of people
 
India defeated Pakistan by seven wickets in the sixth match of the ACC Men’s T20 Asia Cup 2025, held at the Dubai International Cricket Stadium on Sunday evening. This marked Pakistan’s first loss in the eight-team competition, while India maintained their unbeaten record in Group A.

Opting to bat first, Pakistan posted 127 for nine in their 20 overs. Opener Sahibzada Farhan was the top scorer with a steady 40 off 44 deliveries, hitting three sixes and a four. Lower down the order, Shaheen Shah Afridi added valuable runs with an unbeaten 33 off just 16 balls, featuring four massive sixes.

India’s bowling unit delivered a disciplined performance, with Kuldeep Yadav leading the way by claiming three wickets. Axar Patel and Jasprit Bumrah chipped in with two wickets each.

In response, India comfortably chased down the target in 15.5 overs, losing only three wickets. Captain Suryakumar Yadav anchored the innings with an unbeaten 47 off 37 balls, including five boundaries and a six. Abhishek Sharma and Tilak Varma also made notable contributions, scoring 31 runs each.

Saim Ayub was the pick of the bowlers for Pakistan, finishing with figures of 3 for 35.

Pakistan will next take on UAE in their third group match on Wednesday, 17 September.
 
Gentleman's game has been long gone, honestly it was first ripped up by the Aussies, but yeah it seems petty regardless.

There have been instances where players didn't shake hands,Lanka and BD did it recently too and yes its poor.
Pakistanis and Pakistan Cricket Team nees to realise this…. indians are and always be this petty..

The further we keep ourselves from you, the better
 
I dont agree with this cricket being gentlemans game, it aint , it's a competitive commercial game.

On the other hand I dont agree with sportfolks making political statements etc- for that we got politicians... let your cricket do the talking and that is a statement in it self which will hurt and burn more than words.

Cricket started off as a gentlemen's game and it remained a gentlemen's game for a long time. It was always meant to be a gentlemen's game.

It became a ghetto sport once India hijacked ICC. :inti
 
That’s not the point. Everyone knows Pakistan is a weak team and will lose to India 9/10 times. However, the responsibility of any team is to pick its best available players. How hard is that to do?

No person with any brain cells can watch this Pakistan team and come to the conclusion that Babar and Rizwan aren’t good enough to make this team.
I think you are trying to say “responsibility of any team is to pick who Mamoon thinks are Pakistan’s best available players”, which happen to be Rizwan and Babar.
 
Major Blunder As National Anthem Controversy Hits India vs Pakistan Asia Cup Match

here was a major controversy involving the national anthems just before the Asia Cup 2025 match between India and Pakistan in Dubai on Sunday. The organisers mistakenly played a different song instead of the Pakistan national anthem—an incident that left the Pakistan cricketers visibly confused. However, the mistake was quickly corrected, and the correct anthem was played. Earlier, Pakistan captain Salman Ali Agha won the toss and opted to bat. Both India and Pakistan went with unchanged sides for the match. (IND vs PAK Asia Cup Liveblog)


 
I think you are trying to say “responsibility of any team is to pick who Mamoon thinks are Pakistan’s best available players”, which happen to be Rizwan and Babar.
Anyone who thinks the players playing today are better than Babar and Rizwan need to get their heads checked, and they don’t need me to tell them that.
 
Anyone who thinks the players playing today are better than Babar and Rizwan need to get their heads checked, and they don’t need me to tell them that.
They are very good players for Pakistani standards and still have an important role in other formats. They are not the answer to Pakistani T20 top order.
 
You are the only respectful neutral person here without any emotional bias. Appreciate that
The mentally ill troll whose only job is to rant and rave about Indians is non biased? I knew he would latch onto a new issue to spread his vile bile and hatred.

I have seen many trolls on forums and fans hating each other but none with as much hatred and mental illness as this dude. Plus he is also a coward who blocks people from replying.

I really hope good posters from all countries stop encouraging this dude, its not good for his own mental health.
 
They are very good players for Pakistani standards and still have an important role in other formats. They are not the answer to Pakistani T20 top order.
They are a better answer than the ones playing currently. That’s the point.

The current lot haven’t got it. They are just being forced down our throats.

When better players than Babar and Rizwan come along, they will announce themselves organically and they will take their place on merit just like Babar and Rizwan took the places of those before them.

Guys like Farhan and Haris haven’t got the chops to replace Babar and Rizwan. Some day, some players will. However, that day has not come yet.
 
They are a better answer than the ones playing currently. That’s the point.

The current lot haven’t got it. They are just being forced down our throats.

When better players than Babar and Rizwan come along, they will announce themselves organically and they will take their place on merit just like Babar and Rizwan took the places of those before them.

Guys like Farhan and Haris haven’t got the chops to replace Babar and Rizwan. Some day, some players will. However, that day has not come yet.

If playing for places was a competition, Babar and Rizwan would win hands down.

Anyone in Pakistan can do what Babar and Rizwan do in T20. Play at a SR of 90 and 100 till the 14th over and then have a pained expression when Pakistan end with subpar totals.

The problem is that other players are asked to play at 160 SR to prove that they are better than Rizbar while Rizbar would just come back and play the same lackadaisical way and you would be singing eulogies about their greatness.

I feel you are being intellectually dishonest in praising a duo that plays only for itself when the competition invoked for them has to play at a different standard to kick them out.
 
If playing for places was a competition, Babar and Rizwan would win hands down.

Anyone in Pakistan can do what Babar and Rizwan do in T20. Play at a SR of 90 and 100 till the 14th over and then have a pained expression when Pakistan end with subpar totals.

The problem is that other players are asked to play at 160 SR to prove that they are better than Rizbar while Rizbar would just come back and play the same lackadaisical way and you would be singing eulogies about their greatness.

I feel you are being intellectually dishonest in praising a duo that plays only for itself when the competition invoked for them has to play at a different standard to kick them out.
And what have Sahibzada and Haris done? The so called modern players who replaced Babar and Rizwan to play modern cricket?
 
The mentally ill troll whose only job is to rant and rave about Indians is non biased? I knew he would latch onto a new issue to spread his vile bile and hatred.

I have seen many trolls on forums and fans hating each other but none with as much hatred and mental illness as this dude. Plus he is also a coward who blocks people from replying.

I really hope good posters from all countries stop encouraging this dude, its not good for his own mental health.
I didn't mean it lol
 
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