"Pakistan didn't deserve to Play in the ICC T20 World Cup Final": Mohammad Amir

[MenInG]

Mohammad Amir on TV:

"The fact that we played in the final is a big thing. We didn't deserve to play in the final. The whole world knows how we advanced to the final. Allah helped us reach there. You will get to know the results if you look at the performance of our batters. Once we got out of Sydney, it was given that this would happen"

"I told you earlier that if the pitch at MCG is the same as it was in the first match, Pakistan will struggle and we did. After winning the toss, we got off to a good start and we knew how the conditions were"

"We talked about Haris and his intent. But along with intent, you also need to have sense. On the first ball, he faced off Adil Rashid, he tried to come down the track"

"On these pitches, you can't leave it to someone else. The new batter will struggle. Ben Stokes showed that experience and game-awareness"

NDTV

 

[shah_1]

Amir is bitter person, has no class at all. Highly toxic person

 

[Muhammad Saad]

We didn't deserved a player like Amir as well and we didn't deserved to play final as well , sometimes things are not in our control

 

[Savak]

It's clear he has something personal against Babar. There is a clip of him where he was not happy when Babar scored in the semis, he even refused to acknowledge the 50 and was like scoring at Sydney was no big deal. Maybe he knows that Babar is behind him not being in the team and hence the toxicity and hatred is coming out.

 

[Rajdeep]

Amir is right. No team deserve to play in the finals after losing against Zimbabwe. But as always, Pakistan is the luckiest team in tournament and always find a way in. 10 out of 10 times SA won't lose against Ned. All this luck started from 1992 WC when Pakistan was virtually out of tournament and then rain happened.

 

[shah_1]

It's clear he has something personal against Babar. There is a clip of him where he was not happy when Babar scored in the semis, he even refused to acknowledge the 50 and was like scoring at Sydney was no big deal. Maybe he knows that Babar is behind him not being in the team and hence the toxicity and hatred is coming out.

Amir is a fixer, no one in Pakistan really support him anymore since our fast bowling department is quality.

He is irrelevant. The only way to stay in the limelight is to bark

 

[Local.Dada]

Amir is right. No team deserve to play in the finals after losing against Zimbabwe. But as always, Pakistan is the luckiest team in tournament and always find a way in. 10 out of 10 times SA won't lose against Ned. All this luck started from 1992 WC when Pakistan was virtually out of tournament and then rain happened.

Kenya in 2003 was a better team than Aus,SA of 2003 by that same logic used by some

 

[Rana]

Well, we were give a message to keep quiet once the team reached the finals

 

[boomboomcheema]

Deep down he seems very happy that Pakistan lost.

 

[Local.Dada]

Kenya in 2003 was a better team than Aus,SA of 2003 by that same logic used by some

Oops meant Pak not Australia

 

[RehanG]

Amir is right. No team deserve to play in the finals after losing against Zimbabwe. But as always, Pakistan is the luckiest team in tournament and always find a way in. 10 out of 10 times SA won't lose against Ned. All this luck started from 1992 WC when Pakistan was virtually out of tournament and then rain happened.

England didn’t deserve to be in the finals lost to Ireland..

If you are in the final, you are in the final. And any match there is 50/50 as we saw it yesterday.

 

[Ashmal]

Amir is right. No team deserve to play in the finals after losing against Zimbabwe. But as always, Pakistan is the luckiest team in tournament and always find a way in. 10 out of 10 times SA won't lose against Ned. All this luck started from 1992 WC when Pakistan was virtually out of tournament and then rain happened.

But, Eng deserve to win the cup after losing to Ireland.

Lol....keep crying

 

[shokz1408]

I hope he’s not featuring in the PSL, this guy is very toxic, and a cheat too, keep him far away from the players. We’ve got plenty of skilful bowlers on show, and he’s not being missed.

 

[the Great Khan]

Oh tge rona Dhona continues..lol..we deserved to reach the final. End of..this is tournament cricket not league cricket..our parosis just can't stomach the box office nature of pakistan cricket ..

As for Amir. He needs to shut up. The strife this fool put us through will never be forgotten..I'm glad Babar if true ignores this choar..

 

[gani999]

Amir is bitter person, has no class at all. Highly toxic person

This guy got caught red handed in a match fixing scam and banned for five years. Yet, the PCB rehabilitated him and even brought him back into the team. No other board would have been so generous. And he doesn't hesitate to pass such comments about his team.

Disgusting how entitled some can be.

 

[gazza619]

No team deserve to play in the finals after losing against Zimbabwe. But as always, Pakistan is the luckiest team in tournament

England lost to Ireland

Luck favours the brave, hence your heroes are now preparing early for IPL

 

[Barragan]

Pak throughly deserved to be in the final.

Winning against SA and NZ was a testament to that.

Only lost marginally to ind as well.

There was the zim defeat, but Eng lost to Ireland!!

 

[Suleiman]

If im his captain in PSL he’s carrying drinks, doing shoe touch ups to make sure everyone’s shoes are clean, and carrying a bucket where everyone can spit gum etc inside.

Otherwise he’s not playing. Clearly small time imprisoned + 5 year ban wasn’t enough. This guy needs to be humiliated further for the two face convicted felon he is.

 

[Major]

Amir is right. No team deserve to play in the finals after losing against Zimbabwe. But as always, Pakistan is the luckiest team in tournament and always find a way in. 10 out of 10 times SA won't lose against Ned. All this luck started from 1992 WC when Pakistan was virtually out of tournament and then rain happened.

SA lost to Netherland, England lost to Ireland

what are you talking about?

The process of teams moving forward is very simple. The top two best teams based on performance qualify. From our group India and Pakistan were top two teams. Yes, Pakistan lost to Zimbabwe, but didnt South Africa lost to Netherlands? Who told them to lose? They could had easily won that game and based on points they would had been the deserving team. When they lost, how is it our fault?

Basically, if Pakistan does not deserve to be in the finals, than who deserves to be there? Our group had South Africa, Netherlands, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

South Africa lost to Netherlands, didnt have points. Netherlands only won 2 games thats it. Zimbabwe only won 1 game and lost all other games. Bangladesh lost all games against the top teams?

So if Pakistan does not deserve to move to the next round, than offcourse some team had to move? So who should had it been? South africa? The team with leeser points
Or one of the smaller teams that didn't have enough wins.

Pakistan did not just show up at the final. They defeated NZ! NZ is a team that plays cricket in these conditions, Pakistan was the outside team.

Meanwhile, England the other opposition was in the final even after losing to Ireland.

So plz, before posting illogical stuff, atleast put some proper analysis to defend your post as to why someone doesnt deserve to be there.

 

[Major]

Kenya in 2003 was a better team than Aus,SA of 2003 by that same logic used by some

Its better to do a bit of an analysis before making such claims

The reason why Kenya moved from group stages towards the super 6 stages was because of two things. Kenya was amongst the top minnows at the time, more like todays Ireland. They defeated Sri Lanka. But what helped in them qulifying for the super 6s was because NZ forfeited their match against Kenya. Kenya got the points

Than there was an iisue in the point system aswell. You were allowed to carry forward your points from group stage to Super sixes.

Kenya only won 1 game in the super sixes and lost the other 2 and were in the semis.

Zimbabwe aswell got a forfeit from England, got points and moved to super sixes

 

[Rana]

Tbf Pakistan had an easy/doable group

They had no chance of qualification had they swapped places with Sri Lanka

I think Sri Lanka could have had the same kind of road to the final as us if we were in their group and they in ours

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

I pity emerging and foreign players at Karachi King.

What a soul destroying bunch of players they will play with.

 

[Ashmal]

Tbf Pakistan had an easy/doable group

They had no chance of qualification had they swapped places with Sri Lanka

I think Sri Lanka could have had the same kind of road to the final as us if we were in their group and they in ours

If it was so easy then why couldn't India and SA make it to the finals.

And if you think the same SL which got smashed by Aus, NZ, Eng and even lost to Namibia in qualifiers, would've reached finals by beating SA and then winning in semis.....then I can't say much

 

[Ashmal]

It funny to see all this mental gymnastics being done by a few to somehow show that Pakistan didn't deserve to play in finals....while conveniently ignoring the fact that Eng too lost to Ireland and would've been knocked out if Aus didn't lose that badly to NZ.

 

[Rana]

If it was so easy then why couldn't India and SA make it to the finals.

And if you think the same SL which got smashed by Aus, NZ, Eng and even lost to Namibia in qualifiers, would've reached finals by beating SA and then winning in semis.....then I can't say much

If Sri Lanka can lose the toss in Dubai and still win a final against Pakistan, then anything can happen.

If NL can upset SA, then Sri Lanka can also fluke their way into a final

 

[Mamoon]

This guy got caught red handed in a match fixing scam and banned for five years. Yet, the PCB rehabilitated him and even brought him back into the team. No other board would have been so generous. And he doesn't hesitate to pass such comments about his team.

Disgusting how entitled some can be.

PCB brought him back not out of generosity but because they needed him. Pakistan’s fast bowling stocks were depleted in 2015-16 and they needed him.

Therefore, Amir does not owe PCB anything and has no reason to show gratitude. PCB were looking after their own interests.

If they were generous, they would have reselected Butt and Asif. Amir would have been given the same treatment if PCB didn’t need him.

 

[Concerned]

Think his biggest concern is the bowling attack has improved to a extent that he is no longer required.

Even if there was a change of management I don’t think they will be in pursuit of him

 

[Aseem_04]

Thats bitter truth cause pakistani was Accidentel finalist, They reached in semifinal on Basis Of
20% Performance
30% Netherlands
50% Kudrat Ka Nizam,

Except Sydney's subcontinent style wicket where bounce was below waist line they didn't win anything, against other teams . Pretty club level batting was evident Against pace ,Bounce and seam ,They are the only team scoring 129-145 a number of times But Their Bowling Was best in this T20 Wc.

 

[Mamoon]

Thats bitter truth cause pakistani was Accidentel finalist, They reached in semifinal on Basis Of
20% Performance
30% Netherlands
50% Kudrat Ka Nizam,

Except Sydney's subcontinent style wicket where bounce was below waist line they didn't win anything, against other teams . Pretty club level batting was evident Against pace ,Bounce and seam ,They are the only team scoring 129-145 a number of times But Their Bowling Was best in this T20 Wc.

Totally agree. Pakistan’s entry into the final was a total fluke and I think the final itself was qudrat ka nizam because it would have unfair to England and others if a chaotic and mismanaged team like Pakistan would have fluked the final.

So the better prepared and planned team won the final and rightly so.

 

[shah_1]

Surely you need Amir for the home Test series against England/NZ with Shaheen out? He can definitely play these series in the absence of Shaheen

bowling 125kph tunderbolts

 

[pillionrider]

Over the last couple days I've watched a few of the show featuring Amir, Wahab and Salim Malik.

Salim looks shady even in his comments, often looking to the other two for reiteration.

Wahab tries to be balanced and sometimes even sounds like Gambhir doing analysis.

Amir was surprisingly interesting to hear. Ever since his primadonna behaviour and boot, I assumed he must be a Basit Ali kind of character on TV. But he actually makes a lot of good points and analyzes the game well. He has a sharp sense of humour that he unfortunately uses in a bitter, rude way. Overall, he comes across intelligent, which should have been obvious, given his quality as a bowler.

However, there doesn't seem like any way exists for him to return to international cricket as he seems to loathe Babar from his gut and Babar isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. Besides, Pakistan seem fairly united for a change, and you don't want to open the door to anyone who can disrupt a team that's being built.

 

[Fenrir]

bowling 125kph tunderbolts

He is a trundler now.There are many bowlers in domestic cricket who are better them him.

 

[Fenrir]

Totally agree. Pakistan’s entry into the final was a total fluke and I think the final itself was qudrat ka nizam because it would have unfair to England and others if a chaotic and mismanaged team like Pakistan would have fluked the final.

So the better prepared and planned team won the final and rightly so.

Pakistan made it to the finals and this is what will stay in the records.No one will remember what happened in the group matches.It is great achievement for Pakistan considering it’s poor middle order.If Pakistan can strengthen it’s middle order then it will be a good team.

 

[shaz619]

Over the last couple days I've watched a few of the show featuring Amir, Wahab and Salim Malik.

Salim looks shady even in his comments, often looking to the other two for reiteration.

Wahab tries to be balanced and sometimes even sounds like Gambhir doing analysis.

Amir was surprisingly interesting to hear. Ever since his primadonna behaviour and boot, I assumed he must be a Basit Ali kind of character on TV. But he actually makes a lot of good points and analyzes the game well. He has a sharp sense of humour that he unfortunately uses in a bitter, rude way. Overall, he comes across intelligent, which should have been obvious, given his quality as a bowler.

However, there doesn't seem like any way exists for him to return to international cricket as he seems to loathe Babar from his gut and Babar isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. Besides, Pakistan seem fairly united for a change, and you don't want to open the door to anyone who can disrupt a team that's being built.

Amir is a clever/shrewd guy, he has been intelligent and as my friends say” chalak” since he was 17 years old

 

[greatest]

Pakistan is a much better team since Amir, Malik, Afridi and Akhtar retired. All certified troublemakers.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Amir is a clever/shrewd guy, he has been intelligent and as my friends say” chalak” since he was 17 years old

and a good actor.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Didnt comment because we always a meltdown after winning semis and a meltdown after losing finals, so better to avoid those weeks.

But on this topic.

Not sure if people are serious here.

What is this deserve to thing?

How do u get to a final?

Luck ?

Then everyone has a bit of luck.

But can you enter the final without winning any game ?

No.

You have to win games to reach the final.

Pakistan won in semi final.

England won in semi final.

England lost to Ireland in Group stage.

Pakistan lost to Zimbabwe in Group stage.

South Africa lost to Netherlands in group stage.

Yet England deserves to be in final.

South Africa deserves to be in final.

India deserved to be in final.

NZ deserved to be in final.

But Pakistan doesnt deserve to be in final?

Clearly the wood is burning so much and so far and the smoke is so thick thats its easy to see why the fire is not going to be extinguished.

Pakistan doesnt deserve it.

Biggest nonsense I have seen for a long time.

 

[Kroll]

Pakistan fully deserved to be in the final. Just because we handed out our generosity at the beginning by giving victories to India and Zimb doesn't mean squat in the grand scheme of things.

Once we were done with the pleasantries, we got on with the serious business of getting to the final which we achieved. Amir should be ignored, rising to his bait and getting riled up is not worth it.

 

[Thephenom]

We are historically slow starters, teams always need luck to win trophies, did people see Stokes face when Shaheen kept on beating his edge by inches, he didn’t know what was going on, he was even praising him, even with there deep batting lineup, if he’d got out we’d of probably won

 

[Punjab Kings]

He is trying to win an IPL contract....
Such a loose person...

 

[Stewie]

We are historically slow starters, teams always need luck to win trophies, did people see Stokes face when Shaheen kept on beating his edge by inches, he didn’t know what was going on, he was even praising him, even with there deep batting lineup, if he’d got out we’d of probably won

That is, indeed, our biggest problem. I think if we get 7 match series against most oppositions, we eventually adapt and start beating them after learning. I dont know if its good or bad, as in lack of early prep vs good adaptability but we do come back strong after the initial losses. This has always been a problem for us except maybe for the Wasim era when we were bullish right off the bat and wont allow any team to settle. Probably the most lethal pakistan team we ever had in that era (1997-2002).

 

[Stewie]

Amir was trundling below 82 mph in test cricket the last time he played tests cricket. And that was 4 years ago .

To be very honest, I do not believe that was a case of inability to bowl quick. He just did not seem interested enough to work hard at the test level because he had been eyeing the franchise arena. He was always a greedy person. I am sure lengthening his career has also been a priority so he has been cutting down on risk factors. It is pretty sad.

In terms of talent, he was/is very very gifted and delivers well in white ball format.

 

[Thephenom]

No team should get to the final after loosing against Ireland and beating Sri Lanka chasing 141 with 2 balls left and loosing 6 wickets in the process, then comprehensively beating India in the final, oh yeah that was England, boy, the bile on here from so called Pakistan fans towards our team is mind blowing!

 

[Thephenom]

That is, indeed, our biggest problem. I think if we get 7 match series against most oppositions, we eventually adapt and start beating them after learning. I dont know if it’s good or bad, as in lack of early prep vs good adaptability but we do come back strong after the initial losses. This has always been a problem for us except maybe for the Wasim era when we were bullish right off the bat and wont allow any team to settle. Probably the most lethal pakistan team we ever had in that era (1997-2002).

Because while teams like England appoint coaches who have a bit of intelligence and knowledge about them and have actuality been successful with other teams, we appoint people like Saqlain who spends the majority of Pakistan matches muttering prayers to himself!

 

[Buffet]

There is nothing called deserved or not deserved.

Pakistan reached to final. End of discussion.

Discussion is not about the two best teams. It's about who reached to final and Pakistan was one team to reach final. Why even have any discussion on this?

 

[Kianig89]

How cheap one can go Amir has lost it all

 

[Nikhil_cric]

To be very honest, I do not believe that was a case of inability to bowl quick. He just did not seem interested enough to work hard at the test level because he had been eyeing the franchise arena. He was always a greedy person. I am sure lengthening his career has also been a priority so he has been cutting down on risk factors. It is pretty sad.

In terms of talent, he was/is very very gifted and delivers well in white ball format.

He didn't have the best PSL either. He's done in international cricket I think. Pakistan have much younger, faster options than Aamir who in reality is around 33.

 

[Nasty Naz]

With this stupid logic, Pakistan didn't deserve to play in the 2017 Championship Trophy final either with how awful they were in game 1, barely won in game 2 and likely would have lost if not for the rain and it took Sri Lanka quite literally dropping the match on multiple occasions with Sarfraz for us to win & reach the semi's.

At the end of the day, Pakistan didn't exactly deserve to lose game 1 of the WC either but it happened. They beat SA convincingly along with ND & Bangladesh and dominated NZ. South Africa lost in an upset match just like a few other teams did including Pakistan. Heck even the WC winners were beaten by Ireland.

Amir just seems like an incredibly dumb person and it's probably why he went along with Butt to throw away his career like he did.

 

[Saj]

Let's be honest they were very lucky to be in the semi-finals after a once in a lifetime win by Netherlands over South Africa.

However the semi-final performance was excellent against New Zealand.

 

[Bewal Express]

Mohammad Amir on TV:

"The fact that we played in the final is a big thing. We didn't deserve to play in the final. The whole world knows how we advanced to the final. Allah helped us reach there. You will get to know the results if you look at the performance of our batters. Once we got out of Sydney, it was given that this would happen"

"I told you earlier that if the pitch at MCG is the same as it was in the first match, Pakistan will struggle and we did. After winning the toss, we got off to a good start and we knew how the conditions were"

"We talked about Haris and his intent. But along with intent, you also need to have sense. On the first ball, he faced off Adil Rashid, he tried to come down the track"

"On these pitches, you can't leave it to someone else. The new batter will struggle. Ben Stokes showed that experience and game-awareness"

NDTV

If your in the final, you deserve to be there. More sayings of an idiot

 

[Bewal Express]

Didnt comment because we always a meltdown after winning semis and a meltdown after losing finals, so better to avoid those weeks.

But on this topic.

Not sure if people are serious here.

What is this deserve to thing?

How do u get to a final?

Luck ?

Then everyone has a bit of luck.

But can you enter the final without winning any game ?

No.

You have to win games to reach the final.

Pakistan won in semi final.

England won in semi final.

England lost to Ireland in Group stage.

Pakistan lost to Zimbabwe in Group stage.

South Africa lost to Netherlands in group stage.

Yet England deserves to be in final.

South Africa deserves to be in final.

India deserved to be in final.

NZ deserved to be in final.

But Pakistan doesnt deserve to be in final?

Clearly the wood is burning so much and so far and the smoke is so thick thats its easy to see why the fire is not going to be extinguished.

Pakistan doesnt deserve it.

Biggest nonsense I have seen for a long time.

Great post. Apparently its only us that dont deserve it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Totally agree. Pakistan’s entry into the final was a total fluke and I think the final itself was qudrat ka nizam because it would have unfair to England and others if a chaotic and mismanaged team like Pakistan would have fluked the final.

So the better prepared and planned team won the final and rightly so.

Just nonsensical rubbish. Have the rules changed to suit us? We got there because we got more points than the 3rd place team and in the SF we hammered NZ.

 

[Slim]

Amir is right. No team deserve to play in the finals after losing against Zimbabwe. But as always, Pakistan is the luckiest team in tournament and always find a way in. 10 out of 10 times SA won't lose against Ned. All this luck started from 1992 WC when Pakistan was virtually out of tournament and then rain happened.

India didnt deserve to be in semi finals either. Got a lucky escape against Pakistan, got smashed by South Africa to only get pounded to oblivion by England. Went like besharams after getting a historic beat down of 10 wickets. Pakistan was clearly the second best T20I side of the tournament. Beat South Africa and Nzland and were super unlucky to lose against India/Zimbabwe.

 

[Mamoon]

England got screwed over by D/L. They needed 50 in 30 with 5 wickets in hand. They would have beaten Ireland comfortably in a full game.

Pakistan had no business qualifying for the semifinals after failing to chase 130 against Zimbabwe under lights.

 

[shaz619]

England got screwed over by D/L. They needed 50 in 30 with 5 wickets in hand. They would have beaten Ireland comfortably in a full game.

Pakistan had no business qualifying for the semifinals after failing to chase 130 against Zimbabwe under lights.

Yes, Mo was on the brink of taking England home in that game against Ireland.

Pakistan did their bit to get to the finals, the wins over SA and NZ were class

 

[Savak]

England got screwed over by D/L. They needed 50 in 30 with 5 wickets in hand. They would have beaten Ireland comfortably in a full game.

Pakistan had no business qualifying for the semifinals after failing to chase 130 against Zimbabwe under lights.

England in 1992 lost to Zimbabwe in the group matches. Going by your logic, they too did not have any business qualifying for the finals.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Ridiculous statement.

A team who lost to Pakistan and the Netherlands certainly didn't deserve to either.
Neither a team who lost to the aforementioned team, scraped a victory from jaws of defeat vs pakistan and got annihilated by 10 wickets in the semi final.

Once you've reached the final you've earned it, no matter how you got there.

That being said the groups were definitely skewed.

 

[Rajdeep]

England lost to Ireland

Luck favours the brave, hence your heroes are now preparing early for IPL

With respect but we beat you on 23rd Oct, the only game that mattered. Not sure where the braveness was on that day. The guy who couldn't buy a run in IPL single handedly beat your team.

Let's be honest, we all know India's T20 team is rubbish and players full of has been's. Pakistan team is at its peak and probably playing the best cricket as a unit I have ever seen them play. Even then, this year we have played thrice and beat you in two games. Had Arshdeep not dropped that catch, it would be 3-0.

 

[Saj]

Did we deserve to reach the final - probably no.

Will we take it - yes.

Did we play better than expected - no.

 

[Rana]

England lost to Ireland

Luck favours the brave, hence your heroes are now preparing early for IPL

What brave?

Our brave openers?

 

[sweep_shot]

Salty statement for Amir.

Pakistan beat South Africa and New Zealand. They definitely deserved to be in the final.

 

[moghul]

Amir is right, team did not play at all like a potential contender of the cup.

Amir is the guy who won us a world cup and a Champion trophy , so I would listen carefully what he says.

 

[Cricket-lion]

PSL should kick Amir out. He is just a bitter individual who has remorse for his actions over the years.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Whatever the thing is , reaching final in WC is an achievement.. Yes they had luck to be there but they did beat SA and NZ to be there, no doubt..

He is bitter now because the fast bowling lineup has made sure this fellow has no chance.. He in his world thought that when he announced retirement , PCB would go beg him but it didnt go the way he expected....

 

[ask_analyse_act]

England got screwed over by D/L. They needed 50 in 30 with 5 wickets in hand. They would have beaten Ireland comfortably in a full game.

Pakistan had no business qualifying for the semifinals after failing to chase 130 against Zimbabwe under lights.

Agree Moeen and Livingstone were on the crease , they left the acceleration too late..

 

[Local.Dada]

India didnt deserve to be in semi finals either. Got a lucky escape against Pakistan, got smashed by South Africa to only get pounded to oblivion by England. Went like besharams after getting a historic beat down of 10 wickets. Pakistan was clearly the second best T20I side of the tournament. Beat South Africa and Nzland and were super unlucky to lose against India/Zimbabwe.

Playing and winning close/tight games is not equal to waiting for multiple unexpected factors going your way to sneak in.

 

[Zaz]

It doesnt matter who deserved it What matters is where you finish and the points in the end

We finished 2nd in our group so rightly progressed. Did south africa deserve it after losing to us and tge dutch? No

England lost against ireland I guess they didnt deserve to win the final either

Id be interested to know who the great amir thinks deserved it mo Hes just being bitter as usual Sad really what hes turned into

 

[Bewal Express]

England got screwed over by D/L. They needed 50 in 30 with 5 wickets in hand. They would have beaten Ireland comfortably in a full game.

Pakistan had no business qualifying for the semifinals after failing to chase 130 against Zimbabwe under lights.

Did they suddenly change the rules? Another one of the those senseless rants you specialise in. Give it a rest

 

[Bewal Express]

Did we deserve to reach the final - probably no.

Will we take it - yes.

Did we play better than expected - no.

You are either in the final or you arent. In Sport there is no such thing as deserving.

 

[MenInG]

Amir's remarks should be treated with a pinch of salt - he has an agenda.

 

[Hextro]

Amir would know a thing or two about not deserving things.

 

[Saj]

You are either in the final or you arent. In Sport there is no such thing as deserving.

The fact remains though and taking nothing away from them, that Pakistan were out of the tournament and it was only due to a freak result that they reached the semi-finals.

 

[Rana]

Amir would know a thing or two about not deserving things.

He totally deserved his 2008 World Cup medal and the CT17 medal

Cry all you want

 

[Rana]

Amir's remarks should be treated with a pinch of salt - he has an agenda.

What if his agenda is correct?

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

Amir is a thankless brat

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Bit rich coming from someone who didn't deserve to get a second chance in International Cricket himself. He has no regrets.

 

[Babeikh]

Amir clearly not the sharpest tool in the box.

 

[Bewal Express]

The fact remains though and taking nothing away from them, that Pakistan were out of the tournament and it was only due to a freak result that they reached the semi-finals.

But the Dutch are part of the tournament and its not the 1st time they have turned teams over- Remember 2009 at Lords. To me you only argue its freakish if the something totally out of the ordinary happened like an unexpected storm. To look at it another way, we were within a good bal of beating Ind, a shot of beating of Zimbabwe but we didn't. Its all part of the game and we were and deserved to be in the final. No doubt we will play better and not reach the final.

 

[Ashmal]

The fact remains though and taking nothing away from them, that Pakistan were out of the tournament and it was only due to a freak result that they reached the semi-finals.

Same can be said about Eng as well, if Aus didn't lose that badly vs NZ then Eng would've gone home too.

So did Eng deserve to win the cup after losing to Ireland and only getting in SF due to a freak result (90 run losses hardly ever occur in T20s, esp for a team like Aus)


We can go on about other teams too.....there's no end to this argument.

Hence in tournaments, there's nothing as deserving....you either win or you don't.

 

[Ashmal]

With respect but we beat you on 23rd Oct, the only game that mattered. Not sure where the braveness was on that day. The guy who couldn't buy a run in IPL single handedly beat your team.

Let's be honest, we all know India's T20 team is rubbish and players full of has been's. Pakistan team is at its peak and probably playing the best cricket as a unit I have ever seen them play. Even then, this year we have played thrice and beat you in two games. Had Arshdeep not dropped that catch, it would be 3-0.

Few weeks back Ind vs Pak rivalry was dead according to you.

But now it's the only game which mattered for you in a WC...