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Pakistan Cricket Board announces 17-player squad for first Test versus South Africa

I am expecting more stupidity from the foolish PCB think tank like playing Azhar at 3, Saud on bench and essentially the same lineups that get destroyed in every Test match.

I have no idea why this management even keeps selecting Imran Butt. He literally bats exactly like Shafiq and isn't even as good. 36.11 AVG in 72 FC games is so mediocre but sure, let's play him over more deserving players.
 
Even more Disappointing, they dropped Naseem shah, now he will be lost in wilderness. He should have been protected and should have been guided by the management team, on how to improve him, he has talent no doubt.
 
Even more Disappointing, they dropped Naseem shah, now he will be lost in wilderness. He should have been protected and should have been guided by the management team, on how to improve him, he has talent no doubt.

Its the national cricket team at the top level of the sport not an academy for training people
 
Its the national cricket team at the top level of the sport not an academy for training people

Who hyped him, Our so called a legendary fast bowler Waqar Bhuruwala Express. In my opinion he should play T20 and ODI format to develop himself. In cricket you always learning, in sports it’s about developing yourself everyday.
 
I am expecting more stupidity from the foolish PCB think tank like playing Azhar at 3, Saud on bench and essentially the same lineups that get destroyed in every Test match.

I have no idea why this management even keeps selecting Imran Butt. He literally bats exactly like Shafiq and isn't even as good. 36.11 AVG in 72 FC games is so mediocre but sure, let's play him over more deserving players.

It's amazing the lengths we go to protect the precious senior players. God forbid we disturb Azhar Ali's batting position for the long-term benefit of the team.
 
I would go with Nawaz over Faheem for karachi. Pindi we can consider faheem. In karachi faheem is defensive option. We need 20 wickets. Nawaz can add to arsenal and on day 4 and 5 help us win the match with all bases covered leg spin off spin and left arm.
 
Imran butt
Abid
Azhar
Babar
Fawad
Rizwan
Faheem
Hasan
Yasir
Nauman
Shaheen

This is likely lineup now. Would rather saud instead of imran and sajid instead of nauman. Muhammad wasim selected many domestic performers and only nauman will debut out of his selections. Thats horrendous
 
Its gonna be a real shame if saud doesnt get a debut

Not one new face in the middle order when there were 3-4 picked in the original squad

Why cant they just get azhar to open and get a quality mid order batter in rather than playing sub standard openers?

Typical pakistani thinking
 
Squad Breakdown:

Openers
Abid Ali (Central Punjab) - 8 tests at an average of 44.7 with two test centuries. After an exceptional start to his test career, he hasn't reached 50 in 6 innings, admittedly all of them in away conditions. Maybe he will return to form at home?

Imran Butt (Balochistan) - 72 first class games at 36.11 with 4478 runs. Not the most striking record and his last first class game was for the Shaheens in December, meaning he has not played for is regional side in quite a while. He has however played 3 games this season, averaging a shade under 32. Certainly not the best batsman but one who has been around the Shaheen set up so there could be some logic here.




Middle-order batsmen
Azhar Ali (Central Punjab) - A once exceptional batsman who seems to have rediscovered his form in recent times, with an unbeaten century in Southampton and 93 in Christchurch. On such occasions he looks to be playing on a different surface to other Pakistani batsmen. Not a popular choice but as someone who cant bat 1-4, he might be necessary.

Babar Azam (captain, Central Punjab) - The best Pakistani player, test average of 45 with over 2000 runs and 5 centuries. A home tour is a perfect way to find form after injury and this choice is a no brainer. Captain too.

Fawad Alam (Sindh) - A long term First Class stalwart averaging 56 with 37 centuries. His return to the side has had one highpoint, a century in New Zealand. Otherwise his average would be hovering around 10. The selection seems to be the need to keep an experienced head in the lower middle order.

Saud Shakeel (Sindh) - After 46 first class games, Saud Shakeel is averaging 48.78 with 10 centuries and 3000+. This is one of the better debutant selections, currently sitting second on the Q&E Trophy run score list. The left hand position may also help add variety to the batting order.




All-rounders
Faheem Ashraf (Central Punjab) - A handy cricketer who has been around the Pakistan side for a few years. There are not many elite level all rounder across international cricket and none in the Pakistan set up. This is the best possible choice.

Mohammad Nawaz (Northern) - A decent limited overs cricketer who probably should receive more chances but in the test and First Class arena he looks out of his depth. His First Class run in this seasons Q&E has not impressed and averaging 37 with the ball is not a good sign.




Wicketkeepers
Mohammad Rizwan (vice-captain, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) - No brainer and Pakistan's first choice keeper in all formats.

Sarfaraz Ahmed (Sindh) - Should Sarfaraz still deserve reserve status? An excellent servant to the game whose time should be up. What of someone like Rehan Afridi, young enough, experienced enough and a decent enough bat.




Spinners
Nauman Ali (Northern) - A 34 year old Chinaman may not be the most inspired choice but his repeatedly excellent performances in the domestic circuit are worth a shot. Experienced selections can always be useful.

Sajid Khan (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) - A very good off spinner who deserves his shot here and it may just come at the right time for the young yet experienced man of 27. A 147 wickets at a shade over 25 speaks of skill and consistency. Watching him play you see a spark of world class skills.

Yasir Shah (Balochistan) - The most difficult of choice this...do you keep your most experienced bowler or do you drop him? Shah's performances have become increasingly erratic and ineffective. Just 18 wickets at 35 in the last year speaks of a man who may be keeping someone else's spot warm.




Fast bowlers
Haris Rauf (Northern) - 3 First Class games with an average of a shade under 40 and Rauf is not a batsman. This is a problematic pick, considering those that have had to be dropped to make way.

Hasan Ali (Central Punjab) - Difficult to begrudge Ali a return, with 43 wickets at an average of 20 in the Q&E. At his best, Ali is quick enough and can reverse the old ball, picking up wickets in bunches. that best has not been seen in years but a home series in home conditions could help.

Shaheen Shah Afridi (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) - Pakistan's best young bowler and one of the very best globally.

Tabish Khan (Sindh) - A 36 year old fast medium currently averaging 30 may not be the best fast bowler to debut, certainly not in a series of this magnitude. The fact that he is unlikely to even play a game has some dark irony to it.


Omissions:
Mohammad Abbas is the stand out here. Yes he may not be at his best but it is important to remember that his return from injury has been largely in the pandemic era, travelling from one bubble to another, all the while repeatedly having catches dropped off absolutely beauties. 12 wickets at 34 is not his best but that's just 6 matches into his come back and all against teams in foreign conditions...with the aforementioned dropped catches. How does any selection committee or coach/captain drop their best pace bowler at home?

Kamran Ghulam, with so much of the chatter this selection period around the best of the domestic circuit, how does the highest run scorer with an average of 50 not make the side? This is a damning omission and a problem the PCB must look to right.

Notable names: Zahid Mahmood, Saad Nasim, Irfanullah Shah, Mohammad Wasim.

That's all from me in my first post.
 
This series could easily be that event which takes PAK one of two ways.

If the veterans of domestics get exposed well and truly (not just underperforming but doing so systematically) there may be a return to picking people on the basis of the ‘eye-test’: more discretion less of bar charts from Wasim.

Equally, a few stand out performances could lend a bit of method to the selections with statistics being used to underline most picks.

Personally, neither scenario would be overly reassuring unless we gather a large enough sample to draw conclusions about causation and correlation.
 
Squad Breakdown:

Openers
Abid Ali (Central Punjab) - 8 tests at an average of 44.7 with two test centuries. After an exceptional start to his test career, he hasn't reached 50 in 6 innings, admittedly all of them in away conditions. Maybe he will return to form at home?

Imran Butt (Balochistan) - 72 first class games at 36.11 with 4478 runs. Not the most striking record and his last first class game was for the Shaheens in December, meaning he has not played for is regional side in quite a while. He has however played 3 games this season, averaging a shade under 32. Certainly not the best batsman but one who has been around the Shaheen set up so there could be some logic here.




Middle-order batsmen
Azhar Ali (Central Punjab) - A once exceptional batsman who seems to have rediscovered his form in recent times, with an unbeaten century in Southampton and 93 in Christchurch. On such occasions he looks to be playing on a different surface to other Pakistani batsmen. Not a popular choice but as someone who cant bat 1-4, he might be necessary.

Babar Azam (captain, Central Punjab) - The best Pakistani player, test average of 45 with over 2000 runs and 5 centuries. A home tour is a perfect way to find form after injury and this choice is a no brainer. Captain too.

Fawad Alam (Sindh) - A long term First Class stalwart averaging 56 with 37 centuries. His return to the side has had one highpoint, a century in New Zealand. Otherwise his average would be hovering around 10. The selection seems to be the need to keep an experienced head in the lower middle order.

Saud Shakeel (Sindh) - After 46 first class games, Saud Shakeel is averaging 48.78 with 10 centuries and 3000+. This is one of the better debutant selections, currently sitting second on the Q&E Trophy run score list. The left hand position may also help add variety to the batting order.




All-rounders
Faheem Ashraf (Central Punjab) - A handy cricketer who has been around the Pakistan side for a few years. There are not many elite level all rounder across international cricket and none in the Pakistan set up. This is the best possible choice.

Mohammad Nawaz (Northern) - A decent limited overs cricketer who probably should receive more chances but in the test and First Class arena he looks out of his depth. His First Class run in this seasons Q&E has not impressed and averaging 37 with the ball is not a good sign.




Wicketkeepers
Mohammad Rizwan (vice-captain, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) - No brainer and Pakistan's first choice keeper in all formats.

Sarfaraz Ahmed (Sindh) - Should Sarfaraz still deserve reserve status? An excellent servant to the game whose time should be up. What of someone like Rehan Afridi, young enough, experienced enough and a decent enough bat.




Spinners
Nauman Ali (Northern) - A 34 year old Chinaman may not be the most inspired choice but his repeatedly excellent performances in the domestic circuit are worth a shot. Experienced selections can always be useful.

Sajid Khan (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) - A very good off spinner who deserves his shot here and it may just come at the right time for the young yet experienced man of 27. A 147 wickets at a shade over 25 speaks of skill and consistency. Watching him play you see a spark of world class skills.

Yasir Shah (Balochistan) - The most difficult of choice this...do you keep your most experienced bowler or do you drop him? Shah's performances have become increasingly erratic and ineffective. Just 18 wickets at 35 in the last year speaks of a man who may be keeping someone else's spot warm.




Fast bowlers
Haris Rauf (Northern) - 3 First Class games with an average of a shade under 40 and Rauf is not a batsman. This is a problematic pick, considering those that have had to be dropped to make way.

Hasan Ali (Central Punjab) - Difficult to begrudge Ali a return, with 43 wickets at an average of 20 in the Q&E. At his best, Ali is quick enough and can reverse the old ball, picking up wickets in bunches. that best has not been seen in years but a home series in home conditions could help.

Shaheen Shah Afridi (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) - Pakistan's best young bowler and one of the very best globally.

Tabish Khan (Sindh) - A 36 year old fast medium currently averaging 30 may not be the best fast bowler to debut, certainly not in a series of this magnitude. The fact that he is unlikely to even play a game has some dark irony to it.


Omissions:
Mohammad Abbas is the stand out here. Yes he may not be at his best but it is important to remember that his return from injury has been largely in the pandemic era, travelling from one bubble to another, all the while repeatedly having catches dropped off absolutely beauties. 12 wickets at 34 is not his best but that's just 6 matches into his come back and all against teams in foreign conditions...with the aforementioned dropped catches. How does any selection committee or coach/captain drop their best pace bowler at home?

Kamran Ghulam, with so much of the chatter this selection period around the best of the domestic circuit, how does the highest run scorer with an average of 50 not make the side? This is a damning omission and a problem the PCB must look to right.

Notable names: Zahid Mahmood, Saad Nasim, Irfanullah Shah, Mohammad Wasim.

That's all from me in my first post.

Here's my take

Batsmen :

Azhar: Its sad that players like him still occupying a place in Pak team. Going through the same course as were Misbah and YK in their last 3-4 years. Repeated failure then one good inning and kept their place for another two years.

Imran Butt: With not too many talented batsmen in the pipeline, not a bad choice as a debutant .

Abid Ali: Typical Pak player, scores easy runs on flat batting friendly wickets and a failure otherwise, still did not deserve to be dropped, as yet.

Saud Shakil : Has been performing well for years. I saw him live just once, not a white ball batsmen but deserves debut ahead of Ghulam because he has been performing over many seasons.

Kamran Ghulam : earned recognition with a record season, but needs to keep his consistency next season to get into playing 11. Was not even a specialist batsman until recently .

Bowlers:
Nauman : after a great season , deserved a go in home condition .

Ridiculous selection :

Tabish: very old for a fast bowler, slow and short, not of international class.
Nawaz: Not a specialist " all rounder", not for test or even for ODI, good for domestic T20 only.

Faheem Ashraf: a trundler, who could not make much impression as bowler even in helpful conditions. He has been a total failure as a batsman also until recently. A bowler who is in the team just because he scored some runs recently. Amad Butt would have been a better investment.

Sarfraz: has no future, another ridiculous selection, Roahil Nazir should have been in the squad as an understudy to Rizwan.
 
I would go with Nawaz over Faheem for karachi. Pindi we can consider faheem. In karachi faheem is defensive option. We need 20 wickets. Nawaz can add to arsenal and on day 4 and 5 help us win the match with all bases covered leg spin off spin and left arm.

I completely agree. Having a 3rd seamer doesn't seem neccesary in Karachi and Nawaz is the perfect horse for this course.

Between Shaheen, Hasan, Yasir, Sajid and Nawaz we would definitely get 20 South African wickets on these pitches.
 
Here's my take

Batsmen :

Azhar: Its sad that players like him still occupying a place in Pak team. Going through the same course as were Misbah and YK in their last 3-4 years. Repeated failure then one good inning and kept their place for another two years.

Imran Butt: With not too many talented batsmen in the pipeline, not a bad choice as a debutant .

Abid Ali: Typical Pak player, scores easy runs on flat batting friendly wickets and a failure otherwise, still did not deserve to be dropped, as yet.

Saud Shakil : Has been performing well for years. I saw him live just once, not a white ball batsmen but deserves debut ahead of Ghulam because he has been performing over many seasons.

Kamran Ghulam : earned recognition with a record season, but needs to keep his consistency next season to get into playing 11. Was not even a specialist batsman until recently .

Bowlers:
Nauman : after a great season , deserved a go in home condition .

Ridiculous selection :

Tabish: very old for a fast bowler, slow and short, not of international class.
Nawaz: Not a specialist " all rounder", not for test or even for ODI, good for domestic T20 only.

Faheem Ashraf: a trundler, who could not make much impression as bowler even in helpful conditions. He has been a total failure as a batsman also until recently. A bowler who is in the team just because he scored some runs recently. Amad Butt would have been a better investment.

Sarfraz: has no future, another ridiculous selection, Roahil Nazir should have been in the squad as an understudy to Rizwan.

Better for him to play pakistan cup than sit on the bench rohail
 
Here's my take

Batsmen :

Azhar: Its sad that players like him still occupying a place in Pak team. Going through the same course as were Misbah and YK in their last 3-4 years. Repeated failure then one good inning and kept their place for another two years.

Imran Butt: With not too many talented batsmen in the pipeline, not a bad choice as a debutant .

Abid Ali: Typical Pak player, scores easy runs on flat batting friendly wickets and a failure otherwise, still did not deserve to be dropped, as yet.

Saud Shakil : Has been performing well for years. I saw him live just once, not a white ball batsmen but deserves debut ahead of Ghulam because he has been performing over many seasons.

Kamran Ghulam : earned recognition with a record season, but needs to keep his consistency next season to get into playing 11. Was not even a specialist batsman until recently .

Bowlers:
Nauman : after a great season , deserved a go in home condition .

Ridiculous selection :

Tabish: very old for a fast bowler, slow and short, not of international class.
Nawaz: Not a specialist " all rounder", not for test or even for ODI, good for domestic T20 only.

Faheem Ashraf: a trundler, who could not make much impression as bowler even in helpful conditions. He has been a total failure as a batsman also until recently. A bowler who is in the team just because he scored some runs recently. Amad Butt would have been a better investment.

Sarfraz: has no future, another ridiculous selection, Roahil Nazir should have been in the squad as an understudy to Rizwan.

I agree with some of this but Younis Khan shouldn't be criticised. He averaged 50 or more in 3 of his final 4 years. He was still very much near the top of his game when he did leave.

Misbah, by no means a great batsman, averaged above 40 in all of his final fours and was obviously a crucial player as captain of the side.
 
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