Pakistan ODI team needs a revamp, starting from home series versus New Zealand

[HappyWarsFan]

We need to start winning ODI series, at least at home. Hopefully this poor tour encourages a shuffling in the white-ball setup, but I am going to focus on ODI cricket here.

In my opinion, Rizwan should open in ODI, have Haris and Saud in the middle order, and Hafeez/Imad at 6. We need some proper spinners too, so Usman and Zafar Gohar/Nawaz should play.

Our new look XI should be something like:

1. Rizwan
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Haris
5. Saud
6. Imad Wasim/Hafeez
7. Zafar Gohar/Nawaz
8. Hasan Ali
9. Wahab/Amir/Hasnain (open slot)
10.Shaheen Afridi
11.Usman Qadir

Feel free to discuss any changes you'd like to the ODI team - a post tour discussion.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

This “new 11” looks awfully similar to our usual 11s.

 

[hb787]

I see no changes until WC.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

This “new 11” looks awfully similar to our usual 11s.

Don't have many great options. But I do think at least removing Rauf and Shadab would help the bowling a bit if proper bowlers come in their place. And Imam hasn't been great so he should go.

 

[offstump]

There’s basically nothing different in this new look squad. You’re just shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic.

 

[ritzy_123]

If we're really serious about revamp we really need to start from few of the many things:

1) Sack Misbah and Waqar. Hire a nobody even from English County and give Him the right to select His own team of coaches.

2) Cricket is now a mindset we need to understand this we need qualified analysts who are professionals.

3) IMO We also need a psychological doctor with the team who needs to train them to stay calm and composed in tough situations as well as in situations where a player can't perform to His potential he also needs to consult with psychologist.

4) We also need services of a power hitting coach who can really help our players to clear the boundary.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Fakhar, Imam, Babar, Saud and Rizwan are looked in as the top 5. Hassan Ali, Usman Qadir and Shaheen Shah Afridi are looked in for the bowling picks.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam (C)
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Mohammad Rizwan (WK)
6. Aamir Yamin/Shadab Khan/Mohammad Nawaz /Mohammad Mohsin
7. Amad Butt
8. Hassan Ali
9. Usman Qadir
10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
11. Mohammad Hasnain

Mohammad Nawaz is a decent bowler but his batting is appalling in Intl. level and needs to work on his power hitting as does Shadab Khan. Pakistan need some power hitters in the No.6/7 slot. I would also like to see Mohammad Mohsin develop into a power hitter, could give him a go. Agha Salman isn't a bad option but he's more of a No.4/5 option. But yeah, Pakistan need power hitters.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

We need to start winning ODI series, at least at home. Hopefully this poor tour encourages a shuffling in the white-ball setup, but I am going to focus on ODI cricket here.

In my opinion, Rizwan should open in ODI, have Haris and Saud in the middle order, and Hafeez/Imad at 6. We need some proper spinners too, so Usman and Zafar Gohar/Nawaz should play.

Our new look XI should be something like:

1. Rizwan
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Haris
5. Saud
6. Imad Wasim/Hafeez
7. Zafar Gohar/Nawaz
8. Hasan Ali
9. Wahab/Amir/Hasnain (open slot)
10.Shaheen Afridi
11.Usman Qadir

Feel free to discuss any changes you'd like to the ODI team - a post tour discussion.

Head coach and bowling coach needs revamping by locking them both in prison until they repay all the monetary funds that were used to pay their salaries.

 

[GreenKhan]

Your post reads “revamp” and as soon as I saw Hafeez I stopped reading .

 

[gazza619]

As we are so crap in ODIs (both with and without key players), i would pick a B team going forward. This way we might identify some talent.

 

[CricLegend]

I agree with all your points, i think the sooner we get rid of misbah and waqas the better, and try to replace them with Andy Flower who understands the modern game and has been involved in PSL so has some experience with Pakistani cricketers.

Your point about Power Hitters, after watching pakistan cricket for last 2-3 years, we don't really have any power hitters, the last we had were the inconsistent par of Afridi and Razzaq.

Rather than looking to emulate other teams with regards to power hitters to win matches, Pakistan should look for their oown unique forrmula which gives them the competitive edge. We had that with spin trio of Afridi, Ajmal and Hafeez, followed by reverse swing in Umar Gul, with that Pakistan won the T20 world cup and were competitve in other major tournaments.

Playing half cricketers such as Shadab. Faheem, Imad with the hope that they will become world beaters is just laughable. I dont think in a million years Misbah could ever develop any player or make pakistsn a better team.

So far Wasim Khan has failed for me, i expected major revamp but the headline story is still the same,Pakistan cricket is in decline

 

[Kroll]

We need new management to revitalise the side and bring some energy into it. Recycling players under the current outfit isn't going to work.

Misbah especially won't be satisfied until we go back to ninth like we did under his captaincy. Waqar doesn't care where we are or what we're doing as a team.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

We have been revamping since 2007 and it's only gotten worse.

The truth is that we aren't getting anything better from our current domestic system. In the end The Hafeez's, Malik's and Wahab's are still the better ones.

You could try a more experienced and modern team management, but it will be these same players. These guys just don't have the attitude to fare in pressure situations and dont show any game awareness at all except for maybe Rizwan. It's either slog or tuk tuk. In the bowling department we're just not bowling according to the field or plan. It's a real mess our whole system.

 

[Kroll]

Head coach and bowling coach needs revamping by locking them both in prison until they repay all the monetary funds that were used to pay their salaries.

What a waste of two years under these con-artists.

 

[Mamoon]

We have zero talent. There is no possible combination of 11 players in the country that will Pakistan a formidable winning machine.

You cannot revamp a struggling team when you don’t have world class players and we don’t besides 1-2.

There is literally no one in domestic cricket with elite potential.

Pakistan cricket is in a full-blown talent crisis. A truly bankrupt cricket nation.

 

[gazza619]

We have zero talent. There is no possible combination of 11 players in the country that will Pakistan a formidable winning machine.

You cannot revamp a struggling team when you don’t have world class players and we don’t besides 1-2.

There is literally no one in domestic cricket with elite potential.

Pakistan cricket is in a full-blown talent crisis. A truly bankrupt cricket nation.

It is more of an attitude / patience issue than talent. We dont know how to approach modern 50 overs game.

We have a bigger pool of players than ever before.

 

[Mamoon]

It is more of an attitude / patience issue than talent. We dont know how to approach modern 50 overs game.

We have a bigger pool of players than ever before.

And most of the players in the pool are completely average. They are just names hyped up by desperate fans. The number of world class/elite players are still the same.

Every year, PSL exposes the lack of talent in Pakistan and whoever emerges in the bowling department every now and then fizzles out within months.

Dhani is the new savior in the bowling department these days and let’s see if he has more mileage than Naseem and Rauf.

 

[Itachi]

there's no raw talent in Pakistan at the moment. You can make whatever combination but if you have no talent in the first place, the results will be same.

 

[gazza619]

And most of the players in the pool are completely average. They are just names hyped up by desperate fans. The number of world class/elite players are still the same.

Every year, PSL exposes the lack of talent in Pakistan and whoever emerges in the bowling department every now and then fizzles out within months.

Dhani is the new savior in the bowling department these days and let’s see if he has more mileage than Naseem and Rauf.

The solution in the short run is the top 4 batting positions in ODI need to be occupied by the best batsmen in the country. Rizwan absolutely needs to open in ODIs as well and give up the gloves for Rohail (talented middle order young gun).

The top 4 batsmen for me are:
1. M Rizwan
2. Imam-ul-Haq (needs to be given confidence)
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail

 

[Barragan]

That's the same old, same old rubbish!

A revamped modern day ODI team wouldn't have imam, haris or Saud in it.

It would include dynamic batsmen at no. 4 and onwards.

 

[deep82]

I think the first step is to appoint Rizwan as vice captain for all format till 2023 WC. This will avoid all confusion of pseudo captainship debate in Shadab, Sarfaraz or Imad. Just settle the matter once for all. The entire team need to accept and rally behind the two world class batsman of Pakistan to run the team.

Thereafter, Misbah & co. is big problem. They need to go. Someone line Andy Flower will need to be appointed for long term till WC 2023 and need to work with Babar/Rizwan for the future of Pakistan cricket.

No short term goals like Misbah. Andy Flower and Babar need to sacrifice cheap wins and look for long term stability and team building.

Babar, Rizwan, Hasan, Shahen is a solid core. Build a team around them.

Discard all oldies once for all and close the chapter. This includes Wahab, Amir, Hafeez, Malik, Maqsood, Sarfaraz, Ifi etc.

Do not give importance to pseudo all rounders like Imad, Shadab, Nawaj and Fahim. Use them as per conditions but not as guaranteed starers.

Build a team of specialists first. The results will not come with the revamped approach but there will be slow progress towards building a genuine team which can threaten the big boys in few year time.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Also, inculcate some winning and champion mentality in the players.
Yesterday SKY scored his first international fifty, yet no celebrations, not even lifting of bat from him.
Given the situation of the match, as one of the last recognized batter he was focused to take the team towards winning.
Abid Ali for example lifting his helmet up for every 50 scored. That is just minnow mentality.

 

[Abdurmirr]

Look this same conversation has been happening forever. We have tried and tested a multitude of players most of which have failed miserably and the ones who have performed are continuously being hated on by our "most patriotic" supporters.

In ODI cricket we should look to play to our strengths and not copy the same formula of other top teams as we don't have the talent or reserves to produce the same results as the top 4. It's best that we keep our top 4 the same with Fakhar, Imam, Babar and Saud. Maybe Imam could be replaced by someone more aggressive i.e: move Rizwan up but that just weakens our already pathetic middle order.

Rizwan should bat at 5 and depending on the situation he can come before or after Shakeel. He is easily our best player of spin and can keep the runs ticking in the middle overs. Afterwords it doesn't really matter which nobody we give a chance to because 99% of the time they will fail. I guess Maqsood/Iftikhar is the best bet tho as unlike Asif, Danish or Khushdhil both batsmen have shown an ability to hit sixes in international cricket.

Imad and Nawaz should also be a part of our outfit (disgraceful that they aren't) and bowling line up should compromise of Hasan, Shaheen and Hasnain.

This team won't be great, it won't be winning series against the top 4 but I reckon this combination gives us the best chance of pulling of odd upsets and winning consistently against poorer teams

 

[bones]

That's the same old, same old rubbish!

Sadly there's nothing else of quality waiting in the wings. So it's going to be the proven failures or a gamble with someoe untried.

 

[Abdurmirr]

We have zero talent. There is no possible combination of 11 players in the country that will Pakistan a formidable winning machine.

You cannot revamp a struggling team when you don’t have world class players and we don’t besides 1-2.

There is literally no one in domestic cricket with elite potential.

Pakistan cricket is in a full-blown talent crisis. A truly bankrupt cricket nation.

I agree 100% however do you think it's possible that if we change our mentality and try not to parrot everything teams like India and England do, we could as a team be more successful in terms of not losing one of matches to Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka etc and maybe on the odd occasion pulling of wins against the stronger half of the cricketing world?

 

[hitthestump]

There’s basically nothing different in this new look squad. You’re just shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic.

Agree with this. Ultimately nothing can be done right now about Pakistan being a low ranked ODI team.

 

[Kaddy]

A major revamp is required at U19 an U17 level because I don't see the players in domestic cricket who, if selected, will make our team a world beater.

Even our best products of last U19 like Haider Ali and Rohail Nazir are very ordinary players.

 

[Pakpak]

Your post reads “revamp” and as soon as I saw Hafeez I stopped reading .

Same

I know Hafeez's real age, its a shame he's still in our team. Does nothing with the bat now once his fluke run is over.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

And most of the players in the pool are completely average. They are just names hyped up by desperate fans. The number of world class/elite players are still the same.

Every year, PSL exposes the lack of talent in Pakistan and whoever emerges in the bowling department every now and then fizzles out within months.

Dhani is the new savior in the bowling department these days and let’s see if he has more mileage than Naseem and Rauf.

Even without much talent, there still needs to be a more professional leadership and team dynamic. Pakistan has really dumb coaching and management in Misbah and Waqar, neither of them who can even give an interview where they can explain their direction or game plan.

 

[Ahmed216]

Our players have got no talent or skills. They are clueless when it comes to technical and mental aspects of the game. No amount of changing or chopping or even adopting a completely different approach like England's post 2015 is not going to help. England could do it because their players had their basics right and it was only a matter of adopting a different brand.