Pakistan advance to the Super 4 Stage after Group A game against India ends in a "No Result"

[Devadwal]

Lol relax. We have had enough answers already. Guy is a dud vs swing and Shaheen made him look like a toddler like he has before.

Then checked Rohit Sharma odi record vs Pakistan. He was scored 140 when we faced last time .

 

[Marooned]

Have you seen Rohit batting just before rain ? He was facing shaheen with ease and very well negotiated his first spell

Lol. Were you born yesterday or something? Rohit is worse than a tailender vs left arm swing. There's ample evidence now. It's not up for debate.

 

[Marooned]

Then checked Rohit Sharma odi record vs Pakistan. He was scored 140 when we faced last time .

And made 5 runs vs Amir.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Have you seen Rohit batting just before rain ? He was facing shaheen with ease and very well negotiated his first spell

2 overs dnt constitute a spell. only played flick shot to leg side over pitched ball. Bumrah smashed Naseem through extra cover was better shot than that. come on now..you are just arguing for sake of it

 

[Devadwal]

Lol. Were you born yesterday or something? Rohit is worse than a tailender vs left arm swing. There's ample evidence now. It's not up for debate.

Amir and wahab Riaz are left arm fast bowlers and he scored 2 100 against them .try next time

 

[Devadwal]

And made 5 runs vs Amir.

How can you forget 140 on a supportive wicket with overcast conditions

 

[Marooned]

Amir and wahab Riaz are left arm fast bowlers and he scored 2 100 against them .try next time

And he didn't score even 10 runs vs Amir in that very game. Come again. He barely put bat to ball vs Amir even in that innings.

 

[Devadwal]

And he didn't score even 10 runs vs Amir in that very game. Come again.

Then you first watch those innings

 

[CricVet]

People thought India's middle order is the problem when ironically its the Top order.

Sheryas iyer, Ishan Kishan, Rahul and Pandya make up a solid middle order.

Their issue is the Top order, Gill seems to have completly forgotten how to bat against pace as shown in the West indies series and today, he seems to have suffered from the fakhar zaman effect after a couple of killer performances, he was virtually a tail ender today.

Rohit is useless, can't play swing for the life of him, he's regressed to only being able to play over pitched deliveries on leg and offside. He can't play anything else. Lost his form since 2019. And kholi while good seems aged now a shadow of his former self.

The only issue is jadeja and the tail enders. The tail besides bumrah can't bat at all, like tail enders should atleast learn how to slog, Indians tail can't even do that. And jadeja is the most useless no 7.

This should be india's team.

1) gill( He'll regain form, I'm sure)
2) Ishan Kishan ( Must open for india)
3) Kholi
4) Sheryas Iyer
5) KL Rahul
6) Pandya
7) Surya ( playing at no 7 shpuld be t20 style batting, odi ain't his thing but it's better to have an impact player then jadeja who scores useless runs)
The bowling is fine as is, can't do anything about a tail that can't bat, maybe promote bumrah to no 8 though.

Sorry if my replies cannot be this long (busy with kids as well).

If you see Ind batsmen, except Kohli, the rest of the top order was facing fast bowling as if they have been haunted - stuck in the crease; half cock forward. We all know that Rahul is a walking wicket against a left arm seamer brining the ball in - I have forgot how many times Amir has done him in. My real surprise was the over defensive/wishy washy approach of the rest. It was a pleasure to see Pak fast bowlers setting up such a fear in the back of batsmen head. If Babar takes his captaincy to the next level, we have a solid chance of winning the WC with a correct set of players.

 

[Devadwal]

Rohit vs Amir in 2018 - 21 balls 20 runs
Rohit vs amir in 2019 - 5 runs in 8 balls
Rohit and amir faced 4 times each other in odi and amir just once dismissed him

 

[Marooned]

Then you first watch those innings

Yeah you aren't getting my point. Even in that 100, he didn't score even 10 runs off Amir's bowling.

 

[Marooned]

Rohit vs Amir in 2018 - 21 balls 20 runs
Rohit vs amir in 2019 - 5 runs in 8 balls
Rohit and amir faced 4 times each other in odi and amir just once dismissed him

Good. Now you understand, even when he made 140, he scored just 5 off Amir. Lol. Because he was too scared of getting out to him.

 

[Devadwal]

Yeah you aren't getting my point. Even in that 100, he didn't score even 10 runs off Amir's bowling.

Check above stats .thanks

 

[Marooned]

Check above stats .thanks

Checked thanks. He barely scored any runs cs Amir.

 

[Devadwal]

Good. Now you understand, even when he made 140, he scored just 8 off Amir. Lol. Because he was too scared of getting out to him.

Oh bhai when He was not faced more than 8 balls than how can he scored?? He faced mor than 20 balls in 2018 and he score 20 runs .

 

[Marooned]

Oh bhai when He was not faced more than 8 balls than how can he scored?? He faced mor than 20 balls in 2018 and he score 20 runs .

He didn't face because he was scared to take strike. Exposed rahul instead. Watch that game. You will know.

 

[Marooned]

Oh bhai when He was not faced more than 8 balls than how can he scored?? He faced mor than 20 balls in 2018 and he score 20 runs .

Ya so don't say he smashed 140 vs amir when he didn't even make 1% of his runs against him.

 

[Devadwal]

He didn't face because he was scared to take strike. Exposed rahul instead. Watch that game. You will know.

Yes good jokes next please .

 

[Marooned]

Yes good jokes next please .

You believe what you want. I would love it if India is filled with 11 rohits.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

whole world knows Rohit is weak against Left arm bowlers when its swinging..its important word..swinging.. 2018 match dnt count in that..dubai picth..easy target..in form..made 20 0ff 20 balls proves nothing.. when it swung...Amir got him in 2016 and 2017..Shaheen got him in 2021 and today as well..hell even Muhammad Junaid got him in 2012..why are you arguing otherwise?

Oh bhai when He was not faced more than 8 balls than how can he scored?? He faced mor than 20 balls in 2018 and he score 20 r

 

[Devadwal]

Ya so don't say he smashed 140 vs amir when he didn't even make 1% of his runs against him.

Its was against Amir hasan and Wahab collectively and btw he was not faced more balls becouse your caption was scared and Amir 5 over was left but not bowled untill rohit was in crease

 

[Devadwal]

whole world knows Rohit is weak against Left arm bowlers when its swinging..its important word..swinging.. 2018 match dnt count in that..dubai picth..easy target..in form..made 20 0ff 20 balls proves nothing.. when it swung...Amir got him in 2016 and 2017..Shaheen got him in 2021 and today as well..hell even Muhammad Junaid got him in 2012..why are you arguing otherwise?

If those were road then how Pakistan were bundled out under 170?? 2nd if there is Swing offer all opening batsman around the world can't score much runs so its not just about Rohit

 

[Fenrir]

Pakistan should have gone with Wasim instead of Nawaz.Shadab and Nawaz were expensive and took no wickets.Indians are good players of spin bowling.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

If those were road then how Pakistan were bundled out under 170?? 2nd if there is Swing offer all opening batsman around the world can't score much runs so its not just about Rohit

rohit was in form of his life during cwc 2019.. he got out to boult again in semis when it started moving. Right handers swing the ball too you know but he gets out to quality left armers . and weakness have been found out on consistent basis. there is ample evidence. dnt look away.. . Shaheen set him up ...rain had to do nothing with that.. first three balls went away beating his edge..then it came back in .. every one recognised the setup on tv and other platforms commentating .you are having hard time admitting it

 

[Devadwal]

rohit was in form of his life during cwc 2019.. he got out to boult again in semis when it started moving. Right handers swing the ball too you know but he gets out to quality left armers . and weakness have been found out on consistent basis. there is ample evidence. dnt look away.. . Shaheen set him up ...rain had to do nothing with that.. first three balls went away beating his edge..then it came back in .. every one recognised the setup on tv and other platforms commentating .you are having hard time admitting it

He has problem against Left arm fast bowlers which is every one know same for Kohli but still they have negotiated and scored runs all around the world .

 

[Marooned]

Now it's about English then please first checked your caption English. Thanks

Can someone translate this for me?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

He has problem against Left arm fast bowlers which is every one know same for Kohli but still they have negotiated and scored runs all around the world .

it is easier than ever to get rohit out with left handers nowadays. he is lazy now..old age and slow reflexes.. time to retire after cwc

 

[Devadwal]

it is easier than ever to get rohit out with left handers nowadays. he is lazy now..old age and slow reflexes.. time to retire after cwc

This World cup is last for not only rohit but also for virat .both are great servent for india but time to hang the boots

 

[mominsaigol]

Have you seen Rohit batting just before rain ? He was facing shaheen with ease and very well negotiated his first spell

Because shaheen was over pitching to his leg side. Since 2019 rohit can't play swing for the life of him. He can only hit over pitched deliveries on the off and leg.

Shaheen has literally bowled or lbw rohit with the exact same delivery today, in 2022 world cup t20, in 2021 world cup t20 as well as 2x in the Asia cup.

Exact same delivery, same results, either bowled or LBW.

Amir did it 3x with the exact same inswing delivery as well in the past.

Rohit was always a dud against swing, something Dale steyn exposed him for a long time ago despite making a 200.

The reason rohit was good as a batsmen prior to 2020 is because he was an excellent timer of the ball and had a solid defence so he could wait for the ball to get old and dominate in middle overs. But rohit recently has lost the plot.

He can't play swing, his defence is completly gone due to zero footwork nowadays, he gets stuck against spin due to lack of footwork, short pitched deliveries trouble him, and his timing is now completly gone besides hitting overpitched and leg side deliveries. He's also lost his single making ability.

He didn't have this many issues before. Rohit is pretty much done now, no shame in it, he should respectfully retire. The dude is already an ATG, and was a fearsome Opener in his prime. It'll be hard to replace him, but current rohit is just not their anymore.

 

[King_Babar]

Pakistan saved by rain other wise under 200 all out was on the cards

It's actually India who turn out to be lucky, imagine going into WC after loosing from Pakistan.

 

[King_Babar]

And his record in middle over is great .

The person who selected Shardul Thakur vs Pakistan should be high on something unique. It was going to be his nightmare just like some random spinner Chakravarthy and Axar. Again be thankful to rain.

 

[MenInG]

Highlights of the India Innings

 

[Fenrir]

Pakistan’s fielding was very poor.India were 66-4 but poor spin bowling allowed India to post a competitive total.Spinners gave away 131 runs and took no wickets.Seamers gave away 135 runs and took all ten wickets.I think this is a record seamers have not taken all ten wickets before in Asia cup.

 

[Farah Sohail]

After quiet some time, Babar was again pathetic in his on field field captaincy today.Horrible horrible captaincy today... After we had India by the neck, he let Pandya and Ishan settle and build a partnership by feeding them continuously with spin, and not bringing Naseem or Haris Rauf earlier from one end…
Also, among the spinners, Salman Ali Agha was bowling much better than other spinners.. he was bowling tight.. why did the hell, he take off Salman Ali Agha and let Shadab continue, while Shadab and Nawaz both were being hammered? Also he miscalculated one over of fast bowlers in the end..otherwise there was no reason to bring Shadab again in 41st over..
I want Mickey Arthur to give good thrashing to Babar Azam for his horrible captaincy today

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

As an indian, i think our takeaways were good. We got tested against a good bowling attack on a stop start deck, the rain delays did no favours to us nothwithstanding SSA's delivery to Rohit was abosolute diamond, but the way VK, Gill got out-not gonna happen every time-not to those type of deliveries neither is shreyas gonna bung it to the nearest fielder in the way he did, not lot of times we will be 60/4. heartening is to get to 260 on this surface after the start we had. We've come in off the cold -no real competive cricket for a while against a red hot pak side seasoned in these conditions having won a tough series against afg.
I forsee our top improving from here and will be putting up a better display from here on.
a pity rain washed this game out else it had potential to be exciting.
But kudos to pak pace bowling, it was outstanding!

 

[mominsaigol]

As an indian, i think our takeaways were good. We got tested against a good bowling attack on a stop start deck, the rain delays did no favours to us nothwithstanding SSA's delivery to Rohit was abosolute diamond, but the way VK, Gill got out-not gonna happen every time-not to those type of deliveries neither is shreyas gonna bung it to the nearest fielder in the way he did, not lot of times we will be 60/4. heartening is to get to 260 on this surface after the start we had. We've come in off the cold -no real competive cricket for a while against a red hot pak side seasoned in these conditions having won a tough series against afg.
I forsee our top improving from here and will be putting up a better display from here on.
a pity rain washed this game out else it had potential to be exciting.
But kudos to pak pace bowling, it was outstanding!

I kind of disagree, no disrespect to the Indian team ofcourse, their one strong team, but I feel both pakistan and Indian team are being overrated. I've already spoken in great depths about pakistan but after following Indian team for a while I've noticed

A) Rohit always gets bowled or lbw to swing

B) Gill has looked out of touch since the West indies series, his innings yesterday, 10 of 31 was horrible.

C) sheryas iyer has problems with the short ball in general, same with imam from pakistan.

D) Jadeja is a useless no 7

E) India's Tail is horrible besides bumrah who can slog a bit, the rest are walking wickets whereas pakistan tail can slog and hit a few and add extra 25 to 30 runs.

However India has a killer pace attack and their middle order is more settled whereas pak top order is more settled.

If it were up to me, I'd have ishan open with rohit and Gill being rotated depending on form, but we know that won't happen due to rohit being Captain. KL Rahul then slots in at 5.

A middle order consisting of Rahul, Sheryas, pandya and virat and ishan at the top makes for a world class batting line up.

Ik sky has problems, but he is no 1 in t20, and I feel no 7 is perfect for him. He can't do worse then jadeja, India can afford to discard one extra spinner and go with a 4 + 1 pace and spin attack.

 

[Major]

Good. Now you understand, even when he made 140, he scored just 5 off Amir. Lol. Because he was too scared of getting out to him.

Bro amir was in consistent and a nothing bowler. Stop hyping him up.

Yes he got the better of rohit in one or two games, but same rohit has hit runs.


Atleast shaheen dominates rohit

 

[Srinath_cricket]

I think 266 was a very very decent total for 'yesterday's' pitch and overcast conditions. I don't go by historical records. This pitch had bit of variable bounce too. That's why the Around the wicket tactics to target the stumps by Shaheen during few middle overs.

Yes, batting was getting better as time went by. But, a good bowler like Shaheen was still able to extract some movement off the pitch even at 45-46 overs which tells a lot about the surface.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Lucky escape for Pakistan. Rain saved them from certain embarrassment.

 

[MenInG]

Lucky escape for Pakistan. Rain saved them from certain embarrassment.

How so?

 

[MenInG]

India's World Cup hero Gautam Gambhir was not happy with the batting order at all. He indicated that India's seniors should bat at 'tough positions.'

"The kind of form that Ishan Kishan is in, he scored half-century while opening in West Indies. The senior players should bat in the tough positions. Not any youngster. If someone is to bat at No.4, it should've been Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma. The seniors should take up the difficult job. You should give a youngster his natural position to excel." Gautam Gambhir said during commentary on Saturday.

 

[WicketLord]

"Looked Subdued, Uncertain": Sunil Gavaskar Critical Of India's Superstar Batter.

India's top-order of Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill and Virat Kohli disappointed in the Asia Cup opener against Pakistan.

The Indian top order witnessed a bitter collapse in the opening Asia Cup 2023 game against Pakistan, with the top three of Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, and Shubman Gill departing without contributing much with the bat. Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, and Naseem Shah did quite well with the ball until the pairing of Ishan Kishan and Hadik Pandya stabilised the Indian ship. Speaking of India's top-order collapse, iconic batter Sunil Gavaskar said that while Rohit and Virat got out to good deliveries, Shubman didn't look like himself in the game.

"Both the batters (Rohit and Virat) could've used their feet a bit better. Rohit Sharma had a big gap between his bat and pad. Shreyas Iyer was a bit unlucky. That was a cracking hook shot but it went straight to the fielder. If the fielder could've been 5 meters left or right, it would've been a boundary. Shubman Gill, for some strange reason, looked very subdued. Didn't look as if he was playing his natural game, seemed to be in some of uncertainty around him. That's why he didn't open his account for a long time and hardly looked the Shubman Gill that we know," Gavaskar said on India Today.

While the trio of Rohit, Virat and Shubman were disappointing, Gavaskar was full of praise for Ishan and Hardik for the manner in which they handled the pressure and took India out of a troublesome position.

"Yes, I think what he showed was that an opening batter can bat anywhere down the order. It's not easy the other way around, where a middle-order batter can come in and open the batting. It's not easy, but an opening batter can be accommodated anywhere down the order, and he brings a left-handed dimension to the Indian batting line. If you could look at the top four, they're all right and then the left-hander comes in, so it makes it a little bit difficult for the bowlers.

"Plus, he's got this great ability to accelerate. He looks very, very small, but he packs a punch. He hit a couple of big sixes and the way he batted really was impressive because generally he likes to get after the bowling. But he was watchful when it was needed, recognized, realised what the situation was," Gavaskar said.

Hardik emerged as India's top-scoring batter in the match, registering an 87-run knock in 90 balls as the Indian team put a respectable score of 266 runs on the board.

"There was, of course, Hardik Pandya at the other end who captained the Gujarat Titans. So he knows exactly you know what situation, how to adjust his game and he was guiding him. So that was a very, very good partnership. Without that partnership, India would have 175 or 200," said Gavaskar.

"If You Look At Top 4...": Sunil Gavaskar's Intriguing Take On Indian Batters After Pakistan Clash | Cricket News

India's top-order of Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill and Virat Kohli disappointed in the Asia Cup opener against Pakistan.

sports.ndtv.com

 

[WicketLord]

In Pak vs India match the real battle has always been between India batting and pakistani bowling.

Both did not disappoint, its just that the rains played a wrong part in it.

 

[Srinath_cricket]

"Looked Subdued, Uncertain": Sunil Gavaskar Critical Of India's Superstar Batter.

India's top-order of Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill and Virat Kohli disappointed in the Asia Cup opener against Pakistan.

The Indian top order witnessed a bitter collapse in the opening Asia Cup 2023 game against Pakistan, with the top three of Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, and Shubman Gill departing without contributing much with the bat. Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, and Naseem Shah did quite well with the ball until the pairing of Ishan Kishan and Hadik Pandya stabilised the Indian ship. Speaking of India's top-order collapse, iconic batter Sunil Gavaskar said that while Rohit and Virat got out to good deliveries, Shubman didn't look like himself in the game.

"Both the batters (Rohit and Virat) could've used their feet a bit better. Rohit Sharma had a big gap between his bat and pad. Shreyas Iyer was a bit unlucky. That was a cracking hook shot but it went straight to the fielder. If the fielder could've been 5 meters left or right, it would've been a boundary. Shubman Gill, for some strange reason, looked very subdued. Didn't look as if he was playing his natural game, seemed to be in some of uncertainty around him. That's why he didn't open his account for a long time and hardly looked the Shubman Gill that we know," Gavaskar said on India Today.

While the trio of Rohit, Virat and Shubman were disappointing, Gavaskar was full of praise for Ishan and Hardik for the manner in which they handled the pressure and took India out of a troublesome position.

"Yes, I think what he showed was that an opening batter can bat anywhere down the order. It's not easy the other way around, where a middle-order batter can come in and open the batting. It's not easy, but an opening batter can be accommodated anywhere down the order, and he brings a left-handed dimension to the Indian batting line. If you could look at the top four, they're all right and then the left-hander comes in, so it makes it a little bit difficult for the bowlers.

"Plus, he's got this great ability to accelerate. He looks very, very small, but he packs a punch. He hit a couple of big sixes and the way he batted really was impressive because generally he likes to get after the bowling. But he was watchful when it was needed, recognized, realised what the situation was," Gavaskar said.

Hardik emerged as India's top-scoring batter in the match, registering an 87-run knock in 90 balls as the Indian team put a respectable score of 266 runs on the board.

"There was, of course, Hardik Pandya at the other end who captained the Gujarat Titans. So he knows exactly you know what situation, how to adjust his game and he was guiding him. So that was a very, very good partnership. Without that partnership, India would have 175 or 200," said Gavaskar.

"If You Look At Top 4...": Sunil Gavaskar's Intriguing Take On Indian Batters After Pakistan Clash | Cricket News

India's top-order of Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill and Virat Kohli disappointed in the Asia Cup opener against Pakistan.

sports.ndtv.com

If I'm being very honest, Rohit is well past his prime. Jaiswal should have been groomed and be playing in his place. It'd also provide Ind with a Left handed opener at top. But again this is subcontinent cricket right?

 

[Major]

Lucky escape for Pakistan. Rain saved them from certain embarrassment.

atleast live up to ur username

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Performances in such contests show us which player has the temperament for big contests.

Kishan has made himself the front-runner for the WK spot if KL Rahul isn't fit. IMO, even if KLR is fit having an LHB in the middle order is very important. Hope he has a great Asia Cup and makes himself un-droppable.

 

[abughio]

Pak is need abrar..
Plus, I dont know.. but nawaz has lost all his confidence

 

[Farah Sohail]

Which team is Pak likely to face in super 4 stage?

 

[The_Real_Deal]

Lucky escape for Pakistan. Rain saved them from certain embarrassment.

Please elaborate “unbiased” fan?

 

[The_Real_Deal]

Which team is Pak likely to face in super 4 stage?

Runner up of Group B - most likely Bangladesh

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

What a perfect result.


Now and forever tens of millions, no hundreds of millions, perhaps even a billion plus fans on either side are forever going to go - pel diya tha beta, kismet thi tum bach gaye lol

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro amir was in consistent and a nothing bowler. Stop hyping him up.

Yes he got the better of rohit in one or two games, but same rohit has hit runs.


Atleast shaheen dominates rohit

Amir wasn't a nothing bowler, he won us the champions trophy. He regressed straight after that and his ego just wasn't good for international cricket.

Is he better then our current 3? Nope, but rohit can't play inswing. And shaheen can consistently bowl it whereas amir can't.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

I kind of disagree, no disrespect to the Indian team ofcourse, their one strong team, but I feel both pakistan and Indian team are being overrated. I've already spoken in great depths about pakistan but after following Indian team for a while I've noticed

A) Rohit always gets bowled or lbw to swing

B) Gill has looked out of touch since the West indies series, his innings yesterday, 10 of 31 was horrible.

C) sheryas iyer has problems with the short ball in general, same with imam from pakistan.

D) Jadeja is a useless no 7

E) India's Tail is horrible besides bumrah who can slog a bit, the rest are walking wickets whereas pakistan tail can slog and hit a few and add extra 25 to 30 runs.

However India has a killer pace attack and their middle order is more settled whereas pak top order is more settled.

If it were up to me, I'd have ishan open with rohit and Gill being rotated depending on form, but we know that won't happen due to rohit being Captain. KL Rahul then slots in at 5.

A middle order consisting of Rahul, Sheryas, pandya and virat and ishan at the top makes for a world class batting line up.

Ik sky has problems, but he is no 1 in t20, and I feel no 7 is perfect for him. He can't do worse then jadeja, India can afford to discard one extra spinner and go with a 4 + 1 pace and spin attack.

Good points Bhai!
A) yes. He also has scored gadzillions of runs against the same pace and swing. Yes, the incoming delivery from the lh bowler is a defo weakness - i'd still back him to come back big. That ball from afridi was awesome -no doubting that and it would have taken 9/10 players from any team any day.
B) Yes. he is a strange player. Grips high, plays tall, lot of upper hand almost like a Greg chappell or Zaheer Abbas....and not a definative front foot defense or press and i am not convinced of his technique against quality spin. I feel he will do good on bouncy wickets where the ball comes on. needs a lot of improving for sure.
c) i felt he look v confident and the ball was pinging off his bat well....had he played that shot a foot either side....but i still feel he is a better test player than white ball.
Imam is a far more experienced and better player- he has big numbers behind him and has won several for pak. Shreyas needs to give us a big one soon, else he is out'
d) just based on this one innings you are saying so? do not know exactly but am sure he's scored more than 2k runs in odi and tc. he has delivered on a lot of occasions, won us a few. i doubt if 'useless no 7' is apt for him
E) Totally agreed 100 pc. Shahein, Naseem, harris all can hit 6's, shadab and wasim jr are also good batsmen. Expecting 15+ from our last 4 guys is bonus.
If i was to change, i'd go for shami for shardul. unless team management feel conditions in pallakella are conducive to swing.
for Pak i'd say its not everyday a class bowler like Shadab will have an off day, i'd back him to bounce back strongly.
However, i also agree with your first comment on both teams being over rated.
reality is fans of both teams want their team to win rather than enjoy the cricket or discuss the skills on offer - its jingoism that takes over...and sadly when that happens, rationale fails...

 

[mominsaigol]

Good points Bhai!
A) yes. He also has scored gadzillions of runs against the same pace and swing. Yes, the incoming delivery from the lh bowler is a defo weakness - i'd still back him to come back big. That ball from afridi was awesome -no doubting that and it would have taken 9/10 players from any team any day.
B) Yes. he is a strange player. Grips high, plays tall, lot of upper hand almost like a Greg chappell or Zaheer Abbas....and not a definative front foot defense or press and i am not convinced of his technique against quality spin. I feel he will do good on bouncy wickets where the ball comes on. needs a lot of improving for sure.
c) i felt he look v confident and the ball was pinging off his bat well....had he played that shot a foot either side....but i still feel he is a better test player than white ball.
Imam is a far more experienced and better player- he has big numbers behind him and has won several for pak. Shreyas needs to give us a big one soon, else he is out'
d) just based on this one innings you are saying so? do not know exactly but am sure he's scored more than 2k runs in odi and tc. he has delivered on a lot of occasions, won us a few. i doubt if 'useless no 7' is apt for him
E) Totally agreed 100 pc. Shahein, Naseem, harris all can hit 6's, shadab and wasim jr are also good batsmen. Expecting 15+ from our last 4 guys is bonus.
If i was to change, i'd go for shami for shardul. unless team management feel conditions in pallakella are conducive to swing.
for Pak i'd say its not everyday a class bowler like Shadab will have an off day, i'd back him to bounce back strongly.
However, i also agree with your first comment on both teams being over rated.
reality is fans of both teams want their team to win rather than enjoy the cricket or discuss the skills on offer - its jingoism that takes over...and sadly when that happens, rationale fails...

The rest of what you said I agree with but as for jadeja, I don't think he's a bad player. He is a very good player especially in test for India.

Problem is, no 7 is suppose to be a finisher position, Jadeja isn't a finisher, he's an accumulator who lacks Impact at no 7. He needs pandya or a settled batsmen to hold his hand at the back of the innings.

But problem is jadeja isn't good enough to replace Rahul, Kishan, Pandya or sheryas in the middle order, so he's forced to bat at no 7, since bringing in sky at no 7 means India lose the 6th bowling option and sky has genuinely been atrocious at tests.

 

[MenInG]

India's former chief selector Chetan Sharma:

"Why you played an extra fast bowler? You take that route when there is help for seamers on the pitch. So, you played an extra fast bowler and opted to bat first, why?"

 

[mominsaigol]

Then checked Rohit Sharma odi record vs Pakistan. He was scored 140 when we faced last time .

2019 rohit was the last time he's been in form.

I have massive respect for rohit. He's an ATG and one of the finest openers in world cricket during 2013 to 2019.

But rohit is sadly done now, he is a liability in the Indian team, ishan deserves to open. Theirs nothing wrong with that, Alot of cricketers loose their mojo at the end, waqar younis, Sohaib Akhtar, Virender sehwag, saeed Anwar, at the end of their careers, they just aren't the same.

Rohit has been out of it since 2020 only scoring once in a blue moon now. He's a bunny to shaheen and naseem at this point.