Pakistan has no difficult Test series for the next 2 years

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Pakistan seems like they can be successful even if they play a decent game in tests for the next 2 years.

They have 8 series in the next two years, and play all SENA teams at home and all weak teams away

Away
Zimbabwe
Windies
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka

Home
South Africa
Australia
England
New Zealand

It can’t get easier than that. If Pakistan can’t get at 5 after this cycle, I don’t know when they can

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Have 5 genuine spinners in the circuit to tackle the SENA teams and to gain some easy points

Sajid Khan
Nauman Ali
Zafar Gohar
Yasir Shah
Zahid Mahmood

Spin All rounders
Agha Salman
Mohammad Nawaz
Shadab Khan

 

[Mamoon]

Australia, England and New Zealand will be far from easy on Pakistani pitches. Their bowlers and batsmen will enjoy Pakistani pitches way more than UAE ones.

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Australia, England and New Zealand will be far from easy on Pakistani pitches. Their bowlers and batsmen will enjoy Pakistani pitches way more than UAE ones.

Completely agreed. Now it’s upto Pakistan board to know which grounds/ pitches will support spin. I don’t have much knowledge on that

 

[Suleiman]

Im just grateful we finally get to have games at home.

Choti choti khusiya, but this one is huge

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Man... This is way too easy!!

Pakistan can surely win 3 out of 4 series at home
Away
Ban- not a big task
Wi- surely competitive
Zim- meh
Srilanka- competitive but still relatively easy

Pakistan has a good chance to qualify for WTc final.

 

[ahmedzee]

Pakistan need another "effective" spinner apart from Yasir Shah in order to actually win the home games against SENA.

 

[Manunited18]

Lol, fancy England kiwis Australia to beat pakistan in pakistan or uae

 

[UzmanBeast]

Australia, England and New Zealand will be far from easy on Pakistani pitches. Their bowlers and batsmen will enjoy Pakistani pitches way more than UAE ones.

This is often overlooked by a lot of people. Bowlers like Archer, Starc, and Boult will actually be able to get something out of the pitches, so the idea should be to spin these teams out. Except for Australia, no other team has a spinner I'd even consider to be decent. Lyon is a class bowler, so we'll have to think about the types of pitches we make.

If by that time the Multan Stadium is ready to host test cricket, it could provide a good opportunity to be a spin-oriented pitch along with Karachi.

Against England and New Zealand, we should win pretty comfortably if we make spinning tracks. Against Australia, with the presence of Nathan Lyon, and the fact that Australian batsmen can still play spin relatively well, we will just have to be on top of our game and take the chances that come our way.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Pakistan seems like they can be successful even if they play a decent game in tests for the next 2 years.

They have 8 series in the next two years, and play all SENA teams at home and all weak teams away


Away
Zimbabwe
Windies
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka

Home
South Africa
Australia
England
New Zealand

It can’t get easier than that. If Pakistan can’t get at 5 after this cycle, I don’t know when they can

Zimbabwe will be a series win. Bangladesh and Sri Lanka will be equally rewarding for the young spinner we introduce to our side, and if our batsmen play spin well, we'll be able to dominate. We also have a better fast-bowlign attack than both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, so we should back ourselves to win there. West Indies will be competitive, but given that their batting is extremely weak, it will take one good batting session to put them under a lot of pressure.

Ideally, all of the SENA teams touring should be handed spinning tracks to maximize our chances of winning. However, even if we do qualify, the fact remains that we'll not have gone to any threatening overseas tours, meaning that if the final is at Lords, we'll surely lose.

 

[King_Kohli]

So, Pakistan will qualify for next WTC final.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Have 5 genuine spinners in the circuit to tackle the SENA teams and to gain some easy points

Sajid Khan
Nauman Ali
Zafar Gohar
Yasir Shah
Zahid Mahmood

Spin All rounders
Agha Salman
Mohammad Nawaz
Shadab Khan

How many of those 'genuine spinners' are actually any good?

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

How many of those 'genuine spinners' are actually any good?

That’s the best you’ve for next two years. Unless India-Pak becomes one country and you can select Ash and Jaddu

 

[PakPremi]

To start with the SA series would be difficult for this Pakistan team, as Pak bowling has no one world class in bowling, not sure Yasir would be as effective as he is in UAE. Batting at home is the oy thing that could save Pakistan.

 

[Yk313]

Pakistan seems like they can be successful even if they play a decent game in tests for the next 2 years.

They have 8 series in the next two years, and play all SENA teams at home and all weak teams away


Away
Zimbabwe
Windies
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka

Home
South Africa
Australia
England
New Zealand

It can’t get easier than that. If Pakistan can’t get at 5 after this cycle, I don’t know when they can

On paper, yes. On paper, this should be the best possible way of easing a new captain, selector and (allegedly) a new coach into the set up.

In reality PAK will need to have everything from groundsmen, weather, selector, captain and coach firing in tandem to have a chance. The selections have already been dished out and are not more than eyewash.

If we start with the SAF tour, PAK will need to be at their clinical best (almost a contradiction in itself).

PAK will hope and pray that SAF implode and get anxious over the ‘idea’ of playing spin instead of actually playing spin.

Otherwise, this can be a very tight tour.

 

[Mamoon]

This is often overlooked by a lot of people. Bowlers like Archer, Starc, and Boult will actually be able to get something out of the pitches, so the idea should be to spin these teams out. Except for Australia, no other team has a spinner I'd even consider to be decent. Lyon is a class bowler, so we'll have to think about the types of pitches we make.

If by that time the Multan Stadium is ready to host test cricket, it could provide a good opportunity to be a spin-oriented pitch along with Karachi.

Against England and New Zealand, we should win pretty comfortably if we make spinning tracks. Against Australia, with the presence of Nathan Lyon, and the fact that Australian batsmen can still play spin relatively well, we will just have to be on top of our game and take the chances that come our way.

Pakistan needs to prepare proper turning wickets for all these sides. That is the only Pakistan will have a distinct advantage.

England’s overall lineup against spin is actually better than Australia’s except Smith. If Pakistan can somehow negate him, Australia will fold more easily than England.

Nevertheless, the Lyon factor makes Australia the bigger threat.

 

[Hasan123]

Apart from Zimbabwe none of these series are easy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That’s the best you’ve for next two years. Unless India-Pak becomes one country and you can select Ash and Jaddu

You didn't answer the question which I assume means you don't rate them that much. In which case why do you think those are going to be easy series?

 

[Rana]

Lol Misbah bali Ka Baqra for the tough cycle and Andy Flower gets a halwa path to WTC final.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan had a terrible record at home in the 90s. Pakistani wickets are nothing like the UAE wickets

 

[aloo paratha]

Apart from Zimbabwe none of these series are easy.

We won all our last away series in Bangladesh, SL and Windies. When's the last time Australia and England beat us in a home series? 2000 for England and 2002 for Australia? Even NZ won the series 2 years ago by only 4 runs.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan had a terrible record at home in the 90s. Pakistani wickets are nothing like the UAE wickets

But England, Australia and New Zealand are not beating us in a Test series at home. They will probably pull a 1-1 or a 1-0 in a 2 match series. But I wouldn’t count on it.

 

[Justcrazy]

To win Pakistan need their batsmen to fire , a lot of sides have good spinners , and Pakistan are very poor against left arm spinners.

If they make a turning pitch and lose the toss , it will be very tough for them.

 

[Hasan123]

We won all our last away series in Bangladesh, SL and Windies. When's the last time Australia and England beat us in a home series? 2000 for England and 2002 for Australia? Even NZ won the series 2 years ago by only 4 runs.

Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and West Indies will do better at home compared to their away performances. I don’t expect easy wins.

We beat England and Australia in UAE last. You forget that we are not as strong as we were 20 years ago.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If pakistanis play well atleast 6 series wins.

Should win 3 away series minimum. Only WI will give any competition.

Should beat SAxand NZ at home. Australia will give some competition. England is 50-50.

 

[Markhor]

Apart from Zimbabwe none of these series are easy.

Don't be so sure against Zimbabwe if Misbah and Wiki are still around.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Away
Zimbabwe - WIN
Windies - DRAW
Bangladesh - LOSE
Sri Lanka - LOSE

Home
South Africa - LOSE
Australia - LOSE
England - LOSE
New Zealand - WIN

So, we’ll end up winning two series’, losing 5, and draw 1.

 

[Hasan123]

Don't be so sure against Zimbabwe if Misbah and Wiki are still around.

Dam I nearly forgot about that. [MENTION=138508]aloo paratha[/MENTION], you want to talk about past results but don’t mention that result . We had YK,Misbah, and peak Azhar in that team. Obviously your not gonna mention that defeat, you will brush it aside because it doesn’t suit your agenda.

 

[aloo paratha]

Away
Zimbabwe - WIN
Windies - DRAW
Bangladesh - LOSE
Sri Lanka - LOSE

Home
South Africa - LOSE
Australia - LOSE
England - LOSE
New Zealand - WIN

So, we’ll end up winning two series’, losing 5, and draw 1.

You really think we're gonna draw in WI but lose away to SL and Ban

 

[Rana]

Away
Zimbabwe - WIN
Windies - DRAW
Bangladesh - LOSE
Sri Lanka - LOSE

Home
South Africa - LOSE
Australia - LOSE
England - LOSE
New Zealand - WIN

So, we’ll end up winning two series’, losing 5, and draw 1.

Lol no man. Have some optimism. InshaAllah we will surprise you.

 

[aloo paratha]

Dam I nearly forgot about that. [MENTION=138508]aloo paratha[/MENTION], you want to talk about past results but don’t mention that result . We had YK,Misbah, and peak Azhar in that team. Obviously your not gonna mention that defeat, you will brush it aside because it doesn’t suit your agenda.

You yourself said Zimbabwe will be easy, there was no reason for me to speak about it.

 

[aloo paratha]

Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and West Indies will do better at home compared to their away performances. I don’t expect easy wins.

We beat England and Australia in UAE last. You forget that we are not as strong as we were 20 years ago.

What does this even mean? I'm saying that we defeated all 3 of them the last times we player series' there, at their own home.

 

[Hasan123]

What does this even mean? I'm saying that we defeated all 3 of them the last times we player series' there, at their own home.

We lost to Zimbabwe in 2013? Why don’t you mention that? Also the series win against West Indies in 2017, was our first ever series win in West Indies. So don’t act like it’s a forgone conclusion that we will beat West Indies.

 

[Hasan123]

You yourself said Zimbabwe will be easy, there was no reason for me to speak about it.

But your the one bringing up all the past results. So why not mention that one?

 

[Rana]

Boys are too maayoos because of Misbah and Waqar.

We need to BBQ SA at home to restore the confidence of some

 

[YousafTheBeast]

You really think we're gonna draw in WI but lose away to SL and Ban

West Indies at home are a good side. Holder Roach and Gabriel will trouble our inexperienced batting line up.

Sri Lanka always does well against us, they turn into the 1980’s WI team when we play them.

Bangladesh could surprise us, I feel our players will probably think it’s a stroll in the park, and with Shakib back in the team you just never know.

Lol no man. Have some optimism. InshaAllah we will surprise you.

I’ll run out the house in my kachi if Pak beats SA at home.

 

[Napa]

So, Pakistan will qualify for next WTC final.

India and Pakistan in the final, bring it on

 

[aloo paratha]

But your the one bringing up all the past results. So why not mention that one?

Because you yourself said it was easy. Why would I argue about something we both agree with

 

[Rana]

Pakistan seems like they can be successful even if they play a decent game in tests for the next 2 years.

They have 8 series in the next two years, and play all SENA teams at home and all weak teams away

Away
Zimbabwe
Windies
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka

Home
South Africa
Australia
England
New Zealand

It can’t get easier than that. If Pakistan can’t get at 5 after this cycle, I don’t know when they can

Not sure what is difficult to understand in this opening post.

-The tougher (top 4 opponents) are scheduled to play at home and we can prepare tracks to floor them.

-The weaker (bottom 4 opponent) are scheduled away from home so we have a chance to be more competitive away this time in comparison to our horror shows (barring 2 good Tests) away from home against NZ, Aus, England and South Africa.

So it’s a fair post by the OP with no arrogance at display.

+Pakistan have a great opportunity to lift themselves up from this rock bottom position and build a real momentum now for the next two years.

+Pakistan can now identify a long term coach and coaching staff who are going to help them on this mission of restoring the team’s lost quality in Test cricket.

+Pakistan has the opportunity now to keep a squad of good/fit/athletic cricketers for the next two years with a proper strategy of how they will deal with teams at home and how they will challenge the opponents away from home.

Best of luck Pakistan. It really couldn’t get easier than this considering the difficult times we have endured as a team in recent history.

 

[Rana]

West Indies at home are a good side. Holder Roach and Gabriel will trouble our inexperienced batting line up.

Sri Lanka always does well against us, they turn into the 1980’s WI team when we play them.

Bangladesh could surprise us, I feel our players will probably think it’s a stroll in the park, and with Shakib back in the team you just never know.




I’ll run out the house in my kachi if Pak beats SA at home.

Bro I don’t want to get my hopes up high knowing it’s Pakistan cricket at the end of the day....but from the SA commentators in the SL series, they didn’t sound too optimistic about the possibility of having to play spin in the sub continent. That’s the key. Spin, spin them to death.

 

[Markhor]

If West Indies produce bouncy pitches like the ones we saw against England in 2019, we will get absolutely slaughtered.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan need a solid, SOLID middle order for their away series.

3. Azhar
4. Babar
5. Fawad
6. Rizwan

These guys will have to really battle hard for us. Maybe Azhar move into the opening position and Kamran Ghulam or Saud Shaqeel is ready to step up and do the job for us.

 

[aloo paratha]

We lost to Zimbabwe in 2013? Why don’t you mention that? Also the series win against West Indies in 2017, was our first ever series win in West Indies. So don’t act like it’s a forgone conclusion that we will beat West Indies.

where did I act like it's a foregone conclusion?

 

[Rana]

This thread has [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] written all over it

 

[Hyperion66]

I have a couple of feelings about this topic

1. This thread will not age well.
2. Pak is gonna miss UAE real bad real soon.

BD and SL both are going to be real tricky for Pak. Hell, if Windies make bouncy pitches the likes of Gabriel and Holder will feast on your poor batting. On top of that you are hosting some real power houses at home. Do not count your chickens before they hatch.

 

[Savak]

Historically Pakistan has mostly done well at home when their pacers and spinners have done well together. Preparing too much of a green wicket or spinning wicket has mostly resulted in a disaster. Pakistani wickets are also suitable for stroke play, outfields are pretty fast so batsmen get value for their shots

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Unless we play our games in Karachi or Multan the SENA countries will blow us away on those phattas.

Can't believe Pak planned a game in Rawalpindi against SA. Rabada, Lungi, Nortje will feel like playing @ Johannesburg. That wicket is the fastest for pacers in Asia.

 

[MMHS]

I think, “easy (no difficult)” was a wrong choice of word, but it’s true as well that on papers PAK has a much easier draw this time compared to the previous one. However, I don’t think ZIM series is part of WTC.

Theoretically, every series offering 120 points, PAK can expect to score around 300-360 points from away series (win at least 2, draw two or one) which is massive - home or away these series, you can expect PAK to fight equally or better.

The difference is in home series - SAF, AUS, ENG & NZ - in last round, all four were away series and it was against PTC 3-0, 2-0, 1-0 & 2-0 - and those two draws inUK had massive blessings from rain God. Worst you can expect from PAK is very tight four series losses (1-2) or draws (1-1).

However, this is the most aged PAK Test team in my memory, even if they replace Abbas with Hasan (but that balances out with Naseem’s exclusion) and the back ups are not that good, neither experienced. PAK batting is much better than bowling these days - simple reason is that the batting is much more experienced. Once this alters, I’m not sure.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Pakistan needs to prepare proper turning wickets for all these sides. That is the only Pakistan will have a distinct advantage.

England’s overall lineup against spin is actually better than Australia’s except Smith. If Pakistan can somehow negate him, Australia will fold more easily than England.

Nevertheless, the Lyon factor makes Australia the bigger threat.

There are very few ways to get Smith out, but the fact remains that if Yasir has done anything of note in overseas tours, it's that he's taken Smith's wicket a fair few number of times. I'd back him to do the same on a spinning track.

England's batsmen can play spin, especially the likes of Root. However, I don't back them against a wrist-spinner on a spinning track, they'll get exposed, especially their openers and players like Bairstow.

Overall, I agree that if Pakistan wants to win against these teams, we need to go in with proper spinning tracks. The threat that Nathan Lyon poses will always be there, be it a flat deck or a spinning track. The key to realize is that Lyon takes a lot of time to set up a batsman, but having a solid defense and knowing when to come forward and hang back can make it easier to play him. The point is, you can't let him settle, because if he settles in, he can take 10 scalps easily.

 

[szrana007]

I have a couple of feelings about this topic

1. This thread will not age well.
2. Pak is gonna miss UAE real bad real soon.

BD and SL both are going to be real tricky for Pak. Hell, if Windies make bouncy pitches the likes of Gabriel and Holder will feast on your poor batting.
On top of that you are hosting some real power houses at home.
Do not count your chickens before they hatch.

Powerhouse England hasn't beaten Pakistan in an away test match let alone a series since 2000. Same goes for powerhouse Australia too, who are yet to win an away test match against Pakistan since 2002.

 

[Mesozoic]

West Indies would start as favourites in a home series against Pakistan if they are at full strength and prepare wickets like the ones against England and India last time around.

Arguably even Sri Lanka... unless Pakistan unearths a quality spinner to partner Yasir Shah.

Bangladesh....it'd be 50-50. Surely not an easy proposition.

And I'll be really surprised if Pakistan manages to beat even 2 out of the visiting SENA teams.

 

[RyanRyan10]

West Indies would start as favourites in a home series against Pakistan if they are at full strength and prepare wickets like the ones against England and India last time around.

Arguably even Sri Lanka... unless Pakistan unearths a quality spinner to partner Yasir Shah.

Bangladesh....it'd be 50-50. Surely not an easy proposition.

And I'll be really surprised if Pakistan manages to beat even 2 out of the visiting SENA teams.

Pakistan will all the series

Misbah the saviour will win the hearts of Pakistan fans again.

 

[Titan24]

No easy series for Pak until they get their overall approach, selections and combinations right. SA series will give decent indication of where its headed.

 

[Mesozoic]

Pakistan will all the series

Misbah the saviour will win the hearts of Pakistan fans again.

Well we'll see.

 

[Rana]

No easy series for Pak until they get their overall approach, selections and combinations right. SA series will give decent indication of where its headed.

I think if Yasir Shah wants to continue to remain a passenger and not turn up...he should also be booted like Abbas

 

[Titan24]

I think if Yasir Shah wants to continue to remain a passenger and not turn up...he should also be booted like Abbas

SA series is an important one for him, better performances and impact would be expected from him at home.

 

[sweep_shot]

Away tour in West Indies may not be easy. West Indies now have a decent attack. Also, they are strong at home.

Other away tours are easy. I agree.

 

[arunpsm]

Can someone do a player profiling and/or H2H between Pak 20 members and visiting Saffas? There are new and supposedly exciting youngsters coming thru in both sides...

 

[Buffet]

Time for golden era threads?

 

[Hyperion66]

Powerhouse England hasn't beaten Pakistan in an away test match let alone a series since 2000. Same goes for powerhouse Australia too, who are yet to win an away test match against Pakistan since 2002.

Cool I guess, you got nothing to worry then.

Just wanna point out one more thing that this is probably the weakest Pakistan test team in history so not sure how relevant your past records are.

 

[shamaan]

West Indies would start as favourites in a home series against Pakistan if they are at full strength and prepare wickets like the ones against England and India last time around.

Arguably even Sri Lanka... unless Pakistan unearths a quality spinner to partner Yasir Shah.

Bangladesh....it'd be 50-50. Surely not an easy proposition.

And I'll be really surprised if Pakistan manages to beat even 2 out of the visiting SENA teams.

West indies its 50/50

Sri lanka and bangaldesh pakistan defonitely faviroutes

They will beat england but may struggle against austrlia

 

[shamaan]

I think if Yasir Shah wants to continue to remain a passenger and not turn up...he should also be booted like Abbas

dont worry wasim wont waste any time on players who dont peform

 

[Amjid Javed]

Home series

Win vs SA
Win vs Eng
Win/draw vs Aus
We have struggled against NZ and that will be toughest out of 4 series

Away we will beat zimbo and bangla.

SL/WI will be tough and wudnt be surprised if we lost both or atleast one of these

Overall good fixtures to help build current test team

 

[Mesozoic]

West indies its 50/50

Sri lanka and bangaldesh pakistan defonitely faviroutes

They will beat england but may struggle against austrlia

You have to remember that this is not the Pakistan Test team of 2016 with MisYou and peak Azhar, Shafiq,.Sarf and Yasir....

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh will be 50-50 I guess and toss will play a huge role in the outcome of the game. If Pak wins the toss and bats first, they're slight favourites but otherwise they'll most likely end up on the wrong side. Wheels will come off even if the target is 150.

England now have Leach (leftie who pak always struggles against), Moeen and Bess and most importantly the presence of x-factor players like Stokes, Butler, Archer, Curran etc have completely changed the dynamic. Won't be surprising if they get some "shock" results in the next couple of months in India.

 

[shamaan]

You have to remember that this is not the Pakistan Test team of 2016 with MisYou and peak Azhar, Shafiq,.Sarf and Yasir....

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh will be 50-50 I guess and toss will play a huge role in the outcome of the game. If Pak wins the toss and bats first, they're slight favourites but otherwise they'll most likely end up on the wrong side. Wheels will come off even if the target is 150.

England now have Leach (leftie who pak always struggles against), Moeen and Bess and most importantly the presence of x-factor players like Stokes, Butler, Archer, Curran etc have completely changed the dynamic. Won't be surprising if they get some "shock" results in the next couple of months in India.

Disagree we will beat them both.
They are good spinners in sena but bowling 30 overs a day is a different story.stokes hasnt done much against Pakistan we will beat england or a draw.

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Not a bad start at all

 

[Amjid Javed]

Every series since 2005 where we hear that this england team will beat pakistan in pakistan or UAE. Each time they have been pretty much hammered senseless. So bring on same comments again for next tour.

 

[szrana007]

Every series since 2005 where we hear that this england team will beat pakistan in pakistan or UAE. Each time they have been pretty much hammered senseless. So bring on same comments again for next tour.

Don't think anyone fears England. Its New Zealand who have become our bogey team. The series against them could well be Pak's most difficult home assignment, even though NZL haven't won a series in Pakistan since 1969.

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Such awful cricket from Pakistan batting throughout the series, yet they’re the favourites to win.

Any half decent team at their home would not let Pak get away with it that easily

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

1 won successfully, 7 remaining. Already at 5 after one series win.

 

[King_Kohli]

In the next ICC World Test Championship cycle, Pakistan’s home series are against Australia, England, New Zealand and away series against Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, West Indies. They won’t get a better opportunity to qualify for the final [in 2023].

 

[Mesozoic]

In the next ICC World Test Championship cycle, Pakistan’s home series are against Australia, England, New Zealand and away series against Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, West Indies. They won’t get a better opportunity to qualify for the final [in 2023].

To be honest it can go both ways..

Pakistan were favourites to win all their home series' in the current cycle (against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and even South Africa) and take atleast 300/360 home points.

But now with Australia, England and New Zealand, that's not the case anymore. All these teams are comfortably better than South Africa and more clutch than them. Pakistan would have to do extremely well to take even 240/360 points....

West Indies away is a toughie as well with their current pace attack and the sort of wickets they are preparing post 2018 at home. SL and Ban too are good enough to beat Pakistan on home soil provided they don't get riddled with injuries.

There's every chance that Pak will get lesser WTC points then than now.

 

[hitthestump]

In the next ICC World Test Championship cycle, Pakistan’s home series are against Australia, England, New Zealand and away series against Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, West Indies. They won’t get a better opportunity to qualify for the final [in 2023].

Which is a farce, because Pakistan are in no way even close to the top 4 in test match cricket.

 

[saeed5646]

To be honest it can go both ways..

Pakistan were favourites to win all their home series' in the current cycle (against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and even South Africa) and take atleast 300/360 home points.

But now with Australia, England and New Zealand, that's not the case anymore. All these teams are comfortably better than South Africa and more clutch than them. Pakistan would have to do extremely well to take even 240/360 points....

West Indies away is a toughie as well with their current pace attack and the sort of wickets they are preparing post 2018 at home. SL and Ban too are good enough to beat Pakistan on home soil provided they don't get riddled with injuries.

There's every chance that Pak will get lesser WTC points then than now.

Bd lol they just got owned by depleted westindies .

 

[Mesozoic]

Bd lol they just got owned by depleted westindies .

Shakib was a huge miss man. Even a solid team like India is struggling to cope with the loss of Jadeja. So you can only imagine how much of an impact Shakib has on a team like Bangladesh. He has won them multiple tests against the likes of Australia and England with his bowling alone in the fourth innings.

Of course without shakib, Pakistan are firm favourites but with him fit and firing, its a different equation altogether.

 

[Rana]

Shakib was a huge miss man. Even a solid team like India is struggling to cope with the loss of Jadeja. So you can only imagine how much of an impact Shakib has on a team like Bangladesh. He has won them multiple tests against the likes of Australia and England with his bowling alone in the fourth innings.

Of course without shakib, Pakistan are firm favourites but with him fit and firing, its a different equation altogether.

Oh yeah as if we don’t have left arm cobras of our own...

 

[saeed5646]

Shakib was a huge miss man. Even a solid team like India is struggling to cope with the loss of Jadeja. So you can only imagine how much of an impact Shakib has on a team like Bangladesh. He has won them multiple tests against the likes of Australia and England with his bowling alone in the fourth innings.

Of course without shakib, Pakistan are firm favourites but with him fit and firing, its a different equation altogether.

Bd is one of the worse test cricket team .i don't know where you are coming from with or without shakib their fast bowling is toothless which is key to success in test cricket .

shakib has terrible "bowling" record in test against pak
4 matches only 9 wicket with bowling average of 64

 

[naseem]

Kiwis will be a tough one....don't. Know wheather Aus will tour Pak......SL. away won't b easy ....there is nobody to play. Root like innings....

 

[Mesozoic]

Bd is one of the worse test cricket team .i don't know where you are coming from with or without shakib their fast bowling is toothless which is key to success in test cricket .

shakib has terrible "bowling" record in test against pak
4 matches only 9 wicket with bowling average of 64

I know they are a bad test team and probably the worst among the top9 but at home...they have been churning out good results (by their standards)
since 2016. 1-1 against Australia, 1-1 against England (could have been 2-0 if not for a freak collapse when they were 50 away with 5 wickets in hand), 2-0 against WI etc. And you don't need fast bowlers to do well in Bangladesh....

Don't think Shakib has played a test against Pakistan since 2014 or something. He has improved leaps and bounds over the years and the current Pak side aren't exactly the best at playing SLAO...to put it mildly.

 

[Mesozoic]

Oh yeah as if we don’t have left arm cobras of our own...

Yeah if you think Nauman ali and Zafar gohar are at the same level as Shakib, then definitely... Why not?