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Pakistan Cup 2016 : Punjab beat Islamabad by 30 runs

Horrible, horrible batting.

I understand the wicket is poor & once the ball loses it's shine it's tough to score, but no way a team can justify being all-out inside 43 overs - specially a team that has 7/8 Internationals & top order is half of PAK's Test/ODI side.

I praised Zoaib's innings yesterday (despite SR of 70), because he summed up the wicket perfectly & made sure that they play out 50 overs to put a score which 'll not be cased even one out of 10 attempts on these wickets against their spinners.

Still, I think it's Punjab's match to lose - here Islamabad is chasing 313 on a standard ODI context.
 
What a day in PAK cricket - news makers are

1. dressing room vandalism
2. YK U-turn
3. Stage fighting
3. Muscle of PAK cricket (Punjab) has goofed a List A batting with 7/8 Internationals to be all-out in 43 overs, batting 1st
 
I hope Isloo's top order fire for once although I wouldn't mind seeing another King rescue job.
 
Now these two look like modern batsmen who can play shorts against pace... Force a change to spin ;-)
 
srh said:
now this is the modern ODI game Pakistan badly missing
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I would still invest in them along with Babar Azam for top 3, you need to have players who can play pace with authority, for T20 they are no brainer... Its 2016 not 1986 :po:
 
Poor shot by Kami, ball was very close to cut. How come these guys still make such mistakes :facepalm:
 
Iftikar Ahmed some times looks like Misbah's lost brother :))

And as old as him, not to mention as boring and dull as Captain untouchable

Look at Sharjeel stats, still 30 in 19 balls ;-)
 
asyed said:
Poor shot, ball was very close to cut. How come these guys still make such mistakes :facepalm:
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Kami has been getting out that way for the last 10 years. Somebody with even an iota of brain power would have not repeated the same mistake time and again
 
Going by the number of posts it seems that only a few PPer's are interested in this match.

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Oh man, what a silly mistake by Sharjeel...Sustiee mar hee ghiee akhar :facepalm:
 
3 wickets are fallen on 12 balls, story of Pakistan cricket.
 
Syed1 said:
Kami has been getting out that way for the last 10 years. Somebody with even an iota of brain power would have not repeated the same mistake time and again
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He plays cut shot well, but it makes my blood boil his inability to read if ball is too close or not to cut.

One ball he'll cut one for four and on next ball he will be out like today, because ball was too close to cut. These Akmal's are very braindead.
 
Amad Butt really staking a claim for that alrounders roll in the LOI side
 
Misbah will have to resurrect the innings for the millionth time in his career.
 
[MENTION=137688]pakistancricketlover2[/MENTION]016

You will be praying every ball Maddy faces :-)

Best wishes
 
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Syed1 said:
Amad Butt really staking a claim for that alrounders roll in the LOI side
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He is young and also pacy... Hasan and Butt are two fast bowlers that look like good prospects, both are right handed too, which is good as well... Both can bat a bit...Butt has build to get more pace with time...

Most of the bowlers are medium pacers, which is disappointing to see, people don't eat meat any more?? :((
 
Seen some pp hipsters were being critical of amad butts bowling, he sure showed them. :afridi :msd
 
Syed1 said:
Misbah will have to resurrect the innings for the millionth time in his career.
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Misbah would have failed anyway, again for millionth time as well... This time 20 overs earlier ;-)
 
[MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION]

That's how genuine allrounders bowl :-)

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Off topic: How did Hassan Ali bowled today (missed 1st innings)? Anybody?
 
Hammad disappointed again. Seems like another hype machine by ppers...
 
Does "passionate" posters here do hope that playing countries premium tournament on these wickets, PAK players should compete with better opponents than Afghans & Nepalese in few years time?
 
asyed said:
Off topic: How did Hassan Ali bowled today (missed 1st innings)? Anybody?
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As usual excellent, took 2 wickets but overall his bowling was very very impressive. Great line length, and also he was reversing the ball.
 
MMHS said:
Does "passionate" posters here do hope that playing countries premium tournament on these wickets, PAK players should compete with better opponents than Afghans & Nepalese in few years time?
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Thank you for your input :)
 
#GreenRoars said:
As usual excellent, took 2 wickets but overall his bowling was very very impressive. Great line length, and also he was reversing the ball.
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Fabulous, thanks #GreenRoars this is what I wanted to hear.

Hope Inzy is taking a note.
 
Hasan123 said:
Seen some pp hipsters were being critical of amad butts bowling, he sure showed them. :afridi :msd
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Have been saying since last 1 year that he is only Fast Medium Genuine allrounder in Pakistan.

We do not have any single Fast Medium allrounder in Pakistan.


Razzaq in his peak was Fast medium aswell and could bowl few in Fast range aswell. Amad can become fast aswell in an years time with right training and sports nutrition.


Kallis in his peak was also fast medium with capability of bowling some fast deliveries aswell and Currently only Morris & Stokes are fast medium allrounders.


Fast Medium or Fast Genuine allrounders are a rarity in cricket.

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MMHS said:
Does "passionate" posters here do hope that playing countries premium tournament on these wickets, PAK players should compete with better opponents than Afghans & Nepalese in few years time?
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And we are playing the whole tournament on the same ground , really poor by PCB.
 
RRR (3.89) is very much doable. Lets see how far these two can go.
 
Time for Malik lovers to bump the best tactician thread :-)

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Syed1 said:
Thank you for your input :)
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:19: Congrats, for the "promotion".

I knew PAK 'll drop down after 2012-13 is taken off from Ranking, but never thought it'll come down to 79 points. Which means, I am afraid, after the Royal thrashing in UK & AUS; it might come down to as low as 70 points (because ENG is 6th & they 'll win 5-0 or 4-1) & below that after CT2017. From there on, making it to top 7, means PAK 'll need to add ~15 points in 1.5 years time to avoid Afghanistan, Ireland & Nepal - don't see happening, to be honest. Whatever cricket left in selectors & players, after this "Pakistan Cup", they 'll also be confused.
 
Another bites the dust, don't think Islo is going to chase this total now.

First win for Punjab are on the cards now.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Have been saying since last 1 year that he is only Fast Medium Genuine allrounder in Pakistan.

We do not have any single Fast Medium allrounder in Pakistan.


Razzaq in his peak was Fast medium aswell and could bowl few in Fast range aswell. Amad can become fast aswell in an years time with right training and sports nutrition.


Kallis in his peak was also fast medium with capability of bowling some fast deliveries aswell and Currently only Morris & Stokes are fast medium allrounders.


Fast Medium or Fast Genuine allrounders are a rarity in cricket.

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We deffo need a fast bowling all rounder as the champions trophy is England next year. Talent bhai I haven't see amad bat so can u tell me about his strengths and weakness, will inzi have an eye on selecting him? :inzi
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Time for Malik lovers to bump the best tactician thread :-)

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But, everyone "thought" Shehzad was leading like Brearley yesterday; well almost everyone. There few who believes that PAK domestic cricket is below the level Wales 2nd division cricket ...........
 
Classic Case :

Amad is where Hammad Azam should have been.

Both had similar pace at U-19 level aswell similar physiques and Hammad was a better batsman than Amad was.

After U-19 level Amad improves his physique and fitness and graduated to fast medium pace from medium pace and improved his batting too

Whereas

Hammad Azam's physique and fitness regressed and pace became medium from medium fast and batting regressed aswell.

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MMHS said:
But, everyone "thought" Shehzad was leading like Brearley yesterday; well almost everyone. There few who believes that PAK domestic cricket is below the level Wales 2nd division cricket ...........
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Improvement in system will bring improvement in domestic cricket but still

we have seen some players who have spark.


If they can overhaul system than things will improve.

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MMHS said:
Does "passionate" posters here do hope that playing countries premium tournament on these wickets, PAK players should compete with better opponents than Afghans & Nepalese in few years time?
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Poorly organized tournament... Why keep playing every match on same ground ?? :po:

Lahore and Faislabad are 1.5 Hours drive, and 4/5 hours to Pindi on motor way... They could have used two cities, if not three... This is no more ODI wicket, it does not help anybody, poor viewing for fans, once again PCB messed it up :facepalm:
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Classic Case :

Amad is where Hammad Azam should have been.

Both had similar pace at U-19 level aswell similar physiques and Hammad was a better batsman than Amad was.

After U-19 level Amad improves his physique and fitness and graduated to fast medium pace from medium pace and improved his batting too

Whereas

Hammad Azam's physique and fitness regressed and pace became medium from medium fast and batting regressed aswell.

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Hammad should just focus on his batting. He has a lot of potential as a nr 5 bat.
 
MMHS said:
:19: Congrats, for the "promotion".

I knew PAK 'll drop down after 2012-13 is taken off from Ranking, but never thought it'll come down to 79 points. Which means, I am afraid, after the Royal thrashing in UK & AUS; it might come down to as low as 70 points (because ENG is 6th & they 'll win 5-0 or 4-1) & below that after CT2017. From there on, making it to top 7, means PAK 'll need to add ~15 points in 1.5 years time to avoid Afghanistan, Ireland & Nepal - don't see happening, to be honest. Whatever cricket left in selectors & players, after this "Pakistan Cup", they 'll also be confused.
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hahahaha true face of ban fan talking about ranking what is your t20 ranking 11 or 12??and from how long! atleast we have history which we can be proud of and for u get a life dude ranking is not every thing it is worse time in our cricket history but still i have hope we will come good in odi till 2017 champions trophy and in t20 we are still better side than you
 
yasir said:
Poorly organized tournament... Why keep playing every match on same ground ?? :po:

Lahore and Faislabad are 1.5 Hours drive, and 4/5 hours to Pindi on motor way... They could have used two cities, if not three... This is no more ODI wicket, it does not help anybody, poor viewing for fans, once again PCB messed it up :facepalm:
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Doesn't matter much to be honest - Iqbal, Multan, Gaddafi, Pindi ......... every wicket is same. May be gap between matches would have helped Groundsmen to prepare better wickets; but you need "groundsmen" to take care of wicket; farmers won't do it with the time given. You can read my "bitter posts", after 1st innings of 1st match, when PCB "Farmers" got 2 months to prepare the wicket for Countries premium tournament.

PAK is a large country - with same time people suffers from sun stroke & snow bite. For a small, flat country with absolute identical climate and stadiums around 30-40 KM apart - 7 English Test venues has unique characteristics - Oval is fast & bouncy, it swings prodigiously at Trent Bridge, Old Traford is notorious for uneven bounce & spin, Edbeston cracks after 2/3 days, Leeds is unique of it's own - batting belter when sun is shining & it wobbles with cloud & eastern sea wind; now Southampton is a batting paradise, almost similar to Asia.

If you take this to PCB head of grounds, he'll ask ye banda MMHS kitney Test matches khela hai, baat jo baria karta .....
 
saeed5646 said:
hahahaha true face of ban fan talking about ranking what is your t20 ranking 11 or 12??and from how long! atleast we have history which we can be proud of and for u get a life dude ranking is not every thing it is worse time in our cricket history but still i have hope we will come good in odi till 2017 champions trophy and in t20 we are still better side than you
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Relax. Get a grip - it's only 6 months in PP - you need lot of grow-up still to learn the "true" face.
 
MMHS said:
Does "passionate" posters here do hope that playing countries premium tournament on these wickets, PAK players should compete with better opponents than Afghans & Nepalese in few years time?
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Well as you take a lot of pride in your predictions I just wanted to say to you in truth they are just Predictions and you have been proved wrong countless of times it's not even related to this post but I wanted to say this for a long time.

1) You said BD and India will make the U-19 final and one of them is going to win it you were so sure that when both of these teams made the SF you were like 'I told you so'
Result: WI won

2) You predicted Pakistan will lose the 3rd Test against SRL after the win when I confronted you you were like there was a 90% chance of Pak losing this.

3) India will lose the 5th ODI against Australia by a HUGE MARGIN
Verdict: India won

4) Shahid Afridi will not do anything against BD in world T-20 as it is the "New BD"
Verdict: Shahid Afridi smashed BD

5) England T-20 team is not as good as PAK made them out to be
Verdict: They made the world T-20 final

I have seen you countless times responding in a condescending manner to other posters stating that my predictions are always true well this isn't truly the case. Cheers.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Hammad should just focus on his batting. He has a lot of potential as a nr 5 bat.
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He has huge defects in his batting be it be against pacers or spinners. Many members have already described those issues.

Yes he should bat up the order in next domestic season and improve his batting. No point batting at 7 or 8 for NBP. He should even switch department if NBP aren't willing to send him up the order.

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