Pakistan at the 2022 T20 World Cup : What would be an acceptable outcome for them?

[nextover666666]

With the T20 world cup about 3 months away, what are your expectations of this team.

For me personally I believe Pakistan should make the semi-finals at least. Despite the Australian Conditions, I think Pakistan can get past this group.

Even if Pakistan lose their opening match to India, I do fancy our chances vs South Africa ( could go either way) and Bangladesh. Pak would face also Winner of Group B ( which would most likely be Windies) that match would not be easy, could be possible Pakistan lose their too. They would also play the runner up of Group A (Most like be Netherlands).

If Pakistan wins 3 matches, I think they can still go through, but if they win 4 it would should be enough. I think this time around Pakistan will not have a perfect run in group stage and will lose 1 game or 2 at max.

My accepetable result for Pakistan in semi-finals, if they go beyond that even better what do you guys think.

 

[Rajdeep]

Lets be honest, a win on 23rd Oct is only thing that matters. Ask any Pakistani fan and most will say they were very happy to beat India in 2021. Not many cared about the semi final exit. Everyone remembers 152/0 but not Matthew Wade, everyone speaks about Shaheen Afridi's dismissal of Rohit Sharma but no one remember his (even better) delivery to Aaron Finch.

Same goes for India. Everyone still laments about that loss against Pakistan but no one talks about the NZ game where we actually played much worse.

Bottomline is, only game that matters in T20 WC is on 23rd Oct in Melbourne. What happens before or after that is meaningless.

 

[nextover666666]

Lets be honest, a win on 23rd Oct is only thing that matters. Ask any Pakistani fan and most will say they were very happy to beat India in 2021. Not many cared about the semi final exit. Everyone remembers 152/0 but not Matthew Wade, everyone speaks about Shaheen Afridi's dismissal of Rohit Sharma but no one remember his (even better) delivery to Aaron Finch.

Same goes for India. Everyone still laments about that loss against Pakistan but no one talks about the NZ game where we actually played much worse.

Bottomline is, only game that matters in T20 WC is on 23rd Oct in Melbourne. What happens before or after that is meaningless.

So winning a world title if possible is meaningless. Yes India vs Pakistan is the biggest match, and fans want to win that match more than anything ( but reason) why Pakistan fans were did not care about the semi-final exit, was due to the streak India had over Pakistan, it was more about ending that streak.

I do agree that fans from both side, will be say beat the rival, we do not care what happens after. However the question or forum ask what is an acceptable overall result for Pakistan. Fans should try to look at the bigger picture, beating India is great, but winning the world cup is even greater and should be the aim for both teams and fans.

 

[Villager6964]

As long as Pakistan beat India. I couldn't care less about winning the world cup.

During the last world cup when Pakistan lost against Australia.
Here Hindus celebrated so so much like india won the world Cup final against Pakistan.

They celebrated just because Pakistan trounced India.
So i hope Pakistan win the world cup this time around but for me Pakistan has to beat India that's like the most important match to me.

 

[MenInG]

To be honest, a berth in the final is the minimum I will accept.

 

[hitthestump]

Babar is not a great LOI captain and his decisions cost Pakistan the trophy.

Additionally conditions in Aus are not in Pakistan's favour nor do they suit our XI. A lot will depend on Hasan Ali and Rauf not recieving phainties every game.

England, Australia, South Africa and India will trounce us. NZ and WI will be tough opponents too.

Overall - anyone who thinks Pak can make the semis is probably dreaming.

 

[Marooned]

Babar is not a great LOI captain and his decisions cost Pakistan the trophy.

Additionally conditions in Aus are not in Pakistan's favour nor do they suit our XI. A lot will depend on Hasan Ali and Rauf not recieving phainties every game.

England, Australia, South Africa and India will trounce us. NZ and WI will be tough opponents too.

Overall - anyone who thinks Pak can make the semis is probably dreaming.

Hasan Ali has no buiseness going to Australia. His selection itself is a deathblow. Shaheen-Rauf-Dahani should be the pacers in Australia.

 

[TeymurBlake]

To be honest I don't have high hopes, its in Australia a country where Pakistan has struggled a lot in last couple of decades. With scores averaging 210+, I don't have any hopes. Specially with the lack of power hitters down the order.

 

[Slim]

Semis at least and hopefully all the way. I dont see much difference between Pakistan and other top contenders.

 

[nextover666666]

The conditions do not suit Pakistan that is true, but its a tournament, i feel like Pakistan will have a slow start and than peak, and just squeeze to the semi-finals. I know it will not be an easy tournament for Pakistan, but they have a good t20 squad, once they adapt to the conditions and get the right combination, I do believe they can do well.

 

[Nasty Naz]

To be honest, a berth in the final is the minimum I will accept.

lol the minimum? To the finals? In Australian conditions? Where there are better T20 teams in India/England/Australia?

I think reaching the semi's alone is acceptable and anything on top of that is gravy. Pakistan still don't even have a settled middle order or have good options in all honesty. A finals berth may happen but expecting it seems crazy to me. They weren't even able to accomplish that in UAE, in conditions that favoured them.

 

[shamaan]

Hasan Ali has no buiseness going to Australia. His selection itself is a deathblow. Shaheen-Rauf-Dahani should be the pacers in Australia.

Yes I agree that's what bowling attack they should go with Wasim Jnr should be the back up bowler.

 

[shamaan]

I think they must get to the Semi Final that's achievable and realistic.

The team should look like this.

Babar
Rizwan
Fakhar
Haider Ali
Iftikhar
Khushdil
Shadab
Nawaz
Shaheen
Rauf
Dahani

Asif Ali
Muhammed Haris
Imad Wasim
Wasim Jnr

 

[pillionrider]

In answer to the OP:
When you inevitably lose to India, just make sure it's not a massive one

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

They are gonna get eliminated in the group stages only.
UAE approach won't work in Australia.

 

[MenInG]

They are gonna get eliminated in the group stages only.
UAE approach won't work in Australia.

What approach was that?

They outbowled and batted many opposition teams - that is just cricket.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

What approach was that?

They outbowled and batted many opposition teams - that is just cricket.

They don't have the explosiveness and rely on Babar and Rizwan's consistency both of whom strike at 128 which isn't a high str rate.
In Australia this won't work.

 

[Babeikh]

T20 cricket is obviously a lottery and anything can happen on a day....someone could randomly hit 3 sixes in a row and that could be the game. So I will say semi final. I will be disappointed if we don't get to the semi final but after that a random event, momentum etc which you can't predict or expect can happen. However over the course of 5 games I would expect us to be in the top 2.

So semi final for me!

 

[Amjid Javed]

To be honest, a berth in the final is the minimum I will accept.

wow so you think in Aussies conditions that pakistan essentially are one of the best two T20 sides. I can see our team struggling in the conditions and on the big grounds.

 

[Amjid Javed]

What approach was that?

They outbowled and batted many opposition teams - that is just cricket.

Pakistan took advantage of conditions they were playing in.

UAE and Australian conditions are completely different ends of the scale.

 

[MenInG]

wow so you think in Aussies conditions that pakistan essentially are one of the best two T20 sides. I can see our team struggling in the conditions and on the big grounds.

I am looking at likes of SSA and Haris Rauf to get us wickets

 

[Hextro]

Lets be honest, a win on 23rd Oct is only thing that matters. Ask any Pakistani fan and most will say they were very happy to beat India in 2021. Not many cared about the semi final exit. Everyone remembers 152/0 but not Matthew Wade, everyone speaks about Shaheen Afridi's dismissal of Rohit Sharma but no one remember his (even better) delivery to Aaron Finch.

Same goes for India. Everyone still laments about that loss against Pakistan but no one talks about the NZ game where we actually played much worse.

Bottomline is, only game that matters in T20 WC is on 23rd Oct in Melbourne. What happens before or after that is meaningless.

That's quite a weird assumption to make. Most Pakistanis were very upset about losing the semi-final. You're way too Indian centric with your view of what other people think.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I am looking at likes of SSA and Haris Rauf to get us wickets

Apart from Babar and Rizwan i cant see are batsmen scoring many runs in these conditions. On these big grounds and extra pace and bounce i can see our middle order struggling.

 

[Hextro]

They don't have the explosiveness and rely on Babar and Rizwan's consistency both of whom strike at 128 which isn't a high str rate.
In Australia this won't work.

Strike Rates in Australia -

Babar's SR in Australia is 138.55

Rohit's SR in Australia is 131.15

Rahul's SR in Australia is 112.50
__________________________________________

Averages in Australia -

Babar's average in Australia is 57.50

Rohit and Rahul's combined average in Australia is 21.6 + 25.85 = 47.45

Rizwan as an opener has an SR of over 140 in SENA with an average of 64.2 since 2020.

 

[shamaan]

wow so you think in Aussies conditions that pakistan essentially are one of the best two T20 sides. I can see our team struggling in the conditions and on the big grounds.

Are bowling attack will suit Australian conditions.

 

[James]

Need to be making the semis at the very least.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Are bowling attack will suit Australian conditions.

Our batting apart from Babar and Rizwan is weak and will be exposed in Aussie conditions. Our middle order isnt great and the extra pace in pitches and big grounds will expose that more. we cant depend on 2 batsmen to keep carrying us.

 

[Slim]

That's quite a weird assumption to make. Most Pakistanis were very upset about losing the semi-final. You're way too Indian centric with your view of what other people think.

Yup, world doesn’t revolve around India. The previous t20 WC was Pakistan’s to lose and unfortunately we did.

 

[shamaan]

Our batting apart from Babar and Rizwan is weak and will be exposed in Aussie conditions. Our middle order isnt great and the extra pace in pitches and big grounds will expose that more. we cant depend on 2 batsmen to keep carrying us.

If the platform is set then we will score around 170- 180 regularly.

 

[Amjid Javed]

If the platform is set then we will score around 170- 180 regularly.

So basically your just confirming my point we have 2 good batsmen..what happens if they fail?

 

[Markhor]

Our performances in all formats in Australia has been dismal in the last 25 years. We'd do well to make it out of the group stages.

 

[GreenKhan]

So basically your just confirming my point we have 2 good batsmen..what happens if they fail?

Fakhar zaman should do well in Australia, he has a very good record on fast pitches , like in South Africa , New Zealand . He will be key .

 

[shokz1408]

I have good feelings about making the semis at least. I’d like to see us beat Australia in the semis or final. And also to see us beat India again.

 

[shamaan]

So basically your just confirming my point we have 2 good batsmen..what happens if they fail?

No am confirming they well set the platform and then the rest of the batters will explode.

 

[PakLFC]

Anything short of being winners will be disappointing. We're in it to win it.

 

[nextover666666]

In answer to the OP:
When you inevitably lose to India, just make sure it's not a massive one

Your right we do not want to do what India did last year and lose by 10 wickets

 

[sweep_shot]

I think they should make the semi-final. After that, it can be anybody's game.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Going past the group stage would be a coup honestly considering how bad we have been in Australia for last 20 years.

 

[nextover666666]

With the asia cup squad being announced and world cup not far away. It is possible this is the squad Pakistan takes to the world cup, with maybe 1 or 2 changes.

Lets say this is the squad they end up taking for world cup what is your expectations based on this squad. For me it will be tough but i think semi finals can still be achievable

 

[shamaan]

With the asia cup squad being announced and world cup not far away. It is possible this is the squad Pakistan takes to the world cup, with maybe 1 or 2 changes.

Lets say this is the squad they end up taking for world cup what is your expectations based on this squad. For me it will be tough but i think semi finals can still be achievable

I can't see more than 1 or 2 chances to the squad for world cup.

 

[nextover666666]

I can't see more than 1 or 2 chances to the squad for world cup.

Same, and wouldnt make sense to make too many either, I think they will go based of form, and recent results of certain players, and make the changes like this, before World cup starts

 

[shamaan]

Same, and wouldnt make sense to make too many either, I think they will go based of form, and recent results of certain players, and make the changes like this, before World cup starts

Maybe Muhammed Haris,Wasim Jnr or Imad Wasim.

 

[happydavy]

I think one big issue for Pakistan in the world cup would be their fielding, which is relatively weaker than most teams. Somehow fielding in Australia matters more than in most other countries.

 

[nextover666666]

Maybe Muhammed Haris,Wasim Jnr or Imad Wasim.

Yeah something like that, However I do not think Imad Wasim will be in the radar for selection

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Pakistan will have tough run in playoffs. India, SA and WI are not gonna be easy task to beat.

 

[shamaan]

Yeah something like that, However I do not think Imad Wasim will be in the radar for selection

Maybe will get in if someone gets injured only.

 

[hitthestump]

Going past the group stage would be a coup honestly considering how bad we have been in Australia for last 20 years.

Exactly. And in the last 20 years this is a pretty average side we're taking. If Yousuf, Younis, Inzi and Shoaib weren't very successful here we aren't going to see any miracles from Rauf and Khushdil Shah.

Personally i hope we maybe we sneak a win against India if they have a bad day, but in terms of tournament expectations i have none.

 

[nextover666666]

Maybe will get in if someone gets injured only.

Possible as well yes but were would he be in the pecking order i think presently the way things stand PCB pecking order looks like this for spinners

1) Shadab
2) Nawaz
3) Usman Qadir
4) Zahid Mehmood
5) Imad

I personally would not mind seeing Imad in the team but dont think PCB will select him even with injuries but I can be wrong.

I think for world cup pak will go with 3 spinners maximum no more than that.

I think they will go with 2 and have someone like khushdil act as 3rd spinner if needed be.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Strike Rates in Australia -

Babar's SR in Australia is 138.55

Rohit's SR in Australia is 131.15

Rahul's SR in Australia is 112.50
__________________________________________

Averages in Australia -

Babar's average in Australia is 57.50

Rohit and Rahul's combined average in Australia is 21.6 + 25.85 = 47.45

Rizwan as an opener has an SR of over 140 in SENA with an average of 64.2 since 2020.

3 matches in Australia hardly mean anything, the pitches all over the world for t20s are usually flat, and we will get similar flat pitches in aus with a lil bit of bounce, Babar and Rizwan are slow players and with the unavailability of dashers in the rest of the lineup it will be hard to catch up.

Also I don't really want to get into an argument over Rohit and Rahul's big hitting ability vs Babar Rizwan, that would be comical.

 

[Cric1234]

Pakistan will have tough run in playoffs. India, SA and WI are not gonna be easy task to beat.

SA look like favourites from the group with conditions to suit Pakistan need low scoring matches 3 wins in high scoring matches is unlikely it’s a tough ask.

 

[Amjid Javed]

WI and SA will enjoy the extra pacey conditions in Aus so pakistans group is by no means will be easy. i can see pakistan flopping in group stages.

 

[Hextro]

3 matches in Australia hardly mean anything

I don't choose to ignore facts even if they went against my logic unlike you.

The facts are that Babar has a higher SR in SENA than both Rohit and KL Rahul. Rizwan has a higher SR in SENA than Rohit.

Rohit's SR in SENA - 139.59, Average - 30.60

Rizwan's SR in SENA(since 2020) - 139.62, Average - 64.42

Babar's SR in SENA - 142.14, Average - 50.58

KL Rahul's SR in SENA - 141.79, Average - 41.63

The difference in their average is comical. Rohit has never been an elite T20 batsman as you can see from his average. Boom or bust isn't a good trait to have especially in cricket.

the pitches all over the world for t20s are usually flat, and we will get similar flat pitches in aus with a lil bit of bounce, Babar and Rizwan are slow players and with the unavailability of dashers in the rest of the lineup it will be hard to catch up.

Are we talking about the same Babar that scored 122 off 59 balls in a T20 international? Or are we talking about the Babar that scored 85 off 48 balls in England? I didn't know that Babar couldn't score fast. Thanks for informing me.

Although I agree that Rizwan is a slow batsman. Scoring 104 off 64 balls isn't nearly fast enough nowadays. Scoring just 89 off 59 balls in New Zealand against their full-strength bowling lineup is an absolute joke. Am I right?

Also I don't really want to get into an argument over Rohit and Rahul's big hitting ability vs Babar Rizwan, that would be comical.

Wake up and smell the coffee buddy. Rohit and KL aren't nearly as good as you think they are.

KL Rahul is just a glorified minnow basher that plays a good innings vs decent opposition once in a blue moon. KL Rahul averages 32.16 with an SR of 133.79 against the top 5 T20 teams.

Rohit isn't a bad batsman but he isn't nearly as good as you think he is. As you can see from his average of 29 against the top 5 T20 teams. Rohit tries to score almost every ball which is why he loses his wicket early more often than not.

The problem with both Rohit and KL Rahul is that they get out early in way more matches than they actually score decent runs in.

Percentage of innings where the player has gotten out before scoring at least 40 runs.

Rizwan(since 2020) - 51.6%

Babar - 50.7%

_______________________________________________________________________________

Rohit - 71.5%

Rahul - 57.6%

 

[Cric1234]

Let’s see if Babar and Rizwan can do it at the World Cup bilaterals against mostly B teams and weaker bowling is different to the WC where all teams are at full strength they couldn’t do it against Australia in the last WC.

 

[Rana]

Just beat India and get knocked out, I could care less because beating India is the World Cup for me.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

3 matches in Australia hardly mean anything, the pitches all over the world for t20s are usually flat, and we will get similar flat pitches in aus with a lil bit of bounce, Babar and Rizwan are slow players and with the unavailability of dashers in the rest of the lineup it will be hard to catch up.

Also I don't really want to get into an argument over Rohit and Rahul's big hitting ability vs Babar Rizwan, that would be comical.

Rohit and Rahul won't be hitting much if they are forced to go up against even a half-good left-arm seamer in the first few overs...

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

What people are missing in their dim view of focusing on the last World Cup is that Babar and Rizwan love the ball coming onto their bat and that they are just as amazing on quick pitches as they are on slow ones.

Watch the way they batted in England and South Africa. Where there were pacey pitches instead of the slow ones you see in UAE. Babar smashed 122 in South Africa, a series in which he was leading run-scorer and Rizwan averaged 75. Both had strike-rates over 140 in that series. In England, Rizwan was the leading run-scorer in a series where Pakistan also amassed their highest ever T20I total. In that series Rizwan had an average of 88 and a SR of 140. Babar in that series had a SR of 152.

Mentioning Pakistan's 25 year long history in Australia is also a meaningless point considering those were completely different teams. Even the Pakistan team that last toured Australia was a vastly different T20 team.

Babar and Rizwan will succeed in Australia because they are among the best T20 batters in the world. And when you're the best you find a way to succeed regardless of where you are playing and who you are playing against.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

They need babar, rizwan , shaheen to fire to get to the knockout stage..

As always will never get their combination right and will get thrashed for that..

Pakistan will always react and panic , if first game is against India win or lose will decide their fate to be honest..

IN the last WT20 early and big win against India gave them the confidence and impetus early on and became favorites of the tounrnament who eventually lost in semis to the title winners..

 

[Nasty Naz]

What people are missing in their dim view of focusing on the last World Cup is that Babar and Rizwan love the ball coming onto their bat and that they are just as amazing on quick pitches as they are on slow ones.

Watch the way they batted in England and South Africa. Where there were pacey pitches instead of the slow ones you see in UAE. Babar smashed 122 in South Africa, a series in which he was leading run-scorer and Rizwan averaged 75. Both had strike-rates over 140 in that series. In England, Rizwan was the leading run-scorer in a series where Pakistan also amassed their highest ever T20I total. In that series Rizwan had an average of 88 and a SR of 140. Babar in that series had a SR of 152.

Mentioning Pakistan's 25 year long history in Australia is also a meaningless point considering those were completely different teams. Even the Pakistan team that last toured Australia was a vastly different T20 team.

Babar and Rizwan will succeed in Australia because they are among the best T20 batters in the world. And when you're the best you find a way to succeed regardless of where you are playing and who you are playing against.

Definitely agree, this team enjoys playing pacer unlike past teams. They are a lot better even in Pakistan where it comes on to the bat a bit more compared to slow pitches in UAE.

They do still struggle big time vs bounce however so that will remain their biggest challenge. Babar still did quite well in the 2019 T20 matches in Australia while the rest of the lineup outside of Iftikhar were horrific. Different lineup & batting order though with players like Haris Sohail in the batting lineup and Rizwan was batting in the middle order at the time. I am hopeful with Rizwan opening and Fakhar batting down will help the lineup.

We'll get a good idea of their ability when the tri-series happen in NZ.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Definitely agree, this team enjoys playing pacer unlike past teams. They are a lot better even in Pakistan where it comes on to the bat a bit more compared to slow pitches in UAE.

They do still struggle big time vs bounce however so that will remain their biggest challenge. Babar still did quite well in the 2019 T20 matches in Australia while the rest of the lineup outside of Iftikhar were horrific. Different lineup & batting order though with players like Haris Sohail in the batting lineup and Rizwan was batting in the middle order at the time. I am hopeful with Rizwan opening and Fakhar batting down will help the lineup.

We'll get a good idea of their ability when the tri-series happen in NZ.

Yeah, Fakhar is another player of will love batting on these pitches.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

A semifinal exit would be acceptable. Anything more will ve above par and not qualifying for semis would be dreadful.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Pakistan should make it to semi-final and they have a chance to face Australia there.

So, we may see a 2021 World T20 rematch.

 

[Cric1234]

Definitely agree, this team enjoys playing pacer unlike past teams. They are a lot better even in Pakistan where it comes on to the bat a bit more compared to slow pitches in UAE.

They do still struggle big time vs bounce however so that will remain their biggest challenge. Babar still did quite well in the 2019 T20 matches in Australia while the rest of the lineup outside of Iftikhar were horrific. Different lineup & batting order though with players like Haris Sohail in the batting lineup and Rizwan was batting in the middle order at the time. I am hopeful with Rizwan opening and Fakhar batting down will help the lineup.

We'll get a good idea of their ability when the tri-series happen in NZ.

You have to take into account the quality of the fast bowlers in the WC Australia were playing their best fast bowlers in the last ODI series a few unknown fast bowlers were playing on flat wickets.

In the next T20 WC the teams will be full strength that’s the time for the quick runs let’s see if they can do it if not nobody can come out and say let’s keep doing the same thing and not change the openers.

 

[Bilal7]

- Beat India.
- Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen play well.
- Make the semis.

Short of actually winning the whole thing, the above would be a satisfactory result for me.

 

[shamaan]

Possible as well yes but were would he be in the pecking order i think presently the way things stand PCB pecking order looks like this for spinners

1) Shadab
2) Nawaz
3) Usman Qadir
4) Zahid Mehmood
5) Imad

I personally would not mind seeing Imad in the team but dont think PCB will select him even with injuries but I can be wrong.

I think for world cup pak will go with 3 spinners maximum no more than that.

I think they will go with 2 and have someone like khushdil act as 3rd spinner if needed be.

I would go only these spinners in the squad and like you said 2 spinners in the xi Shadab and Nawaz

Shadab
Nawaz
Imad

 

[shamaan]

3 matches in Australia hardly mean anything, the pitches all over the world for t20s are usually flat, and we will get similar flat pitches in aus with a lil bit of bounce, Babar and Rizwan are slow players and with the unavailability of dashers in the rest of the lineup it will be hard to catch up.

Also I don't really want to get into an argument over Rohit and Rahul's big hitting ability vs Babar Rizwan, that would be comical.

If you want to get in a debate regarding big hitting then look no further than Fakhar.

 

[nextover666666]

After asia cup result

What is expectation of Pakistan team
Their is tweaking and some changes that need to be done. If the right changes are made i still think we can make semi finals

 

[asadee]

Our pace bowling alone can take us to the semis but our batting and fielding will let us down in big matches

 

[adzzy786]

Winning one game chasing

 

[Major]

Semi Finals.

To win the tournament we need good captaincy, and with babar not being removed as captain, there is no point debating. I will take semi finals happily, anything plus is just pure luck

 

[Rana]

What people are missing in their dim view of focusing on the last World Cup is that Babar and Rizwan love the ball coming onto their bat and that they are just as amazing on quick pitches as they are on slow ones.

Watch the way they batted in England and South Africa. Where there were pacey pitches instead of the slow ones you see in UAE. Babar smashed 122 in South Africa, a series in which he was leading run-scorer and Rizwan averaged 75. Both had strike-rates over 140 in that series. In England, Rizwan was the leading run-scorer in a series where Pakistan also amassed their highest ever T20I total. In that series Rizwan had an average of 88 and a SR of 140. Babar in that series had a SR of 152.

Mentioning Pakistan's 25 year long history in Australia is also a meaningless point considering those were completely different teams. Even the Pakistan team that last toured Australia was a vastly different T20 team.

Babar and Rizwan will succeed in Australia because they are among the best T20 batters in the world. And when you're the best you find a way to succeed regardless of where you are playing and who you are playing against.

Lol this is a very interesting post )

 

[shamaan]

They will get to Semi Final atleast.

 

[DRsohail]

Lol this is a very interesting post )

Makes sense, I agree with him.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Lol this is a very interesting post )

I stand by every word I said here. The only thing that's going to be interesting is the excuse you will make after Rizwan performs in Australia.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pakistan are not making it out of the group with current poor standard of so called batsmen they have in team. This T20 world cup will be a humiliation.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

We need to get rid of this mindset that its a big achievement we made the Finals or we made the Semi Finals. Cricket is not Football, their are only like 8 countries that play. Only acceptable outcome is to win the tournament, anything else is a failure.

 

[ElRaja]

will get to semi final

pak struggle most against unorthodox spinners, which is crazy considering history, but i digress

afg and sl in other groups helps, as does india not picking bishnoi, wi and as are going to have orthodox attacks.

the group is as good as pak could hope for.

will lose to aus in semi, maxwell will be the difference.

 

[Sarwar89]

We need to get rid of this mindset that its a big achievement we made the Finals or we made the Semi Finals. Cricket is not Football, their are only like 8 countries that play. Only acceptable outcome is to win the tournament, anything else is a failure.

Any sport, anything less than a trophy is failure. In tennis federer lost many close wimbledon or Australian open finals, ask him if he thinks 2008 or 2019 wimbledon was success ?

Defeatist mindset is to settle for semi final or final.
Only trophy matters.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Any sport, anything less than a trophy is failure. In tennis federer lost many close wimbledon or Australian open finals, ask him if he thinks 2008 or 2019 wimbledon was success ?

Defeatist mindset is to settle for semi final or final.
Only trophy matters.

We need to get rid of this mindset that its a big achievement we made the Finals or we made the Semi Finals. Cricket is not Football, their are only like 8 countries that play. Only acceptable outcome is to win the tournament, anything else is a failure.

Truth.

How in the world is a semfinal or final acceptable?

You play to win.

Not to make excuses before the tournament even begins.

 

[Ahmed216]

Team lacks skillful batsmen. Bowling is inexperienced. Captain is unimaginative and incapable of any serious introspection. Coach is only interested in philosophy and maintaning a cuddly dressing room environment. Coach does not want to face the hard facts.
There’s no self belief in the side we saw how after restricting SL to 58/5 there was no intent to kill the game.
I’d be very surprised if this deluded team makes the semis

 

[nextover666666]

When I started this thread, I felt Semi Final is where we can and should reach. Obviously, we want the team to win the whole tourney, but I Was trying to be realistic, now with the current result, after the England Series, and with tri series coming up, and middle order being out of form, and Australian conditions it is hard to see this team make the semifinals.

Pakistan does need to tweak the squad a bit and make some changes to better their chances.

In the event they do not make any changes to the squad (seems like it will be the case) than they need to set their batting order according to the match situation, they should not just stick with the same template, if they do that, they might have a better chance.

I still feel if they do things correctly, they can make semi or even finals.

Currently on things stand, it's hard to see this happening now.

The next few weeks will be interesting indeed.