Pakistan MUST adapt modern cricket like England did after the 2015 World Cup

[Bleedgreen4ever]

An ENG like revolution is needed in PAK cricket and to do that we need to rope in players like Sharjeel, Khushdil and some U19 players who average 40+ with SR 90+ and start scoring 300+ runs.

As far as domestic cricket is concerned it's already being revamped so let's see how that goes.

Happy to say our bowling is on track but spin is still far far behind other Asian nations.

The next world cup is in India and Pakistan must start their hunt for one or two specialist spinners immediately after this WC.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Just for fun, a gung-ho style team could be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Sharjeel Khan
3) Babar Azam(C)
4) Haris Sohail
5) Umar Akmal(Wk)
6) Imad Wasim
7) Asif Ali
8) Bilal Asif
9) Aamer Yamin
10) Faheem Ashraf
11) Hasan Ali

 

[Hasan123]

England had the players to play the modern way. Whilst I don't think Pakistan cricket doesn't have talented players. I seriously doubt we have the strength that England had after the 2015 WC to choose from.

Investing in batters like Zeeshan Malik, Saud Shakeel, and Saif Badar would be sensible decisions which improve Pakistan a lot.

 

[BlueBeamer]

Except PCB neither has the financial strength nor a world-class domestic setup which England has.

Talent pool is debatable.

 

[IAJ]

Just for fun, a gung-ho style team could be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Sharjeel Khan
3) Babar Azam(C)
4) Haris Sohail
5) Umar Akmal(Wk)
6) Imad Wasim
7) Asif Ali
8) Bilal Asif
9) Aamer Yamin
10) Faheem Ashraf
11) Hasan Ali

Will not work. Windies have 10 times better hitters in the team but what happend to them? You need Stamina/fitness, match awareness and gameplan to perform at this level.

 

[Abdullah]

An ENG like revolution is needed in PAK cricket and to do that we need to rope in players like Sharjeel, Khushdil and some U19 players who average 40+ with SR 90+ and start scoring 300+ runs.

As far as domestic cricket is concerned it's already being revamped so let's see how that goes.

Happy to say our bowling is on track but spin is still far far behind other Asian nations.

The next world cup is in India and Pakistan must start their hunt for one or two specialist spinners immediately after this WC.

The bit I don't get is that we have lost the same number of games in this world cup as this great England team?!?!!!
And the same number of games as NZ.
We don't need a revolution
Just get rid of the few dead weight oldies and look for a proper hitter and spinner ( shadab has done fine- he didn't bowl in 2 of the 3 losses and took the big wickets of root, Williamson, de cock in the other games)

 

[HappyWarsFan]

What's the hype about Saif badar? this hack averages 27!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Makes sense but the issue is Pakistan play on slow wickets in the UAE. Not easy to hit the ball out of the park against spinners on such pitches but the overall thinking is correct. Pakistan batsmen by nature are mostly attackers so wont be an issue to find the talent but we need a modern minded selector to think this way.

 

[Mamoon]

The bit I don't get is that we have lost the same number of games in this world cup as this great England team?!?!!!
And the same number of games as NZ.
We don't need a revolution
Just get rid of the few dead weight oldies and look for a proper hitter and spinner ( shadab has done fine- he didn't bowl in 2 of the 3 losses and took the big wickets of root, Williamson, de cock in the other games)

It is not about this World Cup only. The fact that we are ranked 6th, entered the World Cup with a 13 match losing streak and have performed like an associate team in the last two years shows that we need a revolution.

Pakistan and England won the same number of games not because Pakistan raised their game, but because England performed way below their capacity before the last two games. This team is 3-4 world class players short of becoming an elite team.

 

[szundercover]

England had the players to play the modern way. Whilst I don't think Pakistan cricket doesn't have talented players. I seriously doubt we have the strength that England had after the 2015 WC to choose from.

Investing in batters like Zeeshan Malik, Saud Shakeel, and Saif Badar would be sensible decisions which improve Pakistan a lot.

Thats a good pointpoint made, we also need proper spinners most perferably leg spinners which I feel are not so much abundant in Pakistan,I can not think of any international quality leg spinner we have at the moment but we have a vast pool of very good fast bowlers and left arm orthodox spinners.

 

[szundercover]

It is not about this World Cup only. The fact that we are ranked 6th, entered the World Cup with a 13 match losing streak and have performed like an associate team in the last two years shows that we need a revolution.

Pakistan and England won the same number of games not because Pakistan raised their game, but because England performed way below their capacity before the last two games. This team is 3-4 world class players short of becoming an elite team.

Very good point made.

 

[Hawkeye]

We need to produce FTBs, play on flat roads where you can be confident of your shots, and learn to score against pace.

That's the way to succeed in ODIs in this era.

 

[szundercover]

Makes sense but the issue is Pakistan play on slow wickets in the UAE. Not easy to hit the ball out of the park against spinners on such pitches but the overall thinking is correct. Pakistan batsmen by nature are mostly attackers so wont be an issue to find the talent but we need a modern minded selector to think this way.

Who do you have in mind as a cheif selector for me rashid latif fits in to this category.

 

[Hasan123]

Thats a good pointpoint made, we also need proper spinners most perferably leg spinners which I feel are not so much abundant in Pakistan,I can not think of any international quality leg spinner we have at the moment but we have a vast pool of very good fast bowlers and left arm orthodox spinners.

Yes we need to go with specialist spinner. We can do banghra over beating NZ and Afghanistan but if we had proper spinners we would have restricted them to less and that's what would have improved our NRR.

2 decent leg spinners in Pakistan are Muhammad Irfan and Usama Mir. We should have given them some game time in bilaterals to see if they are good enough.

 

[AdamM97]

Yes we need to go with specialist spinner. We can do banghra over beating NZ and Afghanistan but if we had proper spinners we would have restricted them to less and that's what would have improved our NRR.

2 decent leg spinners in Pakistan are Muhammad Irfan and Usama Mir. We should have given them some game time in bilaterals to see if they are good enough.

Give Zafar Gohar and Umer Khan a chance, they look like good prospects.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Who do you have in mind as a cheif selector for me rashid latif fits in to this category.

Id bring in an outsider. Sure it will take him a while to get to know the system, the players in domestic cricket and the youth players but he could get some help. I am sick of Pakistani selectors selecting players because they are seniors or because of who they are. If you want to play the modern way bring in younger people not those who played in matches where 250 was a winning total.

Idealy I would get rid of selectors and allow the captain and coaches to select the squad with help if needed. We have had selectors in Pakistan who call the captain and coach to tell them who to pick in the final XI, this is a joke imo.

 

[Hasan123]

Give Zafar Gohar and Umer Khan a chance, they look like good prospects.

For the next WC we will need 2 specialist spinners and at least 1 spinner who can bowl some overs. Ideally the 3 spinners will be , a left arm spinner , a right arm offie, and a leg break bowler so we have all basis covered.

Umer Khan and Gohar are good options and should be given chances.

Don't want to be carrying any passed it players in 2023.

 

[szundercover]

Give Zafar Gohar and Umer Khan a chance, they look like good prospects.

I think we might see umer khan make his debut for Pakistan against sri lanka.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Just for fun, a gung-ho style team could be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Sharjeel Khan
3) Babar Azam(C)
4) Haris Sohail
5) Umar Akmal(Wk)
6) Imad Wasim
7) Asif Ali
8) Bilal Asif
9) Aamer Yamin
10) Faheem Ashraf
11) Hasan Ali

Yes let’s concede 400+ every game

 

[Abdullah]

It is not about this World Cup only. The fact that we are ranked 6th, entered the World Cup with a 13 match losing streak and have performed like an associate team in the last two years shows that we need a revolution.

Pakistan and England won the same number of games not because Pakistan raised their game, but because England performed way below their capacity before the last two games. This team is 3-4 world class players short of becoming an elite team.

I think our first eleven is as good as everybody other than India and England (on English wickets)
Over the course of 9 games that has pretty much been proven.
I don't think that amir Babar haris fakhar shadab Imad Shaheen and even the let down Hasan ali have played a lot of games together in the last 2 years. For various reasons
These are the core of our team

 

[Abdullah]

It is not about this World Cup only. The fact that we are ranked 6th, entered the World Cup with a 13 match losing streak and have performed like an associate team in the last two years shows that we need a revolution.

Pakistan and England won the same number of games not because Pakistan raised their game, but because England performed way below their capacity before the last two games. This team is 3-4 world class players short of becoming an elite team.

And we know why englands performance dipped. Beherndorf n starc got the ball to move off the straight , and the game in Leeds was a slightly difficult wicket. ( That says a lot and I am worried about what may happen at edgbaston if India bat first)

 

[Hasan123]

I think our first eleven is as good as everybody other than India and England (on English wickets)
Over the course of 9 games that has pretty much been proven.
I don't think that amir Babar haris fakhar shadab Imad Shaheen and even the let down Hasan ali have played a lot of games together in the last 2 years. For various reasons
These are the core of our team

Australia are a better side than Pakistan. It's been proven when the sides have met and in the points table.

 

[moghul]

Just for fun, a gung-ho style team could be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Sharjeel Khan
3) Babar Azam(C)
4) Haris Sohail
5) Umar Akmal(Wk)
6) Imad Wasim
7) Asif Ali
8) Bilal Asif
9) Aamer Yamin
10) Faheem Ashraf
11) Hasan Ali

Three bits and pieces players in this line : Faheem, Yameen and Bilal, Needs better players to groom .

 

[Markhor]

Thats a good pointpoint made, we also need proper spinners most perferably leg spinners which I feel are not so much abundant in Pakistan,I can not think of any international quality leg spinner we have at the moment but we have a vast pool of very good fast bowlers and left arm orthodox spinners.

There are leg spinners in Pakistan but the problem is domestic pitches don't encourage legspin. On those damp, green wickets even a potbellied 125kph seamer can run through sides just hitting a length, leaving few overs for spin !

And even if the match gets to the 4th day, Pakistani wickets like those in UAE don't crack like Indian wickets do. The pitch just gets slower and deader. This also hurts our young batsmen so no wonder we struggle on dry, deteriorating wickets against spin.

Why are the pitches like this ? You can thank the Voice of Pakistani cricket :

 

[Karachi]

Can we pick A team and B team based on talent to see which one would make it to the national team?

 

[topspin]

Unfortunately we’re lagging behind and playing catch-up after Misbah took over from Afridi to captain the ODI side.

While other teams in the 2010s were becoming more dynamic and pushing for 350+ scores, we decided to adopt a traditional technique, but it serves us right for appointing a defensive oldie with out-dated methods.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Unfortunately we’re lagging behind and playing catch-up after Misbah took over from Afridi to captain the ODI side.

While other teams in the 2010s were becoming more dynamic and pushing for 350+ scores, we decided to adopt a traditional technique, but it serves us right for appointing a defensive oldie with out-dated methods.

Yep but we had a good bowling attack with the likes of Ajmal, Hafeez and Afridi really tying up the batsmen. Pakistan scoring 280 was enough to defend and 150 for T20's. Things have changed so should our approach.

 

[topspin]

Yep but we had a good bowling attack with the likes of Ajmal, Hafeez and Afridi really tying up the batsmen. Pakistan scoring 280 was enough to defend and 150 for T20's. Things have changed so should our approach.

Yes many a time, they did save face, however Pakistan shouldn’t look back proudly on Hafeez and especially Ajmal, as they were blatant chuckers.

Ever since finger spin actions came under scrutiny and rules were tightened by the ICC in 2014, our lack of spin options have been throughly exposed. We can’t cheat away and chuck like we used too.

 

[Abdullah]

Australia are a better side than Pakistan. It's been proven when the sides have met and in the points table.

I'm fairly comfortable that if haris Imad shadab play, as part of our first eleven, that we give them a full on proper game.
That was a proper gamble to go with Malik and another quick in that game

 

[Abdullah719]

England had the personnel to do so.

 

[Madplayer]

England had the personnel to do so.

Anything that Pakistan does to the team after the world cup will just be a quick fix. Structural changes would take a lot of time to provide long term benefits.

 

[Mehndi155]

Dont need wholesale changes all we need is a no 5 and no 6 and a smart captain

 

[Adijazz1706]

Don't think the WC performance has been that bad, lost the same amount of games as England and beat them to boot

 

[aukhan]

A capable player as Captain should be the first step.

Rellu kattas should not lead Pakistan again, this also include flavor of the month and slayer of Afgans Imad Wasim.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Don't buy into the doom and gloom prophecies for Pak cricket and don't think this England team is exceptional.

Heck they bent over backwards to get Archer playing in the team, such is their toothlessness with the ball. Their spinners are average at best, and their bowling only marginally better than South Africa at full strength which is a teir below India, Australia, and New Zealand. Every time there's a hint of movement or spin their batters fall like nine pins even evident in this world cup.

They do however have a gun fielding side and bat deep. Credit where it's due.

All we need to do is to play on better wickets, maybe get in a keeper batsman or relieve Sarfaraz of the captaincy so he can focus more on his core competencies.

We really need to move away from UAE as it's really keeping our cricket stuck in a hole. Every time we play on better wickets, we produce some semblance of quality.

 

[Barragan]

1. Zaman/Sharjeel
2. Babar
3. Haris
4. Akmal
5. Maqsood
6. Sarfraz (WK & C)
7. Imad

Babar will need to open, if Pak are to emulate such a style because he can score quickly in the powerplay like he does in T20's and everyone bats around him.

 

[Hasan123]

I'm fairly comfortable that if haris Imad shadab play, as part of our first eleven, that we give them a full on proper game.
That was a proper gamble to go with Malik and another quick in that game

They would beat us regardless of having that 11. They are a better team overall and it's been proven.

 

[Abdullah]

They would beat us regardless of having that 11. They are a better team overall and it's been proven.

I'm not sure how you can say that, from what we have seen.
Imad shadab and Harris effectively didn't play in 2 out of 3 losses.
We won all the other games

 

[Hasan123]

I'm not sure how you can say that, from what we have seen.
Imad shadab and Harris effectively didn't play in 2 out of 3 losses.
We won all the other games

Because Australia 1st team is better than our 1st team. My conclusion is more realistic than your biased one.

 

[saeedhk]

Do not see that happening. Simply by saying we will play attacking cricket does not mean anything. You have to have competency and skills to play attacking cricket.

Pakistan cricket is still stuck in the early 1990s.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Don't buy into the doom and gloom prophecies for Pak cricket and don't think this England team is exceptional.

Heck they bent over backwards to get Archer playing in the team, such is their toothlessness with the ball. Their spinners are average at best, and their bowling only marginally better than South Africa at full strength which is a teir below India, Australia, and New Zealand. Every time there's a hint of movement or spin their batters fall like nine pins even evident in this world cup.

They do however have a gun fielding side and bat deep. Credit where it's due.

All we need to do is to play on better wickets, maybe get in a keeper batsman or relieve Sarfaraz of the captaincy so he can focus more on his core competencies.

We really need to move away from UAE as it's really keeping our cricket stuck in a hole. Every time we play on better wickets, we produce some semblance of quality.

Our think tank, however, must go. Absolutely garbage thinking.

 

[Mamoon]

I think our first eleven is as good as everybody other than India and England (on English wickets)
Over the course of 9 games that has pretty much been proven.
I don't think that amir Babar haris fakhar shadab Imad Shaheen and even the let down Hasan ali have played a lot of games together in the last 2 years. For various reasons
These are the core of our team

England’s XI is better than ours in every condition. I guarantee that England will beat Pakistan to a pulp over a series in every country.

The core of our team, especially players like Fakhar, Amir, Hasan, Shadab etc. are responsible for our minnow level performance in the last two years. They played together in the Asia Cup where India practically demolished us with two players, and Bangladesh gave us a hiding as well. Even Afghanistan were on course before Malik bailed us out.

 

[Mamoon]

And we know why englands performance dipped. Beherndorf n starc got the ball to move off the straight , and the game in Leeds was a slightly difficult wicket. ( That says a lot and I am worried about what may happen at edgbaston if India bat first)

England do have some weaknesses, but they are #1 and in spite of having a stutter, they qualified for the semis on their might with two massive performances. Surely they are doing something right.

 

[Technics 1210]

The first step is to change leadership in Pakistan team. England went from zeros in the 2015 WC to potentially Heroes in 2019 mainly due to Morgan's leadership - who led by example.

 

[shah_1]

Top teams have proper batsmen including England. There is a huge misconception that you need big hitters otherwise WI would have topped the group.


1)Good defensive technique
2)Rotate the strike
3)Play good ground strokeplays
4)Mentally strong


Hitting sixes is the last thing you need