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Aussies slip to 34-year rankings low

Australia's under-fire ODI team has slipped to a 34-year low, dropping to sixth position on the ICC's latest rankings table after losing the opening two fixtures of the ongoing five-match series against England.

And only a remarkable come-from-behind series win, or rain, can save them from further unwanted history; never before has an Australian side lost four consecutive bilateral series (min two matches).

With losses to the world's No.1 ODI team in London and Cardiff, Australia has fallen to 102 rankings points to sit a fraction of a point below 2017 Champions Trophy winners Pakistan.

Among the playing squad, only Shaun Marsh was alive the last time Australia found themselves in sixth position – that was in January 1984, some 11 months before current captain Tim Paine was born and six months after a group stage exit at the 1983 World Cup.

It has been a swift fall for the defending world champions. Less than two years ago they were ranked No.1 heading into an away series against South Africa. But when an under-strength squad with a group of rookie fast bowlers was whitewashed 5-0 by the Proteas (the first time Australia had lost a bilateral series 5-0), cracks were revealed in a 50-over game plan that suddenly looked dated. That was particularly the case in comparison to a revamped England, who were smashing record totals and rising in the rankings as Australia's lofty status slipped.

Despite the home successes against New Zealand (3-0) and Pakistan (4-1) that followed the disaster in South Africa, Australia have won just nine times (eight at home) out of 23 completed ODIs since to ultimately find themselves in their current predicament.

More recently, a stretch of 13 defeats in 15 completed ODIs is unprecedented in the history of the five-time World Cup winners.

Paine said he was confident Australia would be able to hit back against England in the third ODI at Nottingham on Tuesday.

"I think we can (win), I really do," he said. "I think our best cricket is good enough to beat these guys, we just haven't put the complete package together.

"In the first game we didn't bat well, and (in Cardiff) we didn't bowl as well as we would have liked."

Shaun Marsh, who scored a fine hundred in a losing cause in Cardiff, was hopeful but realistic in his post-match press conference on Saturday.

"We know we need to improve a fair bit to get that win," he said. "We're heading in the right direction but we still need lots of improvement.

"Hopefully we can see that in a few days' time and try and get back into this series."
 
After how long have we returned to #5? Don't remember us being higher than #6 post-fixing era.
 
After how long have we returned to #5? Don't remember us being higher than #6 post-fixing era.

I can't point out exact time, but I think Pakistan was ranked higher than #6 some time in this period.
 
Ahh never thought I’d see this day after we slumped to #9 after losing to Bangladesh in 2015 post WC. What a time that was... the lowest ever in our ODI history. At that time and in the previous 4 years if you watched TenSports they would do this thing where they’d present the rankinngs and some English guy would be narrating, and for the longest time he said the exact same thing since we were always ranked between #6-9 at that time, and I used to wonder what would he say if we were number 5.

Idk it’s probably not that big of a deal being #5, but still, seems nice to have the right to say it after so long, and I hope we only move up from here.

/cue ranking doesn’t matter posts :afridi
 
It’s been a good 6 years since we’ve been ranked in top 5, I’m 90% sure of this even without looking at stats.

Source: bro trust me
 
Can we move past the fluke nonsense?

This is good progression from Pakistan and long may it continue, inshaAllah.
 
Pakistani fans celebrating number five ranking as if they are number one in all three formats at the same time. :))
 
The way few posters in this thread are celebrating their ascendancy to 5th rank is just 😂😂😂😂
 
We'll be top 4 in all 3 formats by 2020. Been saying this for a while, and hardly surprised to see this progress.
 
Pakistani fans celebrating number five ranking as if they are number one in all three formats at the same time. :))

The way few posters in this thread are celebrating their ascendancy to 5th rank is just &#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;

Celebrations? Guys you high? I dont see any. Only thing I am seeing and which is factual as well i.e Pak has improved more than any team in terms of rankings over last 3 years. From 9 to 5, this is huge improvement and deserves all the appreciation or celebration. :ssa
 
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We'll be top 4 in all 3 formats by 2020. Been saying this for a while, and hardly surprised to see this progress.

You overestimate the ability of pak team all the time.

If you say it's 2020 to reach top 4, i am afraid reality will be harsher and future looks bleak.
 
If only Hussain Talat and Asif Ali can progress well to the ODI team and start performing the way expected from them we might get to top 3 by 2020. :shadab
 
You overestimate the ability of pak team all the time.

If you say it's 2020 to reach top 4, i am afraid reality will be harsher and future looks bleak.

How is he overestimating when Pak is already at 5-6. Its just a 10 point difference and if team performs well then its a possibility in 2019 let alone 2020.

Only a biased person can say that future looks bleak. Pakistan has given more potential stars to international cricket in last year or two than any other team. If with Fakhar Zaman (28), Hassan Ali (24), Shadab Khan (19), Babar Azam (23), Usman Shinwari (24), Faheem Ashraf (24), Mohammad Nawaz (23), Rumman Raees (26), Hussain Talat (22), Asif Ali (26), Imam Ul Haq (22), Shaheen Shah (17) etc. If with all these players out of which hassan recently was no1 in ODI bowlers ranking, Shadab is no2 in T20s, Babar Azam is no1 in T20s and in Top 5 in ODIs. If this is bleak future than kindly show me a brighter future in terms of talent on display.

Please dont tell me Unadkat!!! :afridi1
 
Waiting for [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] the meme to show up and tell us how its all a fluke and our original ranking is actually 9th and rankings dont matter now that Pakistan is rising in them.

This is some good stuff and of course much to the dismay of the Indian posters who cannot bear us even celebrating positive progression in our cricket. So much for we want a stronger Pakistan **. Exposed every time.

Hopefully, this progression goes upwards in the test format as well.
 
You overestimate the ability of pak team all the time.

If you say it's 2020 to reach top 4, i am afraid reality will be harsher and future looks bleak.

I fear for the future for the indian team with a weak middle order and over reliance on top 3 bats.
 
You overestimate the ability of pak team all the time.

If you say it's 2020 to reach top 4, i am afraid reality will be harsher and future looks bleak.

I don't need you to tell me what to expect and what not to expect from my team.
 
I fear for the future for the indian team with a weak middle order and over reliance on top 3 bats.
That's certainly a concern but the subject of the thread is Pakistan and hence I request you don't derail the thread please.
 
How is he overestimating when Pak is already at 5-6. Its just a 10 point difference and if team performs well then its a possibility in 2019 let alone 2020.

Only a biased person can say that future looks bleak. Pakistan has given more potential stars to international cricket in last year or two than any other team. If with Fakhar Zaman (28), Hassan Ali (24), Shadab Khan (19), Babar Azam (23), Usman Shinwari (24), Faheem Ashraf (24), Mohammad Nawaz (23), Rumman Raees (26), Hussain Talat (22), Asif Ali (26), Imam Ul Haq (22), Shaheen Shah (17) etc. If with all these players out of which hassan recently was no1 in ODI bowlers ranking, Shadab is no2 in T20s, Babar Azam is no1 in T20s and in Top 5 in ODIs. If this is bleak future than kindly show me a brighter future in terms of talent on display.

Please dont tell me Unadkat!!! :afridi1

I am guessing you haven't known the history.

Square Drive has been a famous pak poster who make bold claims and exaggerates the ability of pak team. There's no harm in that. Every team has fans like that.

But when your unrealistically optimistic fan is giving you 2 years time to go one place up, it means even the optimistic fan doesn't have that much faith in the team.

And hence, coming back to reality, it will look bleak.
 
I don't need you to tell me what to expect and what not to expect from my team.

I didn't told what you to expect or not.

Based upon your statement, I gave a conclusion that future looks bleak. That's a conclusion drawn upon your words, not mine.
 
I didn't told what you to expect or not.

Based upon your statement, I gave a conclusion that future looks bleak. That's a conclusion drawn upon your words, not mine.

It's not a statement I'm making now. If you look at my original post, I've clearly mentioned that I've been saying it for a while, i.e. since we were left in the ditches at #9 in ODIs by Azhar and Misbah, while also going through a phase where we were 6th in T20s and 7th in Tests (still ongoing).

We are well on track, which is my point.
 
Finally, we have broken into the top five once again! A long time coming but worth the wait! This by no means implies that we have all of a sudden become world beaters however, with most of the roster in their early 20s I expect more inclination from these lot towards the top 3.

I would be extremely happy if we make it top three in all formats in the coming 2-3 seasons, along with the occasional world trophy :afridi
 
Pakistan don’t deserve to be ranked in top 5. It’s a disgrace.

Although they are the best ODI team in the world. That I have no doubt about.

Bhaijaan
 
Pakistani fans and their choti choti khushiyaan.

Congratulations everyone, enjoy this monumental achievement.
 
I'm a Pakistani fan but I am not looking too much into this. Not many other nations would celebrate going up to 5, which still isn't that great. Performances matter more than rankings. The Zimbabwe series won't mean much, if we can beat NZ and Australia in UAE in ODI's then I will be satisified :) . The Champions Trophy wasn't a fluke as we played amazing cricket there and were deserved winners but we need to build on that. Can't be taking one step forward and then another step back, as we got thrashed 5-0 by NZ which was our first high-profile series since the Champions Trophy.
 
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Going by the celebration that pak fans are doing in this thread, CT win seems like a fluke.

Because celebrating like this after reaching #5 means, in reality, even the own fans don't have that much trust in Pakistan teams ability.

They wished Pakistan to win the CT but didn't expect that their wish will come true.

.... This is not me saying it. This is what the celebration implying.....

.... That CT was fluke indeed.
 
Going by the celebration that pak fans are doing in this thread, CT win seems like a fluke.

Because celebrating like this after reaching #5 means, in reality, even the own fans don't have that much trust in Pakistan teams ability.

They wished Pakistan to win the CT but didn't expect that their wish will come true.

.... This is not me saying it. This is what the celebration implying.....

.... That CT was fluke indeed.

Pakistan was by far the best team in the CT.

They demolished RSA, England and India on their way.

In tournaments cricket Pakistan are the Germany of Cricket.
 
Pakistani fans and their choti choti khushiyaan.

Congratulations everyone, enjoy this monumental achievement.

Apologies that some of us like to enjoy the "choti" things in life. Not all of us are on our own path to greatness and can claim to have a moral/philosophical/ideological/theoretical high ground.
 
Pakistani fans and their choti choti khushiyaan.

Congratulations everyone, enjoy this monumental achievement.

At least, you have come out and accepted that you are not a Pakistani fan. Well done.
 
Pakistan are a hit and miss and posses a team to win big tournaments.. Bilaterals are useless anyways, Pakistan will be too 3 favourites to win 2019 WC. That is what matters.
 
Pakistani fans don’t want to admit it, but deep down, they realize that the Champions Trophy was a fluke and the way they are celebrating a mediocre ranking is further proof.

Not a single Pakistani fan would have put money on Pakistan winning the Champions Trophy, and they are justifying celebrating this mediocre ranking by asserting that it indicates progress and a step in the right direction.

However, winning the Champions Trophy is not progress or a step in the right direction - it is the final result of progressing, and the final destination of going in the right direction.
 
What a fluke :afridi

Can we move past the fluke nonsense?

This is good progression from Pakistan and long may it continue, inshaAllah.

Unfortunately - this is a fluke because we have moved up to no. 5 without having played an ODI series in a while and have only climbed up the rankings due to the incompetence of the Australian team.

Our last ODI series was a 5-0 whitewash to NZ so cannot really justify this “promotion”

However - I finally believe we are a better ODI team than Australia given the current state of affairs and I believe we can finally end our losing streak against them in bilaterals if we play them in a ODI series right now or in the near future
 
Unfortunately - this is a fluke because we have moved up to no. 5 without having played an ODI series in a while and have only climbed up the rankings due to the incompetence of the Australian team.

Our last ODI series was a 5-0 whitewash to NZ so cannot really justify this “promotion”

However - I finally believe we are a better ODI team than Australia given the current state of affairs and I believe we can finally end our losing streak against them in bilaterals if we play them in a ODI series right now or in the near future
I was speaking in general terms. Not particularly the ascension from 6th to 5th.

I don't know where we stand at the moment because the team is so inexperienced but they players we have accumulated since Misbah's retirement and the dead weight we've disposed of is in fact "progress."

The NZ series was played with a lot of dead weight. It was more competitive than the final result. Regardless, young teams need to see these experiences as a learning curve and quickly move on. I'm sure that's exactly what's Mickey has them thinking. That's why they were able to quickly bounce back in the T20 series as well as drawing in England after losing to SL.
 
Congrats guys.

Bangladesh and especially West Indies should take inspiration from this. With hard work, even a rank 9 team can reach rank 5.
 
Congrats guys.

Bangladesh and especially West Indies should take inspiration from this. With hard work, even a rank 9 team can reach rank 5.

Hardwork + talent. Your have to produce guys like Shadab, Hassan, Fakhar, Babar etc to improve as a team.
 
Unfortunately - this is a fluke because we have moved up to no. 5 without having played an ODI series in a while and have only climbed up the rankings due to the incompetence of the Australian team.

Our last ODI series was a 5-0 whitewash to NZ so cannot really justify this “promotion”

However - I finally believe we are a better ODI team than Australia given the current state of affairs and I believe we can finally end our losing streak against them in bilaterals if we play them in a ODI series right now or in the near future

I agree but this Pak team has something about it. No matter how the Srl team which toured was but we were never that ruthless, we did beat them 5-0 in ODIs and then 3-0 in T20s.

NZ series is one of the most difficult at the moment and only two teams which are Eng and SA have been able to beat them them recently and that is also 3-2. Guptill wasnt fully available for the SA series.

Also for Pak we had Junaid, Shinwari and Imad were injured and Hafeez was unavailable to ball.
 
Ha silly Pakistan fans. I mean what a bunch of weirdos. Celebrating a small jump in rankings. Look don't you get it? we're a rubbish team and every time we win its a fluke. We need to stop supporting Pakistan and support other teams like India who are just born superior or perhaps England who are just better anyway. Sp can somebody rename this forum flukepassion? or perhaps "anyone-but-pak-passion?
 
Forget the absolute ranking but the last time Pakistan were rated higher than Australia in ODIs was back in 2002 when Pakistan beat OZ 2-1 in their own backyard! That is pretty good in my opinion. I think PAK will improve even further but ODI cricket looks exciting after a long time imo with no team being dominant. We might have a crackerjack of an open world cup next year.
 
It's funny seeing some of the Indians put down Pakistan when there is just a gap of two ranks between the two sides. :))


Arrogance in sport is not a very good thing as India found out on this day last year.
 
Going by the celebration that pak fans are doing in this thread, CT win seems like a fluke.

Because celebrating like this after reaching #5 means, in reality, even the own fans don't have that much trust in Pakistan teams ability.

They wished Pakistan to win the CT but didn't expect that their wish will come true.

.... This is not me saying it. This is what the celebration implying.....

.... That CT was fluke indeed.

The first post which really makes sense. Seriously guys, Pak has a very rich cricket history. Your legends must be crying seeing these days where Pak fans doing celebrations on achieving 5th rank. Pak has much more ability than 5th rank. They should be in top 3 across the formats. Future is bright.
 
How is he overestimating when Pak is already at 5-6. Its just a 10 point difference and if team performs well then its a possibility in 2019 let alone 2020.

Only a biased person can say that future looks bleak. Pakistan has given more potential stars to international cricket in last year or two than any other team. If with Fakhar Zaman (28), Hassan Ali (24), Shadab Khan (19), Babar Azam (23), Usman Shinwari (24), Faheem Ashraf (24), Mohammad Nawaz (23), Rumman Raees (26), Hussain Talat (22), Asif Ali (26), Imam Ul Haq (22), Shaheen Shah (17) etc. If with all these players out of which hassan recently was no1 in ODI bowlers ranking, Shadab is no2 in T20s, Babar Azam is no1 in T20s and in Top 5 in ODIs. If this is bleak future than kindly show me a brighter future in terms of talent on display.

Please dont tell me Unadkat!!! :afridi1

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Pakistani fans don’t want to admit it, but deep down, they realize that the Champions Trophy was a fluke and the way they are celebrating a mediocre ranking is further proof.

Not a single Pakistani fan would have put money on Pakistan winning the Champions Trophy, and they are justifying celebrating this mediocre ranking by asserting that it indicates progress and a step in the right direction.

However, winning the Champions Trophy is not progress or a step in the right direction - it is the final result of progressing, and the final destination of going in the right direction.

You have to be a total nincompoop to not understand a simple fact that Pakistani fans celebrating the movement upwards in terms of ranking is actually a VALIDATION of what Pakistan achieved in the Champions Trophy and the improvement in the Pakistani team's ranking since the CT is showing that the team never deserved the 9th ranking after the change in management and team.

Pakistani fans are happy because we see that all the hardwork that the team and management has put in is showing fruits and slowly and steadily we are rising back in cricket.

You want to put down Pakistan, but we keep rising up. We were 9th before the CT and we are 5th now.
 
You have to be a total nincompoop to not understand a simple fact that Pakistani fans celebrating the movement upwards in terms of ranking is actually a VALIDATION of what Pakistan achieved in the Champions Trophy and the improvement in the Pakistani team's ranking since the CT is showing that the team never deserved the 9th ranking after the change in management and team.

Pakistani fans are happy because we see that all the hardwork that the team and management has put in is showing fruits and slowly and steadily we are rising back in cricket.

You want to put down Pakistan, but we keep rising up. We were 9th before the CT and we are 5th now.

you are indeed spot on. How can I forget the way Pakistan validated its ranking following the Champions Trophy with the 5-0 thrashing in New Zealand, our only tough bilateral series since winning the Champions Trophy.

And of course the 5-0 win over the bottom-ranked Sri Lankan team. These are the two ODI series that we have played since the Champions Trophy.

What "validation" were you talking about again?

The amount of chest-thumping by Pakistani fans after the reality check in the New Zealand ODI series is hysterical - a series that proved what a flash in the pan the Champions Trophy was, and the fact that Pakistan is nowhere near good enough to compete with quality ODI teams barring an odd win.
 
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Pakistani fans don’t want to admit it, but deep down, they realize that the Champions Trophy was a fluke and the way they are celebrating a mediocre ranking is further proof.

Not a single Pakistani fan would have put money on Pakistan winning the Champions Trophy, and they are justifying celebrating this mediocre ranking by asserting that it indicates progress and a step in the right direction.

However, winning the Champions Trophy is not progress or a step in the right direction - it is the final result of progressing, and the final destination of going in the right direction.

one match can be fluke, but full tournament no way.
 
One thing to keep in mind, moving up because some other team is losing badly is not sustainable. Just to put it in perspective, this rank #5 will quickly become rank #6 if Aus wins even one game in currently ongoing series. Clearly, best way is to win consistently. Anyway, Pakistan is doing better than earlier and not sure why fans shouldn't feel happy about it.
 
I get the feeling that if we ever get to number 1 ranking there will still be people nitpicking and poking holes in our performances.
 
I get the feeling that if we ever get to number 1 ranking there will still be people nitpicking and poking holes in our performances.

Be assured. We are the number 1 team yet Pakistanis claim that ranking system is flawed, bcci conspiracy etc.
 
one match can be fluke, but full tournament no way.

When you play 10 tournaments and mistakenly performed well and won 1, its a fluke. Even after winning CT, if you guys still at #5, it is the best indication that Pakistan isn't a top tier odi team and that ct was a fluke.
 
When you play 10 tournaments and mistakenly performed well and won 1, its a fluke. Even after winning CT, if you guys still at #5, it is the best indication that Pakistan isn't a top tier odi team and that ct was a fluke.

Apologies if it still hurts bro but please let us be happy with our fluke. You can erase that day from your memory if that suits you.
 
Fluke has become the new "Fake News" slogan on PP. It would make sense if applied equally to not only Pakistan's wins but also to other top ranked teams.

Pakistan Wins - Fluke + a million excuses
Top Ranked Team Losses - Fluke + a million excuses
 
Can cement the spot by beating Australia in the ODI series. We will know how good this ODI team over the next year.
 
Congrats to PAK cricket & fans, I am one also (if it’s worthy of celebration).

I think, moving up in the table is easier than staying there; because now every loss to a lower ranked team would cost higher - and there are actually 7 teams below PAK in that table.

First task is to beat ZIM 5-0; then we’ll have some fantastic ODI series against NZ, SAF, AUS & ENG - 4 of the top 6 teams before WC.
 
When you play 10 tournaments and mistakenly performed well and won 1, its a fluke. Even after winning CT, if you guys still at #5, it is the best indication that Pakistan isn't a top tier odi team and that ct was a fluke.

CT win is not going to put any team from rank 8 to rank 1 in one go. Even if Pakistan had won every single game after CT, it wouldn't have put Pakistan at rank 1. That doesn't mean that Pakistan is bottom tier or anything like that. It simply means that everyone should hold their judgement till Pakistan plays more and see where they land up up in ranking after 2 years from now. If they play consistently well then ranking will take care of itself.
 
When you play 10 tournaments and mistakenly performed well and won 1, its a fluke. Even after winning CT, if you guys still at #5, it is the best indication that Pakistan isn't a top tier odi team and that ct was a fluke.


You are suffering from PTSD.
 
you are indeed spot on. How can I forget the way Pakistan validated its ranking following the Champions Trophy with the 5-0 thrashing in New Zealand, our only tough bilateral series since winning the Champions Trophy.

And of course the 5-0 win over the bottom-ranked Sri Lankan team. These are the two ODI series that we have played since the Champions Trophy.

What "validation" were you talking about again?

The amount of chest-thumping by Pakistani fans after the reality check in the New Zealand ODI series is hysterical - a series that proved what a flash in the pan the Champions Trophy was, and the fact that Pakistan is nowhere near good enough to compete with quality ODI teams barring an odd win.

Isnt it just beautiful that your fluke filter only applies to Pakistan?

Where was your fluke filter when the number one test team got owned by England at their own home?

Where was your fluke filter when the WC champions gets beaten by other teams in their LOI series?

You should have some shame before calling a tournament that was won by not just winning one match but a series of matches a fluke. But i believe, you are beyond that. You have sunk your reputation completely after the post CT meltdown.

Coming Asia cup and the next Pakistan ODI series, i predict you will end up resigning from the forum if you have any self respect left.
 
Good stuff from Pakistan. From being the worst LOI Pakistani team to Number 1 T20 ranked team in the world, champions in ODI, and drew series in Eng with a very inexperienced team. More success in recent couple of years than so called the best teams. :14:
 
CT win is not going to put any team from rank 8 to rank 1 in one go. Even if Pakistan had won every single game after CT, it wouldn't have put Pakistan at rank 1. That doesn't mean that Pakistan is bottom tier or anything like that. It simply means that everyone should hold their judgement till Pakistan plays more and see where they land up up in ranking after 2 years from now. If they play consistently well then ranking will take care of itself.

I agree CT win shouldn't put Pakistan in top 3. But since Pakistan was dwelling at the bottom of the pit then, winning against teams above continously plus winning the tournament gives them boost only to go for #6 or #7 above the teams which hardly play any odi altogether?

Highly unlikely unless Pakistan moved from zero to negative and CT win brought them a little over zero.
 
I was speaking in general terms. Not particularly the ascension from 6th to 5th.

I don't know where we stand at the moment because the team is so inexperienced but they players we have accumulated since Misbah's retirement and the dead weight we've disposed of is in fact "progress."

The NZ series was played with a lot of dead weight. It was more competitive than the final result. Regardless, young teams need to see these experiences as a learning curve and quickly move on. I'm sure that's exactly what's Mickey has them thinking. That's why they were able to quickly bounce back in the T20 series as well as drawing in England after losing to SL.

I agree but this Pak team has something about it. No matter how the Srl team which toured was but we were never that ruthless, we did beat them 5-0 in ODIs and then 3-0 in T20s.

NZ series is one of the most difficult at the moment and only two teams which are Eng and SA have been able to beat them them recently and that is also 3-2. Guptill wasnt fully available for the SA series.

Also for Pak we had Junaid, Shinwari and Imad were injured and Hafeez was unavailable to ball.

Fair points.

I think no. 5 is a good reflection of where the team stands right now - somewhere in the middle of the pack but as your young team continues to gain experience - we can only get better.

How I wish we fared better in NZ.... Had we won that series - we would be knocking on the door for 4th spot but as it is - the gap is too big to overcome anytime soon. If we win the ODI series against NZ 5-0 or 4-1 in October it will help close the gap considerably.

Unfortunately for us - playing the likes of Zimbabwe is not going to help one bit. I cannot understand for one second why we did not play a short ODI series during our tour of England? :13:
 
Pakistani fans should burn Sarfraz's and Mickey's statues and mourn for 40 days. Any happy behavior is just abnormal. Anyone who does so is a chest thumping delusional fan.

Regards,
Official fluke announcer of PP
 
It is evident that Aussies do not take non- tournament ODIs seriously. Come world cup, there will be entirely different personnel at the helm and they will be favourites.
 
As a rival, it makes me chuckle to see Pakistani fans celebrating 2 days of #5 ranking, but as a Cricket fan I find it quite sad. :(
 
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It's funny seeing some of the Indians put down Pakistan when there is just a gap of two ranks between the two sides. :))


Arrogance in sport is not a very good thing as India found out on this day last year.

India has been n.o 1 team for quite long time both in tests and odi. In odi , i dnt remember when was the last time india came out of top 3 odi rankings.
Currently india is at n.o 2, just 2 points behind england . Its just a matter of time again.
 
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Pakistani fans should burn Sarfraz's and Mickey's statues and mourn for 40 days. Any happy behavior is just abnormal. Anyone who does so is a chest thumping delusional fan.

Regards,
Official fluke announcer of PP

If you will celebrate mediocrity, you will stay mediocre. You have to have the hunger to reach higher and higher. Otherwise anyone will get content after reaching mediocrity if that's what one is praised for. That's how the system works in most cases.

If one is a true fan, he will obviously aim much higher than remaining in a tier with bunch of average teams.

If India is at #5, I will be severely criticising the team. Doesn't matter even if they took a leap from #10. I want India at the top. No other option.
 
One thing to keep in mind, moving up because some other team is losing badly is not sustainable. Just to put it in perspective, this rank #5 will quickly become rank #6 if Aus wins even one game in currently ongoing series. Clearly, best way is to win consistently. Anyway, Pakistan is doing better than earlier and not sure why fans shouldn't feel happy about it.
Pakistan has played only two ODI series since the CT, the last of which was six months back. Rubbish scheduling has made sure the team hasn't had the opportunity to develop momentum/learn from its mistakes and continue to improve on their ranking

Just look at the amount of T20s we have played and how these young players have improved in that format
 
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