Pakistan Instigating Stone Pelting in Kashmir Using WhatsApp: J&K Police

[czar]

New Delhi: Jammu and Kashmir Police believe that Pakistan is not just provoking but using social media platforms like WhatsApp to organise Kashmiri youth to pelt stones at security forces.

In a recent case registered in Srinagar, J&K police have alleged that multiple WhatsApp groups with Pakistani administrators have been put in place to organise stone pelters.

These groups allegedly provided precise location, time of an encounter that is underway and ask youngsters to reach there.

"As soon as an encounter begins, precise information about location is sent over by ground workers of Pakistan-based terror groups asking youngsters to gather at the site," a police officer told CNN-News18. Police also claim that investigation has revealed that these groups also put links on these platforms connecting youth from one area with the next.

DGP, J&K, S P Vaid told CNN-News18, “It’s a fact that social media is being misused by enemies of the country.”

In Budgam, three civilians were killed after they started pelting stones at the Army and paramilitary forces even as efforts were on to flush out a terrorists holed up in a house. About 63 CRPF men were injured in the clashes.

Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti appealed to youth to not indulge in stone pelting. "If you have a grievance, please speak to the administration rather than pick up stones," she told the media after the Budgam incident.

www.news18.com/news/india/pakistan-...-valley-using-whatsapp-jk-police-1365632.html

Other sources indicate that monetary benefits are being provided to lure the Youth into stone pelting and demonstrations by groups across the border.

 

[javiersuka]

I will agree about the money part. Even during the period of demonitisation, all these troublemakers had gone into hiding.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This is pretty desperate stuff. Usually it is bombings or terrorism which is blamed on nefarious designs of enemy nations, now the ISI is instigating stone throwing?


Still it beats spying pigeons so perhaps we should not be so cynical.

 

[czar]

This is pretty desperate stuff. Usually it is bombings or terrorism which is blamed on nefarious designs of enemy nations, now the ISI is instigating stone throwing?


Still it beats spying pigeons so perhaps we should not be so cynical.

It has been confirmed by the Intelligence agencies. Don't know why would you be so skeptical ?

Do you think it's a coincidence that the Kashmiri youth somehow always locale the encounter site boy themselves and no 3rd party assistance?

 

[Pakpak]

Wow, monetary incentives! Well then it would be easier to counter it, super-power India has more money, just offer them more and our evil lords won't bribe them.

 

[czar]

Wow, monetary incentives! Well then it would be easier to counter it, super-power India has more money, just offer them more and our evil lords won't bribe them.

It's a fact. You can learn about it if you can keep an open and unbiased mind against your country.

Zakir Ahmad Bhat, Farooq Ahmad Lone, Wasim Ahmed Khan, Mushtaq Veeri and Ibrahim Khan made startling confessions: from being on the payroll of their underground masters to carrying out deadly attacks on security forces, public servants and property in the troubled region.

"It's Rs 5,000-Rs 7,000 (a month) and clothes. Sometimes shoes as well," said Bhat when asked whether he was paid to charge at security forces with stones.

Around 4,000 security personnel were among the wounded. Two jawans were reportedly among the dead. But for pelters like Farooq Ahmad Lone, violent agitations are their livelihood.

"It could be Rs 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 or even Rs 5,000," said Lone, quoting his daily income from organizing shutdowns and stone-throwing demonstrations.

"We have been pelting stones since 2008." Wasim Ahmed Khan put his monthly stipend from rock-hurling protests at Rs 5,000-Rs 6,000. For accomplice Veeri, it's Rs 700 a day on weekdays and up to Rs 1,000 on holy Fridays.

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/jammu-...s-hizbul-mujahideen-burhan-wani/1/915751.html

It's shocking how the youth are being exploited for their poverty.

 

[Pakpak]

It's a fact. You can learn about it if you can keep an open and unbiased mind against your country.





http://m.indiatoday.in/story/jammu-...s-hizbul-mujahideen-burhan-wani/1/915751.html

It's shocking how the youth are being exploited for their poverty.

How am I being biased? I am simply taking your story at face-value and giving you a simple solution. If the problem is monetary, and extreme poverty in a supposed powerhouse country then I guess I should be proud that for a failed economy we're doing well while our supposed super-power neighbours are being out-bid by us easily for a few thousand rupees.

 

[hussain123]

One of kids killed yesterday is a son of multi millionaire and a famous business man of that area.desperation to defend the state sponsored murders has turned india hypernationalist media into beasts with not a semblance of conscience.same india today few days published a fake report about british parliament's resolution on gilgit baltistan.

 

[Saeed]

Sounds reasonable. Similar things are happening in other countries too, for example George soros pays protesters to protest. Who taught that guy with red shirt the rock throwing technique? This is a special technique and it is meant to penetrate the defenses of Police.

 

[Napa]

Wow, monetary incentives! Well then it would be easier to counter it, super-power India has more money, just offer them more and our evil lords won't bribe them.

This solution would not work for the simple reason that all youth would then claim that they would become terrorists if they were not paid by the Indian government.

 

[Pakpak]

This solution would not work for the simple reason that all youth would then claim that they would become terrorists if they were not paid by the Indian government.

Give them jobs then, your dear Indian poster above highlighted how the youth are poverty-stricken. For a country that keeps on bleating about its economic prowess and supposed super-power status, surely minor economic development guaranteeing INR 7,000 wouldn't be too much to ask. Especially if such a small sum could essentially stop such ''terrorists'' from being bribed by Pakistan and end the Kashmir headache for India once and for all.

 

[Napa]

Give them jobs then, your dear Indian poster above highlighted how the youth are poverty-stricken. For a country that keeps on bleating about its economic prowess and supposed super-power status, surely minor economic development guaranteeing INR 7,000 wouldn't be too much to ask. Especially if such a small sum could essentially stop such ''terrorists'' from being bribed by Pakistan and end the Kashmir headache for India once and for all.

The Indian economy is growing at a 7%+ rate, so things are definitely getting better. However there is a whole lot of poor people in India, I don't think anyone who is not deluded will deny that.

Economic development in Kashmir is difficult as long as the troubles persist.

 

[Pakpak]

The Indian economy is growing at a 7%+ rate, so things are definitely getting better. However there is a whole lot of poor people in India, I don't think anyone who is not deluded will deny that.

Economic development in Kashmir is difficult as long as the troubles persist.

And the reason trouble persists, according to the OP and his numerous quoted Indian sources, is because the youth need an average of 5k-7k INR. Considering how much of a headache the entire issue is not to mention the financial drain it is to keep 700,000 troops stationed there, one would assume for a self-lauded super-power throwing away some tidbits and jobs to overcome a mere few-thousand rupee bribes would be a doddle and with tremendous advantages. You'd wipe out these pesty-little troublemakers. That is, ofcourse, me taking the claims in the OP at face-value.

 

[Madplayer]

One of kids killed yesterday is a son of multi millionaire and a famous business man of that area.desperation to defend the state sponsored murders has turned india hypernationalist media into beasts with not a semblance of conscience.same india today few days published a fake report about british parliament's resolution on gilgit baltistan.

It is completely useless to argue with such people. Their biharis come in numbers to kashmir to earn livelihood and Kashmiris give them double the amount they receive in India. And they Think Kashmiris will risk their lives for few hundereds. This is nothing but desperation on their part and shows how shallow they have become. This arrogance will corrode the consciousness of their own nation and that is exactly what we are seeing these days.

 

[90MPH]

The OP is completely deluded if he believes the utter tosh that the trouble in Kashmir is happening because the protesters are getting paid to do it.

The amount of Bakvaas one reads from the Indian media regarding Kashmir is simply mind blowing, such is the bias.

Instead of blaming everything on Pakistan how about a little introspection ?? Just even a little, because when you look inwards with independent media sources maybe you will know the truth is closer to home.

But maybe that's too much to ask so keep nodding your heads to the baloney you are being fed.

 

[Napa]

And the reason trouble persists, according to the OP and his numerous quoted Indian sources, is because the youth need an average of 5k-7k INR. Considering how much of a headache the entire issue is not to mention the financial drain it is to keep 700,000 troops stationed there, one would assume for a self-lauded super-power throwing away some tidbits and jobs to overcome a mere few-thousand rupee bribes would be a doddle and with tremendous advantages. You'd wipe out these pesty-little troublemakers. That is, ofcourse, me taking the claims in the OP at face-value.

If you come up with a scheme where you could give Rs. 7K per month to the youth AND ensure they would also not take money from the other side and continue making trouble, I am sure the government of India would be interested.

 

[Napa]

One of kids killed yesterday is a son of multi millionaire and a famous business man of that area.desperation to defend the state sponsored murders has turned india hypernationalist media into beasts with not a semblance of conscience.same india today few days published a fake report about british parliament's resolution on gilgit baltistan.

It takes all kinds to make the world. Even the son of Ethan Allen's CEO was killed fighting Indian troops. That however does not mean that some do it for money, some do it due to their convictions, and most do it for a mixture of reasons.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's a fact. You can learn about it if you can keep an open and unbiased mind against your country.


It's shocking how the youth are being exploited for their poverty.

The truth is more likely to be it's shocking how youth are being tortured into making these silly confessions.

I would assume millions of stones have been thrown at Indian security forces for decades. Pakistan isn't rich enough to pay piece rate for stone throwing and there is no need, it's a natural reaction to occupation.

 

[Pakpak]

If you come up with a scheme where you could give Rs. 7K per month to the youth AND ensure they would also not take money from the other side and continue making trouble, I am sure the government of India would be interested.

For a country who brags about its economy this should be a relatively easy job. Your newspapers above state the sole reason for stone throwing is money. Now if a failed economy like ours is, allegedly, managing to bribe these youths by giving them freebies of INR 5000 then you guys should easily be able to treble or quadruple that. Unless ofcourse, God forbid, your newspapers and media are lying and there is more to protests than minor handouts of cash?

 

[Napa]

For a country who brags about its economy this should be a relatively easy job. Your newspapers above state the sole reason for stone throwing is money. Now if a failed economy like ours is, allegedly, managing to bribe these youths by giving them freebies of INR 5000 then you guys should easily be able to treble or quadruple that. Unless ofcourse, God forbid, your newspapers and media are lying and there is more to protests than minor handouts of cash?

I don't think you are getting the point. What is to stop a youth from taking money from both the Government and the terrorists?

 

[Pakpak]

I don't think you are getting the point. What is to stop a youth from taking money from both the Government and the terrorists?

That would make them idiots and lead to them not getting money from either. I am getting the point, but you're not.

a) Indian newspapers claim that the reason youths throw stones is because Pakistanis are paying them 5,000 INR due to the extreme poverty they face
b) I am told, again and again, how India is an economic powerhouse (which it is) so logically it should be no problem for India to offer ten times more than Pakistan (who's economy is in dumps) and finish this issue once and for all and vanquish these greedy stone-throwing troublemakers
c) If Indians offer them, say 20,000, you'd have to be a monumental idiot to risk the 20,000 golden egg by also accepting 5,000 from the other side. Its basic common sense.

I didn't know this Kashmir issue was so simple and the only trouble with these protests was a few thousand rupees from an almost bankrupt nation. If that is the case then an economic giant should be able to resolve this, which would:

a) end the protests once and for all
b) reduce the load on policing and hundreds of thousands of security personnel stationed, therefore saving the Indian state countless expenses
c) mithai all around

 

[PakLFC]

Kashmiris have been throwing stones for decades. India as always trying to deflect the attention to Pakistan instead of looking inwards. Then they say we are not obsessed with Pakistan!

 

[Rafa]

Easier to blame Pakistan for their own problems instead of looking for a solution.