Pakistan (198/5) thrash Australia (108) by 90 runs in second T20I to seal 2-0 series win

[Nikhil_cric]

The debate around actions is silly.

They should have technology like they have in BBL that shows the bend in the elbow every ball. If anyone exceeds that, they should just call it a no-ball there and then at the spot.

The pause in the action is a non-issue. It's not that he pauses before some deliveries while for others he doesn't. His pause is a constant part of his bowling.

Disagree about the pausing bit. What does it matter whether the pausing is occasional or regular?

It is not written anywhere that you need to bowl with the same action for every ball.

ICC has to either allow all pausing or completely disallow it.

So far, they have allowed it to be a grey area and they have dealt with it on a case by case basis.

But that's not fair imo.

 

[Hyder]

The debate around actions is silly.

They should have technology like they have in BBL that shows the bend in the elbow every ball. If anyone exceeds that, they should just call it a no-ball there and then at the spot.

The pause in the action is a non-issue. It's not that he pauses before some deliveries while for others he doesn't. His pause is a constant part of his bowling.

Bending of arm is not an issue. Straightening is. And his action has been cleared twice.

 

[sweep_shot]

And his action has been cleared twice.

That's all matters.

He has been tested and cleared unlike chucker Bumrah.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There have been many bowlers with annoying actions. They were allowed to continue. Guys like Paul Adams, Malinga, Pathirana, Kedhar Jadav etc.

Banning Usman for this would be farcical.

It's less his actions but this pause could be deemed distracting for international players who are in the zone as soon as bowler run up begins.
Can you imagine him bowling to a fidgety batsman like Steve Smith?

If ICC has cleared him then it's the batsman's issue to deal with but I can understand why they may be frustrated.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Call it a B team or whatever, but this was some seriously good performance by the Pakistan team

 

[Ball Blazer]

Salman Ali Agha, Pakistan Captain & Player of the Match:

It has to be a perfect game. We batted well in the powerplay and middle and we were outstanding with the ball. Fielding was outstanding. I can easily say it was a perfect game for us and we want to replicate it tomorrow. That's why I promoted myself at No. 3 because I know I can play spin well and intend to do the same in Sri Lanka. (On Usman Khan's knock) We know he is a very good player of spin bowling, probably the best player in our team against spin. We knew his ability and we know it's going to come soon. Hope he plays in the same way. We want to continue to play in the same way and I want the same from my team.... to forget the 2-0 and come again (play in the same fashion). Hopefully we can come and entertain the Lahore crowd again tomorrow.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Disagree about the pausing bit. What does it matter whether the pausing is occasional or regular?

It is not written anywhere that you need to bowl with the same action for every ball.

ICC has to either allow all pausing or completely disallow it.

So far, they have allowed it to be a grey area and they have dealt with it on a case by case basis.

But that's not fair imo.

Yeah agreed.

They have cleared his action which probably shouldn't have been tested coz it's clean as a whistle but have been kinda silent on the pause.

I suspect we may see a rule change
/Update soon.

I'm all for it, adds a bit of mystery despite being annoying, but it's an issue that needs to be settled quickly to stop batsmen calling him out mid game.

 

[Devadwal]

Call it a B team or whatever, but this was some seriously good performance by the Pakistan team

Yes , much improved performance .......looks like they are playing as a team

 

[CricVet]

If BICC has cleared the action, then I guess only “privileged whining” kinds have the right to protest while batting. The rest will have to shut up or face fines.

 

[Ball Blazer]

It was their biggest T20I win over Australia

 

[sweep_shot]

It's less his actions but this pause could be deemed distracting for international players who are in the zone as soon as bowler run up begins.
Can you imagine him bowling to a fidgety batsman like Steve Smith?

If ICC has cleared him then it's the batsman's issue to deal with but I can understand why they may be frustrated.

Batters being distracted is not a valid reason to prevent a bowler from bowling.

There are many batters with distracting batting stances too (Chanderpaul, Fawad Alam, Steven Smith etc.).

I hope Usman will not be banned because he adds to the variety.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Full match highlights:

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

No if the pitches are low and turning they won't be able to do anything especially against quality attack.

I think their Super 8 matches will probably be in India

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Yeah agreed.

They have cleared his action which probably shouldn't have been tested coz it's clean as a whistle but have been kinda silent on the pause.

I suspect we may see a rule change
/Update soon.

I'm all for it, adds a bit of mystery despite being annoying, but it's an issue that needs to be settled quickly to stop batsmen calling him out mid game.

Yeah, his action was never in doubt. I pointed out in his thread even before he went for testing that his action was clean

It was always about that pause. ICC have warned bowlers in the past about pausing.

It would look very bad if they randomly start allowing some bowlers to pause now.

They should clarify it once and for all

 

[Devadwal]

I think their Super 8 matches will probably be in India

Australia is only play league game in Lanka, rest will be in India.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think their Super 8 matches will probably be in India

Pakistani games are all in Sri Lanka. Group stage or knockout.

That has been the arrangement.

If Pakistan reach final, final is in Sri Lanka.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistani games are all in Sri Lanka. Group stage or knockout.

That has been the arrangement.

If Pakistan reach final, final is in Sri Lanka.

I was talking about Australia, not Pakistan

 

[sweep_shot]

I was talking about Australia, not Pakistan

I see.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Yeah, his action was never in doubt. I pointed out in his thread even before he went for testing that his action was clean

It was always about that pause. ICC have warned bowlers in the past about pausing.

It would look very bad if they randomly start allowing some bowlers to pause now.

They should clarify it once and for all

From what I understand the pause rule is that you can't do it randomly when you feel like it. In his case he has the same pause with every delivery he bowls so you could argue that it's a part of his action

 

[Nikhil_cric]

From what I understand the pause rule is that you can't do it randomly when you feel like it. In his case he has the same pause with every delivery he bowls so you could argue that it's a part of his action

Yeah I know. I just don't think that's a good rule. Bowlers change their actions within a match . Heck they are even allowed to bowl with different arms within an over.

I don't think pausing should be an exception .

For me it's one of those things that either should be completely allowed so that bowlers can choose to pause whenever they want or completely banned.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Yeah I know. I just don't think that's a good rule. Bowlers change their actions within a match . Heck they are even allowed to bowl with different arms within an over.

I don't think pausing should be an exception .

For me it's one of those things that either should be completely allowed so that bowlers can choose to pause whenever they want or completely banned.

Just my 2 cents.

Fair enough

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Faheem Ashraf has a free pass in this team

Imagine hiring a guy for handsome salary and tell him you are not needed unless i do not show up to work. In Modern Cricket , thats a free pass unheard of

 

[Rana]

ZIMBABAR another matchwinning knock

Literally was,

Had he played longer im sure Pakistan wasn’t crossing 160

 

[Slim]

Missed the match unfortunately but love the performance. AGHA JANIII!!!




and this picture from wisden looks beautiful, Abrar got that swag

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I just hope PCT delivers when it actually matters.... Otherwise Aussies have been dominating them in ICC events for long

 

[jnaveen1980]

wow 19 overs of spin. They can add NaumanAli too. Australia will struggle even more.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

 

[Slim]

9 down now.

Abrar was sledging the batter. LOL.

I love Abrar, such a delightful character. You know he is steaming in with full confidence when he bowls. Proper type A kinda guy. Alpha energy.

 

[topspin]

I love Abrar, such a delightful character. You know he is steaming in with full confidence when he bowls. Proper type A kinda guy. Alpha energy.

What about this Alpha energy from Babar?

 

[Rana]

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[Flat_Track_Bully]

Pakistan is looking very good despite passengers.

We could see in the Asia Cup there was something happening with this team. I still think we're not there yet but when some of the U19 boys mature we will be back.