"Pakistan-Afghanistan rivalry is greater than India-Afghanistan": Gulbadin Naib

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Gulbadin Naib speaking during an interview:

"We always talk about top leagues around the world. The platform that we are getting here, and that our players had already got before, I think our cricket structure has changed. Even Rashid (Khan), Mohammad Nabi, Naveen-ul-Haq, Mujeeb Zadran (Mujeeb Ur Rahman), they shared the IPL experience with us, something that was not their in the team. And the team atmosphere has changed. Even the players' fitness structure has changed. So I think... Afghans players, they are in demand around the world irrespective of where the league is. Wherever the league is, you'll get around 8 to 10 players from Afghanistan."

"The ILT20... I'm enjoying here, and the fun that I'm having with such big players, and the way that we are sharing the experience [is great]. Today, I was watching David Warner, scoring 13,000 runs, it's no small thing. He made 108 half-centuries, eight centuries in T20 cricket. I was watching it on the screen and later I started thinking that [such great] players that are with you [in the team], on the bus, in the dressing room, even on the ground... if they are with you in the crease, you get to learn a lot. So, I'm enjoying here [at ILT20], the cricket, and this tournament. I can say that it's the best moment in my life now."

"(Laughs) It's a tough question. Because if you go to the audience, people like to see us playing matches against Pakistan, because we enjoy playing with them. They are a loving cricketing nation. We enjoy playing with India as well because Pakistan and India are cricketing nations, loving cricketing nations, people enjoy cricket a lot."

"Even when we were playing the last T20 series in India, we couldn't believe that we were playing at their home... the crowd we saw [was huge]. And even when we were playing in Pakistan, or when we played matches with Pakistan in Dubai, they enjoy a lot. People are entertained. People get to see things like this, and they enjoy cricket. And we want to play more against the big teams because the more we play the better it is for the players. So I think we like to play with Pakistan."

"If you ask any Afghanistan player, he will tell you [that Afghanistan are the favourites]. But all the teams are the favorites. Because the top eight teams in the Champions Trophy, you can say that they are top-ranked. Because the eight teams which did well in the ODI World Cup teams, they qualified from there for the Champions Trophy. So I can say that no team is easy [to face]. All the eight teams are very tough."
 
India-Afghanistan is not a rivalry. It reminds me more of a big brother and little brother relationship. Little brother looks up to big brother a bit too much, and is rarely able to compete with big brother when they play.
 
Pakistan-Afghanistan is a hot rivalry, no doubt, driven heavily by political realities. Afghanistan always seem like they have a point to prove to Pakistan. Which is why they often come close even when they lose. I can tell you that Afghanistan-Pakistan matches draw plenty of interest in KPK, where they divide Pakistani and Afghan pashtuns
 
India-Afghanistan is not a rivalry. It reminds me more of a big brother and little brother relationship. Little brother looks up to big brother a bit too much, and is rarely able to compete with big brother when they play.
So whenever Afghanistan is playing against india than afghanistan players has not shown any intent? Are you saying this ?

:kp
 
So whenever Afghanistan is playing against india than afghanistan players has not shown any intent? Are you saying this ?

:kp
I think Afghanistan players look up to Indian players too much, because of IPL. They strive to achieve that level of stardom. They aren't driven to prove a point the same way they are against Pakistan.
 
It is true. After every post match ceremony they deidcate the win to refugees that were sent back. There is a strong political reason. There are some Afghan girls who actually wear Indian jersey when India plays against other countries and root for them.
 
No where in his comments did he talk about Afg - Pakistan nor Afg - India rivalry…
 
It's because Afghanistan doesn't fear Pakistan. They try their best and are out to get them which makes it difficult for pakistan to win against them
 
There is no rivalry between Pakistan and Afghanistan.There is plenty of animosity though.Afghans are under no pressure when they play Pakistan whereas Pakistan is under a lot of pressure.Pakistan doesn’t want to lose to Afghanistan which is relatively new to cricket and has no facilities.It is embarrassing for an established team to lose to Afghanistan.This puts pressure on Pakistan.
 
Naseem Shah owns AFG team, they are worst than Bangladesh cannot forget the Heysel type disaster in Sharjah some years ago
 
Their bowlers so far have not shown the skill to counter Indian batters.

They did come close to beating India in a T20 match recently but the skill gap is huge between these 2 teams..

Against PAK, their spinners are effective and in recent times PAK have not had quality spinners to respond in kind.

That's the difference
 
This is very true.... Afghans do not like Pakistan TBH...

But a question I have in mind is if Pakistan Gov. will give visas to Afghan fans for the event????
 
Besides what Naib thinks, he is in fine form with the bat and will be very good on Pakistan tracks

Naib and Omarzai boost Afghanistan batting massively
 
Besides what Naib thinks, he is in fine form with the bat and will be very good on Pakistan tracks

Naib and Omarzai boost Afghanistan batting massively
In T20Is, yes. In ODI, Naib's selection makes very little sense. He has picked up 1 wicket in the last 7 matches and has very poor batting numbers in the past couple of years too. He is also probably over 40.
 
India-Afghanistan is not a rivalry. It reminds me more of a big brother and little brother relationship. Little brother looks up to big brother a bit too much, and is rarely able to compete with big brother when they play.
it is a rivalry.
 
Their bowlers so far have not shown the skill to counter Indian batters.

They did come close to beating India in a T20 match recently but the skill gap is huge between these 2 teams..

Against PAK, their spinners are effective and in recent times PAK have not had quality spinners to respond in kind.

That's the difference
Well they've also beaten Pakistan just once too. But Afghanistan players are clearly driven by something more when they play Pakistan. It may be a sense of resentment they have for Pakistani state or whatever but you can definitely see that they play out of their skins against Pakistan, but not always against other teams.
 
Well they've also beaten Pakistan just once too. But Afghanistan players are clearly driven by something more when they play Pakistan. It may be a sense of resentment they have for Pakistani state or whatever but you can definitely see that they play out of their skins against Pakistan, but not always against other teams.

They maybe more motivated but it's the difference in skillsets that matter more imo.

India frequently struggle against NZ because we often play a Top 6 of right hand batters and all NZ bowlers have significantly stronger records against RHB's

Weaker teams often did better against them because they had left handers to hit their bowlers and put them under pressure.
 
This rivalry is equivalent to the Bangaldesh india rivalry. The bengalis really hate on them
 
Don't see how it is. Australia v Afghanistan is more of a rivalry
every match they play is intense and the trolling Pakistnai fans do is next level.

Most of the fans dont want to admit it as they think its insulting, but it is a rivalry.
 
every match they play is intense and the trolling Pakistnai fans do is next level.

Most of the fans dont want to admit it as they think its insulting, but it is a rivalry.
Are you talking about Pakistan v Afghanistan or India v Afghanistan? I'm talking about India v Afghanistan not being a rivalry. Pakistan v Afghanistan is most definitely a rivalry.
 
it is a rivalry.
How is india vs Afghanistan a rivalry? Afghanistan literally boot licks India.

Pakistan vs Afghanistan is a rivalry due to hostile country borders + Afghanistan cricket always out to get Pakistan and wanting to prove their superiority and vice versa.
 
Afghanistan seems to have 4 rivalries currently.

Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Border issue and other domestic issues).
Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe (their games are often close ones).
Afghanistan vs Australia (Aussies refused to invite Afghanistan due to women's right issue).
Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (records are pretty even almost).

Afghanistan-India is not a rivalry.
 
Tottenham vs Arsenal is the correct comparison.

Spurs too big to be compared with AFG, they are UCl finalists

BtW AfG is like an adopted child for Ind, don't they gave Noida as home venue to them and affinity towards AFG players over Bangladesh in IPL
 
When has Afghanistan ever bootlicked India ? Seems like you're jealous of the former for some reason.
Ignoring the fact that bcci literally allows them to use their pitches as their 2nd home ground and play IPL as bcci has fetched them contracts and have supported their cricket,

Afghanistan appreciates it and plays against India with way less intensity then they do vs any other sides as their on friendly terms.

Now that doesn't mean that they let India win per say, but that same intensity they showcase towards Australia, England, Pakistan, New Zealand etc is missing vs India in the same way New Zealand Lacks intensity towards Australia which is why they typically lose even if they have a superior team.
 
BtW AfG is like an adopted child for Ind, don't they gave Noida as home venue to them and affinity towards AFG players over Bangladesh in IPL

Afghanistan have better players (some) than Bangladesh do, hence why they're picked for IPL. Nothing to do with some weird geopolitical affinity.

Rashid is not a merit-pick ?
 
Afghanistan seems to have 4 rivalries currently.

Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Border issue and other domestic issues).
Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe (their games are often close ones).
Afghanistan vs Australia (Aussies refused to invite Afghanistan due to women's right issue).
Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (records are pretty even almost).

Afghanistan-India is not a rivalry.
Bangladesh record is still way better against Afghanistan... u can expect Afgh to win any game only on spin tracks but bangladesh can challenge them on pacy wickets too
 
Now that doesn't mean that they let India win per say, but that same intensity they showcase towards Australia, England, Pakistan, New Zealand etc is missing vs India in the same way New Zealand Lacks intensity towards Australia which is why they typically lose even if they have a superior team.

NZ don't lack too much intensity vs Aus, maybe they're overawed by their neighbour who are the more consistent performers in sport. That's pure speculation.

The right word is 'intimidated by India', not bootlicking them. Learn the proper usage of words instead of talking like a paindu.
 
How is india vs Afghanistan a rivalry? Afghanistan literally boot licks India.

Pakistan vs Afghanistan is a rivalry due to hostile country borders + Afghanistan cricket always out to get Pakistan and wanting to prove their superiority and vice versa.
Was mentioning pak afg.
 
When has Afghanistan ever bootlicked India ? Seems like you're jealous of the former for some reason.
This post reflects how much cricket you follow.

You need to watch interview of players, read the cricket history of afg and see how they talk about india.

Everyone who follows crixket is aware the bootlicking afg does of india
 
Afghanistan have better players (some) than Bangladesh do, hence why they're picked for IPL. Nothing to do with some weird geopolitical affinity.

Rashid is not a merit-pick ?
No not really. Its geopolitical.

Hamid Hassan and Nabi in his prime was ignored by IPL. Dawlat Zadran aswell didnt get an ipl contract early in his career, and he was much better pacer than india has had. Same about Hamid.

In recent years, when the geopolitics change and the indian appeasement started, more Afg players made way to ipl. Someone like Zahir Khan bagged a contract whilè Dawlat Zadran And hamid hassan missed out in their prime.
 
Nice joke. India vs Afghanistan was never a rivalry. I always feel Afghanistan doesn't give their 100% against India. :inti
One thing i love about afg is if any team beats them badly or on steal a win on the verge of defeat, they take that personal and come back in the next game with a purpose or a fight.

However against India, they dont care and is all smiles. In 2019 world cup they lost a game they xould had won against them. Had this been some other team, they would had taken that loss as personal, but against them they couldnt care less
 
NZ don't lack too much intensity vs Aus, maybe they're overawed by their neighbour who are the more consistent performers in sport. That's pure speculation.

The right word is 'intimidated by India', not bootlicking them. Learn the proper usage of words instead of talking like a paindu.
The only person acting like a retarded paindu is you.

Afg intimated by india? Smiling is and laughing is not intimidation.

Maybe before telling others, better to correct yourself
 
One thing i love about afg is if any team beats them badly or on steal a win on the verge of defeat, they take that personal and come back in the next game with a purpose or a fight.

However against India, they dont care and is all smiles. In 2019 world cup they lost a game they xould had won against them. Had this been some other team, they would had taken that loss as personal, but against them they couldnt care less
Poor appeasement of Indians cost them very bad on majority of occasions.
 
The only person acting like a retarded paindu is you.

Afg intimated by india? Smiling is and laughing is not intimidation.

Maybe before telling others, better to correct yourself

Many Indian posters here behave this way.

If they don't agree, they resort to insults. When they get it back, they cry victims.

:qdkcheeky
 
NZ don't lack too much intensity vs Aus, maybe they're overawed by their neighbour who are the more consistent performers in sport. That's pure speculation.

The right word is 'intimidated by India', not bootlicking them. Learn the proper usage of words instead of talking like a paindu.
When you have "major" stomach burn these kind of strawman arguments pop up. I am waiting to hear the theory "USA is not showing intensity against India because Sundar pitchai is CEO of google, Satya Nadella is CEO of Microsoft"
 
There is some truth to what Naib is saying.

Afghanistan always gives their best against Pakistan and the matches are total blockbusters. I would love to watch Afg-Pak play a full series in both T20’s and Tests.
 
There is some truth to what Naib is saying.

Afghanistan always gives their best against Pakistan and the matches are total blockbusters. I would love to watch Afg-Pak play a full series in both T20’s and Tests.
Afghanistan did not break sweat when they beat Pakistan in WC2023. Reason is many teams fancy beating Pakistan. Remember Sikander Raza's interview about how they knew they would beat even before the match. Also Ali khan from USA told "Pakistan is the one that we targetted". Bangladesh whitewashed them. If there is one big team that associate, minnow sides fancy beating that is pakistan.
 
Dawlat Zadran aswell didnt get an ipl contract early in his career, and he was much better pacer than india has
Who were the Indian pacers at the time when Dawlat Zadran was being overlooked in the IPL?
 
Afghanistan did not break sweat when they beat Pakistan in WC2023. Reason is many teams fancy beating Pakistan. Remember Sikander Raza's interview about how they knew they would beat even before the match. Also Ali khan from USA told "Pakistan is the one that we targetted". Bangladesh whitewashed them. If there is one big team that associate, minnow sides fancy beating that is pakistan.
I feel Bangladesh will also fancy their chances now after the Test series win.
 
When you have "major" stomach burn these kind of strawman arguments pop up. I am waiting to hear the theory "USA is not showing intensity against India because Sundar pitchai is CEO of google, Satya Nadella is CEO of Microsoft"
so are there Indian ceos running Poppyfields in Afg?
 
Afghanistan have better players (some) than Bangladesh do, hence why they're picked for IPL. Nothing to do with some weird geopolitical affinity.

Rashid is not a merit-pick ?
Afghanistan are better T20 than Pakistan too.

Which Pakistani player gets into their T20i side?
 
Afghanistan are better T20 than Pakistan too.

Which Pakistani player gets into their T20i side?

Fakhar and Saim probably.

Afghan batting isn't that great apart from Gurbaz. It is their spinners who are really good.
 
Afghanistan are better T20 than Pakistan too.

Which Pakistani player gets into their T20i side?
here comes the guy who desperate to make every minnow team and cricketer better than Pakistan.
 
Fakhar and Saim probably.

Afghan batting isn't that great apart from Gurbaz. It is their spinners who are really good.

Gulbudin, Omarzai and Najibullah are better than EVERYONE in Pakistan for those positions between 3-6. Nabi as well. Pakistan have no batsmen for T20 apart from Saim and Fakhar. The ones who are good are not rated by Pakistan and their fans.

Shaheen and Rauf as seamers should get into their side. That’s it.
 
Desperate? No pal Pakistan do that for me on the world stage anyways
Overall in odi

Afghanistan bowling > Pakistan's bowling.

Pakistan's batting > Afghanistan's batting (their stocks in odi besides gurbaz aren't impressive)

Fielding depends, both are rubbish fielding sides.

Both teams are relatively equal. I dont think gulbadin is incorrect in assuming that these 2 countries are proper rivals.

India is more or less an Australian rival now. Their heated moments in BGT are above how India treats Pakistan now. Most of their pacers and batters just chill with us and then crush us.
 
Ghazanfar
Rashid
Noor Ahmed
Nabi


That’s 4 spinners over every spinner in Pakistan
I am going to follow this newbie Ghazanfar. Never saw him play, but the hype he has is making fans excited to see him bowl.

One thing is for sure. IPL loves Afghan spinners.
 
I am going to follow this newbie Ghazanfar. Never saw him play, but the hype he has is making fans excited to see him bowl.

One thing is for sure. IPL loves Afghan spinners.
He’s just a younger and more exciting version than Mujeeb.

The real deal is Noor Ahmed. Beautiful matchwinner bowler
 
Overall in odi

Afghanistan bowling > Pakistan's bowling.

Pakistan's batting > Afghanistan's batting (their stocks in odi besides gurbaz aren't impressive)

Fielding depends, both are rubbish fielding sides.

Both teams are relatively equal. I dont think gulbadin is incorrect in assuming that these 2 countries are proper rivals.

India is more or less an Australian rival now. Their heated moments in BGT are above how India treats Pakistan now. Most of their pacers and batters just chill with us and then crush us.
Their Ibrahim Zadran is just like Kohli...statpadder
 
Hahaha. pakistan/ Bangladeshi and wannabe fans are King of conspiracy theories .

There is a smell of something burning Inside this thread .

Full support to Afghanistan team in the champion trophy .

#Losers

:kp
 
Bharat vs Pakistan is the greatest sporting rivalry in the planet. Bet millions of people in the world probably only know cricket because they heard about this Bharat vs Pakistan match news somewhere.

You cannot beat it bro.
First of all it’s Bharat, the most amazing nation in the world. 1.5 billion people bro. Back off.
Then you’ve got Pakistan who are formerly Bharat but come in green colour and built an identity for themselves. I mean imagine how special you must be that you separated from Bharat and still made a powerful nation? That’s unheard of. We are the Evolution of Cricket. Pakistan is our Batista.

Here’s when Qaid-e-Azam MA Jinnah told Nehru and Mountbaton to get lost in 1947

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And the look on Jay Shah’s face when Mohsin Naqvi reminded him of the overall W/L ratio during the last ICC board meeting

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@shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal
 
I want to see Pakistan vs Afghanistan Semi-final in CT... Am I asking too much... Let's go
 
I want to see Pakistan vs Afghanistan Semi-final in CT... Am I asking too much... Let's go
This is real possibility now . england are pathetic against spinners so are Africa . Australia is going to play without Cummins, Hazlewood and Marsh . So Afghanistan has very good chance to qualifying for semifinal .

On other Group india is playing with too Many passengers so NZ and pakistan are likely to beat us .

Pakistan fan's good days are coming up .

:kp
 
Going by the logics in some arguments made here, NZ should be banned from playing in India and all their IPL contracts should be abandoned (for the "intent" they showed while whitewashing India at home in the biggest format of cricket! How dare they did that?) NZ should be banned from playing cricket altogether, ICC (Indian Cricket Council) should take an action, are they sleeping?
 
In the mid-late nineties when Sri Lanka was hammering India left-right-top-bottom-centre (+5 or 10 more dimensions) even I thought at that time Sri Lanka is like a little brother to India and how come they are allowed to beat us like this, they are supposed to surrender...

But the point is - with the emergence of Sri Lankan cricket and inclusion of another strong cricket nation (with cricket being played within so less countries) it helped cricket grow everywhere (including in India). If Afghanistan is going to grow and become a strong cricket nation, it only helps India/BCCI/whoever to make more money.

If Afghanistan becomes a strong test nation (the only team to challenge India at home like Pakistan used to do in past), then we can have many bilaterals (of course there's no away tour for India as Afghanistan doesn't play at home OR maybe in UAE). BCCI is already losing some money without bilateral cricket against Pakistan (but IPL and intense cricket with Australia is more than making up for that). So a strong Afghanistan cricket team is going to bring some extra revenue to India (which Sri Lanka and Bangladesh at the moment are not capable of). Time to think practically...
 
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Gulbadin Naib criticizes Mohammad Amir for mocking his bicep flex celebration after winning the ILT20 2025 final and expresses his disappointment while speaking to an Indian media outlet:

"I always say it is a gentleman's game. You should respect each other. If you don't show respect, no one will respect you either. He knows how much respect he got by doing this act. As a cricketer, as a human being, you should respect everyone."
 
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Gulbadin Naib criticizes Mohammad Amir for mocking his bicep flex celebration after winning the ILT20 2025 final and expresses his disappointment while speaking to an Indian media outlet:

"I always say it is a gentleman's game. You should respect each other. If you don't show respect, no one will respect you either. He knows how much respect he got by doing this act. As a cricketer, as a human being, you should respect everyone."
Agree with this

Sam Curran was taking the P in the last game too with Gulbuddin. The guy does his celebration for himself, not to annoy anyone. Curran and Amir were unnecessarily going after him.

Do it to Rizwan who does that cringe wakanda celebration to annoy people!
 
Who knows may be Amir has some evil personality traits , his cricketing career is full of it
 
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Gulbadin Naib criticizes Mohammad Amir for mocking his bicep flex celebration after winning the ILT20 2025 final and expresses his disappointment while speaking to an Indian media outlet:

"I always say it is a gentleman's game. You should respect each other. If you don't show respect, no one will respect you either. He knows how much respect he got by doing this act. As a cricketer, as a human being, you should respect everyone."
All Gulbadin needs to say to Amir is atleast he never sold his country for one weeks wage in Uk
 
Agree with this

Sam Curran was taking the P in the last game too with Gulbuddin. The guy does his celebration for himself, not to annoy anyone. Curran and Amir were unnecessarily going after him.

Do it to Rizwan who does that cringe wakanda celebration to annoy people!
Irony died in this post.

Yet Rizwans celebration annoys you lol
 
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