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It has been mentioned a lot of times here on the forum that this forum is read by past/current players, coaches and commentators. So I believe that we as cricketing fans should actually try to make a difference by posting valid and sensible solutions to the current malaise of Pakistan cricket rather than simply being emotional over our state of cricket, rant over a few matches and move on to another rant over another match. Doesn't benefit anyone. If we have this incredible platform to air our concerns than why not do it in a way that can trigger some change hopefully. Also it would be better if we could create just one thread and have all of our opinions/solutions concentrated here so that it becomes easier for someone to read the views of Pakpassion and who knows, somebody from the higher ups might implement one of our solutions.

So starting off, here's my overall take on how we need to change our cricketing woes.

1. Create a vision, good team selection automatically follows

Firstly, no individual or company has ever succeeded in life without a vision. Similarly our cricket needs a vision too which we are completely devoid off at the moment. We need to take the example of England who at the 2015 World Cup were even worse than us. However, after the World Cup there fortunes completely changed because they identified players who did not fit in with their vision of modern cricket. Therefore players like Ballance, Bell, Broad and Anderson were shown the door in ODI cricket. We need to do the same and realize that if we have to move forward in our ODI cricket and fit in with this modern cricketing vision, there are players you need to let go off. Have no sentimentality regarding this. We are stuck in this seniority culture that is ruining us. Our thought process is stuck in trying to win a few matches here and there against a big side or a series and we are happy with it. There needs to be a progression towards an underlying goal and the underlying goal cannot be to just win a series against Australia believing we are on an upwards trajectory. The underlying goal has to be Top 3 in world cricket.

2. Remove the fear of getting dropped

I might get roasted on this but I still feel Ahmed Shehzad is one of the guys who can become an integral part of our modern cricket. The fact that he consumes so many dot balls is simply because of his fear of getting dropped. He is playing for a score and he's letting that get in the way of the team's situation. Right now apart from Shoaib Malik, he's the only batsman in our top 6 who can get you a 50 in 20 balls. You can't say that about Azhar, Babar, Hafeez, Sarfraz. Heck you can't say that about your hitters at the end. Why Shehzad doesn't do it is because he's afraid of getting out and consequently getting dropped. Have we ever analyzed why Shehzad is terrific in PSL and ordinary in Pakistan colors. A major reason is that he doesn't fear of getting dropped in the Quetta team because he knows he's assured of his place even if he scores single digits score for 5 games. We need to give all of our batsmen this luxury that whatever you do, you're not getting dropped for the next 3-4 series. But play according to the team's requirement. The selection committee will come under massive pressure from the media but this is where you need steely emotions and resolve to ignore them.

3. Players need to be taught match awareness

I believe we are possibly one of the worst teams in cricket when it comes to match awareness. In simple layman terms we are stupid on the field. Our players don't understand the changing dynamics of the match as it goes on. If one of our batsman goes into an attacking mode, he will attack their best bowler too when all is required is to see out his 2-3 overs if he's been brought back to take a wicket. If the pitch is slow and slower balls is making hitting extremely difficult, you will see Wahab trying to bowl at 150 kph. This level of naivety needs to be done away with. I don't know if this has to do with lack of education generally or that our players haven't developed any critical thinking skills in their lives but something needs to change ASAP. You just need to listen to some of the interviews of Indian players and you can immediately see how they are assessing the game. Our players have learnt just two things "Coach/Captain gave me confidence" and "I just played my natural game". Every question is answered with these two underlying remarks. Cringeworthy.

4. Domestic pitches need to be revamped

Once you accept that ODI and T20 is simply a batsman's game now, you will start making pitches that are conducive to power hitting. There isn't one batsman in our domestic who can hit consistently without getting out. Also once we have flat batting wickets, we'll develop good fast bowlers too. I remember Wasim, Imran, Waqar all saying that domestic pitches during their time were so against the bowlers that in order for them to succeed they needed to become different and not become line and length trundling bowlers.

I have many other points to say but I think this a long post anyways so will follow up later. Please feel free to share solutions/opinions but please nothing like sack him or sack that person from the management. Sacking would be like treating cancer with aspirin. We have to weed out the cause.
 
one thing which is not being discussed is the role of batting coach grant flower, who is stuck with this team for centuries without bringing any improvement in technique, rather i feel under his coaching method some of our natural stroke players have gone too defensive and limited. further the bowling coach azhar is also not being at par as since his introduction the discipline in bowling is questionable. just watch how he is treating shahad for instance, shahdab was booming with confidence and attacking approach under waseem akrams guidance in PSL and carried the same confidence in the initial T20s played in national colors, but since than his approach is also getting limited and defensive -
 
Good points. At least someone wants to touch upon much deeper issues regarding Pakisan Cricket. Everyone else seems fixed on 'Oh this guy wasn't selected' or 'Captain failed to do that in second over' or 'batting order should have been like this' or 'coaches are not working' yada yada...We need to address the bigger picture and understand the decline of cricket and interest in younger generation.

I tend to agree with all 4 points you gave. In addition to that, I would like PCB to sponsor school tournaments, invest in cricketing infrastructure at schools/colleges. Just try to re-ignite interest somehow. Why would a pre-teen today pick up a bat/bowl? There are no inspirational wins of recent, no star player to look up to, no cricket at home at all. Somehow the interest has to revived.
 
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Good points you have made....

Have confidence in your players. Make a core bunch.

And players like shehzad and wahab should stay away. I would say find some players from domestics and nurture them. Like fahim ashraf.

Fitness is another thing. Hire some personal fitness caretakers for players who keeps a watch on what they eat and what they exercise. Lower body exercise is more important than weight lifting for athletes...

This team really lacks motivation. And captain has a big role in it. Sarfaraz needs to stop behaving annoyed when any player makes mistakes. He need to lead by example. Sarfaraz needs to stay calm.
 
Bring back the Akmals. Only joking.

England more or less changed overnight after the last WC shambles. They got rid of players like Cook, Bell, Broad, Anderson and Ballance and bought in young hungry players. All these players that they dropped are scoring runs and taking wickets for fun domestically but Morgan is not interested in having them back.

We need to find new players and give them the tools to play expansive cricket. At times we will get hammered but as long as the intent is there the players will learn and get better and better.
 

There is two solution:

1. No coach at all. Why bother wasting money if you keep selecting same players and can't even score 170+ against average bowling in super flat track and bowlers loose control in every over, fielders can't catch.

2. Get rid of current batch of coaches, Inzamam co (Most bias) and most of the passengers from the team. Select young players base on merit. Get Moody as head coach, Arnold/De Silva as batting coach, Vass/Pont/Donald/Gillepse/... as bowling coach, Julien Fountain as fielding coach and a get proper foreign physiotherapist. That's it. No more coaches or stuffs for the team

I highly doubt anything will change even after all 3 losses
 
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Dont agree with point 2.
Point 4 matters most.
And a logical extension of point 4, is to select players who perform on these flat pitches.
and put hafeez and malik to pasture. you dont build a team on losers
 
Bring back the Akmals. Only joking.

England more or less changed overnight after the last WC shambles. They got rid of players like Cook, Bell, Broad, Anderson and Ballance and bought in young hungry players. All these players that they dropped are scoring runs and taking wickets for fun domestically but Morgan is not interested in having them back.

We need to find new players and give them the tools to play expansive cricket. At times we will get hammered but as long as the intent is there the players will learn and get better and better.


Agree , An english ODI revolution is required
 
This topic has been literally beaten to death time and time again for the last 10 years on PP..... At the end of the day we all come back to square one and nothing changes.

I can practically write a 5000 word research paper on how things can be made better for PCB however, there would be zero implementation of the said ideas and we'll do the same exact blunders that we've been doing since God knows when.

The only real change that anyone has ever brought into the PCB setup has been Abdul Hafeez Kardar during the 1970s and how he progressively laid the foundation of the domestic structure that we see today but even after so many of such services he resigned due to the incompetence of the PEOPLE AROUND HIM.

You want to change Pakistan Cricket - FIRE EVERYONE IN PCB, chaprasis, peons, security guards, top brass, management, trainers, coaches, consultants, EVERYONE including regional fringe staff as well and scrap the whole bloody thing to bits. Start from the ground up and rehire people and support staff solely on merit and those that actually know how to run a business.

India have made cricket a matter of their foreign policy and we're still stuck in a time warp where we cannot decide who should play and who shouldn't :facepalm:
 
Bring back the Akmals. Only joking.

England more or less changed overnight after the last WC shambles. They got rid of players like Cook, Bell, Broad, Anderson and Ballance and bought in young hungry players. All these players that they dropped are scoring runs and taking wickets for fun domestically but Morgan is not interested in having them back.

We need to find new players and give them the tools to play expansive cricket. At times we will get hammered but as long as the intent is there the players will learn and get better and better.

Yes, England is a great example for Pakistan. They were a worse team than Pakistan a couple of years ago but now, are arguably the best.

It really isn't hard. We have Fakhar and Haris in this squad itself. Bring them in for the two biggest batting culprits of the last game, Azhar and Hafeez, and you have a much better batting lineup. Had Sharjeel still been available and Akmal not thrown away another opportunity, this team would improve even further. The bowling is good but needs to be more disciplined.

Yes, the domestic structure has to be improved as well but just a couple of changes to the team would help immensely as well.
 
This topic has been literally beaten to death time and time again for the last 10 years on PP..... At the end of the day we all come back to square one and nothing changes.

I can practically write a 5000 word research paper on how things can be made better for PCB however, there would be zero implementation of the said ideas and we'll do the same exact blunders that we've been doing since God knows when.

The only real change that anyone has ever brought into the PCB setup has been Abdul Hafeez Kardar during the 1970s and how he progressively laid the foundation of the domestic structure that we see today but even after so many of such services he resigned due to the incompetence of the PEOPLE AROUND HIM.

You want to change Pakistan Cricket - FIRE EVERYONE IN PCB, chaprasis, peons, security guards, top brass, management, trainers, coaches, consultants, EVERYONE including regional fringe staff as well and scrap the whole bloody thing to bits. Start from the ground up and rehire people and support staff solely on merit and those that actually know how to run a business.

India have made cricket a matter of their foreign policy and we're still stuck in a time warp where we cannot decide who should play and who shouldn't :facepalm:

If only what you say was even a little realistic. You don't just fire everyone in an organization. Replace the Chairman if need be, bring in someone honest and qualified and the corruption will slowly be rooted out.
 
This topic has been literally beaten to death time and time again for the last 10 years on PP..... At the end of the day we all come back to square one and nothing changes.

I can practically write a 5000 word research paper on how things can be made better for PCB however, there would be zero implementation of the said ideas and we'll do the same exact blunders that we've been doing since God knows when.

The only real change that anyone has ever brought into the PCB setup has been Abdul Hafeez Kardar during the 1970s and how he progressively laid the foundation of the domestic structure that we see today but even after so many of such services he resigned due to the incompetence of the PEOPLE AROUND HIM.

You want to change Pakistan Cricket - FIRE EVERYONE IN PCB, chaprasis, peons, security guards, top brass, management, trainers, coaches, consultants, EVERYONE including regional fringe staff as well and scrap the whole bloody thing to bits. Start from the ground up and rehire people and support staff solely on merit and those that actually know how to run a business.

India have made cricket a matter of their foreign policy and we're still stuck in a time warp where we cannot decide who should play and who shouldn't :facepalm:

I agree with you on the fact that the topic has been literally beaten to death but I believe you can't stop trying. You cannot lose hope. I for one know I cannot bring a change physically because I don't have the resources or the power to effect that change. But I do have this forum to voice my concerns. And I feel all of us should keep raising these issues and keeping them relevant time and time again given that some people who have the power do read this forum.

However, I don't agree with you on firing everyone. That's a very naive approach. I am a staunch believer in evolution and not in revolution. We have to evolve.
 
If only what you say was even a little realistic. You don't just fire everyone in an organization. Replace the Chairman if need be, bring in someone honest and qualified and the corruption will slowly be rooted out.

I agree with you on the fact that the topic has been literally beaten to death but I believe you can't stop trying. You cannot lose hope. I for one know I cannot bring a change physically because I don't have the resources or the power to effect that change. But I do have this forum to voice my concerns. And I feel all of us should keep raising these issues and keeping them relevant time and time again given that some people who have the power do read this forum.

However, I don't agree with you on firing everyone. That's a very naive approach. I am a staunch believer in evolution and not in revolution. We have to evolve.

I guess the usage of the word fired was syntactically incorrect here however what I do believe is that we need an independent body that vets the competence of the entire board and everyone associated with it in any way possible. While this would take place we need to suspend the these officials temporarily and start from the ground up.

If we genuinely and honestly do this, I firmly believe that we'd probably end up replacing 80% of the working managerial staff and other personnel in the entire PCB. We have to make changes one way or the other. You can't root out corruption from a system if you don't completely revamp everything associated with it.
 
With the exception of 2 or 3 games point 2 is redundant, Shehzad was atrocious in general at the PSL too. He is too limited at International cricket and there are only so many chances you can give a guy before realising it's best for all parties to move on.

I agree with point 3 but using Wahab Riaz as an example is wrong. Express speed with accuracy is a lethal combination but he's not express, he may produce the odd quick delivery or two a game but that he's express is built on that one spell against Watson which was an anomaly. The biggest problem with him is his radar, you can't bowl both sides of the wicket and expect to get away with it, you don't at club level and you certainly don't at International level.

That he keeps getting selected is a testament to the low standards and seniority which is crippling our cricket for over a decade now.

The rest of your points brilliant and need to be implemented immediately BUT sadly we have been there after every tournament, embarrassed and humiliated and nothing changes. The same losers always make their back.
 
one thing which is not being discussed is the role of batting coach grant flower, who is stuck with this team for centuries without bringing any improvement in technique, rather i feel under his coaching method some of our natural stroke players have gone too defensive and limited. further the bowling coach azhar is also not being at par as since his introduction the discipline in bowling is questionable. just watch how he is treating shahad for instance, shahdab was booming with confidence and attacking approach under waseem akrams guidance in PSL and carried the same confidence in the initial T20s played in national colors, but since than his approach is also getting limited and defensive -

agree on Grant Flower, can't see much work he has done with the batsmen. heard Eoin Morgan the other day saying Joe Root is working on his power hitting, why can't grant flower work with the likes of Azhar and Babar and improve aspects of their game?! Azhar looks very ungainly when slogging.
 
1. Pakistan first needs to create a vision and should pick skill players accordingly. They can take a leaf out of the shorter format revolution of England since WC 2015.
2. Pakistan needs to fix their batting order and assign roles.
3. Needs better fielding

The team should be:

1. Azhar
(Honestly he can score runs but I can say he's the Pak version of Ian Bell. Bell was scoring runs in shorter formats. But he wasn't an aggressive batsman enough to match the vision. So, Eng went for attacking opener in Hales or Roy. I would still give Azhar the remaining CT matches to justify his place and show he can score at a decent strike rate. Sharjeel is a big miss here. Otherwise Shahibzada Farhaan/Kamran Akmal/Awais Zia/Mukhtar Ahmed can be consider. I don't have much faith in Awais or Mukhtar in ODIs though. Umar Akmal as an opener can be an option too.)

2. Fakhar

3. Babar
(He needs to be a star in the future. He has to be the PAK version of Root/Williamson/S Smith)

4. Malik
(Malik should definitely come up at 4. He's not a finisher which Mickey Arthur thought. He has intent and can play the big shots, PAK version of Morgan)

5. Sarfraz
(As an aggressive player, he has to come at 5 and be PAK version of Buttler. Only Rizwan is his alternative)

6. Hafeez/U Akmal/Haris
(Now, Hafeez's role should be told to him. He can't make the team only as a batsman and open the batting or bat at 4. For me, he can play as an allrounder and should bowl his off spin. Not sure, whether he can be productive at 6 as he's not a big hitter. If not Hafeez, then U Akmal needs to slot in if U Akmal isn't playing as an opener)

7. Faheem/Imad
(Faheem should come in at 7 according to me)

8. Amir
(Amir should start to learn a bit of batting as well so that he can be slotted at 8. He should role model Wasim Akram)

9. Shadab

10. Junaid

11. Hasan

Regarding Captaincy:

Honestly I wasn't impressed with Sarfraz captaincy. I will give him the remaining CT matches but I'm unsure about his captaincy. Opening the bowling with Imad & not bowling Hafeez at all were blunders. Other than, Hafeez & Malik there are no alternatives. Babar can be groomed for future captaincy. Hafeez is tactically sound but his place in the team remains a concern. Malik I think has good captaincy record but I didn't like him as captain during his stint because he didn't want superstar like Shoaib Akhtar in his team. It was only when Afridi was made captain, Shoaib was brought back by Afridi.)

Regarding Coach:

Head coach: I'm unsure about Mickey Arthur as coach. I will give the remaining CT matches to him as well. I think Tom Moody or Dean Jones can be a better coach.

Batting coach: Unsure about Grant as well. Siddons as batting coach is a good option but unsure whether he can do the job as he's the head coach of South Australia.

Bowling coach: Unsure about Mahmood. Allan Donald who's with SL probably is the best option. Ian Pont or Kabir Khan I believe can do a job.

Fielding coach: Pak needs to sort out their fielding. A specialized fielding coach is required. Rhodes will be the best or Fountain.
 
Domestic has to be revamped so it has a purpose and is competitive
Start of with a tour of all youngsters against WI or SL so we can see who are the top players we have. Take all the top domestic performers under the age of 26/28 and give them all a series or two to prove they can make it into the national team for good.
Hopefully this would increase the pool of players we can select from, because at the moment we have a very narrow pool.
Ask players to perform or be at risk of being dropped. I think this hard policy would work for Pakistan as they all perform when they are about to get kicked out. Every player must be set clear targets- I.E. 50 at good SR for batsmen and 3 wickets at a good economy etc. Every player would know what their roles are through this process and captain and coach can dictate this. The key is this:
fail to hit your targets for 3 consecutive games and you are dropped to bench. If you are dropped twice in the space of 3 months, you head back to domestic to prove yourself. If you are dropped 5 times, expect to sit out for atleast a year and until consistent domestic performances you won't be selected again
Also any player who has played 100+ games and is still not winning games for the team needs to be dropped until they can prove they are match winners in domestic. You rather have youngsters in the squad who give it their all, rather than seniors who won't improve.
Have tours for youngsters on regular basis to different parts of the world so they can get used to different conditions. Again this will ensure we have a group of players we can call up at any time and they are prepared at the highest level.
This isn't essential but need to utilise the PSL platform. Have to hold a mini PSL during the year (in Pakistan if you want), where only U-23 players of each squad play alongside any players the teams find in talent hunts. This has to be broadcasted and played to a standard similar to the actual PSL. This will provide fans with opportunities to watch PSL and chance to groom younger talent. Top performers from here, should go on to the tours I mentioned above.
Finally, have your retired legends working with the national side and domestic set up. You want to be as good as India, then copy everything good India does. Wishing Pakistan and Pakistan cricket the best of luck for the future
 
Reduce the governmental interference in the board !

The excessive government/political control over PCB is what propagates the Sifarishi culture that exacerbates all your other issues.

Thee BCCI even though it contains a lot of politicians, was still a private body that was Purely profit minded. Nothing brings more profit (legally) than the team doing well. Hence since the Sachin era, BCCI had heavily invested in revamping the domestics and providing good infrastructure & facilities.

The sifarishi culture exists here too but limited to mostly the state levels. Even if you are ignored at domestic level, the IPL is an alternate window to gain visibility. The PSL if run professionally can help pakistan in the similar way.



And most importantly blanket ban on anyone with poor fitness from making the senior teams and A-teams. You aren't fit - You don't play.
 
Nothing will improve unless we have a professional first class system made up of 6 to maximum 8 teams.

The less teams, the more competition you have amongst the players meaning more competitive matches played at a high quality of standard.
 
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