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Pakistan appears to be playing a key backchannel role in possible U.S-Iran negotiations

All sides will lose.

But the longer this goes on, Iranian regime will lose more than the Americans and Israelis and Arabs.

They have resisted, but they cannot win. They are a country suffering from sanctions, battling two superpowers, surrounded by hostile states and internal trouble makers.
It is in their best interest to settle if the US is willing to. They may not get this chance again.

5-6 days ago I thought they would continue as the Americans were beligerent. but the statement from Trump regarding no attacks to power infrastructure was significant. If ever there is a time for Iran to come out of this, they can.

And you never know with Trump, he could offer something significant, that benefits both the Americans and Iranians financially, and even have the Ayatollah at the White House next week calling him his great friend.
The Pak posters here do not agree with you and are belligerent - iran should not stop , Iran will bring the US to its knees blah bah etc etc but what you said is the reality. It is actually a great chance for Iran actually. The Iranian regime needs to get out of this US is satan mindset and try to settle , this would be the best outcome with no further loss of life and resources. But , you know what , common sense is not common exemplified by some of the Pak posters posts above.
 
Do you believe all the Arab monarchies did not want this war? From what I can tell, at least the Saudis were really pushing for it. Also there have been recent revelations how UAE are staunchly pro israel.

I believe US probably did not want this war as bad as Israel and some Arab states from what I can tell.
Sure the US went along with the Israeli‑driven escalation but the US also has its own motives to attack Iran.

As for the Arabs; they surely want a regime change now.
 
Sure the US went along with the Israeli‑driven escalation but the US also has its own motives to attack Iran.

As for the Arabs; they surely want a regime change now.
oh my, poor wittle arabs. now they want a regime change after their lands were used to attack the same sovereign land. lol
 
Probably the reason why Iran doesn’t trust India either considering how they sold out their Marine vessel and the fact that Modi was choooosing off Netanyahu
 
The Pak posters here do not agree with you and are belligerent - iran should not stop , Iran will bring the US to its knees blah bah etc etc but what you said is the reality. It is actually a great chance for Iran actually. The Iranian regime needs to get out of this US is satan mindset and try to settle , this would be the best outcome with no further loss of life and resources. But , you know what , common sense is not common exemplified by some of the Pak posters posts above.
Its not that simple. No country or leader wants to be in a war or seeing its people being bombed on a daily basis. This is not about some posters sitting behind a screen. People still follow a certain narrative but its way more complicated.
 
Afghansitan is not a terrorist state..it doesn't sponsor terrorists .it has rabid Islam who are focused on destroying women in their own country..sponsored and supported by terrorist state Pakistan

Israel might be accused of genocide and apartheid but not of terrorism...which terror org does Israel sponsor or support

israel is bombing countries unprovoked all through the middle east and has committed a genocide on the indigenous population of Palestine while replacing them with Europeans. When it gets to this level of misinformation and propaganda, then words like terrorist mean nothing any more.
 
pakistan has a long history of walking diplomatic tight ropes, and if they manage to pull this off, which is still a huge uncertainty, it will be a very big feather in the historical cap of pakistans geopolitical milestones. post operation sindoor pak has leveraged its visibility as a connection between east and west, the global south, "pariah" states and the developed world. pakistan stands to gain a lot from having this issue resolved without having to back either shias or sunnis in this conflict.

indian saltiness is illogical, if not particularly surprising, they pride themeselve on their neutrality, and when no one cares about them they do the surprised pikachu face.
 
pakistan has a long history of walking diplomatic tight ropes, and if they manage to pull this off, which is still a huge uncertainty, it will be a very big feather in the historical cap of pakistans geopolitical milestones. post operation sindoor pak has leveraged its visibility as a connection between east and west, the global south, "pariah" states and the developed world. pakistan stands to gain a lot from having this issue resolved without having to back either shias or sunnis in this conflict.

indian saltiness is illogical, if not particularly surprising, they pride themeselve on their neutrality, and when no one cares about them they do the surprised pikachu face.
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@deltexas not supporting the war anymore that his beloved PDF started?
Well, the Iranian mullah regime, the top brass has been decapitated, the Iranian nuclear program has been set up decades and the other ME nations will never trust Iran again and get their own defense systems and weapons mostly from the US. Mission accomplished. No need for troops on the ground and making the Iranian common folks suffer. Unlike you , who perpetually wants to be in war mode defending the Islamic Ummah with no care for life or resources
 
Well, the Iranian mullah regime, the top brass has been decapitated, the Iranian nuclear program has been set up decades and the other ME nations will never trust Iran again and get their own defense systems and weapons mostly from the US. Mission accomplished. No need for troops on the ground and making the Iranian common folks suffer. Unlike you , who perpetually wants to be in war mode defending the Islamic Ummah with no care for life or resources

Spoken like a true PDF follower.
 
Russia and China have now vested interest in Iran. Iran's stocks will be replenished. Iran has survived through all these years of sanctions, I dont see this war making too much of a dent to their overall situation. And giving space to Israel means their illegal genocidal expansion will continue unhindered.
China can definitely invest but that's not necessarily good for Iran. Russia can help but not sure how given their own state.
 
pakistan has a long history of walking diplomatic tight ropes, and if they manage to pull this off, which is still a huge uncertainty, it will be a very big feather in the historical cap of pakistans geopolitical milestones. post operation sindoor pak has leveraged its visibility as a connection between east and west, the global south, "pariah" states and the developed world. pakistan stands to gain a lot from having this issue resolved without having to back either shias or sunnis in this conflict.

indian saltiness is illogical, if not particularly surprising, they pride themeselve on their neutrality, and when no one cares about them they do the surprised pikachu face.
So you are saying Paksitan is not neutral. Which side is it on. Speaking of myself..this is none of Indias business..so I'm surprised with our saltiness but then our journalists are pretty stupid. It's good for Paksitan but not bad for India.
 
israel is bombing countries unprovoked all through the middle east and has committed a genocide on the indigenous population of Palestine while replacing them with Europeans. When it gets to this level of misinformation and propaganda, then words like terrorist mean nothing any more.
Criticism of Israel is valid but Iran is no saint...when you support terrorism and have your terrorist commit Oct 7 against a power that takes zero chance against their survivabikity...you get destroyed
 
So you are saying Paksitan is not neutral. Which side is it on. Speaking of myself..this is none of Indias business..so I'm surprised with our saltiness but then our journalists are pretty stupid. It's good for Paksitan but not bad for India.
saudi and americas side, but does not want to destabilise iran due to shia influence within country, hence the only major sunni country with domestic skin in the game if everything goes out of control, thus motivated for de escalation.

as a reference these are the geopolitical list of relations by priority to pakistan
china
usa
saudi
the rest
 
So you are saying Paksitan is not neutral. Which side is it on. Speaking of myself..this is none of Indias business..so I'm surprised with our saltiness but then our journalists are pretty stupid. It's good for Paksitan but not bad for India.

Diplomatically we are neutral… but with the KSA Defense Agreement and US Relations we are firmly against Iran if Saudi is attacked further or if Pakistan gets attacked…
 
Diplomatically we are neutral… but with the KSA Defense Agreement and US Relations we are firmly against Iran if Saudi is attacked further or if Pakistan gets attacked…


Pakistan genuinely wants things to deescalate. Especially between our allies and Muslim countries. I don't think we care much for Israel and Pakistan like Iran is trying to separate the US and Israel nexus. If USA agrees to a ceasefire and Israel doesn't then it makes it easier for Iran to deal with Israel.

Things will get out of hand if our eastern neighbour openly colludes with Israel. Then we have no choice but to be in the opposite camp
 
At the very least, Kushner and Witkoff will get an upset stomach in Pakistan
The resistance should consider that a win
 
The celebrations on this thread seem to be the very definition of "premature ..... "
:kp

FYI, Qatar and UAE were playing host to negotiations between US/Israel and Hamas and Iran, both places are getting bombed. History has a bad habit of repeating itself.
 
The celebrations on this thread seem to be the very definition of "premature ..... "
:kp

FYI, Qatar and UAE were playing host to negotiations between US/Israel and Hamas and Iran, both places are getting bombed. History has a bad habit of repeating itself.
When you see the source - Newyork Time than read who is the author, if its is Elien peltier means it's Pakistan propaganda।
:klopp :kp
 
So much for the supposed mediator. Can't even get its vessel.seems Iran asked 2mn usd fees for the pass and as usual pak dont have any.

Iran turns back Karachi-bound ship trying to pass through Strait of Hormuz

US Iran War: Iran turns back Karachi-bound ship trying to pass through Strait of Hormuz
Iran has turned back a Pakistan-bound container vessel attempting to transit the Strait of Hormuz, citing a “lack of permission”. According to Alireza Tangsiri, the IRGC Navy intercepted the ship, identified as SELEN, after it failed to comply with required legal protocols.

Tangsiri stated that all vessels must coordinate fully with Iran’s maritime authorities before entering the strategic waterway. He described the action as an assertion of Iran’s maritime sovereignty, adding that such enforcement was made possible with public support. The move underscores Tehran’s tightening control over one of the world’s most critical energy transit routes.


 
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