Pakistan name squad for New Zealand Tests (Mir Hamza, Shahnawaz Dahani & Sajid Khan added)

Can't believe some want Rizwan to be dropped just for failing in a few matches. He still averages 39 which is better than FC average of the youngsters.

It's a slightly better Test avg than Boucher, Dhoni, McCullum, Haddin etc etc managed to maintain. And some of those also got to play as just a pure batsmen from time to time.

Yet some Pakistan fans think to just lightly throw a talent like that on the scrapheap! Like wicket keeping isn't a job in itself also.
 
Yes, lets do it 1 day before the 1st Test.

Christmas gift, obviously!
It's a slightly better Test avg than Boucher, Dhoni, McCullum, Haddin etc etc managed to maintain. And some of those also got to play as just a pure batsmen from time to time.

Yet some Pakistan fans think to just lightly throw a talent like that on the scrapheap! Like wicket keeping isn't a job in itself also.


Averages of that era to now are +10
 
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It's a slightly better Test avg than Boucher, Dhoni, McCullum, Haddin etc etc managed to maintain. And some of those also got to play as just a pure batsmen from time to time.

Yet some Pakistan fans think to just lightly throw a talent like that on the scrapheap! Like wicket keeping isn't a job in itself also.

To be fair to Rizwan critics, he has had six consecutive disappointing Tests with the bat where he hasn’t made a fifty.

Even looking past the numbers he has seemed quite clueless against the spinners, this too when wicketkeepers in the subcontinent are purported to be good readers of spin given that they spend most of their game time watching it close up.

Rizwan was on the wrong end of one very good spinning ball from Leach, but aside from this he has been getting out to the likes of R Mendis, Jayasuriya and Rehan Ahmed who are basically debutants.
 
To be fair to Rizwan critics, he has had six consecutive disappointing Tests with the bat where he hasn’t made a fifty.

Even looking past the numbers he has seemed quite clueless against the spinners, this too when wicketkeepers in the subcontinent are purported to be good readers of spin given that they spend most of their game time watching it close up.

Rizwan was on the wrong end of one very good spinning ball from Leach, but aside from this he has been getting out to the likes of R Mendis, Jayasuriya and Rehan Ahmed who are basically debutants.

Given his promising record in Tests and previous good form I'm still inclined to see it as a poor patch, by a player worth persisting with. He's better than the last bloke and probably better than the next bloke too, with gloves and bat.

It may be he has been found out and fades away. But I'm not there yet. I think he deserves some more chances- his previous 2 years were good. He's struggling a bit this year- seems to be lunging at the ball vs spinners for mine.

Sarfraz went the last 5 years without a Test ton, at a worse averagebefore he was dropped- let's not get rose coloured glasses about the talent out there aside from Rizwan either.
 
Pace is very overrated in test cricket.

What are you talking about.
Even in this England series- when it has come to the crunch pace has turned the game
Ollie Robinson game one when Pak needed 80 odd with 5 wickets left and little time and game two where we needed 65 runs with 5 wickets left - it was wood in that occasion.
If england pace attack was equivalent to ours we would have won the series
 
Given his promising record in Tests and previous good form I'm still inclined to see it as a poor patch, by a player worth persisting with. He's better than the last bloke and probably better than the next bloke too, with gloves and bat.

It may be he has been found out and fades away. But I'm not there yet. I think he deserves some more chances- his previous 2 years were good. He's struggling a bit this year- seems to be lunging at the ball vs spinners for mine.

Sarfraz went the last 5 years without a Test ton, at a worse averagebefore he was dropped- let's not get rose coloured glasses about the talent out there aside from Rizwan either.

This post needs to be highlighted .
It's funny how guys who previously didn't do anything like Rizwan has become saviours purely by not playing.
If you are a batsman and have 5-6 bad games- you can start talking about the axe coming up and needing a score next game, but not for a WK.
He will have more ups and downs
 
Rizwan should be dropped because Pakistan have an abundance of elite wicketkeepers in the system that are being blocked I guess? Or are we pining for an over the hill Sarfraz to play now?

Or are we pining for Haseebullah & Rohail 34 FC average now?

No Sarfaraz shouldn't be brought back, at same time RIzwan has batted like a tail ender in tests this year, every player who is out of form over a sustained period deserves to be dropped. I'd rather a new keeper be looked at for these 2 tests at least. No harm in doing so.
 
No Sarfaraz shouldn't be brought back, at same time RIzwan has batted like a tail ender in tests this year, every player who is out of form over a sustained period deserves to be dropped. I'd rather a new keeper be looked at for these 2 tests at least. No harm in doing so.

Dropping players willy nilly absolutely causes harm. It ruins confidence, creates fear throughout the team, leads to playing for self instead of the situation etc. Look at England in the 90s. Oz in the mid 80s.

You need to identify talent, stick with it, keep the parts that are working and only change when needed. In my opinion, Rizwan is not a huge issue. I think [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] is right that maybe he should bat at #7 instead of #6. But then again I;d have a proper allrounder in Mubasir at #6.

Are you blaming the keeper for the specialist batsmen not doing the job and the selectors picking 3x mjckey mouse allrounders instead? Drop some of those jokers first, not the bloke averaging near40 in tests who is among the better gloveman in the world.

Last year he had a literal matchwinner ton knock v SA , as well as some handy runs away vs NZ. This year he's still made a ton v Oz before some poor matches and you just don't have many batsmen making tons at all right now, just middling 50s.

Which keeper is better with gloves and bat? I'd back the guy who makes runs v good attacks previously myself.
 
Dropping players willy nilly absolutely causes harm. It ruins confidence, creates fear throughout the team, leads to playing for self instead of the situation etc. Look at England in the 90s. Oz in the mid 80s.

You need to identify talent, stick with it, keep the parts that are working and only change when needed. In my opinion, Rizwan is not a huge issue. I think [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] is right that maybe he should bat at #7 instead of #6. But then again I;d have a proper allrounder in Mubasir at #6.

Are you blaming the keeper for the specialist batsmen not doing the job and the selectors picking 3x mjckey mouse allrounders instead? Drop some of those jokers first, not the bloke averaging near40 in tests who is among the better gloveman in the world.

Last year he had a literal matchwinner ton knock v SA , as well as some handy runs away vs NZ. This year he's still made a ton v Oz before some poor matches and you just don't have many batsmen making tons at all right now, just middling 50s.

Which keeper is better with gloves and bat? I'd back the guy who makes runs v good attacks previously myself.

Yes pakistan has plenty of issues with the batting, A top Seven where you have 2 walking wickets in Azhar/Fawad and Agha this year. Which has put pressure on the rest. Add to that Rizwan who has been used regularly in the top 6 and is Averaging 30 with the bat this is pathetic to say the least, In his last 6 tests hes average around 23. Yet you and [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] dont see it as a problem.

Yeah he was good the year before but players need to keep performing and not become complacent like he has, dropping him would give him the kick up the backside he deserves, Nice 20s and 30s whilst batting 4,5,6 aint providing the team with any substance.

So like i said no harm in trying someone else out for the NZ series, while rizwan goes away and works on his batting and keeping.
 
Yes pakistan has plenty of issues with the batting, A top Seven where you have 2 walking wickets in Azhar/Fawad and Agha this year. Which has put pressure on the rest. Add to that Rizwan who has been used regularly in the top 6 and is Averaging 30 with the bat this is pathetic to say the least, In his last 6 tests hes average around 23. Yet you and [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] dont see it as a problem.

Yeah he was good the year before but players need to keep performing and not become complacent like he has, dropping him would give him the kick up the backside he deserves, Nice 20s and 30s whilst batting 4,5,6 aint providing the team with any substance.

So like i said no harm in trying someone else out for the NZ series, while rizwan goes away and works on his batting and keeping.

I think [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] is positive about our cricket like Nasser Hussain is.
 
I think [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] is positive about our cricket like Nasser Hussain is.

Yeah he is positive in the case of pakistani cricket, but not seeing rizwans "Poor form all year" as not a problem is not right on this occasion.
 
No Sarfaraz shouldn't be brought back, at same time RIzwan has batted like a tail ender in tests this year, every player who is out of form over a sustained period deserves to be dropped. I'd rather a new keeper be looked at for these 2 tests at least. No harm in doing so.

lol that is absurd. Teams around the world have players struggle in Tests for even extended periods but they are given a proper run & chance to prove themselves because Test cricket is not easy, especially for a country like Pakistan where it is sporadically played throughout the year.

He has a near 40 average in Tests which is more than sufficient enough. In fact, it may be the best ever for a Pakistan's wicketkeeper in its history.
 
lol that is absurd. Teams around the world have players struggle in Tests for even extended periods but they are given a proper run & chance to prove themselves because Test cricket is not easy, especially for a country like Pakistan where it is sporadically played throughout the year.

He has a near 40 average in Tests which is more than sufficient enough. In fact, it may be the best ever for a Pakistan's wicketkeeper in its history.

Doesn't matter he is a nothing player. Also ruins the team atmosphere and is silent when the team is under pressure.
 
Shaheen Shah Afridi:

“There's a Test match 2 days later. If they call me for that, I'll be available!”

“You guys cried here (after Pakistan's loss in T20 World Cup final). You don't know what we went through there. All three of us (Shaheen, Haris Rauf, and Fakhar Zaman) are sitting here, and you will see us back on the field very soon,”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...uestion-draws-huge-cheer-101671850996762.html
 
Pakistan are practicing at the National Bank Cricket Arena. The players are having fielding drills and nets.

Pakistan captain Babar Azam will join the side today

Off-spinner Sajid Khan is part of pre-series training

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Given his promising record in Tests and previous good form I'm still inclined to see it as a poor patch, by a player worth persisting with. He's better than the last bloke and probably better than the next bloke too, with gloves and bat.

It may be he has been found out and fades away. But I'm not there yet. I think he deserves some more chances- his previous 2 years were good. He's struggling a bit this year- seems to be lunging at the ball vs spinners for mine.

Sarfraz went the last 5 years without a Test ton, at a worse averagebefore he was dropped- let's not get rose coloured glasses about the talent out there aside from Rizwan either.

Yep He’s far better than Sarfraz. Pak fans are very short sighted and have incredibly short memory spans.

Sarfraz is a walking wicket as soon as the pacers come on. His fabled aggression has only kicked in Vs spin when and if it did.
 
Pakistan are practicing at the National Bank Cricket Arena. The players are having fielding drills and nets.

Pakistan captain Babar Azam will join the side today

Off-spinner Sajid Khan is part of pre-series training

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Incredibly cringe name. Thought Ramiz was all about style, how did he sign off on such an awful name.

It’s always going to be National Stadium, Karachi.
 
Seems funny to me people think Rizwan is an issue without even look at what other wicketkeepers do around the world. Outside of Pant & NZ keeper, its all a bunch of dudes averaging 35 or less. Rizwan is one the higher end compared to his position.

It's not the wicketkeeper's job to carry the batting either and Pakistan's issue in 2022 hasn't been batting either. It's the garbage bowling and I don't think there has a single Test match this year where you can say bowling did a really solid job.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PCB Management Committee has appointed Shahid Afridi as the interim Chair of the Men’s National Selection Committee for the home series against New Zealand. Other members of the panel are Abdul Razzaq, Rao Iftikhar Anjum, while Haroon Rashid will be the Convener <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1606577942628249600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2022</a></blockquote>
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So will the squad be selected again?
 
The Men’s Interim Selection Committee has added Mir Hamza, Sajid Khan and Shahnawaz Dahani to the Pakistan Test squad for the two-match series against New Zealand, which commences here on Monday.

The decision was made following the Committee’s meeting, which was chaired by Shahid Afridi, who, along with Pakistan captain Babar Azam, joined the session through video link.

Shahid Afridi: “We had a good discussion on the squad and agreed we needed to strengthen our bowling department to give ourselves the best chance of taking 20 wickets in a match. As such, and taking into consideration recent form and performances, we have added fast bowlers Mir Hamza and Shahnawaz Dahani, and off-spinner Sajid Khan.

“I am confident the inclusion of three additional bowling resources will give Babar Azam more options to field the best available squad for the first Test.”

In the four Quaid-e-Azam Trophy matches, Mir Hamza took 16 wickets in four matches, while Sajid Khan scooped 21 wickets in seven matches. Shahnawaz Dahani appeared in only two four-day matches as he was on national duty.

Mir Hamza’s only Test was against Australia in Abu Dhabi in October 2018, while Sajid’s seventh and last Test was against Australia earlier this year in Lahore. He has to date taken 22 wickets, including eight for 42 against Bangladesh in Dhaka last year. Shahnawaz Dhani is yet to make an appearance in Test, though he has featured in two ODIs and 11 T20Is for Pakistan.
 
Possible 11 for the fist test:

1. Abdullah
2. Imam
3. Shaan
4. Babar
5. Shakeel
6. Salmaan
7. Sarfraz
8. Noman
9. Hassan Ali
10. Dahani
11. Abrar

I would like Mir Hamza or Naseem in that 11 but with that would mean the tail will start from number 7 as we don't have a decent all rounder in the squad.
 
A gentle and timely reminder from the interim selection committee that they will add and remove players to the squad as they see fit.
 
I can understand Hamza’s inclusion and kind of get Sajid’s but Dahani?

FC bowling average of around 40 and figures of 0 for 222 in the 2 games he’s played recently. It’s not even like he’s been doing well in T20I’s though that’s not really relevant here.
 
I can understand Hamza’s inclusion and kind of get Sajid’s but Dahani?

FC bowling average of around 40 and figures of 0 for 222 in the 2 games he’s played recently. It’s not even like he’s been doing well in T20I’s though that’s not really relevant here.

Gut feeling he will do better than Rauf, Ali and Naseem. Can't do worse anyway.
 
I will go with
Imam
Abdullah
Saud shakeel
Babar
Kamran
Agha salman
Sarfraz
Sajid khan
Abrar
Hassan ali
Mir Hamza
 
Off spinner and leg spinner are must against SENA. Lhf and rhf to utilize both reverse and new ball bowling. Imam failure in the series will call huraira or if agha fails call mubashir
 
Mir Hamza and Dhani good choice, I think Dhani definatley needs more exposure in 4 day cricket.

Sajid khan is just a pie thrower like Zahid Mahmood, very poor selection indeed.

Usman Salluddin should have been picked and Shan or Agha should have been dropped.
 
Mir Hamza and Sajid Khan make sense according to form but Dhani picked, makes no sense as he needed more first class games.
 
I’ve tried to understand the curious case of Dahani. I’ve always maintained that this guy is the ‘Forrest Gump’ of Pakistan

Dahani is a weird, weird bowler. If he isn’t switched on, he will be carted around like no tomorrow. However, this guy does have a weird ‘demon mode’ about him too.

I’ve noticed this a few times. When he is in that demon mode, the guy is brilliant! This is why Test cricket isn’t the worst format for him because Test cricket is a marathon, and lots of spells need to be bowled, lots of battles need to be fought at different times
 
I’ve tried to understand the curious case of Dahani. I’ve always maintained that this guy is the ‘Forrest Gump’ of Pakistan

Dahani is a weird, weird bowler. If he isn’t switched on, he will be carted around like no tomorrow. However, this guy does have a weird ‘demon mode’ about him too.

I’ve noticed this a few times. When he is in that demon mode, the guy is brilliant! This is why Test cricket isn’t the worst format for him because Test cricket is a marathon, and lots of spells need to be bowled, lots of battles need to be fought at different times

Oh dear Lord we are now judging cricketers as if this were an online fighting game like dragonball fighters tekken or street fighter..

I guess dahani will soon be firing hadokens at the batsman next..
 
Oh dear Lord we are now judging cricketers as if this were an online fighting game like dragonball fighters tekken or street fighter..

I guess dahani will soon be firing hadokens at the batsman next..

Hass lo

Mock me

Your choice. Time will tell
 
Muhammad Waseem’s laptop didn’t quite pick this up,

So Mir Hamza took 16 wickets @24.00 throughout the season (bowled over 150 overs) and was overlooked for 2 series (England and NZ)

Whereas Hassan Ali was recalled for doing Jack all and taking his wickets at an average of @40 in the season

Bizarre
 
Muhammad Waseem’s laptop didn’t quite pick this up,

So Mir Hamza took 16 wickets @24.00 throughout the season (bowled over 150 overs) and was overlooked for 2 series (England and NZ)

Whereas Hassan Ali was recalled for doing Jack all and taking his wickets at an average of @40 in the season

Bizarre

He bowled mostly on Pindi grassy pitches favourable to seamers. Hamza certainly won't get that on Karachi pitches but considering his FC track record, he should have received more of a chance than he has so far.
 
Not sure how it is good for Dahani development to be selected so he can ride the bench for this Test series when he would have been better off continuing to bowl in the List A matches and work on his line/length.
 
So what if Saqi plays all 3 newly added players and they end up still losing? I guess then there be some interesting statements from all parties lol
 
They’ve given Babar and co some options. Let’s see if he decides to use any. Irrespective of whether they win or not I don’t see this coming back on the interim selection committee. The team is largely from the previous selection committee, and there was no time to make wholesale changes. In fact, the idea of an interim selection committee 3 days before the first test was idiotic to begin with and forced Afridi and co to provide some token names otherwise people would be wondering what they were doing.
 
Afridi power in action

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Nawaz, Shahnawaz and Sajid available for tomorrow’s Pakistan Cup matches

Karachi, 26 December 2022:

Following discussions between Pakistan head coach and selection committee, three players - Mohammad Nawaz, Shahnawaz Dahani and Sajid Khan - have been made available to their domestic sides for the 27 December fixtures of Pakistan Cup.

The move will allow players to continue to get match time under their belts and make a case for their selection for the three ICC Men’s Super League One-Day Internationals against New Zealand in January.

These players remain part of the Pakistan Test squad for the New Zealand series.
 
I would had preferred yasir shah in place of sajid and than play him in place of nauman.

Anyways, good addition by afridi
 
Nawaz, Shahnawaz and Sajid available for tomorrow’s Pakistan Cup matches

Karachi, 26 December 2022:

Following discussions between Pakistan head coach and selection committee, three players - Mohammad Nawaz, Shahnawaz Dahani and Sajid Khan - have been made available to their domestic sides for the 27 December fixtures of Pakistan Cup.

The move will allow players to continue to get match time under their belts and make a case for their selection for the three ICC Men’s Super League One-Day Internationals against New Zealand in January.

These players remain part of the Pakistan Test squad for the New Zealand series.

A very sane decision. Ok afridi liking this for now
 
Three high-performing teenagers added to Test squad

Karachi, 27 December 2022:

As part of its strategy and vision to develop, grow and incentivise high-performing talented youngsters, the Men’s Interim Selection Committee have added three top-performers from age-group cricket to the Pakistan Test squad with the objective of providing them international exposure and experience.

The three players are: all-rounder Arafat Minhas (Multan), top-order batter Basit Ali (Dera Murad Jamali) and right-arm fast bowler Mohammad Zeeshan (Faisalabad).

Shahid Afridi, Chair of Men’s Interim Selection Committee: “We are not only looking at present but also have an eye on the future. In this relation, we have added three top-performers from our age-group cricket so that they can spend time with their stars in the national side and learn how to plan and prepare for high pressure matches.

“Although the three players will not be available for selection, this initiative will fast track their progress and provide them better awareness, understanding and knowledge about the rigours and demands of top-grade cricket.”

Arafat Minhas was adjudged best all-rounder of the Pakistan Junior League when he scored 178 runs and took nine wickets for Gwadar Sharks, while Bahawalpur Royals’ Basit Ali was named player and best batter of the PJL with after finishing as the top-scorer with 379 runs. He also featured in the U19 series against Bangladesh in Multan in November.

Zeeshan, Basit’s team-mate at PJL, was declared the best bowler of the tournament with 14 wickets.
 
Three high-performing teenagers added to Test squad

Karachi, 27 December 2022:

As part of its strategy and vision to develop, grow and incentivise high-performing talented youngsters, the Men’s Interim Selection Committee have added three top-performers from age-group cricket to the Pakistan Test squad with the objective of providing them international exposure and experience.

The three players are: all-rounder Arafat Minhas (Multan), top-order batter Basit Ali (Dera Murad Jamali) and right-arm fast bowler Mohammad Zeeshan (Faisalabad).

Shahid Afridi, Chair of Men’s Interim Selection Committee: “We are not only looking at present but also have an eye on the future. In this relation, we have added three top-performers from our age-group cricket so that they can spend time with their stars in the national side and learn how to plan and prepare for high pressure matches.

“Although the three players will not be available for selection, this initiative will fast track their progress and provide them better awareness, understanding and knowledge about the rigours and demands of top-grade cricket.”

Arafat Minhas was adjudged best all-rounder of the Pakistan Junior League when he scored 178 runs and took nine wickets for Gwadar Sharks, while Bahawalpur Royals’ Basit Ali was named player and best batter of the PJL with after finishing as the top-scorer with 379 runs. He also featured in the U19 series against Bangladesh in Multan in November.

Zeeshan, Basit’s team-mate at PJL, was declared the best bowler of the tournament with 14 wickets.

Really good initiative. I hope they just keep this for the home tours so youngsters' time is not wasted by warming the benches just for the exposure. The time which should mostly be spent in playing FC cricket to up their skills.
 
If selectors are picking names out a hat, why hasn't Dahani with a relatively heavy bowl compared to the rest not been picked?.

Mir Hamza is a poor man's Woakes. I think. I'm not quite sure what he brings and he's no spring chicken.

KFC Bucket: PCB selection roulette. Cricket kurendazi
 
Three high-performing teenagers added to Test squad

Karachi, 27 December 2022:

As part of its strategy and vision to develop, grow and incentivise high-performing talented youngsters, the Men’s Interim Selection Committee have added three top-performers from age-group cricket to the Pakistan Test squad with the objective of providing them international exposure and experience.

The three players are: all-rounder Arafat Minhas (Multan), top-order batter Basit Ali (Dera Murad Jamali) and right-arm fast bowler Mohammad Zeeshan (Faisalabad).

Shahid Afridi, Chair of Men’s Interim Selection Committee: “We are not only looking at present but also have an eye on the future. In this relation, we have added three top-performers from our age-group cricket so that they can spend time with their stars in the national side and learn how to plan and prepare for high pressure matches.

“Although the three players will not be available for selection, this initiative will fast track their progress and provide them better awareness, understanding and knowledge about the rigours and demands of top-grade cricket.”

Arafat Minhas was adjudged best all-rounder of the Pakistan Junior League when he scored 178 runs and took nine wickets for Gwadar Sharks, while Bahawalpur Royals’ Basit Ali was named player and best batter of the PJL with after finishing as the top-scorer with 379 runs. He also featured in the U19 series against Bangladesh in Multan in November.

Zeeshan, Basit’s team-mate at PJL, was declared the best bowler of the tournament with 14 wickets.


Shahid Afridi explaining the decision

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I guess Huraira and Saim Ayub are too old to have any future for Pakistan team now, they should just retire now.
 
They are just coming for fielding and drinks carrying

Nothing wrong with that tbh
 
Just to keep them away from school, not to pick some bad habits . We produce the most uneducated cricketers in the world.

In all other countries, without any exception , 17-18 year old cricketers continue their schooling along with cricket, not a priority in Pakistan.
 
Don't these guys in-game reps they are currently getting in List A cricket? It makes sense to do that if there's no domestic cricket going on.

Also, why not do this with more ready players like Huraira & Mubasir?
 
Don't these guys in-game reps they are currently getting in List A cricket? It makes sense to do that if there's no domestic cricket going on.

Also, why not do this with more ready players like Huraira & Mubasir?

The "visionary " selector and new PCB boss have their own ideas.
 
Just to keep them away from school, not to pick some bad habits . We produce the most uneducated cricketers in the world.

In all other countries, without any exception , 17-18 year old cricketers continue their schooling along with cricket, not a priority in Pakistan.
Yes let’s send to to school so they can learn about cricket. In case you didn’t know they want to be cricketers. Pakistani and their obsession with education in everything.
 
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