Pakistan (178/6) defeat West Indies (164/7) by 14 runs in first T20I match to lead the 3-match series 1-0

[shaz619]

Good response from the lads after the narrow criticism they were getting in the last series, they could lose a few more games for all I care, but they are trying to play cricket the way it should be played in the limited forms, when that stops, I will personally invite the wrist slitting billy & chuck supporters.

‘It really don't matter if I lose this fight. It really don't matter if this guy opens my head, either. 'Cause all I wanna do is go the distance. Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, you see, and that bell rings and I'm still standin', I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood.’

 

[shaz619]

Bah gawd Harris with a 600 S/R, @mominsaigol why did he bat so low? I didn’t follow this match, they tried Fakhar at no.3, I still don’t think he should bat there if they play him but they wanted to get him & Farhan in the side, good competition right, who’d have thought there would be talent out there keeping Fakhar of all players on edge, this is the kind of environment you want to create; the sort that, you know, if I don’t fire, x or y can easily step in opposed to; as long as I can crawl to my 50, we going to eat today, aint no chance in hell that anyone else will get a go in my position…..note @Rana

 

[mominsaigol]

Good response from the lads after the narrow criticism they were getting in the last series, they could lose a few more games for all I care, but they are trying to play cricket the way it should be played in the limited forms, when that stops, I will personally invite the wrist slitting billy & chuck supporters.

‘It really don't matter if I lose this fight. It really don't matter if this guy opens my head, either. 'Cause all I wanna do is go the distance. Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, you see, and that bell rings and I'm still standin', I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood.’

They weren't getting any criticism. Just a few PP members attacking @Rana As usual.

Since he's a popular advocate of Pakistani cricket on this forumn but obviously has opposing views towards many, and hence ego battle kicks in.

I don't think actual Pakistani fans would ever be happy that we lost without ba/riz lol. They'd be sad if we lost regardless and happy if we won regardless of whos in the squad and who isnt

 

[shaz619]

They weren't getting any criticism. Just a few PP members attacking @Rana As usual.

Since he's a popular advocate of Pakistani cricket on this forumn but obviously has opposing views towards many, and hence ego battle kicks in.

I don't think actual Pakistani fans would ever be happy that we lost without ba/riz lol. They'd be sad if we lost regardless and happy if we won regardless of whos in the squad and who isnt

It was the usual suspects that want the two idiots back, supporting the team with those two in it would be like spending the nights across the border, this is the real Pakistani team and should be backed through thick & thin, we don’t need players who don’t play for the flag and are known to create a toxic environment

 

[mominsaigol]

It was the usual suspects that want the two idiots back, supporting the team with those two in it would be like spending the nights across the border, this is the real Pakistani team and should be backed through thick & thin, we don’t need players who don’t play for the flag and are known to create a toxic environment

I dont mind supporting Pakistan with Ba/Riz. I'm not a guy who hates for the sake of hating.

Me wanting Ba/Riz out of the t20 team doesn't mean that I hate those 2.

I do mind when Pakistani supporters stop supporting a team juat cause Ba/Riz do not play.

Last time I checked the team was named Pakistan not BakisRizwan

 

[Rana]

They want Billy & Chuck, but we want the Brothers of Destruction

They want torrie and billy Kidman

We want Acolytes protection agency

 

[RidiculousMan]

Hasan Nawaz can ve the Cameron Green of Pakistan if Pakistan actually nutures him.

Idkw Pakistan isnt willing to play t20 cricketers in test cricket and is willing to play test cricketers in t20?

Test cricketers like khawaja can never transition over to t20 or odi but t20 players like green cam become infinitely better. Warner improved 30 fold.

Hasan Nawaz needs to ve given Warner treatment, t20 to odi to test.

This man is a future superstar for Pakistan. That 44 ball 100 was enough to prove that he's the future considering the nightmarish pitch he achieved it on.

Cam Green is a different player. I don't think they're comparable.

 

[mominsaigol]

Cam Green is a different player. I don't think they're comparable.

I disagree. But as you say

 

[ads101]

It was a good win. Obviously unhappy Haris was shunted so far down the order, allrounders shouldn’t play ahead of him, but otherwise pretty good performance.

Saim performing is great and I think that puts an end for it for now. Saim and Farhan are our opening partnership. I don’t think fakhar is great at 3 either, so I think either move him down further and promote Agha to 3, or drop Fakhar entirely.

Born faheem and nawaz can’t play especially when Saim bowls too. I think faheem should eventually be dropped for abbas afridi who shouldn’t have been dropped. I think he was a far more reliable option especially with Rauf being a bit hot and cold. Then maybe one of Nawaz and faheem could play depending on situation. Probably Nawaz most of the time.

 

[RidiculousMan]

It was a good win. Obviously unhappy Haris was shunted so far down the order, allrounders shouldn’t play ahead of him, but otherwise pretty good performance.

Saim performing is great and I think that puts an end for it for now. Saim and Farhan are our opening partnership. I don’t think fakhar is great at 3 either, so I think either move him down further and promote Agha to 3, or drop Fakhar entirely.

Born faheem and nawaz can’t play especially when Saim bowls too. I think faheem should eventually be dropped for abbas afridi who shouldn’t have been dropped. I think he was a far more reliable option especially with Rauf being a bit hot and cold. Then maybe one of Nawaz and faheem could play depending on situation. Probably Nawaz most of the time.

I'm expecting Heyson to incorporate one of Shadab or Nawaz in middle order. Faheem eventually will get dropped but right now the coach sees him as someone that can give batting depth.

 

[Rana]

Cam Green is a different player. I don't think they're comparable.

I disagree. But as you say

From what I’ve seen of Cam Green over the years…

In full flow and in apex batting mode he’s from the same school of brute as Andrew Symonds. Australia had an underrated monster bat called Cameron White as well…they are a monster breed of tall bludgeoners and very hard to bowl to when they are on it to take you down.

Nawaz atm has shown a will to take down spin and that too standing in his crease….against Pace and especially against the back/shorter lengths he needs a lot of work

 

[shamaan]

Bah gawd Harris with a 600 S/R, @mominsaigol why did he bat so low? I didn’t follow this match, they tried Fakhar at no.3, I still don’t think he should bat there if they play him but they wanted to get him & Farhan in the side, good competition right, who’d have thought there would be talent out there keeping Fakhar of all players on edge, this is the kind of environment you want to create; the sort that, you know, if I don’t fire, x or y can easily step in opposed to; as long as I can crawl to my 50, we going to eat today, aint no chance in hell that anyone else will get a go in my position…..note @Rana

Fakhar should bat at 3 he can guide the youngsters and play a mature Innings.