Pakistan (138/5) edge past Sri Lanka (133/8) by 5 wickets in Super Four clash of Asia Cup 2025

[BouncerGuy]

exactly.

Cant be personal against Any player . Its all about Pakistan. I will happily discard Babar or Rizwan as long as we have hope that replacements will do better Job. So Far there has been no evidence of that

Yes... Fakhar has also done nothing so far... who else is left??? No one

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I am not negative. I am speaking truth...I want this team to lift trophies now... We have seen enough

The team has barely been together for a few weeks and is coming together after a series decline in our cricket, where we lost matches to Ireland USA and Zimbabwe.

Isn't it a bit unfair you want trophies now from these guys? Pakistan hasn't won an Asia cup since Aizaz Cheema days.

Have some patience bro.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Yes... Fakhar has also done nothing so far... who else is left??? No one

Fakhar is spent Gun

we can Still Fast Track U 19 Talent into team in years to come. The improvement will not happen overnight. We need process . But since Agha , we are just shooting in Dark hoping it will hit target somehow. Waste of time nothing else

 

[DeadlyVenom]

what we do not like is replacements of Rizwan or Babar that are not upgrade

The thing is we have Babar and Rizwan multiple world cups and Asia cups before discarding them.

But you guys want to discard these guys so soon.

Aghas captaincy is lacking,yes, and I'm not a fan of all these bits and pieces players either. But let's give some more time before reverting back to the old failures. Give the players time to see if they can find form and improve.

Hesson is at least building a big pool of players. For years we had the so called big names playing every match under the sun so no new players could develop. It is easier to build stats thrashing C teams at home than it is playing in Asia cup like these guys are.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

The thing is we have Babar and Rizwan multiple world cups and Asia cups before discarding them.

But you guys want to discard these guys so soon.

Aghas captaincy is lacking,yes, and I'm not a fan of all these bits and pieces players either. But let's give some more time before reverting back to the old failures. Give the players time to see if they can find form and improve.

Hesson is at least building a big pool of players. For years we had the so called big names playing every match under the sun so no new players could develop. It is easier to build stats thrashing C teams at home than it is playing in Asia cup like these guys are.

no thats not true either

Saim has 46 Games under his Name. Thats 50% of Babar and Rizwan and he looks like a tail ender

Khushdil 38 Games

Faheem 66 Games

Harris 33 Games

Unfortunately chances given are more than enough

Do these players need 100 matches to show what they got?

 

[sweep_shot]

no thats not true either

Saim has 46 Games under his Name. Thats 50% of Babar and Rizwan and he looks like a tail ender

Khushdil 38 Games

Faheem 66 Games

Harris 33 Games

Unfortunately chances given are more than enough

Do these players need 100 matches to show what they got?

From this current team, I think Haris, Khushdil, and Agha should be dropped from the T20 team.

Saim should be given a few more chances as he played some good innings. He can bowl too.

 

[Rana]

what we do not like is replacements of Rizwan or Babar that are not upgrade

What’s an upgrade?

Babar and Rizwan open the innings. How is Farhan and Fakhar not an upgrade?

 

[Rana]

If khushdil, salman, talat, haris are the replacements, then I will happily go back to rizbabar... Saim also joining the mediocre gang now

That’s why no one will listen to you.

The team matters

The balance of the side matters

Not your personal likes and dislikes.

 

[BouncerGuy]

That’s why no one will listen to you.

The team matters

The balance of the side matters

Not your personal likes and dislikes.

LOL


Khushdil balances the side??? haris?? Talat??? Salman??? These guys balance the side???

Bro are you sleeping

 

[Rana]

LOL


Khushdil balances the side??? haris?? Talat??? Salman??? These guys balance the side???

Bro are you sleeping

I’ve been awake since your precious Misbah ruined Pakistan cricket…

Babar and Rizwan insist on opening the innings

How are you comparing two failed openers to guys who bat outside of the powerplay?

I think you are the one who needs to wake up!

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

What’s an upgrade?

Babar and Rizwan open the innings. How is Farhan and Fakhar not an upgrade?

Fakhar is not long term option. Saim was our first choice opener. He has failed miserably. Im willing to Bet on Farhan. I have no complaints from him

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

From this current team, I think Haris, Khushdil, and Agha should be dropped from the T20 team.

Saim should be given a few more chances as he played some good innings. He can bowl too.

We do not need bowler in Saim. Thats the thing. we want proper opener who will do the job thats required

 

[DeadlyVenom]

no thats not true either

Saim has 46 Games under his Name. Thats 50% of Babar and Rizwan and he looks like a tail ender

Khushdil 38 Games

Faheem 66 Games

Harris 33 Games

Unfortunately chances given are more than enough

Do these players need 100 matches to show what they got?

Why not 100 matches? If they have potential and you have faith they can come good then back them to the fullest. Look at Babar and Rizwan ICC tournament stats and Asia cup stats vs these players and you will get a clearer picture.

Also, apart from Saim not one of them has had consistent runs they are chopped and changed.

And mainly they are different players to Babar and Rizwan anyway.

Saim is out of form after his injury but can bowl handy overs
Khushdil is a lower order hitter and spinner, plus he is a squad player mainly
Faheem is the only pace all-rounder in the whole of Pakistan.

Why should they make way so we can rejig the squad and bring back two out of touch openers?

Haris is the exception. I don't think he will last long, but honestly what will Rizwan do in the lower order different to what Haris does? I would try Usman Khan over Rizwan if Haris is to be replaced.

We want our board to develop players. Most of the gripes from our fan is PCB messed up player XYZ. Well in Saim we have a great talent, he has gone downhill after his injury, why not try to build him up rather than push him out?

 

[Rana]

Fakhar is not long term option

He will carry Pakistan through to the 2026 world cip

Rizwan or Babar are not even an option let alone long term or short term.

Their cricket is outdated for this level and intensity required.

Nafay
Yasir Khan
Naeem
Harris
Saim
Hassan Nawaz

Plenty of other options to open and utilise the powerplay

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

If khushdil, salman, talat, haris are the replacements, then I will happily go back to rizbabar... Saim also joining the mediocre gang now

I would go one round more when it comes to new players before reverting back to Rizbar at least. My suggestions for the first set of players

Naeem
Samad
Niazi

& possibly

Haider Ali (heard he was acquitted & it was a false alarm but it's a moral question to I've put this at 4th and on the discretion of PCB)

Even if we win Asia cup, Agha will not be my captain in T20. He's not bowling and we don't need an NPC as a captain. I think he's a decent ODI player and T20 captaincy pressure will also effect his game there.

My 11 for the next T20 assignment will be something like

Naeem (he may fail or succeed but T20 isn't that much of a serious cricket anyway)
Saim (He is a good player on good pitches so won't go back to Abdullah etc. just yet)
Haris / Farhan (One of them should be playing, not both & the one playing should keep)
Fakhar (temporary captain. Not as good as he's in 50 overs cricket but he can be a good stop gap option for now)
Hassan (I feel he has potential and must be persisted despite failures)
Samad / Niazi / Hadier?? (One of Samad and Niazi is necessary in the middle. We need power. Haider I've explained above)
Shadab / Nawaz (They both can play if Shadab gets his bowling mojo back.)
Rana / Abbas Afridi (Abbas has potential with the bat. Rana is rana so one of them can play)
Shaheen / Salman (Shaheen has the added ability to hit out but his bowling is erratic. Salman is young at this level)
Wasim / Rauf (Similar bowlers, both can play too if we are playing in Aus/RSA)
Abrar/Faisal Akram/Sufyan (One of them can play)

This team has bowling & batting options. All of Naeem, Saim, Nawaz can bowl a bit of spin with Abrar being the main bowler. If it's a pitch that turns, all of these have the potential to create problems. The pace cover is decent as well with a minimum of 3 pace bowling options & even Shaheen can swing his bat on a good day.

Imo, players like Talat are just not ready to play international cricket. He's not a reliable bowling option even in PSL and his batting is too slow over a long sample size. There's also his issue with pace bowling where he is consistently late against it.

 

[Rana]

Farhan and Fakhar will open for Pakistan

That’s it.

Stop crying!

Babar should have made number 3 his position instead of hiding

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Saim is potentially one of the best players in Pakistan. When you have this level of potential the coaches and structure has to try your very best to get him up to potential.

We need to invest heavily in this lad, it may not work out, not everything in sports does, but throwing him out now would be a catastrophe.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Why not 100 matches? If they have potential and you have faith they can come good then back them to the fullest. Look at Babar and Rizwan ICC tournament stats and Asia cup stats vs these players and you will get a clearer picture.

Also, apart from Saim not one of them has had consistent runs they are chopped and changed.

And mainly they are different players to Babar and Rizwan anyway.

Saim is out of form after his injury but can bowl handy overs
Khushdil is a lower order hitter and spinner, plus he is a squad player mainly
Faheem is the only pace all-rounder in the whole of Pakistan.

Why should they make way so we can rejig the squad and bring back two out of touch openers?

Haris is the exception. I don't think he will last long, but honestly what will Rizwan do in the lower order different to what Haris does? I would try Usman Khan over Rizwan if Haris is to be replaced.

We want our board to develop players. Most of the gripes from our fan is PCB messed up player XYZ. Well in Saim we have a great talent, he has gone downhill after his injury, why not try to build him up rather than push him out?

We do not need overs from Saim. Can we stop with this stupidity so he can Justify himself?

Faheem is only pace all rounder? Really? Come on now
What did Amir Jamal do to get axe or Even Abbas Afridi? Last tour of BD , He made some useful runs and next series he is out. we are not blind

Khushdil has SR of 104 lol after playing 38 games. Does nt matter where he Bats. SR of 104 tell you all you need to know about him. Low on confidence , Only in team for some potential only God knows

Why should we give players 100 Games? are you serious? PCT is not a charity forum

 

[sweep_shot]

We do not need overs from Saim. Can we stop with this stupidity so he can Justify himself?

Faheem is only pace all rounder? Really? Come on now
What did Amir Jamal do to get axe or Even Abbas Afridi? Last tour of BD , He made some useful runs and next series he is out. we are not blind

Khushdil has SR of 104 lol after playing 38 games. Does nt matter where he Bats. SR of 104 tell you all you need to know about him. Low on confidence , Only in team for some potential only God knows

Why should we give players 100 Games? are you serious? PCT is not a charity forum

I feel like Abbas Afridi should be given more chances. He is a good prospect. Very young too.

He can become someone like Abdul Razzaq.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Saim is potentially one of the best players in Pakistan. When you have this level of potential the coaches and structure has to try your very best to get him up to potential.

We need to invest heavily in this lad, it may not work out, not everything in sports does, but throwing him out now would be a catastrophe.

we do not need to baby sit potentially good players. Thats what domestic is meant for. No one is saying discard him completely but RN he should nt be playing Int

 

[DeadlyVenom]

we do not need to baby sit potentially good players. Thats what domestic is meant for. No one is saying discard him completely but RN he should nt be playing Int

Which domestic did Babar and Rizwan excel in to be brought into the team?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Which domestic did Babar and Rizwan excel in to be brought into the team?

so thats the justification? i thought Babar and Rizwan was everything wrong about PCT and you want to bring them up as an example to justify more failures?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

We do not need overs from Saim. Can we stop with this stupidity so he can Justify himself?

Faheem is only pace all rounder? Really? Come on now
What did Amir Jamal do to get axe or Even Abbas Afridi? Last tour of BD , He made some useful runs and next series he is out. we are not blind

Khushdil has SR of 104 lol after playing 38 games. Does nt matter where he Bats. SR of 104 tell you all you need to know about him. Low on confidence , Only in team for some potential only God knows

Why should we give players 100 Games? are you serious? PCT is not a charity forum

Agree Abbas should be in the mix agree with you there. Amir wasn't really a T20 player but I agree he shouldn't have been axed from central contract list.

100 matches is just a saying. Players need to be given a clear run, with clear roles and clear strategy.

I am treating Hesson era as clean slate, forget about the eras before where the middle order was forced to strike at 300 and play only two overs because the team was set up around the two openers. New captain, new coach and new strategy, let's see how players turn out, ok dont give them 100 games but give some time at least before moving on.

And if we move on let's look at the list of names @GoUgandaCranes mentioned.

 

[Rana]

Saim is potentially one of the best players in Pakistan. When you have this level of potential the coaches and structure has to try your very best to get him up to potential.

We need to invest heavily in this lad, it may not work out, not everything in sports does, but throwing him out now would be a catastrophe.

He needs to get his act together

Yes he’s one of the best no doubt but his non seriousness is letting the team down now.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

so thats the justification? i thought Babar and Rizwan was everything wrong about PCT and you want to bring them up as an example to justify more failures?

It is your justification that players who are out of form should play domestic. So Saim should play domestic but these guys should just come in having done nothing in t20 for years?

Babar and Rizwan had a nice run but ended in ignominy. The previous T20 world cup was one of the biggest embarrassment in our history. Why would I want two of the architects of that back anywhere near the side?

They gave up on their own t20 careers by refusing to bat the super over.

Amir and Imad who were also responsible had the decency to retire. But these two and their fans think they have good given right to opener slot for eternity!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He needs to get his act together

Yes he’s one of the best no doubt but his non seriousness is letting the team down now.

There is still time.

This is Pakistan.

You discard him now he's gone forever probably. His overs are being downplayed but his overall utility is still worth its weight in gold, and his batting will hopefully come good too.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

am treating Hesson era as clean slate

he needed to have true clean state

Going back to Faheem , Khushdil is nt starting with clean state

Im all for players given proper run. Criteria Should be Same for everyone. If you are giving few sets of players more chances despite continues failures , Then question arises why not same treatment for others?

why did we discard Irfan Niazi? He is a gun fielder and we did nt see enough of him in batting

Why did we discard Kamran Ghulam from ODIs? just because he failed in few

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

It is your justification that players who are out of form should play domestic. So Saim should play domestic but these guys should just come in having done nothing in t20 for years?

Babar and Rizwan had a nice run but ended in ignominy. The previous T20 world cup was one of the biggest embarrassment in our history. Why would I want two of the architects of that back anywhere near the side?

They gave up on their own t20 careers by refusing to bat the super over.

Amir and Imad who were also responsible had the decency to retire. But these two and their fans think they have good given right to opener slot for eternity!

I never said Babar and Rizwan should come back without Showing any form in PSL or any other league. If Babar is nt willing to change his game and Spot , then he is better kept out.

who is even talking about Amir and Imad?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

he needed to have true clean state

Going back to Faheem , Khushdil is nt starting with clean state

Im all for players given proper run. Criteria Should be Same for everyone. If you are giving few sets of players more chances despite continues failures , Then question arises why not same treatment for others?

why did we discard Irfan Niazi? He is a gun fielder and we did nt see enough of him in batting

Why did we discard Kamran Ghulam from ODIs? just because he failed in few

I am in agreement with you on these two and as mentioned Afridi and Jamaal. Niazi I am a fan of.

I just don't agree that we have to automatically revert back to Babar and Rizwan straight away.

I think over the next few years Hesson will try and build a wide base of players that we can call upon.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

I am in agreement with you on these two and as mentioned Afridi and Jamaal. Niazi I am a fan of.

I just don't agree that we have to automatically revert back to Babar and Rizwan straight away.

I think over the next few years Hesson will try and build a wide base of players that we can call upon.

Problem is not Hesson or his vision

Problem is PCB which is not consistent with its policies.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

They have to fix the lineup in order to get maximum performance from this mediocre lot , make Haris and Sahibzada open , Saim at 3 , Hasan at 4 , Salman at 5 and Fakhar at 6 then Talat, Nawaz and Shaheen and the bowlers , tell the top 4 to slog 80% of the balls irrespective of the result and let Fakhar and Salman ,Talat and Nawaz stabilize the innings in case of collapse and Shaheen to slog in the end, This way we will cross 150 many times even if there is a collapse.

 

[cricfan432]

Babar and rizwan are near retirement, what after them for his fans? Will they find new babar in abdullah shafique or someone like him. Fans mentality is shot, they should support high SR players instead of low SR players, its that simple.

 

[sweep_shot]

Babar and rizwan are near retirement, what after them for his fans? Will they find new babar in abdullah shafique or someone like him. Fans mentality is shot, they should support high SR players instead of low SR players, its that simple.

Don't think Babar is close to retirement. He is 30 years old. He can probably play for 5-6 more years.

Anyway, he should stick to Test and ODI for now.