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Pakistan Cricket Board XI v England XI | Tour Match | Dubai (GCA) | Jan 11-13, 2012

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14/0 after 6 overs. Swann apparantly bowled a very good over
 
certainly talented

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ElRaja said:
certainly talented

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thanks this was the innings im talking about.but then he couldnt perform in srilanka so they didnt give a spot in the team shoukd have been given more chances.
 
Swann has caused some real trouble to the batters...
 
Amjid Javed said:
5 drops is 5 to many! Lets hope we dont have such cases during the Test series!
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I agree :( If they had taken them, things would have got seriously embarassing for England !

Oh well, Atleast we know they are truley Pakistanis now and not imports (yes i took a dig at england come at me malakian bro)
 
Decent start in the end. Afaq apparantly survived a couple of close LBW shouts and Nasir Jamshed had an edge between slips for four.

Hope both come out focused tomorrow as well and pile up runs. Good day's play for PCB XI.
 
PCB XI | 0/22 | 8 Overs | RR 2.75 | Trail by 247 runs

Stumps - Day 1
 
Blade said:
I agree :( If they had taken them, things would have got seriously embarassing for England !

Oh well, Atleast we know they are truley Pakistanis now and not imports (yes i took a dig at england come at me malakian bro)
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Sounds like the Pak umpires gave Pakistan a couple of lives before the end. Looking forward to watching our imports grind Pakistan into the dirt. :)

Anyway, reasonable workout for the lads, not used to seeing us have such a long tail though.
 
malakian said:
Sounds like the Pak umpires gave Pakistan a couple of lives before the end. Looking forward to watching our imports grind Pakistan into the dirt. :)

Anyway, reasonable workout for the lads, not used to seeing us have such a long tail though.
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:)) I was thinking that too

Well grinding us into the dirt is asking for too much but we'll see tomorrow.

I don't know if Trott and Bell had enough time to work out though :talha
 
Looks like umpires have been giving batsmen the bod. England survived a few lbw and caught behind shouts as well.
 
Blade said:
:)) I was thinking that too

Well grinding us into the dirt is asking for too much but we'll see tomorrow.

I don't know if Trott and Bell had enough time to work out though :talha
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Bit worried about Bell tbh, i was expecting him to be at ease against the Pak spinners.
 
it is unfair to criticise umpire's decisions they are their in best position to judge,we cannot say they did not give lbw or caught behind, we have no tv pictures to judge.
 
malakian said:
Bit worried about Bell tbh, i was expecting him to be at ease against the Pak spinners.
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Bell and cook are 2 player who i think have to perform if england want to win this test series. Both are very good player of Spin. I hope pakistan can get both of these out quickly.
 
cook is in form of his life, but i believe he might strugle against off spinners Ajmal/Hafeez.
 
leg spinner did a brilliant job YASIR SHAH

Mohammad Talha another great prospect showed his skills

I seriously believe since day 1 ... that leg spinner should be included and yasir shah is knocking doors now

we should add him in the squad.....
 
sehsan said:
Bell and cook are 2 player who i think have to perform if england want to win this test series. Both are very good player of Spin. I hope pakistan can get both of these out quickly.
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Yeah, you need to get Cook out early with the new ball. If he survives, he generally makes teams pay. Where's Asif when you need him eh? lol
 
malakian said:
Sounds like the Pak umpires gave Pakistan a couple of lives before the end. Looking forward to watching our imports grind Pakistan into the dirt. :)

Anyway, reasonable workout for the lads, not used to seeing us have such a long tail though.
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Being an england fan you should be use to seeing long tails.

In 1992 series between pakistan and england the england tail usually started at number 4 :)
 
majiz said:
England confirmed for BTB? (bouncy tracks bullies)
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Average guys like Ravi Jadeja, Raina caused a ton of trouble for England in the ODI series in India.

England made Ravi Jadeja and Raina look like :saqlain :warne

I cannot imagine what Hafeez, Rehman and co will do to England.

Only thing Pak needs to be careful of is about their batting. They should never let Bounce Track Bullies like Broad, Anderson to bully them.
 
adnan yasin said:
dont worry we might see broad in the playing 11 against pakistan

serious doubt on anderson selection ....
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Broad was easily the best bowler on either side the other day, Jimmy bowled ok as well, both will play.

AnotherIndian said:
Average guys like Ravi Jadeja, Raina caused a ton of trouble for England in the ODI series in India.

England made Ravi Jadeja and Raina look like :saqlain :warne

I cannot imagine what Hafeez, Rehman and co will do to England
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Yeah, because ODI cricket is completely the same as test cricket.
 
PCB should have selected Zulfiqar Babar for this match instead of Raza Hasan.
 
Watched the day's play today at the GCA. Pakistan bowled well. Apart from Prior and Cook, none of the English batsmen played well.

Our openers were a bit shaky against all the bowlers. Jamshed played and missed a lot against Swann, Afaq was beaten quite a few times by Onions.
 
FreePalestine said:
Watched the day's play today at the GCA. Pakistan bowled well. Apart from Prior and Cook, none of the English batsmen played well.

Our openers were a bit shaky against all the bowlers. Jamshed played and missed a lot against Swann, Afaq was beaten quite a few times by Onions.
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How was Talha's speed? would u say express?
 
srh said:
PCB should have selected Zulfiqar Babar for this match instead of Raza Hasan.
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Why? I thought Raza Hasan has been at the fringes more closely than Zulfiqar.

Just curious to understand your rationale behind it.
 
malakian said:
Broad was easily the best bowler on either side the other day, Jimmy bowled ok as well, both will play.


i have doubt on anderson bowling performance over here in middle east but no doubt about broad

but england batting need to pull up their socks no 300 so far and 1 under 200 score is a worry sign ... because their full batting line up was playing

leg spinner today really trouble them
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I see today as a further selection opportunity for Pakistan. It reminded me that England have always been weak against leg-spinners. They generally do okay against off-spinners, with the exception of Murali, who is of course an exception in many ways.

Cook meanwhile...wow. No need to say much is there?
 
just checked the score card. very good performance by young Lads. Yasir Shah and Talha are stand out performers. looking forward for some good innings from batters. :14:
 
Whippy said:
I see today as a further selection opportunity for Pakistan. It reminded me that England have always been weak against leg-spinners. They generally do okay against off-spinners, with the exception of Murali, who is of course an exception in many ways.

Cook meanwhile...wow. No need to say much is there?
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I remember predicting before the Pak squad was announced that if PCB select Kaneria in the squad then Pak will beat England in the test series. PCB has missed the boat.
 
adnan yasin said:
malakian said:
Broad was easily the best bowler on either side the other day, Jimmy bowled ok as well, both will play.


i have doubt on anderson bowling performance over here in middle east but no doubt about broad

but england batting need to pull up their socks no 300 so far and 1 under 200 score is a worry sign ... because their full batting line up was playing

leg spinner today really trouble them
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I have no doubt about Jimmy's selection. He'll keep things tight, and he's the cleverest quick from either side, he's invaluable to the team.
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Crap by Trott and Bell, they know what to do. KP hit a smidgen of form, Strauss was crap but had a good showing last game. Should all pull together. And ofcourse Onions and Panesar are inferior batsmen to Broad and Anderson (I believe it goes Finn>Anderson>Tremlett>Bunny>Panesar in terms of batting skill) so thank god for a shortish tail in the real game.
 
Khalil failing. I don't rate him as many of the domestic players. The common opinion by the players about him that he performs well on green pitches and early on the day when the pitch has moisture and is wet(under prepared pitch) he gets his seam and swing. On flat tracks with the pace of 130-133 kph he is pretty much ordinary.

Talha living up to the hype. Taking wickets of some fantastic players and Yasir Shah surprised us with a 5fer. Waiting for our batting to give a cracking answer to the English bowling unit :)
 
^you think Talha is now ready for international cricket? Who will he replace. I think Cheema.
 
This was a great opportunity to test our bench strength, Hope one of the batsmen makes a big score tomorrow as well.
 
srh said:
^you think Talha is now ready for international cricket? Who will he replace. I think Cheema.
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For me, Talha has performed beyond my expectations in this match. If Aizaz Cheema fails to make an impression in the 1st test than I will definitely give the chance to him. Talha has some issues with his line and length. It will be the pace and extra bounce that can cause trouble for England.
 
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ayub is the one I am looking forward to follow. have read good things abt his batting.
 
Tremlett too, come on, some more inroads. Lets win this. If England win this game, I will have no doubts of winning the series.
 
Ruri said:
Tremlett too, come on, some more inroads. Lets win this. If England win this game, I will have no doubts of winning the series.
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why? you won't be facing this team in the actual thing. While this team is at least facing England's first choice batting team.

If you win it won't matter. If you lose however, especially because if it's because of your batting (as this bowling attack probably won't play in the real series), then it's a cause for concern.
 
really like how they have given chances to Raheem , Salahuddin and Ayub. Fawad and Sarfraz were a given.
 
ads101 said:
why? you won't be facing this team in the actual thing. While this team is at least facing England's first choice batting team.

If you win it won't matter. If you lose however, especially because if it's because of your batting (as this bowling attack probably won't play in the real series), then it's a cause for concern.
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If we win this, means that we have prepared well with a second choice bowling attack, and preparation to me is more important than any other factor.

A well prepared England is frightening, I'm less than amused by a undercooked England that can go either way. The only variable that worries me is rust, and if they win this, and have shaken of that rust, I fully expect England to do well.

England to me are like Slayers_MMA in the game Starcraft 2. Talented and all, but not the most talented player(s) in the world. However, they have the best preparation and hardwork, they plan to beat teams and opponents well. And if they are prepared, I fully expect them to win.
 
ads101 said:
why? you won't be facing this team in the actual thing. While this team is at least facing England's first choice batting team.

If you win it won't matter. If you lose however, especially because if it's because of your batting (as this bowling attack probably won't play in the real series), then it's a cause for concern.
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Besides, while Saeed Ajmal is brilliant, the leggie yesterday was always slated to rip through England. As I said, England's all about preparation. They analyze every detail of the opponent's action and bowling, even if they are clueless against spin and legspin in general. A relative unknown is always going to do really well against England. Probably why Riaz's only success in Tests has been his first match against England. I expect England to score in excess of 300 with more effort during the actual tests since they will have learned from footage and their batting machines how to pick the variations, or atleast deal with them.
 
Looks like going to be 150 all out and :misbah doesn't like the runrate at all. This ayub guy is a class stuff , shame came good too late.
 
Ruri said:
Besides, while Saeed Ajmal is brilliant, the leggie yesterday was always slated to rip through England. As I said, England's all about preparation. They analyze every detail of the opponent's action and bowling, even if they are clueless against spin and legspin in general. A relative unknown is always going to do really well against England. Probably why Riaz's only success in Tests has been his first match against England. I expect England to score in excess of 300 with more effort during the actual tests since they will have learned from footage and their batting machines how to pick the variations, or atleast deal with them.
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This is Pakistan's second choice batting team. Success by your second choice English bowling attack does not say anything on how they would cope with our first choice batting team. They're a lot more prepared, used to facing a tougher bowling attack, and have in general more overall experience. A better representation was probably your success against the combined associates where your bowlers (your first choice attack) convincingly bowled out the opposition for low totals.

You can have theories on how england might be more prepared, but really the best indicator for success is the form of your players. Not the performance of bowlers who won't even play in the test series. England seems to have rested their bowlers anyway, probably because they were happy with their form in the associates match.

You can only prepare so much. It's a lot easier to prepare in English conditions too. There isn't a huge amount of proof England have shaken off the rust in their batting team yet. Even if they fail in this match, they could do well in the actual series anyway. But a good performance by the batting team would give a lot of confidence going into the actual thing.

You mention Riaz, but you only faced him twice. First time he did very well against him. Second time, you actually only faced him in one innings NOTW stuff was going on and general distractions amongst the team. Not that that needs to be an excuse, fact is Riaz has only faced you in 2 tests, matchwinning performance in one with an overall average of around 27. Which isn't bad. You faced Amir and Asif several times, but they still caused problems to you time and time again, you'd didn't exactly work them out.

England's preparation and hard work helps them, but as I said, from this match the main thing England will want to see is good batting form from their batsmen. And even then, the success of our second team won't show too much how our first team will perform.
 
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