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Pakistan crash out of the ICC T20 World Cup 2024

Markhor said:
While it's difficult to reject the opportunity of captaining your country, Babar shouldn't have accepted it when offered by Naqvi.

Shaheen put his career at risk by playing the 2022 T20 World Cup despite not being fully fit and suffered another major injury setback in the Final. He could've easily sat out the tournament but returned to help Babar and the team - and what thanks he got.

It's mentioned the players have been loyal to Babar. Unfortunately he didn't return the favour.
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Babar did what most would do. Once he was removed, that should have been it. But when you have total clowns that have no idea about players or team dynamics, you get guys made captain and removed on whims.
 
Theo_14 said:
I wouldn’t say Amir failed miserably in comparison to the other players you have mentioned. He was one of our better bowlers alongside Naseem Shah.
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The reason why pakistan is out of this world cup is because of amir.

He ended up bowling the first super over ever. An employee of Oracle bowled a much better over than the crap Amir bowled.

Amir fans should be thankful to Rizwan, or else those wides would had gone for four had a good keeper not been standing their.
 
Major said:
The reason why pakistan is out of this world cup is because of amir.

He ended up bowling the first super over ever. An employee of Oracle bowled a much better over than the crap Amir bowled.

Amir fans should be thankful to Rizwan, or else those wides would had gone for four had a good keeper not been standing their.
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USA chocked which is why It went as far as it did.

Game was logically finished as soon as Pakistan made 160. Bowlers should be given credit for restricting it as much as they did despite usa cruising at one point

Lastly despite 19 being difficult to chase in a super over, it was 100% chasable if chacha actually let that ball go to a wide rather them coming across and dispatched the full toss on a road for a 6.

You lot come across as extremely disingenuous when you cite one reason and ignore every possible reason such as Babar’s pathetic run a ball innings, chacha's pathetic play, Shaheen's horrific drop catch and bowling, Rauf's horrific final over.

As well as the horrificly bad babar captaincy. No one told him to hide behind a pair that last time scored 2 runs against Zimbabwe. Pakistan logically lost by 10 runs and not 6, that 4 by shadab was a legbye and just a lucky 4.

In otherwords last time this pair made 2 against Zimbabwe, this time without shadab they made 4. Any score above 10 is enough for this lot.
 
Rofl at Amir Imad vs Babar Rizwan ..PCT fans even in social media are sprouting same weird stuff.
 
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Like many earlier ICC tournaments and WCs, many conspiracies worked in this WC against Pak team… here is a list..

New York pitch, fielders behind the wicket (esp. when Babar was batting), SKY & Bumrah, Indian techies in US (I.e. Indian education system), Monank Patel & Netravalkar, oracle corporation and rains
 
The best possible result for us. No fluke entry into the super 8s, no stat padding from Babar or Rizwan and no fluke win vs India.

This embarrassment was 5 years in the making . The moment Sarfraz was unfairly dropped and replaced with Babar and his gang of 4, Pakistan cricket was doomed to reach the lows it has reached

So thank you Naqvi, thank you Wahab and thank you Babar for exposing the true reality of Pakistan cricket to the public. Let’s hope we can low begin to process of reconstruction and regrowth
 
CerebralPatriot said:
The best possible result for us. No fluke entry into the super 8s, no stat padding from Babar or Rizwan and no fluke win vs India.

This embarrassment was 5 years in the making . The moment Sarfraz was unfairly dropped and replaced with Babar and his gang of 4, Pakistan cricket was doomed to reach the lows it has reached

So thank you Naqvi, thank you Wahab and thank you Babar for exposing the true reality of Pakistan cricket to the public. Let’s hope we can low begin to process of reconstruction and regrowth
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You forgot to thank Misbah
 
Major said:
So Pakistan is officially out now. The match against Ireland will be a dead rubber.

So thank you Mohsin Naqvi for bringing in guys like amir, imad, usman, azam and shadab who failed miserably at this world t20. Babar also deserves this humiliation for accepting the captaincy after seeing how Shaheen was treated.

Anyways, the great news from all this is, Babar will finally give a debut to Abrar Ahmed in an ICC tournament, and maybe Abbas Afridi will also get a game.
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Why does chacha aways go under the radar? Infact rizwan and Babar as batters have also not been mentioned. Why?
 
JaDed said:
Wins? We have only lost one game to PCT in T20 WC.. if anything Pak winning that would had been a fluke not the other way around
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Pakistan should have beaten us, they blew it. We score 80 runs in the first 10 overs and inexplicably ended with a modest 119.
 
Aamir gave away 3 wides (7 extras) in the super over against USA. Imagine if someone else did that, Aamir would have blasted that person non-stop for 3 days in the media. And anyway who's to say he didn't make money while bowling those 3 wides.
 
emranabbas said:
Ok 11 imads batted and 5 amir's bowled 4 overs each. They also fielded every position on ground and dropped multiple catches these 2 are the reason we are out of the world cup

Before these 2 got in the team we won every single series since 2021

We beat Afghanistan black and blue in WC23

We beat India black and blue too

We won the worldcup 23

we were the winners of the asia cup 2023

We won the wc22 and didnt had to rely on others teams to beat others teams to qualify

We beat zimbabwe and india in WC22

We were the Asian champions

These 2 have come back in the team and we have lost the world cup oh no 😥
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Well one of those 2, gave away 3 wides translating to 7 extras in a super over. Pakistan may not have won trophies without him, but surely Pakistan isn't winning anything with him.
 
Sympathy for the Pakistani fans. They were so close of winning both the matches. Only their timid mentality restrained them from winning.

Nevertheless, i dont think that they could make the semi even if they had reached super 8
 
This is the first time ever I haven't seen a single friend of mine on WhatsApp groups troll Pakistan after their loss to India or on their exit 😆. Shows how people look at Pakistan cricket these days.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
I am against Fakhar from a very first day... dont know who he made it to the pakistan cricket team with such a faulty cricket technique.. only performs once in a year and play all the matches based on just 1 good inning.
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Fakhar was largely responsible for slaying us in the champions tropy final of 2017. I hated him for that initially but now when I look back it was an unbelievable innings against all odds played against us(your arch rivals) in a premier tournament final. He will always be remembered for that by everybody. What has the rest of the batsmen in your team won you?
 
Don't think we will play 2026 T20 World Cup. No way this team can compete with SL, NZ, Ireland, Netherlands to qualify main round. Just like Hockey and Squash we are not good enough to enter in World Cups. Time to disolved Pakistan cricket for both men and women.
 
Need to get rid of Babar and Rizwan form T20 but life ban to Shaheen group for deliberately playing bad with no NOC to franchise crickets.
 
happydavy said:
Aamir gave away 3 wides (7 extras) in the super over against USA. Imagine if someone else did that, Aamir would have blasted that person non-stop for 3 days in the media. And anyway who's to say he didn't make money while bowling those 3 wides.
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EXACTLY,
had this been Hassan Ali, they would had blasted him. Even Hassan Ali would not had bowled this badly.

Worst super over ever bowled. The the software engineer from ORacle bowled better than him. Became the difference between the two is proper education
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Babar Azam should be held accountable. Under his leadership, Pakistan has suffered losses against a literally all opponents, including New Zealand C, Ireland, USA, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, and numerous others.
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Also a makeshift England D side managed to clean sweep a full strength Pakistani side for the limited over series in England under Ben Stokes.
 
Shafi said:
Need to get rid of Babar and Rizwan form T20 but life ban to Shaheen group for deliberately playing bad with no NOC to franchise crickets.
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I don't get why Pak fans always have to devolve to match-fixing accusations after a bad performance. It has to be the most cliché thing ever at this point and the cricketing equivalent of "ye yahoodi saazish hai."

Learn to accept that maybe some players aren't as good as you think they are instead of resorting to these childish accusations that have zero basis in reality and only make you look like a joke.
 
Do pakistan have one more comic relief to provide?

Hopefully the weather gods relent for PakvsCan.

It's possible pakistan have saved the best for the last

:lol
 
Major said:
EXACTLY,
had this been Hassan Ali, they would had blasted him. Even Hassan Ali would not had bowled this badly.

Worst super over ever bowled. The the software engineer from ORacle bowled better than him. Became the difference between the two is proper education
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If this was hasan Ali he'd be bashed like no tmr, that wouldn't prevent smart and intelligent minds to talk about other factors like we always do.

Only one track minds focus on the person they hate and avoid the person they love (rizwan and chacha)
 
AMSS said:
Do pakistan have one more comic relief to provide?

Hopefully the weather gods relent for PakvsCan.

It's possible pakistan have saved the best for the last

:lol
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Nah the match needs to get rained out so boys can enjoy a night out in Miami.
 
Aside from the offfield and captaincy issues there were a few key phases that stuck out during this WC.

Amirs super over, Rauf final over, Rizwan v Bumrahs and Imad Vs India.

But without a doubt the moment that ended our WC was the super over of Amir.
 
Sad end of the tournament for us but ultimately this was a very weak side which would have been brutally exposed in super eights.
Having bowling well to reduce India from 80-2 to 120 all out, our poor batting was exposed by pandya short pitch bowling ( very embarrassing).

Faster bowling was ok but weak against a USA side in the first 12 overs costing us the match.
6.5 overall

Spinners - so poor. shadab feel bad for him nice guy but his bowling has completely gone
Imad was average too
Score was 3

Batting - middle order of Azam Shadab, imad, chacha looked embarrassingly bad not enough skillsets
Score was 3
Too much expected off babar fakhar.

Fielding 5 - chacha in the slips was embarrassing

Total score 17.5/40

Massive overhauls is needed i’d much prefer playing a very young team and given them a few years to blossom
 
People are really going overboard here with criticism.

At the end of day , Pakistan lost against India on the 240th delivery and lost to USA on the 252nd delivery in the super over. In some other alternate reality, Pakistan would have easily defended 12 off 3 and chased down 48 off 48 sitting at the top with everyone here waxing lyricals about Babar's XI and how he managed to beat India twice in World Cups.

T20 is a fragile format and tiny things end up making a big difference. Pakistan's performance in the 2023 WC deserved far far more criticism than now..
 
Thanks you amir and imad for saving pakistan cricket ♥️

Now rizwan babar chacha ifti shadab will be booted out of the team
 
An interesting STAT would be, of dot balls through ought the tournament for Pakistan batsman, just to give us an idea of how many opportunities are actually missed/wasted, if an anyone could please sort that out, I for one would be very appreciative as I have no I have no Idea myself how to do It
Many thanks
 
Just a thought, if the ICC can allow a Tie to be a Tie then some of the scenarios will be very different. Like in this WC, Pakistan would have been on 3 points and USA would be on 4, with Pak having a game in hand.

I'm not saying this for any specific team, in general I like the concept of a tie to be a tie. Super Over runs don't get counted, wickets don't get counted, catches don't get counted, but some how the result gets counted, that for me is strange and confusing.

In all formats, a Tied match should result in 1 point being awarded to both teams. Only in a Knock Out event, like penalties in football, the Super Over should come into picture because there you need to seperate the teams.
 
Mesozoic said:
Pakistan's performance in the 2023 WC deserved far far more criticism than now..
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I don't think so.After the odi debacle and all the drama after shaheen's captaincy saga, babar and pak have to prove critics wrong.But they made a mess with nz d team,ireland and eng.After that with out any learning from mistakes and no accountability, they lost to USA and exited .There is nothing shame than this.
 
This has been a collective team effort.

Pakistan's downfall started since the T20 WC 2021 semi final.

The performances/fitness of most of the players went down from there on and kept going down to the point where it comes across as there's no desire or hunger to play for the country and the millions around the globe that still support and watch it.

Not having a stable cricket board that keeps changing every few months like a circus.

Even by bringing in 5-6 new players for the next T20 WC in 2026 wouldn't change much at all as the people running it would be doing their usual thing by keep chopping and changing.
 
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emranabbas said:
Thanks you amir and imad for saving pakistan cricket ♥️

Now rizwan babar chacha ifti shadab will be booted out of the team
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They didn't really save anything?

Bro people don't understand. They turned it into a bloodhaven war between imad, Amir and babar for the comments and this became a misbah vs Amir and inad war.

Pakistani fans wanted Amir over Hasan ali and Imad over nawaz, because nawaz was crap in 2023 and imad was more in form, Nawaz was so bad that only Joe root bowled worse then him in 2023 and Joe root is a batsmen lol.

If people had a problem, they could have advocated for salman agha over shadab, Arafat over imad, Mohammad Ali over Amir, tayyab Tahir over chacha, saud shakeel over rizwan, Haris over azam etc etc.

Their was a massive massive pool to select from. You had an entire acc cup and various domestic leagues to choose from and groom.

No one forced Amir and Imad onto you, we are not pcb doing the selecting, we are not the ones begging these 2 to come back.

However in the context of imad vs Nawaz and Amir vs Hasan ali, imad and Amir win any day. That's all their is to it. That is what it should have been.

But no let's bring in imad kicking out rizwan in PSL and let's bring in Amir thrashing babar on tv. Like who cares about that? Rizwan and babar should be booted out plain and simple, What value are these 2 providing in t20? Do they utilise the PP? Do they bat through the innings? Do they chase 180 scores? Are they overs 7-15 beasts or amazing finishers? Are they super over bang bang specialists?

They provide no value unless the target is 110 to 150 which they'll chase. Good luck on someone like butler or Warner giving you such a low target lol.
 
In a recent interview with a local sports platform, former Indian cricketer Mohammad Kaif expressed his surprise and disappointment over Pakistan's early exit:

"It's a massive shocker. Pakistan reached the final last time. They play well and have good players, but they committed mistakes and the batting didn't fire. Whenever there was pressure, Pakistan weren't ready this time. If you talk about Mohammad Amir's Super Over where he was bowling wides - extremely poor bowling."

"When Iftikhar Ahmed got to bat under pressure, the bat didn't fire. Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan weren't in good form. They were playing at a run-a-ball. They committed many mistakes and they had to pay for it. Whenever there was pressure, Pakistan totally disintegrated. They probably didn't deserve to reach the Super 8s this time."
 
In a WC where Shamsi, Zampa, Maharaj, Motie are single handedly winning games for their country, how Babar Azam has kept Abrar out for the entire tournament is beyond me.

And he keeps playing Shadab, every single game. 🤦‍♂️
 
sam_ahm said:
In a WC where Shamsi, Zampa, Maharaj, Motie are single handedly winning games for their country, how Babar Azam has kept Abrar out for the entire tournament is beyond me.

And he keeps playing Shadab, every single game. 🤦‍♂️
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This is where they went wrong and I kept saying this from way before the WC.

They handed him a debut and barely played him in 3 games and then benched him for the rest of the games before the WC.

Keeping this in mind that Pakistan didn't have a bunch of games either before that anyway and even then didn't give him games. Not that he fared badly and benched either but because they're preference was Shadab and Imad.

Had Abrar been given all the 7-8 games leading into the WC and then played in the WC, surely he would have been able to show if he's got it in him.
 
Big rethink is needed. I think it's time we accept that babar and rizwan are not fit for the modern t20 game.

Shadab and Ifti should never wear a green jersey again, Imad and Amir will probably go back into retirement and Fakhar is looking out of sorts altogether, it used to be that he pulled off a good innings every 4/5 games but now it's all duds.

Looking ahead we should definitely incorporate a specialist spinner in Abrar and give more chances to Sahibzada Farhan, Haseebullah and Aamer jamal, and possibly recall Mohammad Haris.
 
'Aapne choon-choon ka murabba bana diya hai iss team ko': Ramiz Raja on Pakistan's flop show in T20 World Cup

here's a lot of anger and dismay among the Pakistan cricket fraternity for not just the team's early exit from the T20 World Cup but for also how captain Babar Azam and his boys went about their business and continued to disappoint.

The upset opening defeat against tournament debutants USA triggered Pakistan's fall, as they went on to let a win against India slip out of their hands before beating Canada to stay alive.

"Aapne choon-choon ka murabba bana diya hai iss team ko (you have turned this team into a mixture of varied things)," said former Pakistan captain Ramiz Raja, criticizing both players as well as the country's cricket board.

"You brought back old, retired players so that somehow you save your face in the T20 World Cup...(you) let some of the good talent slip away just because this is a World Cup and it requires experience, we have to bring back retired players, even if they have bitched about the captain," said a sarcastic Ramiz, who has also briefly served as the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board.

"Aise thodi team chalti hai. Yeh pehle bhi humne kar ke dekh liya tha (the team doesn't work that way; we have tried this before)," Ramiz continued.

"I think it was the 2003 World Cup. We gathered all the super stars in that team thinking that experience will come handy. But those were ageing stars, and Pakistan couldn't be saved. We got beaten badly there as well."

Pakistan reinstated Babar Azam as their white-ball captain after he had stepped down from the post following a poor show at the ODI World Cup in India last year.Ramiz reckoned the team's leadership should be allowed "to flourish".

You have to see who to play, what is the captain's role. Unless you allow the leadership to flourish in this environment, let them take decision, introduce discipline and merit, and not try to run it (the team) from the sidelines, unless you have the cricket IQ and thinking and take good decisions morally and cricket-wise, until that time it's almost impossible for this team to get back up on its legs," Ramiz said.

"You will now find sacrifical lambs to save your place. That's not how you run cricket."Pakistan will conclude their T20 World Cup campaign with their inconsequential last match in Group A against Ireland on Sunday.

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'Aapne choon-choon ka murabba bana diya hai iss team ko': Ramiz Raja on Pakistan's flop show in T20 World Cup | Cricket News - Times of India

Cricket News: The upset opening defeat against tournament debutants USA triggered Pakistan's fall, as they went on to let a win against India slip out of their hand
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They Pakistan team members at every opportunity stated on TV "we will win the WC." why? It's like there's no group stage to get thru, no games no progress in the tournament you're just going to turn up and be handed the CUP. The words of Imam Ulhaq come to mind "I'm automatic selection".
 
Now with Pakistan not making the Super 8’s.....

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sam_ahm said:
In a WC where Shamsi, Zampa, Maharaj, Motie are single handedly winning games for their country, how Babar Azam has kept Abrar out for the entire tournament is beyond me.

And he keeps playing Shadab, every single game. 🤦‍♂️
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How many of those are playing the US league though?
 
Mesozoic said:
People are really going overboard here with criticism.

At the end of day , Pakistan lost against India on the 240th delivery and lost to USA on the 252nd delivery in the super over. In some other alternate reality, Pakistan would have easily defended 12 off 3 and chased down 48 off 48 sitting at the top with everyone here waxing lyricals about Babar's XI and how he managed to beat India twice in World Cups.

T20 is a fragile format and tiny things end up making a big difference. Pakistan's performance in the 2023 WC deserved far far more criticism than now..
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2023 performance was far worse but that doesn't excuse what they did here. Losing to USA is still an all-time low for this team regardless of how you choose to slice it. And 'what could have been' is not something anyone should ever deal in, in cricket, especially when talking about this format where the margin of error is so low. It;s a slippery slope that will delude fans into believing alot of things that aren't true.
 
Pak fans should know that WC are played on poor pitches like in NY in places like Zimbabwe etc where not a lot of cricket is played. Don't take qualification for WC26 for granted. Upsets are always possible in this format especially on a poor wicket. Remember WI failed to qualify in 2022 and Zimbabwe failed to qualify this time.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Losing to USA is still an all-time low for this team regardless of how you choose to slice it
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South Africa were a millimetre away from losing to Nepal yesterday. This format allows for some margin of error when it comes to losing to rank minnows.
 
I’m used to disappointment as a Pakistan fan but this has been extremely gutting this time around, if we were totally hopeless it would be something but it has been our own players that have just fallen apart under the pressure, we should of absolutely beaten USA (the attitude against the Americans stank to high heaven by the way) and India there is no excuses we had both teams where we wanted them!

Babar and Rizwan are just are too slow to be T20 openers they should be 3 and 4, we need to give a chance to two power hitters at the top and stick with them for an extended period. Shadab should be sent away and just play normal cricket for a year and really work on his bowling as he’s totally forgotten how, Azam Khan, nice enough guy but a total waste of a international cricketer, old man Iftikhar has to go it’s just embarrassing the bravado he shows when he’s clearly past it, I’m not that clued up on Pakistan domestic cricket but there must be some decent finishers out there!

Why Imad was allowed to come back when he never was a consistent wicket taker or run maker is just a mystery to me, the same with Amir, you made your retirement bed lie in it, your not a naive youngster anymore and that super over against USA was one that even a under 16 player would be ashamed of, Rauf, oh my goodness where do you start with him, one of the most brainless fast bowlers that I’ve ever seen, there’s more to being a fast bowler then just running in and bowling aimless balls fast, his bowling to any field is beyond incompetent and any competent bowler would of bowled different deliveries for the whole over, a wide Yorker would of done the trick for the last 2 balls, he needs to go, I also think it would be beneficial for Shaheen to take a total break form cricket for a year and really take some time out, then play domestic cricket for a year working hard ready to come back into the international side!

The only person to come away with some credit is Nassem Shah, he’s bowled well and with intelligence and his small batting cameo with modern day shots has put the proper so called batsmen to shame, he definitely needs to bat higher, what happens next is down to the PCB, I hope they’re brave enough to make huge decisions and let Kirsten properly loose on the team, I live in hope as that’s all I have, otherwise I dread to think what we’d become as a cricketing nation!
 
Mesozoic said:
South Africa were a millimetre away from losing to Nepal yesterday. This format allows for some margin of error when it comes to losing to rank minnows.
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Except they didn't. Those fine margins are exactly what distinguish the good teams from the bad ones in this format. Anyone can be competitive but not everyone comes through those high-pressure situations.
 
we need to remove tuktuk time taking players from Pakistan! We need throw that Gutter Misbah defensive mindset tuktuk. Remove players who are related to Misbah friends with Misbah.
 
Mesozoic said:
South Africa were a millimetre away from losing to Nepal yesterday. This format allows for some margin of error when it comes to losing to rank minnows.
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South Africa have won 3/3 though, what's Pakistan's record, let us say in 2024 alone?
 
Thephenom said:
I’m used to disappointment as a Pakistan fan but this has been extremely gutting this time around, if we were totally hopeless it would be something but it has been our own players that have just fallen apart under the pressure, we should of absolutely beaten USA (the attitude against the Americans stank to high heaven by the way) and India there is no excuses we had both teams where we wanted them!

Babar and Rizwan are just are too slow to be T20 openers they should be 3 and 4, we need to give a chance to two power hitters at the top and stick with them for an extended period. Shadab should be sent away and just play normal cricket for a year and really work on his bowling as he’s totally forgotten how, Azam Khan, nice enough guy but a total waste of a international cricketer, old man Iftikhar has to go it’s just embarrassing the bravado he shows when he’s clearly past it, I’m not that clued up on Pakistan domestic cricket but there must be some decent finishers out there!

Why Imad was allowed to come back when he never was a consistent wicket taker or run maker is just a mystery to me, the same with Amir, you made your retirement bed lie in it, your not a naive youngster anymore and that super over against USA was one that even a under 16 player would be ashamed of, Rauf, oh my goodness where do you start with him, one of the most brainless fast bowlers that I’ve ever seen, there’s more to being a fast bowler then just running in and bowling aimless balls fast, his bowling to any field is beyond incompetent and any competent bowler would of bowled different deliveries for the whole over, a wide Yorker would of done the trick for the last 2 balls, he needs to go, I also think it would be beneficial for Shaheen to take a total break form cricket for a year and really take some time out, then play domestic cricket for a year working hard ready to come back into the international side!

The only person to come away with some credit is Nassem Shah, he’s bowled well and with intelligence and his small batting cameo with modern day shots has put the proper so called batsmen to shame, he definitely needs to bat higher, what happens next is down to the PCB, I hope they’re brave enough to make huge decisions and let Kirsten properly loose on the team, I live in hope as that’s all I have, otherwise I dread to think what we’d become as a cricketing nation!
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Solid points, but few things, first this is PCB and banana republic of Pakistan we are talking about, everything is about nepotism and parchi, I wouldn't hold my breath for any changes. Second, we wouldn't let anyone settle in, the building period could be a year or two but who is going to stop all the tv pundits from spewing poison till we improve. Everyone is the best strategist on tv and have all the solutions, the minute they are put in charge they are even worse than their predecessors. Also, no one wants to play with Pakistan anymore other than SL and may be BD, everyone is sending their C teams, how are we going to improve without any good competition and lastly our players are more interested in CPL, LPL and BPL than playing for Pakistan and many of them like Azam are like Andhon mein kana raja and hence the downward spiral. Bad days ahead indeed for PCT.
 
Disappointing but no huge surprise really.

I thought it would be India and Ireland that go through from the group, but it ended up to be USA.

Recent form has been horrible, the brand of cricket is abysmal and outdated and the players are not good enough.
 
Asif321 said:
It all started from him removed a successful T20 captain Sarfraz . Bought his SNGPL buddy Rizwan as opener cause he knew Rizwan can’t play in middle order . Sacrificed Fakhar for him . Had issues with Amir . He is same guy who blocked Sarfraz Ahmed for years and preferred Adnan Akmal . Backed Ifti hyped him to core . Not to forget selected all his Faisalabad wolves players when he was captain only to be exposed .
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Successful?
Thephenom said:
I’m used to disappointment as a Pakistan fan but this has been extremely gutting this time around, if we were totally hopeless it would be something but it has been our own players that have just fallen apart under the pressure, we should of absolutely beaten USA (the attitude against the Americans stank to high heaven by the way) and India there is no excuses we had both teams where we wanted them!

Babar and Rizwan are just are too slow to be T20 openers they should be 3 and 4, we need to give a chance to two power hitters at the top and stick with them for an extended period. Shadab should be sent away and just play normal cricket for a year and really work on his bowling as he’s totally forgotten how, Azam Khan, nice enough guy but a total waste of a international cricketer, old man Iftikhar has to go it’s just embarrassing the bravado he shows when he’s clearly past it, I’m not that clued up on Pakistan domestic cricket but there must be some decent finishers out there!

Why Imad was allowed to come back when he never was a consistent wicket taker or run maker is just a mystery to me, the same with Amir, you made your retirement bed lie in it, your not a naive youngster anymore and that super over against USA was one that even a under 16 player would be ashamed of, Rauf, oh my goodness where do you start with him, one of the most brainless fast bowlers that I’ve ever seen, there’s more to being a fast bowler then just running in and bowling aimless balls fast, his bowling to any field is beyond incompetent and any competent bowler would of bowled different deliveries for the whole over, a wide Yorker would of done the trick for the last 2 balls, he needs to go, I also think it would be beneficial for Shaheen to take a total break form cricket for a year and really take some time out, then play domestic cricket for a year working hard ready to come back into the international side!

The only person to come away with some credit is Nassem Shah, he’s bowled well and with intelligence and his small batting cameo with modern day shots has put the proper so called batsmen to shame, he definitely needs to bat higher, what happens next is down to the PCB, I hope they’re brave enough to make huge decisions and let Kirsten properly loose on the team, I live in hope as that’s all I have, otherwise I dread to think what we’d become as a cricketing nation!
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Really good analysis. I agree with all the points. Bleak times ahead for Pakistan Cricket.
 
Pakistan weren't preparaed for the USA pitches. They planned everything for the Caribbean and came up short. Took the USA game too easily.
 
Mesozoic said:
People are really going overboard here with criticism.

At the end of day , Pakistan lost against India on the 240th delivery and lost to USA on the 252nd delivery in the super over. In some other alternate reality, Pakistan would have easily defended 12 off 3 and chased down 48 off 48 sitting at the top with everyone here waxing lyricals about Babar's XI and how he managed to beat India twice in World Cups.

T20 is a fragile format and tiny things end up making a big difference. Pakistan's performance in the 2023 WC deserved far far more criticism than now..
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Its one thing to choke against India, but to lose against part timers in the America team. That i disgraceful and Babar needs to be sacked.
 
Dost Yarri should be a goner now. Really need to get rid of hacks like Shadab, Iftikhar, Azam Khan, Saim.

Saim is a future for Pakistan but he not ready yet. Needs to go back to domestic and grind for a year or 2.

Babar should also let go of his captaincy and focus on his batting otherwise his performance is not worthy of keeping him as well.

Rizwan is somehow the best Pakistani batter once again but his strike rate is pathetic, not that bad for USA pitches overall. Needs to work on it or else good bye.

Imad and Amir might be retiring soon so gotta find their back up as well, which I am pretty confident that we have in shape of Mehran, arafat, abrar, Ali etc.
 
As per news reports there are 3 groups within Pakistani team, 1st is Babar group, 2nd Shaheen group and 3rd is Rizwan group….. every group trying to dominate others… PCB have great chance to create 3 international teams
 
This tournament is not the same without Pakistan. Two reason pak out of this wc
1.Why bring mid off player inside the circle when 5 runs required.Foolish captaincy
2.Rizwan branefade vs best bowler bumrah.If he see off bumrahs over he can attack axar patel and imad lost it by playing axr patel over for only 1 run.
 
cogent said:
Pakistan weren't preparaed for the USA pitches. They planned everything for the Caribbean and came up short. Took the USA game too easily.
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But then the team knew beforehand all the Group A matches they have to play was in USA and so they would have prepared for that. We could see both the matches they lost were close contests.
 
Former Zimbabwe captain Andy Flower has shared his thoughts during an interview with a sports media outlet, following Pakistan's early exit from the ICC T20 World Cup 2024:

“They made some quite radical changes just prior to the World Cup. They brought Babar back as captain and relegated Shaheen. They also brought back Imad Wasim from the wilderness along with Mohammad Amir. So, big changes just prior to the tournament starting but I think these changes should have strengthened Pakistan.”

“What a tough start for Gary Kirsten as a coach coming in fresh, he obviously could not mould the side. He did not have time to mould the side into a unit he would fully understand.”

“Pakistan looked as if they were panicking. Not only when they were under severe pressure but even just in normal competitive cricketing situations they looked like they were panicking a little in the field and with the ball and bat. So, they have got a lot of work to do. Gary Kirsten’s got a lot of work to do to get them back on track.”
 
Harbhajan Singh while speaking to an Indian sports media outlet:

“The Pakistan cricket team had their fate in their own hands and the kind of cricket they have played (in the T20 World Cup 2024), they were not deserving to progress (in the tournament).”

If you talk about Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Saqlain Mushtaq and Inzamam ul Haq, the greats of Pakistan who have left a legacy behind them and they now talk about the team on social media because it is hard for them to watch the condition of the team. They lose to Ireland and the USA and other teams that are not big names in the cricket world.”
 
Pakistan's performances have not been horrendous in this tournament. On another day, they would have won all 3 group games.

The bigger issue is that since the last World T20 final, the team has been awful and has lost every single bilateral series.
 
The difference in this tournament was Rizwan. He wasn’t able to score and that hurt Pakistan. Normally he wins us a few games alone, not enough to make a difference but he wins some.

He played a stupid shot against Bumrah and that cost us the tournament. He probably knew it at the time with the rubbish that was to follow.
 
Forum363 said:
The difference in this tournament was Rizwan. He wasn’t able to score and that hurt Pakistan. Normally he wins us a few games alone, not enough to make a difference but he wins some.

He played a stupid shot against Bumrah and that cost us the tournament. He probably knew it at the time with the rubbish that was to follow.
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Examples?
 
The former Pakistan selector, Inzamam ul Haq recently in an interview lambasted on team Pakistan for their awful World Cup 2024 campaign:

"This is certainly not the way a team should be selected. From No. 1 to No. 5, all are openers. It is shameful that we cannot find middle-order batters in Pakistan),” Inzamam said.)"

“This struggle is not limited to the T20 World Cup. They struggled in a similar manner in the Asia Cup as well. Asia Cup is done. ODI World Cup is done. Even in the 2-3 series after that Pakistan was never on top, never united. Individual performances was all you could see, sometimes from Babar, from Rizwan and from Shaheen. You didn’t see them perform as a unit,”
 
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