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So Inzamam has mentioned today that Salman Butt could get a chance in the next A tour....

We hear that the next tour is in October in Zimbabwe.

"Salman Butt has great fitness for someone who has been out of cricket for almost 6 years; it is our intention to test him with an A tour to see how he fares in that"
 
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So Inzamam has mentioned today that Salman Butt could get a chance in the next A tour....

We hear that the next tour is in October in Zimbabwe.

For God's sake... The A team should be for younger players, not a 33-year-old who averages 30 in Test cricket. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
 
For God's sake... The A team should be for younger players, not a 33-year-old who averages 30 in Test cricket. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

And was imprisoned for cheating his country...and denied it for years afterwards...and has shown almost no remorse.
 
It's really important for the openers to stake a claim v SL. If both or one fail, it opens to door to this idiot.
 
Pathetic stuff. There are very few A tours as it is, and to waste a space on someone like him renders me speechless. He is a pathetic opener who has a huge weakness outside off-stump. Move on, stop wasting time and effort. Would rather Masood/Shehzad opened than him.
 
It's really important for the openers to stake a claim v SL. If both or one fail, it opens to door to this idiot.

Sami will perform. Not so sure about Masood. I honestly think they are orchestrating a situation where it looks like Pakistan don't have an opener and so "have" to bring him back. Pathetic stuff.
 
This is a case where I'd actually want some nepotism from Inzamam.

If you want an opener for A tours, Imam-ul-Haq any day over this snake.
 
Beautiful from Inzi. Just what the team needed a 35 year old "never-was" who has a corrupt past and doesn't fit the bill for modern ODIs/T20s and would hog a youngsters spot.


All hail the revolutionary. Best chief selector.
 
Hopefully Sami, Shan and Azhar all crack hundreds in this series and keep Butt out, otherwise it's going to be a depressing sight if he returns.
 
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Not sure why people who wanted Amir back in the side have a problem with this.

Amir will feel at home if Butt eventually makes a comeback.
 
Outright hypocrisy from Inzaman!! Pathetic stuff..... I remember when Fawad was ousted from the A squad just because he was 30+ and now this.....

Where are his holier than thou defenders on PP now ???
 
Called it back in 2016 that all of the people who were defending Amir would be the first ones to start crying if Salman Butt is to make a comeback.

Just the usual as double faced people are being exposed.
 
Not sure why people who wanted Amir back in the side have a problem with this.

Amir will feel at home if Butt eventually makes a comeback.

there are plenty of legitimate reasons why i have argued them to death so im just gonna copy and paste one of my responses

All players went through a ban period

Whether one was good or bad in your view is your view

Unless there is a clause in pcb or icc rules which specifically forbids some players, Butt is entitled to same consideration as any other

The court of public opinion still exists, additionally what irks me is when people say it’s all the same. It isn’t, it’s like saying a Major in the Nazi army has the same level of responsibility and guilt as Hitler.

It also completely ignores what level of remorse has been shown. Cricinfo summed it up best when they said Amir was remorseless, Asif was indifferent and Butt was defiant.

Don’t you feel wronged, that a person who apologised only because he was sorry he was caught, disgraced this nation and worse lied about it till the bitter end and blamed global conspiracies is now acting so entitled despite having such an average career?

Plus this is all ignoring the fact that Butt was medicore player overall.


All 3 of them were given the same verdict, the same ban of 5 years... so the court saw their offense as the same...

this false attempt to glorify Amir is considered negligible in court.. all of them were let go off, and allowed to resume cricketing activities in the same time

Which means all 3 were equally complicit

There are level of complicity and pointing that out isn’t glorifying Amir.

secondly their penalties were not the same. Butt and Asif were given suspended sentences on top of their 5 years bans, that’s still recorded and signifies greater guilt. Second, they all got varying jail terms. I don’t call that the same, do you?


Justice Cooke didn’t let Amir get away that everything was due to influence from Butt, but he did say the following


in paragraph 20 when in regard to Butt

It is clear to me that you were the orchestrator of this activity, as you had to be, as Captain

then again
As I have already said, you bear the major responsibility for the corrupt activities, along with Majeed. The evidence of the text exchange between you and Majeed in the West Indies in May 2010 shows your involvement in such activities outside the scope of the period covered by the indictment.

paragraph 23

I consider that you were responsible for involving Amir in the corruption

paragraph 24

Not only were you involved but you involved others and abused your position as captain and leader in doing so, bringing to bear your considerable influence on Amir at the very least

Addressing Amir

Paragraph 35

You have pleaded guilty to the same two offences as those of which Asif has been convicted. I give you full credit for that plea, which the Prosecution accepts was entered at the first real opportunity. Following the ICC arbitration in Doha, where you contested the allegations, you made it clear to the cricket authorities that you accepted your responsibility for what you had done, despite the situation in which you found yourself where, it seems, activity such as this was widespread. It took courage to do so, as appears from the information I have been given about pressures you faced.

Again he doesn’t let Amir completely off the hook and blame it all on Butt, however tell me again its all the same ?



We shouldn’t be rolling out the carpet for mediocre 31 year old, who is only sorry that he got caught, and is the biggest culprit.

He could actually be Saeed Anwar reborn, and if still behaved the same way butt did i would say the same.


If Amir didn’t accept guilt until every option was exhausted and then we he did say sorry , did it so begrudgingly it was offensive I’d say the same thing.

it’s for the same reason i don’t want Asif back even if he takes a 100 domestic wickets in the following season ( and he wasn’t as bad as Butt)
 
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Those who have a bhaijaan bhaijaan attitude in Pakistan cricket always find a way to get in the team.

Whether it be Younis, Afridi, Umar, Kamran, Shehzad, Hafeez, Salman etc all of them have something in common: backing from media and certain influential people. You see them often giving interviews and creating pressure for their selection.

People like Fawad and specially Sadaf despite topping the charts never get the limelight and you know why: Just because they don't have a bhaijaan bhaijaan attitude.

Asif is quiet and you won't see selectors and coaches talking about his comeback while Butt is giving interviews and doing TC in NCA and you see him on selectors radar.

Easiest way in Pakistan to get selected is to be friends with media and influential people, give interviews and create pressure and then smile and watch ;) otherwise you will rot in domestic.
 
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The main problem I have with Butt's (potential) selection is that it simply wouldn't be on merit.

It's like recalling Imran Farhat tomorrow if he has a good domestic season (and he has a highest Test average than Butt :)) )

These has-beens have had their chance in international cricket and didn't deliver. Time is up for them. Plenty of younger alternatives available.
 
I don't have problem with Butt coming back. He has done his time although I do think he was involved in shady things before 2010 incident (and hasn't apologized for that) but I don't have any proof so i will let it go.

The problem though is you don't deserve selection by scoring slow selfish hundreds. There are atleast 2-3 openers who deserve selection over him.
 
Beautiful from Inzi. Just what the team needed a 35 year old "never-was" who has a corrupt past and doesn't fit the bill for modern ODIs/T20s and would hog a youngsters spot.


All hail the revolutionary. Best chief selector.

Not unusual to see Pakistanis unable to comprehend a merit-based selection process.

Salman Butt has been the best domestic performer in the country since his return and apparently, is one of the fittest in the country as well. He deserves his shot, just like Amir did.

We all remember what happened when the last 35 year old made a comeback to the side. :misbah
 
The main problem I have with Butt's (potential) selection is that it simply wouldn't be on merit.

It's like recalling Imran Farhat tomorrow if he has a good domestic season (and he has a highest Test average than Butt :)) )

These has-beens have had their chance in international cricket and didn't deliver. Time is up for them. Plenty of younger alternatives available.

Not on merit? How? He's been the best domestic opener by far. On merit, Misbah should have never made a comeback in 2010 but he did and well, he did pretty well.
 
Not unusual to see Pakistanis unable to comprehend a merit-based selection process.

Salman Butt has been the best domestic performer in the country since his return and apparently, is one of the fittest in the country as well. He deserves his shot, just like Amir did.

We all remember what happened when the last 35 year old made a comeback to the side. :misbah

Bilal bhai you will even defend Inzi if tomorrow he selects Imran Farhat
 
Not on merit? How? He's been the best domestic opener by far. On merit, Misbah should have never made a comeback in 2010 but he did and well, he did pretty well.

Misbah made a comeback in exceptional circumstances.

Salman has NOT been 'the best domestic opener by far', Imam-ul-Haq scored 100+ runs more than him last season at a marginally better average.

Would you be in favour of a return for Imran Farhat if he topped the charts? Or do you want to select Kamran Akmal? He's been topping the charts in the past couple of years. He didn't get selected, and rightfully so. He's had his time in international cricket. The same applies to Butt.

I am a supporter of Inzi as Chief Selector but I am not going to support his each and every move, he is not infallible.
 
I'm all for this but only if he performs well enough to deserve a call up. If he can do good in the First Class season and potentially for the A team then I think there's room for him as he is better than the likes of Shan Masood & Ahmed Shehzad. The only opener in the domestic circuit who I feel is ready for a Pakistan call up is Imam-ul-Haq but there aren't too many options other than him. There are the likes of Imran Butt and Jaahid Ali who have potential but aren't ready yet to play for Pakistan.
 
As much as some will not like this. Salman Butt is still a better batsman than Shan Masood.
 
Guys, he has 2 centures in Australia, show some respect.
 
Bilal bhai you will even defend Inzi if tomorrow he selects Imran Farhat

Bhai, he's doing a great job and he deserves support. #1 in tests, CT winners and impeccable T20 record since Inzamam was appointed.

Misbah made a comeback in exceptional circumstances.

Salman has NOT been 'the best domestic opener by far', Imam-ul-Haq scored 100+ runs more than him last season at a marginally better average.

Would you be in favour of a return for Imran Farhat if he topped the charts? Or do you want to select Kamran Akmal? He's been topping the charts in the past couple of years. He didn't get selected, and rightfully so. He's had his time in international cricket. The same applies to Butt.

I am a supporter of Inzi as Chief Selector but I am not going to support his each and every move, he is not infallible.

Kamran did get a chance due to his impressive domestic performances but showed he isn't cut for international cricket anymore. Why shouldn't Butt get the same chance?

Is it not true that Butt has been among the best domestic performers (if not the best)? I wouldn't mind if Farhat gets selected provided he has a stellar domestic season beforehand.
 
Bhai, he's doing a great job and he deserves support. #1 in tests, CT winners and impeccable T20 record since Inzamam was appointed.



Kamran did get a chance due to his impressive domestic performances but showed he isn't cut for international cricket anymore. Why shouldn't Butt get the same chance?

Is it not true that Butt has been among the best domestic performers (if not the best)? I wouldn't mind if Farhat gets selected provided he has a stellar domestic season beforehand.

Kamran didn't get a chance in Test cricket despite the fact that he's scored MASSIVE runs at FC level. He's scored 3000+ runs in the past four seasons with 12 hundreds. So Inzi should have preferred him over Usman and Haris for a middle-order spot... right?
 
Kamran didn't get a chance in Test cricket despite the fact that he's scored MASSIVE runs at FC level. He's scored 3000+ runs in the past four seasons with 12 hundreds. So Inzi should have preferred him over Usman and Haris for a middle-order spot... right?

He did get a chance in the LOI formats (give me three chances as opener) but was utterly miserable. Had he been successful, he might have warranted a test comeback as well.

Amir was given a go in the LOI formats and given his success, was brought back to the test side as well.

What's wrong with trying Butt out for a series ?
 
This is a case where I'd actually want some nepotism from Inzamam.

If you want an opener for A tours, Imam-ul-Haq any day over this snake.

It's not nepotism when the guy actually deserves a spot
 
He did get a chance in the LOI formats (give me three chances as opener) but was utterly miserable. Had he been successful, he might have warranted a test comeback as well.

Amir was given a go in the LOI formats and given his success, was brought back to the test side as well.

But Kamran lit up the scene at FC level, not List A so why should his ODI form matter?

Amir performed in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy and in Grade II cricket before being selected.

What's wrong with trying Butt out for a series ?

Why not go with the likes of Imam-ul-Haq (more runs than Butt, marginally better average) and even Fakhar Zaman (just 70 runs lesser than Butt due to playing lesser matches, better average)?
 
But Kamran lit up the scene at FC level, not List A so why should his ODI form matter?

Amir performed in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy and in Grade II cricket before being selected.



Why not go with the likes of Imam-ul-Haq (more runs than Butt, marginally better average) and even Fakhar Zaman (just 70 runs lesser than Butt due to playing lesser matches, better average)?

All three of them should be tried out, especially if Azhar is moving down to three and Masood and Shehzad fail against Sri Lanka. We only have one opener at the moment.
 
I am fine with Butt being selected on merit but shouldn't Shehzad stake a claim in the Teat team first? :13:

He averages 10 runs more than Butt in Tests and is 8 years younger.

Not sure why Shehzad did not eve make the Teat team this time...
 
Inzi said he won't select 30 and over players for the A team, so how can he select Butt?
 
[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] your views on salman butt as a batsman ?
 
Sums up the talent pool we have when it comes to openers. Either this or Salman Butt has some very strong connections and has been able to successfully pressurize the selectors into including him in the 'A' team.
 
Got no problem with him but let him perform before dragging him to int. XI. He is clearly out of touch in local games.
 
He did get a chance in the LOI formats (give me three chances as opener) but was utterly miserable. Had he been successful, he might have warranted a test comeback as well.

Amir was given a go in the LOI formats and given his success, was brought back to the test side as well.

What's wrong with trying Butt out for a series ?

Then bring back Butt in ODIs first.
 
Misbah made a comeback in exceptional circumstances.

Salman has NOT been 'the best domestic opener by far', Imam-ul-Haq scored 100+ runs more than him last season at a marginally better average.

Would you be in favour of a return for Imran Farhat if he topped the charts? Or do you want to select Kamran Akmal? He's been topping the charts in the past couple of years. He didn't get selected, and rightfully so. He's had his time in international cricket. The same applies to Butt.

I am a supporter of Inzi as Chief Selector but I am not going to support his each and every move, he is not infallible.

I couldn't agree more with this post, especially the last line.

Huge fan of Inzi but I am not going to support him blindly. If he follows through on this then I would be very disappointed in him.
 
Comon Inzi.. that's just wrong at so many levels. By doing so you are telling everyone that PCB is not competent to produce young batsmen and been waiting for this savior to come and rescue pakistan who few years ago destroyed the image of the country?
 
I support this decision after watching the ATG performances of Sami and Masood, and the bonus benefit is that the hypocrites with double-standards and inconsistent implementation of moral policing are going to get exposed.
 
Butt has served his time as Amir and should get his chance and he is head and shoulders above Masood.
 
not supporting Butt's entry but that is when they have actually toured... 2017 AUS test tour was after 7 years.

I understand we don't tour them often but cannot justify decades old performances for inclusion in the national team now. More recent performances (even if they are not against Aus) should take precedence.
 
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