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Pakistan bowled out for 273 in the first innings on Day 3 as England opt to enforce follow-on

ufcfan said:
Azhar Ali's haters have nothing to say now,he is the best batsman after Babar Azam in this XI
He is best player to lead Pakistan,people should stand by him in times of crisis
I bet Asad Shafiq is coming good next,they are class players back them,bring Faheem/Shadab in place of Fawad Alam
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I think u should watch less UFC nd more cricket
 
So, Pakistan need 310 runs to avoid an innings defeat.

England have enforced follow-on.
 
Mamoon said:
38 year old Anderson puts 19-20 year Pakistani bowlers to shame with his fitness and intensity.

Let’s not even talk about skill and ability which are at a completely different level.
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How many wickets will fall we still have 20 minutes. What’s your prediction?
 
such a shame how garbage our team is, cant even compete against top 5 sides
 
aliasad1998 said:
How many wickets will fall we still have 20 minutes. What’s your prediction?
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It’s getting too dark. Hard to say.

However, I won’t rule out a gutsy, hard working, resilient and full of character single digit score by Masood.
 
Azhar should come out and open with Abid. Won't be the worst move.
 
Let's see can our good for nothing openers atleast see off these last 25 minutes or 6,7 overs.
 
Mamoon said:
38 year old Anderson puts 19-20 year Pakistani bowlers to shame with his fitness and intensity.

Let’s not even talk about skill and ability which are at a completely different level.
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Unfair.He has experience behind him. Give that sort of experience to Shaheen and Naseem and I am sure they’ll do the same.

However, commendable batting from Azhar. I take my words back about him as a batsman. He must be relieved from his captaincy though. Let him play just as batsman.
 
Mamoon said:
38 year old Anderson puts 19-20 year Pakistani bowlers to shame with his fitness and intensity.

Let’s not even talk about skill and ability which are at a completely different level.
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Second bit is stupid thing to say... both shaheen and naseem have not even played 20 first class games. Comparing their skill set with a veteran of 150+ test matches
 
Mamoon said:
38 year old Anderson puts 19-20 year Pakistani bowlers to shame with his fitness and intensity.

Let’s not even talk about skill and ability which are at a completely different level.
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mamoon killing it off late. Well, tbf I think naseem and shaheen need to lay of the biryani, aloo and chappatti if they actually want to get fit.

misbah is probably fitter than half these dweebs at 45.
 
Mamoon said:
38 year old Anderson puts 19-20 year Pakistani bowlers to shame with his fitness and intensity.

Let’s not even talk about skill and ability which are at a completely different level.
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This statement is illogical because Anderson has played 155 test matches while both shaheen and naseem have combined played less than 5% of tests he has played. Completely illogical thinking
 
Mamoon said:
It’s getting too dark. Hard to say.

However, I won’t rule out a gutsy, hard working, resilient and full of character single digit score by Masood.
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Just like your beloved Imam who averaged 1 during his last test series.
 
make no mistake, pakistan would beat englsnd in u.a.e with the same team though. I mean shaheen and naseem have been poor in english conditions**. Atleast that's what I think. Not sure? can they beat England in u..a.e? I don't even know now.
 
hb787 said:
Unfair.He has experience behind him. Give that sort of experience to Shaheen and Naseem and I am sure they’ll do the same.

However, commendable batting from Azhar. I take my words back about him as a batsman. He must be relieved from his captaincy though. Let him play just as batsman.
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That sort of experience is not given. It is earned.

Do you see our bowlers lasting long enough to take 600 wickets? I don’t.

They will talk crap about seeing fear in batsmen’s eyes and then get smacked out of the team.
 
HasanA said:
This statement is illogical because Anderson has played 155 test matches while both shaheen and naseem have combined played less than 5% of tests he has played. Completely illogical thinking
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Naseem is garbage who even last for 30 Tests.

Shaheen will play 60-70 max before breaking down.

Where is the illogical bit? Anderson wasn’t gifted 155 Tests. He has earned.
 
Tmrw is looking like a full washout. Tuesday- we might get in 3 Hours of play if we lucky. So England still habe a chance. All depends if our batsmen survive today. Or we cud be 4 down tonight which will defos give match to wngland as on Tuesday- Day 5 Even if we have 40 plus overs that will be enough for England to wrap it up.
 
I don't think England will bat again.

So, this is possibly the last innings of the series (rain or no rain).
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] I'm ready for a hard-working, well crafted and gutsy 3 (18) from the talentless Masood :)))
 
What i have come to conclude is that 17 year Naseem is a better bowler than a 25 year old Archer . Given how easy a defensive batsman like Azhar Ali was whacking Archer it was embarrassing to watch for Archer. Naseem on the hand got a lot of edges beaten
 
HappyWarsFan said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] I'm ready for a hard-working, well crafted and gutsy 3 (18) from the talentless Masood :)))
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We have to wait for tomorrow. They way he will present his right pad to Anderson would be so intelligent and smart.
 
Most five-fers among pacers:
36 Richard Hadlee (86 Tests)
29 G McGrath (124)/ James Anderson (156)
27 Ian Botham (102)
26 Dale Steyn (93)
25 Wasim Akram (104)
 
this is so unfair. England should be awarded the win if it rains out. I despise test matches that get washed out especially when one team was clearly dominant.
 
Mamoon said:
That sort of experience is not given. It is earned.

Do you see our bowlers lasting long enough to take 600 wickets? I don’t.

They will talk crap about seeing fear in batsmen’s eyes and then get smacked out of the team.
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Our bowlers ball in different conditions. They don’t have so much assistance from the conditions and the ball. Plus our bowlers ball in a different climate

Why does Jimmy Anderson average around 35 when playing away?
 
Mamoon said:
That sort of experience is not given. It is earned.

Do you see our bowlers lasting long enough to take 600 wickets? I don’t.

They will talk crap about seeing fear in batsmen’s eyes and then get smacked out of the team.
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Naseem is over-hyped but Shaheen looks like a genuine talent.

Psychology is a huge factor in Test Cricket. These lads are young, should give them more time to improve, both mentally and physically.
 
Mamoon said:
Naseem is garbage who even last for 30 Tests.

Shaheen will play 60-70 max before breaking down.

Where is the illogical bit? Anderson wasn’t gifted 155 Tests. He has earned.
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Yes your statement is completely illogical and without reason because both shaheen and naseem have not hit their peak fitness which comes after the age of 25 and they both have not a 10th of experience of how to condition yourself in all conditions as a player that Anderson has. Hell Anderson has been bowling since wasim akram was still in his prime. You cannot compare Anderson to both. You can compare archer to both and archer seems to be pathetic this match . Archer was getting pulled by Azhar ali who never pulls
 
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adzzy786 said:
Our bowlers ball in different conditions. They don’t have so much assistance from the conditions and the ball. Plus our bowlers ball in a different climate

Why does Jimmy Anderson average around 35 when playing away?
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Yeah, that is the key point. Our bowlers do not have longevity because of the conditions.
 
HasanA said:
What i have come to conclude is that 17 year Naseem is a better bowler than a 25 year old Archer . Given how easy a defensive batsman like Azhar Ali was whacking Archer it was embarrassing to watch for Archer. Naseem on the hand got a lot of edges beaten
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yes but we were told archer was the best bowler in the world
 
Give it a break Mamoon, we get it, go and do something else, no one is forcing you to watch!
 
Hasan123 said:
Please can you stop quoting me with that Rizwan post.
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It's a glitch on PP. Sometimes it will randomly always quote down post from the thread every time. you make a comment. For me it's quoting one of Firebats post and I have manually backspace it each time I post on this thread.
 
Hasan123 said:
Please can you stop quoting me with that Rizwan post.
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HappyWarsFan said:
It's a glitch on PP. Sometimes it will randomly always quote down post from the thread every time. you make a comment. For me it's quoting one of Firebats post and I have manually backspace it each time I post on this thread.
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you have to takeout(uncheck) multiquote uncheck it..this happens in mobile not comp.
 
Mamoon said:
Yeah, that is the key point. Our bowlers do not have longevity because of the conditions.
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This statement would make logical sense if our bowlers have had experience like broad and Anderson has in these experience. Andersons age for example is the combined age of both naseem and shaheen. He has bowled and been in conditions a lot more than naseem shah has lived on this earth
 
Will Azhar have to open tomorrow?

It appears that Azhar took to the field with Shan Masood for the second innings, but bad light intervened.

Do Pakistan have to stick with these 2 if they have not faced a ball?
 
Interesting move that Azhar was going to open 2nd inns, guess he was feeling positive with the bat.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Interesting move that Azhar was going to open 2nd inns, guess he was feeling positive with the bat.
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He made the logical move because he was already a set batsman on the crease . It would have been a terrible conditions for him to not bat
 
HappyWarsFan said:
It’s a glitch on PP. Sometimes it will randomly always quote down post from the thread every time. you make a comment. For me it’s quoting one of Firebats post and I have manually backspace it each time I post on this thread.
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Phone or computer?
 
Kenpachi said:
It appears that Azhar took to the field with Shan Masood for the second innings, but bad light intervened.

Do Pakistan have to stick with these 2 if they have not faced a ball?
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Yes seems to be the case.

Don’t think he’ll mind.
 
England enforcing follow-on vs Pakistan:
Tests 9*
Eng won 6
Innings wins 5
10-wkt wins 1
Drawn 2
 
Kenpachi said:
That’s a shame. Would have preferred him to bat again once the new ball had died down a bit.

Oh well it may work out.
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Maybe not after all.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Law 25.2 states that the innings of the opening batsmen only start at the call of Play, which didn't happen tonight. For other batsmen, it's when they enter the field of play. <br><br>So, by Law, Azhar Ali doesn't have to open tomorrow as his innings hadn't started.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/bbctms?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bbctms</a> <a href="https://t.co/oOtD8nJu3Q">https://t.co/oOtD8nJu3Q</a></p>— Marylebone Cricket Club (@MCCOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/MCCOfficial/status/1297601767883112455?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Abdullah719 said:
Maybe not after all.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Law 25.2 states that the innings of the opening batsmen only start at the call of Play, which didn't happen tonight. For other batsmen, it's when they enter the field of play. <br><br>So, by Law, Azhar Ali doesn't have to open tomorrow as his innings hadn't started.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/bbctms?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bbctms</a> <a href="https://t.co/oOtD8nJu3Q">https://t.co/oOtD8nJu3Q</a></p>— Marylebone Cricket Club (@MCCOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/MCCOfficial/status/1297601767883112455?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Thanks for clarifying.

We will have to see tomorrow whether Pakistan do their research on the regulations or if they press on with Azhar!
 
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