Pakistan provides second consular access to Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav [Update Post #284]

[Obaidd]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1492090/icj-to-announce-verdict-in-kulbhushan-jadhav-case-on-july-17

Both sides expect the verdict to go their way. The verdict was reserved few months ago. No matter which way the decision goes, it’s going to be a huge news. My expectation is that Pak’s legal team would not have done its job properly and will lose the case. India will be allowed consular access. However, both sides will claim ‘victory’.

Your thoughts on what the verdict is going to be?

 

[AdamM97]

Likely that India will be allowed consular access. Not sure how that would hurt Pakistan though, he would still be in Pakistan, right?

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Pakistan should hang him, international court has no worth.

 

[Lonewarrior]

as i said many times before, whatever the verdict will be, pakistan is not bound to it.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Likely that India will be allowed consular access. Not sure how that would hurt Pakistan though, he would still be in Pakistan, right?

It gives India a chance at further propaganda. They will then say he doesn't look healthy, he isn't being treated well, he confirms he is innocent and being framed, etc...

 

[AdamM97]

It gives India a chance at further propaganda. They will then say he doesn't look healthy, he isn't being treated well, he confirms he is innocent and being framed, etc...

In that case, Pakistan should give access to a neutral player only.

 

[PakLFC]

Does not matter what the court says coz India is never getting him back. Abhinandan was released as he was a soldier not accused or murdering innocent people. Kulbushan is a terrorist no doubt about it, what India says about him is totally irrelevant.

 

[shaaik]

What's the likely verdict going to be ?

 

[Obaidd]

What's the likely verdict going to be ?

I have mentioned in OP. What do you think?

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

The verdict doesn't matter. He's still under arrest and won't be going anywhere until he's been milked of all the info.

 

[Obaidd]

The verdict doesn't matter. He's still under arrest and won't be going anywhere until he's been milked of all the info.

You think this is about some info? It is all about perceptions.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

You think this is about some info? It is all about perceptions.

Perceptions of what? He was caught and arrested. The whole case revolves around consular access...not the fact he's a spy who got caught. Regardless of the verdict, he's not going anywhere.

 

[Obaidd]

Perceptions of what? He was caught and arrested. The whole case revolves around consular access...not the fact he's a spy who got caught. Regardless of the verdict, he's not going anywhere.

Not a spy. An agent of state sponsored terrorism according to Pak. Both sides will try to make the most out of a favourable verdict and you will see that at the end of the day, it is the perception that will matter.

Let me give you an example. Most Pakistanis think that their country had an upper hand in the recent tension with India. Indians, however, feel the same way about their country having the upper hand. The reality of whatever occurred is same for both the nations, but the perceptions they have been able to portray are polar opposites. As I said, in this day and age there is a perception war that is also to be won. This case, IMO, is all about perceptions.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Not a spy. An agent of state sponsored terrorism according to Pak. Both sides will try to make the most out of a favourable verdict and you will see that at the end of the day, it is the perception that will matter.

Let me give you an example. Most Pakistanis think that their country had an upper hand in the recent tension with India. Indians, however, feel the same way about their country having the upper hand. The reality of whatever occurred is same for both the nations, but the perceptions they have been able to portray are polar opposites. As I said, in this day and age there is a perception war that is also to be won. This case, IMO, is all about perceptions.

Perceptions are always inevitable, especially with Indians who have a long history of spinning things to fool their own masses.

What Pakistan needs to do is not play into the perceptions. Stick on point and on the matter at large...ISPR does this perfectly, while our media always falls for the prey.

He's caught and he's not going anywhere. That's the only thing that needs to be argued.

India acts like a teenaged girlfriend. When they're wrong, they will always go off tangent and try anything to salvage any self respect. Don't fall for it. If they spin it...let them.

They're only fooling themselves nobody else.

 

[Obaidd]

Ok guys. Tomorrow is the big day. Pak’s record in international cases is poor enough to expect another embarrassment.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Ok guys. Tomorrow is the big day. Pak’s record in international cases is poor enough to expect another embarrassment.

you just created this thread for trolling purpose ? or what ?
as we said before, he not going anywhere, its about consular access, and its pakistan decision to give it or not.

 

[Obaidd]

you just created this thread for trolling purpose ? or what ?
as we said before, he not going anywhere, its about consular access, and its pakistan decision to give it or not.

No not at all.

My point is that if Pak loses this case it would be actually a loss of Pak’s narrative. In my opinion, perceptions are so important in this day and age.

It doesn’t matter if he goes somewhere or not. Hanging an individual does little to change ground realities. My focus is on the media war part of the trial.

I also think that Pakistanis are in for a reality check tomorrow. If we ever needed one.

 

[Lonewarrior]

No not at all.

My point is that if Pak loses this case it would be actually a loss of Pak’s narrative. In my opinion, perceptions are so important in this day and age.

It doesn’t matter if he goes somewhere or not. Hanging an individual does little to change ground realities. My focus is on the media war part of the trial.

I also think that Pakistanis are in for a reality check tomorrow. If we ever needed one.

perception can go to eff itself , let me assure you. he isnt going anywhere.
btw, where are you from pakistan ?

 

[msaaim89]

What time is verdict?

 

[Jaibalayya]

The judge starts reading the verdict in little over 3 hours from now.

 

[Thomaskutty]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fine order on the Kulbhushan Jadhav by ICJ. Affirms his right to consular access, stays his execution and pretty much asks for a fresh trial process that comes up to international norms of jurisprudence. Congratulations to Indian team, MEA, lawyers, esp Harish Salve</p>— Shekhar Gupta (@ShekharGupta) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShekharGupta/status/1151475699112243200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Thomaskutty]

^ ICJ more or less acknowledges the disreputable and cosmetic nature of the judicial system in Pakistan, be it military or civilian. A good verdict, in the circumstances.

 

[Obaidd]

The decision has come in favour of India. Good luck to those who choose to live in lala land.

 

[AdamM97]

No not at all.

My point is that if Pak loses this case it would be actually a loss of Pak’s narrative. In my opinion, perceptions are so important in this day and age.

It doesn’t matter if he goes somewhere or not. Hanging an individual does little to change ground realities. My focus is on the media war part of the trial.

I also think that Pakistanis are in for a reality check tomorrow. If we ever needed one.

Yes, perception is really important. Too bad most Pakistanis don’t realize this.

 

[msaaim89]

This just allows contact.

Doesn't change the fact that he got caught red handed.

 

[PakFan764]

The decision has come in favour of India. Good luck to those who choose to live in lala land.

So what happens now?

How big of a news is this?

 

[WebGuru]

This just allows contact.

Doesn't change the fact that he got caught red handed.

And the retrial is also in Pakistani courts...

 

[AdamM97]

So what happens now?

India gets consular access. The prime plea of India was for the release of Jadhav which didn’t happen but ICJ did ask Pakistan to review the decision to sentence Kulbushan for death sentence.

India may not have gotten what they hoped for but India will use this to further their narrative.

 

[WebGuru]

So in short acquittal denied release denied only access is given and the case is going into Pakistani civil court after military court that means he is going to stay in Pakistan and a repeat of same verdict although this time by a civil court.

 

[AdamM97]

So in short acquittal denied release denied only access is given and the case is going into Pakistani civil court after military court that means he is going to stay in Pakistan and a repeat of same verdict although this time by a civil court.

That’s fine but it’s the narrative that India will spread that’s worrying. Everyone is underestimating the importance of having a narrative.

 

[slipcatch]

Will be found guilty, again.

And, if anyone (mostly civilian of Indian nationality) believe he isn't a Indian State sponsored terrorist then they can continue to live in their world as gullible.

 

[the Great Khan]

The decision has come in favour of India. Good luck to those who choose to live in lala land.

yes the decision that this should be tried in a civil court. it will be done and he will be given a worse punishment lol..he will not be released and consular access will not be given..essentially pakistan doesnt have to do squat..India can cry all it wants but it cannot deny the obvious..that he is a indian citizen..the ICJ was not there to try whether he was a spy or not..India wanted consular access..the ICJ has given a non binding judgment , in other words up to you pakistan..and pakistan says middle finger lol

 

[slipcatch]

That’s fine but it’s the narrative that India will spread that’s worrying. Everyone is underestimating the importance of having a narrative.

Indian narrative is design to keep the gullible civilian Indian on leash.

 

[WebGuru]

That’s fine but it’s the narrative that India will spread that’s worrying. Everyone is underestimating the importance of having a narrative.

I know but we can counter the narrative with a good strategy just like we did in February. This verdict of ICJ was expected so no surprising.

 

[the Great Khan]

^ ICJ more or less acknowledges the disreputable and cosmetic nature of the judicial system in Pakistan, be it military or civilian. A good verdict, in the circumstances.

means nothing...the ICJ has sent it back to pakistan and we will try and convict him again..he has not been acquitted and will never be..

everybody knew the ICJ would favour the Indians, it was a given

 

[cricketjoshila]

So in short acquittal denied release denied only access is given and the case is going into Pakistani civil court after military court that means he is going to stay in Pakistan and a repeat of same verdict although this time by a civil court.

This means that the conviction of the military court has been thrown out and case moves to civil courts.

Pakistan's case that he cannot be given access as he is a spy is thrown out.

He cannot be executed by Pakistan as things stand.

 

[cricketjoshila]

yes the decision that this should be tried in a civil court. it will be done and he will be given a worse punishment lol..he will not be released and consular access will not be given..essentially pakistan doesnt have to do squat..India can cry all it wants but it cannot deny the obvious..that he is a indian citizen..the ICJ was not there to try whether he was a spy or not..India wanted consular access..the ICJ has given a non binding judgment , in other words up to you pakistan..and pakistan says middle finger lol

He has to be given consular access.

And the judgement is binding.

I hope Pakistan doesnot abide by the judgement.

 

[slipcatch]

State sponsored terrorist claimed to be a terrorist who was supported by the state of India and yet these hindutva continue to show support for this terrorist.

Shows how gullible these hindutva (educated or non-educated) are.

 

[the Great Khan]

He has to be given consular access.

And the judgement is binding.

I hope Pakistan doesnot abide by the judgement.

the judgment is non binding..the judgment to review is pakistans to carry out..when and how they like...we will do so and uphold the verdict..we can deny access again as per the 2008 bilateral agreement..essentially the ICJ just washed its hands of this case..lol..jadhav isnt going anywhere and your not going to get consular access to him either..and at the same time you cant go back to the icj eitehr..

 

[WebGuru]

Kalbhoshan Yadev to be forever treated to fantastic tea in Pakistan jail

(copied)

 

[Deewana]

no need to hang this dog keep him in dumps of Balochistan or KPK and let him rot there.. He was a spy and shouldn't be given an easy way out in a death penalty ...let him rot

 

[Abdullah719]

 

[PakLFC]

He is a terrorist caught red handed. If he as India insists was caught in Iran then they have to take it up with them. Pak won't be releasing him no matter what the decision.

 

[Lonewarrior]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fine order on the Kulbhushan Jadhav by ICJ. Affirms his right to consular access, stays his execution and pretty much asks for a fresh trial process that comes up to international norms of jurisprudence. Congratulations to Indian team, MEA, lawyers, esp Harish Salve</p>— Shekhar Gupta (@ShekharGupta) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShekharGupta/status/1151475699112243200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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^ ICJ more or less acknowledges the disreputable and cosmetic nature of the judicial system in Pakistan, be it military or civilian. A good verdict, in the circumstances.

The decision has come in favour of India. Good luck to those who choose to live in lala land.

This means that the conviction of the military court has been thrown out and case moves to civil courts.

Pakistan's case that he cannot be given access as he is a spy is thrown out.

He cannot be executed by Pakistan as things stand.

mid fing..

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mumbai: Friends of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KulbhushanJadhav?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KulbhushanJadhav</a> celebrate after International Court of Justice, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICJ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICJ</a> rules in favour of India. <a href="https://t.co/HfGb7leG0w">pic.twitter.com/HfGb7leG0w</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1151483894337658880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[King-Misbah]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mumbai: Friends of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KulbhushanJadhav?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KulbhushanJadhav</a> celebrate after International Court of Justice, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICJ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICJ</a> rules in favour of India. <a href="https://t.co/HfGb7leG0w">pic.twitter.com/HfGb7leG0w</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1151483894337658880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Indians are really dumb or think everyone else is dumb. Yadav will just get convited again and will rot away in prison. They are celebrating like their friend Nawaz Sharif once did lol.

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mumbai: Friends of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KulbhushanJadhav?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KulbhushanJadhav</a> celebrate after International Court of Justice, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICJ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICJ</a> rules in favour of India. <a href="https://t.co/HfGb7leG0w">pic.twitter.com/HfGb7leG0w</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1151483894337658880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Choti choti khushyaan perosis ki...

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

This means that the conviction of the military court has been thrown out and case moves to civil courts.

Pakistan's case that he cannot be given access as he is a spy is thrown out.

He cannot be executed by Pakistan as things stand.

What does this mean in simple terms?

Whats going to happen now?

 

[cricketjoshila]

the judgment is non binding..the judgment to review is pakistans to carry out..when and how they like...we will do so and uphold the verdict..we can deny access again as per the 2008 bilateral agreement..essentially the ICJ just washed its hands of this case..lol..jadhav isnt going anywhere and your not going to get consular access to him either..and at the same time you cant go back to the icj eitehr..

Judgement says you have to give him consular access. Pakistan is free to not abide by it.

It will mean next time pakistan goes to ICJ againist India, Pakistan will not have a leg to stand on.

 

[Lonewarrior]

the judgment is non binding..the judgment to review is pakistans to carry out..when and how they like...we will do so and uphold the verdict..we can deny access again as per the 2008 bilateral agreement..essentially the ICJ just washed its hands of this case..lol..jadhav isnt going anywhere and your not going to get consular access to him either..and at the same time you cant go back to the icj eitehr..

this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indians are really dumb or think everyone else is dumb. Yadav will just get convited again and will rot away in prison. They are celebrating like their friend Nawaz Sharif once did lol.

Its not about him coming out of jail. Its about exposing pakistan's lies and i hope pakistan doesnot abide by this judgement.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Judgement says you have to give him consular access. Pakistan is free to not abide by it.

It will mean next time pakistan goes to ICJ againist India, Pakistan will not have a leg to stand on.

if you think we will go to ICJ next time for Indus Water treaty issue thn you arent the only one in the world who can think about future ahead.
dont try to be smarty pants all time.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Its not about him coming out of jail. Its about exposing pakistan's lies and i hope pakistan doesnot abide by this judgement.

do you think we care about what indian thinks about pakistan ?

 

[Abdullah719]

ICJ rejects India’s plea for acquittal, repatriation of Kulbhushan Jadhav

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Wednesday rejected New Delhi’s plea to acquit and release self-confessed Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav.

Pakistan’s legal team headed by Attorney General for Pakistan Anwar Mansoor Khan was present in the courtroom where the verdict was announced on Wednesday.

Jadhav, a serving commander in the Indian Navy working for India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was arrested on March 3, 2016, from Balochistan.

Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa on April 10, 2017, endorsed his death penalty.

The international court ordered Pakistan “effective review and reconsideration of the conviction and sentence”, according to a document on the court’s website.

Judges at the UN’s top court ruled Pakistan had breached the Vienna Convention on diplomatic relations, which gives countries the right to consular access when their nationals are arrested abroad.

In June 2017, the Indian spy had filed a mercy petition against his death penalty while India approached the ICJ against the conviction. The ICJ stayed his execution.

India argued that Commander Jadhav was an innocent businessman who was kidnapped from Iran, brought to Pakistan and tortured to confess that he was a commander in the Indian Navy and working for RAW, India’s primary intelligence agency.

Pakistan had rejected all Indian allegations. It said the evidence obtained from Jadhav after his arrest and during the criminal process leading to his conviction was amply demonstrating his activities in fomenting terrorism and engaging in espionage within Pakistan.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2015410/1-icj-starts-announcing-verdict-kulbhushan-jadhav-case/

 

[King-Misbah]

Its not about him coming out of jail. Its about exposing pakistan's lies and i hope pakistan doesnot abide by this judgement.

Yes, Kalbushan was selling mangoes in Balochistan lol. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What does this mean in simple terms?

Whats going to happen now?

1. Pakistan has to allow Consular access to Jadhav.

2.His trial now be reviewed and retried in a civil court.

 

[warcry]

1. Pakistan has to allow Consular access to Jadhav.

2.His trial now be reviewed and retried in a civil court.

and what will happen, when the civilian court issues the same sentence?

 

[Lonewarrior]

1. Pakistan has to allow Consular access to Jadhav.

2.His trial now be reviewed and retried in a civil court.

1. only if we want and whenever we want .

2. in pakistani civil court. it will take forever.

 

[King-Misbah]

1. Pakistan has to allow Consular access to Jadhav.

2.His trial now be reviewed and retried in a civil court.

Pakistan does not has to do anything.

 

[cricketjoshila]

 

[Lonewarrior]

and what will happen, when the civilian court issues the same sentence?

nothing much india can do about this.

 

[Lonewarrior]

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yeah, the Human rights Bullcrap, we gt it.
its only pakistani decision to give him or not.
thanks, but no thanks.

 

[Zeshan547]

Its not about him coming out of jail. Its about exposing pakistan's lies and i hope pakistan doesnot abide by this judgement.

Lol, You are a legend troll, I can give you that. I mean u can really spin out even the biggest facts and truths. I mean thats what you Indians are really good at. In real world iss decision se ghanta fraq na parta, your beloved Innocent terrorist is going nowhere.

 

[AdamM97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="sv"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The verdict is in. Not surprisingly, it allows both sides to claim victory. The ICJ says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> has the right to consular access, but it does not side with India's request that Pak mil court decision be annulled and Jadhav be released. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KulbhushanJadhav?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KulbhushanJadhav</a></p>— Michael Kugelman (@MichaelKugelman) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelKugelman/status/1151480266080342016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17 juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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Looks like India and Pak media will have to work overtime now.

 

[Syed1]

Bhai when Indian media even spun humiliation of 27th Feb in their favour how are you surprised that they are spinning this as an Indian win. )

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">7 points that explain India’s Kulbhushan Jadhav victory. Find out how Pakistan was crushed and shamed globally. <br><br>Watch India Upfront with <a href="https://twitter.com/PadmajaJoshi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@padmajajoshi</a> at 8pm. <br><br>Tweet your congratulatory message using <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaJadhavVictory?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaJadhavVictory</a>. <a href="https://t.co/IJcNY9nyTC">pic.twitter.com/IJcNY9nyTC</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1151490989980340226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Syed1]

He will never go back to India alive, or if he does it will be after he has spent 2-3 decades in jail. ICJ or no ICJ. India can keep crying.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Lol, You are a legend troll, I can give you that. I mean u can really spin out even the biggest facts and truths. I mean thats what you Indians are really good at. In real world iss decision se ghanta fraq na parta, your beloved Innocent terrorist is going nowhere.

the art that every pakistani on social media should learn.

 

[Zeshan547]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">7 points that explain India’s Kulbhushan Jadhav victory. Find out how Pakistan was crushed and shamed globally. <br><br>Watch India Upfront with <a href="https://twitter.com/PadmajaJoshi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@padmajajoshi</a> at 8pm. <br><br>Tweet your congratulatory message using <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaJadhavVictory?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaJadhavVictory</a>. <a href="https://t.co/IJcNY9nyTC">pic.twitter.com/IJcNY9nyTC</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1151490989980340226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Next few days going to be fun watching this indian victory on Indian media, Where are my popcorns

 

[the Great Khan]

Its not about him coming out of jail. Its about exposing pakistan's lies and i hope pakistan doesnot abide by this judgement.

there are no lies. The ICJ have not aquitted him. they have said " please review your decision and do it via a judicial review, upto you how you do it" in other words as we say in urdu "aap ko thaal diya hay inho nay"..

So now what will happen is a civil court with review the decision as per the instructions of the ICJ. it will uphold the decision which the ICJ will accept because that is what it has recommended. Jadhav will remain a terrorist spy and will remain in custody..India will get nothing except conspiracy theories. The ICJ have washed their hands of the case...they will not be hearing it again..

if you read the article from Dawn the other day, posted on this forum, it was pretty accurate.

 

[Obaidd]

As I said in OP, both sides will claim ‘victory’. Still waiting for an OP was so right post

Anyways, never thought my Pakistaniyat would be doubted for calling a spade a spade. Decision is that India is to be given consular access. Even if everything else stays the same, one thing has changed and that is in favour of India. So, guys accept the defeat.

I have no doubt that India is behind terrorist activities in Pak but as far as fighting a case in an international court is concerned I trusted Pak’s legal team to lose. This is an example of lack of talent/expertise/merit which is evident all around me in Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

and what will happen, when the civilian court issues the same sentence?

There is a stay on his execution. He cannot be killed.

His civilian judgement will again be challenged in ICJ.

Right now pakistan has to allow Indian consulars to meet him. They have to look after him well. They have to review his case in a civilian court. He cannot be executed.

 

[Khan12]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">7 points that explain India’s Kulbhushan Jadhav victory. Find out how Pakistan was crushed and shamed globally. <br><br>Watch India Upfront with <a href="https://twitter.com/PadmajaJoshi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@padmajajoshi</a> at 8pm. <br><br>Tweet your congratulatory message using <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaJadhavVictory?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaJadhavVictory</a>. <a href="https://t.co/IJcNY9nyTC">pic.twitter.com/IJcNY9nyTC</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1151490989980340226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Lol. Shameless country getting excited for nothing. This Yadav dog won't be going to India, it's not that he's been released.

 

[Syed1]

There is a stay on his execution. He cannot be killed.

His civilian judgement will again be challenged in ICJ.

Right now pakistan has to allow Indian consulars to meet him. They have to look after him well. They have to review his case in a civilian court. He cannot be executed.

The stay on execution was only till ICJ made its ruling. Learn to read.

 

[the Great Khan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="sv"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The verdict is in. Not surprisingly, it allows both sides to claim victory. The ICJ says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> has the right to consular access, but it does not side with India's request that Pak mil court decision be annulled and Jadhav be released. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KulbhushanJadhav?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KulbhushanJadhav</a></p>— Michael Kugelman (@MichaelKugelman) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelKugelman/status/1151480266080342016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17 juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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Looks like India and Pak media will have to work overtime now.

there you have it in black and white...all india gets is consular access which is actually worse because it proves he is a Indian national travelling into pakistan with a fake passport.

And Pakistans verdict is not annuled so he is according to the ICJ a) an indian citizen as pakistan has said so b) a terrorist spy as it has not annuled the verdict c) will not be released..

so explain what has India won? his release no. An anulled verdict? no..consular access? no..we wont even give them that..

and to top it all off you cant even go back to the ICJ..lol

ab chai piyo..lipton ki..

 

[Syed1]

Also giving him consular access still lies in Pak's hands )


It's not like Indians can waltz in where this dog is held and say we are giving consular access by hook or crook )

 

[the Great Khan]

There is a stay on his execution. He cannot be killed.

His civilian judgement will again be challenged in ICJ.

Right now pakistan has to allow Indian consulars to meet him. They have to look after him well. They have to review his case in a civilian court. He cannot be executed.

lol..Pakistan will simply allow the judicial review to take time, and time and time, and ajourn it as the ICJ has not given a fixed period when the review has to a) start and b) end..so meray bhai the review may start when Jadhav has passed away ...in other words it means diddly squat..

and even if the review is carried out which I highly doubt it will simply give the same verdict..then you can go to teh ICJ beg and plead but he will still not return..

abhi aap pakistani kacheri main intazaar karain lol..

 

[Obaidd]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="sv"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The verdict is in. Not surprisingly, it allows both sides to claim victory. The ICJ says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> has the right to consular access, but it does not side with India's request that Pak mil court decision be annulled and Jadhav be released. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KulbhushanJadhav?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KulbhushanJadhav</a></p>— Michael Kugelman (@MichaelKugelman) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelKugelman/status/1151480266080342016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17 juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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Looks like India and Pak media will have to work overtime now.

Trust Michael Kugelman. He is neutral usually.

 

[barah_admi]

there you have it in black and white...all india gets is consular access which is actually worse because it proves he is a Indian national travelling into pakistan with a fake passport.

And Pakistans verdict is not annuled so he is according to the ICJ a) an indian citizen as pakistan has said so b) a terrorist spy as it has not annuled the verdict c) will not be released..

so explain what has India won? his release no. An anulled verdict? no..consular access? no..we wont even give them that..

and to top it all off you cant even go back to the ICJ..lol

ab chai piyo..lipton ki..

One of the great posts hahahaha

 

[Syed1]

Also those claiming that this is Indian win, first read up what India's argument was. They wanted full acquittal and release of the dog. Did it happen?