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Abid, Fawad, Azhar all make the team ahead of him right now. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean they themselves should be in the team. For the SA series, I would prefer if Mohammad Wasim’s Test XI (or well, the XI played by Misbah from Wasim’s 15 man squad) would look like this:

Karachi Test

1. Shan Masood
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Haider Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Saud Shakeel
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Zafar Gohar
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Mohammad Abbas

12th - Hasan Ali

Rawalpindi Test
1. Shan Masood
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Haider Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Saud Shakeel
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Zafar Gohar
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Mohammad Abbas
11. Naseem Shah

12th - Hasan Ali
 
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I’d take a 45 year old Younis Khan over Haris on current fitness.

Abid, Fawad, Azhar all make the team ahead of him right now. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean they themselves should be in the team. For the SA series, I would prefer if Mohammad Wasim’s Test XI (or well, the XI played by Misbah from Wasim’s 15 man squad) would look like this:

Karachi Test

1. Shan Masood
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Haider Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Saud Shakeel
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Zafar Gohar
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Mohammad Abbas

12th - Hasan Ali

Rawalpindi Test
1. Shan Masood
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Haider Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Saud Shakeel
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Zafar Gohar
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Mohammad Abbas
11. Naseem Shah

12th - Hasan Ali

I'd play guys who know these grounds best i.e. Fawad has scored plenty in Pakistan and specifically has a good record in Karachi, it's pathetic that based on age you would drop someone. I agree that Azhar Ali has been given a free ride but what has Imam done to merit a return? What has been his performance? We look at one season for a guy and then say oh he deserves a shot. I'd wanna also see how Numan Ali does in Karachi he would be my pick for sure as he's been in red hot form.
 
I'd play guys who know these grounds best i.e. Fawad has scored plenty in Pakistan and specifically has a good record in Karachi, it's pathetic that based on age you would drop someone. I agree that Azhar Ali has been given a free ride but what has Imam done to merit a return? What has been his performance? We look at one season for a guy and then say oh he deserves a shot. I'd wanna also see how Numan Ali does in Karachi he would be my pick for sure as he's been in red hot form.

I guess I should have clarified. It’s not about winning this series against SA. It’s about cultivating a strong crop of young players who will be ready by the next 2021-2023 Test championship cycle, or who will be ready for the next SENA tour. Maybe Fawad’s performance in the upcoming NZ tests will shed better light on this, but will Fawad play for 3 more years even in our wildest dreams? He’s already 35, and he’s no Younis Khan.

I don’t agree on dropping players based on age. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to play until the age of 40 as long as you are a fit fielder, run between the wickets as well as a 20 year old, and can consistently score the runs expected of a 40 year old.

If Fawad can hit a purple patch for the next 5 years, by all means, but an examination of his technique, footwork, stance, and performance in England leaves some things to be desired. Regardless, I respect the stats he’s been putting up, so I’ll leave my judgment be until the New Zealand tests come about.

We have to keep our eyes on the bigger picture and develop specific people who we think can serve us 3 years from now. Otherwise, we will be in a rebuilding phase again as soon as Fawad’s form declines, because around that time 2 years from now, Yasir Shah (or Nauman Ali), Azhar Ali, and Mohammad Abbas will all need to be replaced. All at the same time.
 
I’d take a 45 year old Younis Khan over Haris on current fitness.

Abid, Fawad, Azhar all make the team ahead of him right now. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean they themselves should be in the team. For the SA series, I would prefer if Mohammad Wasim’s Test XI (or well, the XI played by Misbah from Wasim’s 15 man squad) would look like this:

Karachi Test

1. Shan Masood
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Haider Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Saud Shakeel
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Zafar Gohar
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Mohammad Abbas

12th - Hasan Ali

Rawalpindi Test
1. Shan Masood
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Haider Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Saud Shakeel
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Zafar Gohar
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Mohammad Abbas
11. Naseem Shah

12th - Hasan Ali

This team is full of flaws tbh. There is no way we can win in Karachi with 2 seamers. One of which is Abbas. This whole domestic season all the spinners have failed in National Stadium Karachi. Seamers have one game and will continue to do so as the National Stadiums pitch doesn't go through much wear and tear. Unless Azhar and Fawad fail miserably in both tests there is no merit in dropping them.

Imam has no claim on the test side. We need to replace Abid but no one has stepped up. Here if we had let Abdullah play the whole QeA we might have had a problem solved. So we might as well stick with Abid for now as he can make runs in Pakistan.
 
This team is full of flaws tbh. There is no way we can win in Karachi with 2 seamers. One of which is Abbas. This whole domestic season all the spinners have failed in National Stadium Karachi. Seamers have one game and will continue to do so as the National Stadiums pitch doesn't go through much wear and tear. Unless Azhar and Fawad fail miserably in both tests there is no merit in dropping them.

Imam has no claim on the test side. We need to replace Abid but no one has stepped up. Here if we had let Abdullah play the whole QeA we might have had a problem solved. So we might as well stick with Abid for now as he can make runs in Pakistan.

Abbas and Hassan Ali have both done excellently in Karachi, from what I’ve been seeing? Correct me if I’m wrong. Who is your third seamer?

Azhar and Fawad — I would keep the one who succeeds more, at best. I’m not interested in the series victory against SA, but rather in series victories between 2021-2023.

I do not think there is a big difference between Fawad Alam and Saud Shakeel. There might be a big difference between Azhar and Imam.

But like you said, no one has stepped up to replace Abid — most likely, he’ll end up getting the games.

You seem to be talking about a likely lineup, so I’ll put my predicted lineup forward too:

1. Shan Masood
2. Abid Ali
3. Azhar Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Fawad Alam
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Mohammad Abbas
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Naseem Shah

This meets the specifications in your post too, I just don’t think it’s the best route for the future.
 
I guess I should have clarified. It’s not about winning this series against SA. It’s about cultivating a strong crop of young players who will be ready by the next 2021-2023 Test championship cycle, or who will be ready for the next SENA tour. Maybe Fawad’s performance in the upcoming NZ tests will shed better light on this, but will Fawad play for 3 more years even in our wildest dreams? He’s already 35, and he’s no Younis Khan.

I don’t agree on dropping players based on age. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to play until the age of 40 as long as you are a fit fielder, run between the wickets as well as a 20 year old, and can consistently score the runs expected of a 40 year old.

If Fawad can hit a purple patch for the next 5 years, by all means, but an examination of his technique, footwork, stance, and performance in England leaves some things to be desired. Regardless, I respect the stats he’s been putting up, so I’ll leave my judgment be until the New Zealand tests come about.

We have to keep our eyes on the bigger picture and develop specific people who we think can serve us 3 years from now. Otherwise, we will be in a rebuilding phase again as soon as Fawad’s form declines, because around that time 2 years from now, Yasir Shah (or Nauman Ali), Azhar Ali, and Mohammad Abbas will all need to be replaced. All at the same time.

We are playing a test championship it should be about winning and not just playing this as an ordinary series, if it was an Odi or t20 series fair play but not tests push for that W. It's an assumption to think someone will decline in the next few years, we can't do that. I can understand that someone like Fawad didn't exactly perform well in England but that's not exactly the most ideal location for a comeback as is NZ and think you can perhaps agree with that.

Play the right players for the right conditions i say and don't go completely new. You need an older head in the middle to be able to talk a player through a tough situation i.e. the practise game played recently when Fawad and Rohail made centuries. However, that's something we overlook.

There should be a mix of youth and experience, i.e. having 1 or 2 fresh faces along with experienced heads.
 
Abbas and Hassan Ali have both done excellently in Karachi, from what I’ve been seeing? Correct me if I’m wrong. Who is your third seamer?

Azhar and Fawad — I would keep the one who succeeds more, at best. I’m not interested in the series victory against SA, but rather in series victories between 2021-2023.

I do not think there is a big difference between Fawad Alam and Saud Shakeel. There might be a big difference between Azhar and Imam.

But like you said, no one has stepped up to replace Abid — most likely, he’ll end up getting the games.

You seem to be talking about a likely lineup, so I’ll put my predicted lineup forward too:

1. Shan Masood
2. Abid Ali
3. Azhar Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Fawad Alam
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Mohammad Abbas
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Naseem Shah

This meets the specifications in your post too, I just don’t think it’s the best route for the future.

I'm a little disappointed with the fitness of Abid, he's really chubbed up and that's not a good sign.
 
Abbas and Hassan Ali have both done excellently in Karachi, from what I’ve been seeing? Correct me if I’m wrong. Who is your third seamer?

Azhar and Fawad — I would keep the one who succeeds more, at best. I’m not interested in the series victory against SA, but rather in series victories between 2021-2023.

I do not think there is a big difference between Fawad Alam and Saud Shakeel. There might be a big difference between Azhar and Imam.

But like you said, no one has stepped up to replace Abid — most likely, he’ll end up getting the games.

You seem to be talking about a likely lineup, so I’ll put my predicted lineup forward too:

1. Shan Masood
2. Abid Ali
3. Azhar Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Fawad Alam
7. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Mohammad Abbas
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Naseem Shah

This meets the specifications in your post too, I just don’t think it’s the best route for the future.

Yeah, Hasan Ali is good. But you had him as the 12th man in Karachi. Otherwise, I would like to replace Abid but I don't see who would do it. U would like to give youngsters a go too but losing a home series to South Africa wouldn't be the best of outcomes either.
 
Yeah, Hasan Ali is good. But you had him as the 12th man in Karachi. Otherwise, I would like to replace Abid but I don't see who would do it. U would like to give youngsters a go too but losing a home series to South Africa wouldn't be the best of outcomes either.

Will we really lose though? Why is there so little faith in youngsters who have been in the form of their life in domestic cricket?
 
1 Sharjeel Khan
2 Mohammad Rizwan
3 Haider Ali
4 Babar Azam
5 Mohammad Hafeez
6 Hussain Talat
7 Iftikhar Ahmed
8 Shadab Khan
9 Imad Wasim
10 Usman Qadir
11 Fahim Ashraf
12 Hassan Ali
13 Mohammad Hassnain
14 Wahab Riaz
15 Haris Rauf
16 Aamir Yamin

**Sharjeel Khan In ( Abdullah Shafiq is not out but he needs atleast two seasons in domestic season and needs to perform in coming Psl also)

**Aamir Yamin in ( Khushdil Shah Out)

**Hassan Ali in ( Shaheen Shah Deserve Rest)
 
Oh pls Wahab riaz again.. he should be nowhere near the team ever since the spanking he got against India in CT17 league game and faked injury during the match when going at a ER of 9+ ..Sent back to home which helped the team to win the tournament
 
Babar Azam (c), Haider Ali, Mohammad Hafeez, Khushdil Shah, Iftikhar Ahmed, Mohammad Rizwan (wk), Hussain Talat, Faheem Ashraf, Shadab Khan (vc), Imad Wasim, Usman Qadir, Shaheen Shah Afridi,
Mohammad Musa, Haris Rauf, Mohammad Hasnain
 
Haider Ali and Khushdil Shah both looked good although did not score big in NZ. I would persist with them as they are youngsters.
 
An avg of 35+ after playing for 10 years for a bowler and still playing is cruel for others.

He has pace but , what to do with it, if no wickets. These days bowling machine can bowl faster than this spray gun.
 
I really wonder if M Wasim will go with a different selection policy.

Misbah already tried out many newbies, but M Wasim is known for focused selections selecting players purely on their skills instead of stats and dhoom daraka league performances.
 
Mohammad Wasim will have a different team in mind, he's more likely to consider the balance of the team far more than the likes of Misbah and Waqar could have ever done.

He won't pick technically weak players, and I know that he has a few people in mind for this series as well.

He rates a few kids very highly as well, won't be surprised if he gives chances to a few other youngsters or people he thinks are in form.

Most of the squad will probably be the same given that it's his first series, but he may also make some changes to show why he is here.

Mostly needs to find an opener to accompany Babar and a middle order batsman who can score at a relatively reasonable pace. If we don't have that, look no further than Shoaib Malik.
 
Mohammad Wasim will have a different team in mind, he's more likely to consider the balance of the team far more than the likes of Misbah and Waqar could have ever done.

He won't pick technically weak players, and I know that he has a few people in mind for this series as well.

He rates a few kids very highly as well, won't be surprised if he gives chances to a few other youngsters or people he thinks are in form.

Most of the squad will probably be the same given that it's his first series, but he may also make some changes to show why he is here.

Mostly needs to find an opener to accompany Babar and a middle order batsman who can score at a relatively reasonable pace. If we don't have that, look no further than Shoaib Malik.

Yes two spots are open now. Opening and one middle order spot.

With the game and runs today Rizwan might be persisted to open in t20s and will be tried in ODIs too.

For the middle order position he might get Umar Amin or Haris Sohail in, both of them have that game to play the power game and also proper batsman shots.

I’m sure Wahab is gone fgs. I’m thinking he will get Qasim Akram in.
 
Personally, I think Sharjeel needs to be given a shot since Pakistan have so few explosive batsmen and he has been doing very well in FC.

Danish Aziz needs to be given a shot as well and I don't really think Talat on the squad makes sense. He is another accumulator who doesn't have the ability to play dynamic shots or hit sixes.

Sharjeel
Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Khushdil/Aziz
Shadab
Rizwan
Imad/Qadir
Faheem
Hasnain
Rauf

And please rest Shaheen after the SA Test matches.
 
When will SA announce their squad? Soo interested to know which player will be travelling to pakistan. Anyone know?
 
May be its just my personal fantasy which needs a one time feeding but i want to see Sharjeel and Fakhar open together in a series.

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Muhammad Hafeez
5. Shadab Khan
6. M Rizwan
7. Imad Wasim
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Haris Rauf
11. M Hasnain
12. Haider Ali
13. Khushdil Shah
14. Iftikhar Ahmed
15. Muhammad Musa
16. Hassan Ali
 
No Haider Ali in Tests now. Needs to learn to play long innings, and tests against a strong side isn't the place for that. FC is there.
 
T20 squad for south africa

Sharjeel,haider,babar,rizwan,rohail,Khushdil,iftikhar,talat,Ashraf
,husnain,shaheen,raufshadab,qadir,imad
 
In tests it depends how abid,azhar,fawad,sohail do.

People who may given a chance.
Kamran ghullam,saud shakeel,imaam ul haq
 
The test squad should look something like this:

Shan Masood
Abid Ali
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Fawad Alam/Haris Sohail
Saud Shakeel
Mohammad Rizwan
Zafar Gohar
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Abbas
 
T20Is

1) Babar Azam (c)
2) Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
3) Haider Ali
4) Mohammad Hafeez
5) Shadab Khan
6) Iftikhar Ahmed
7) Imad Wasim
8) Fahim Ashraf
9) Usman Qadir
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Haris Rauf

12) Wahab Riaz
13) Mohammad Hasnain
14) Khushdil Shah
15) Azam Khan (wk)
16) Zafar Gohar

This would be my squad. Have doubts on the Babar-Rizwan opening combo, but Rizwan has earned it for now.

If Danish Aziz and Zeeshan Malik impress in the Shaheens games, they can be included too.
 
The test squad should look something like this:

Shan Masood
Abid Ali
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Fawad Alam/Haris Sohail
Saud Shakeel
Mohammad Rizwan
Zafar Gohar
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Abbas

You think they will stil back abid ali,fawad,haris even if they fail against new zealand
 
The best way to destroy a young players confidence is by making him debut on a difficult away tour where conditions are foreign to them and then dropping them for the next series in home conditions.

Abdullah Shafiq and Haidar Ali must be backed for the SA series. Let them build there confidence at home on flat pitches.

Starting XI vs SA

Abdullah Shafiq
Babar Azam
Haidar Ali
Mohammad Hafeez
Ifthikar Ahmed
Zeeshan Ashraf (WK)
Imad Wasim
Shadab Khan (c)
Musa Khan
Haris Rauf
Mohammad Husnain

Bench
Sharjeel Khan
Shoaib Malik
Mohammad Rizwan
Zafar Gohar
Wahab Riaz
 
You think they will stil back abid ali,fawad,haris even if they fail against new zealand

Depends on Mohammad Wasim. Most selectors go with the original squad and see what they believe must be changed, and that is what will probably happen.
 
Depends on Mohammad Wasim. Most selectors go with the original squad and see what they believe must be changed, and that is what will probably happen.

I agree he will go with the same selection but that could change if abid and so on have a proper poor series
 
The best way to destroy a young players confidence is by making him debut on a difficult away tour where conditions are foreign to them and then dropping them for the next series in home conditions.

Abdullah Shafiq and Haidar Ali must be backed for the SA series. Let them build there confidence at home on flat pitches.

Starting XI vs SA

Abdullah Shafiq
Babar Azam
Haidar Ali
Mohammad Hafeez
Ifthikar Ahmed
Zeeshan Ashraf (WK)
Imad Wasim
Shadab Khan (c)
Musa Khan
Haris Rauf
Mohammad Husnain

Bench
Sharjeel Khan
Shoaib Malik
Mohammad Rizwan
Zafar Gohar
Wahab Riaz

no shaheen you want to rest him or you dropped him?
 
no shaheen you want to rest him or you dropped him?

Rest, he doesn’t need to play every game especially during covid pandemic where players are forced to stay in a bubble and away from family.

We need to see how Musa Khan and Husnain play together, and test our bench strength before WT20.
 
Rest, he doesn’t need to play every game especially during covid pandemic where players are forced to stay in a bubble and away from family.

We need to see how Musa Khan and Husnain play together, and test our bench strength before WT20.

Thats fine :) yes both need to tested husnain seems decent and gone better as for musa not to sure
 
The best way to destroy a young players confidence is by making him debut on a difficult away tour where conditions are foreign to them and then dropping them for the next series in home conditions.

Abdullah Shafiq and Haidar Ali must be backed for the SA series. Let them build there confidence at home on flat pitches.

Starting XI vs SA

Abdullah Shafiq
Babar Azam
Haidar Ali
Mohammad Hafeez
Ifthikar Ahmed
Zeeshan Ashraf (WK)
Imad Wasim
Shadab Khan (c)
Musa Khan
Haris Rauf
Mohammad Husnain

Bench
Sharjeel Khan
Shoaib Malik
Mohammad Rizwan
Zafar Gohar
Wahab Riaz

Take Musa Khan out of the team and replace him with Faheem Ashraf, who has performed much better with the chances he's been provided.

We cannot take a team of 16 year olds to a World Cup, and we cannot have so many youngsters on the team in a series we need to win.
 
My XI for the SA home T20I series is :
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Babar Azam
3. Fakhar Zaman
4. Haider Ali
5. Mohammad Hafeez
6. Azam Khan
7. Shadab Khan
8. Imad Wasim
9. Haris Rauf
10. Mohammad Hasnain
11. Naseem Shah

With the world cup fast approching we have to try Naseem Shah and Azam Khan in this format to know if we are bringing them to the world cup.
 
Do not like Malik but he has a lot of experience and is probably still 2x the fielder that Khushdil type guys are.

I don't think Azam is ready for international cricket but this is an extremely inconsequential series and it would be nice to see him tried instead of the other names. I'd be tempted to try Sharjeel for the same reasons before the more important assignments start.

Babar can do what Babar does while everyone else around him can take the more explosive route. I'd want to have Hasan back because he's probably one of the cleanest strikers available in Pakistan and now that he's fit, it will be good to have his energy back in the playing 11.

Sharjeel
Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Azam
Iftikhar
Shadab
Hasan
Imad
Hasnain
Rauf

Bench:

Malik
Abdullah
Qadir
Rizwan
Fahim/Amir Yamin
 
Take Musa Khan out of the team and replace him with Faheem Ashraf, who has performed much better with the chances he's been provided.

We cannot take a team of 16 year olds to a World Cup, and we cannot have so many youngsters on the team in a series we need to win.

This is the perfect time to test your bench strength. We need to see if they’re good enough or not because there’s plenty of other players waiting in line. Misbah for some reason keeps selecting Musa but is hesitant in playing him. If you don’t think he can perform then you shouldn’t select him.
 
My XI for the SA home T20I series is :
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Babar Azam
3. Fakhar Zaman
4. Haider Ali
5. Mohammad Hafeez
6. Azam Khan
7. Shadab Khan
8. Imad Wasim
9. Haris Rauf
10. Mohammad Hasnain
11. Naseem Shah

With the world cup fast approching we have to try Naseem Shah and Azam Khan in this format to know if we are bringing them to the world cup.

Why move Hafeez to 5? If it ain’t broken don’t fix it.
 
Why move Hafeez to 5? If it ain’t broken don’t fix it.

I was hesitating between Hafeez and Haider.
But having Haider and Azam at 5-6 will make the lower order too much inexperienced.
Hafeez can hold the innings together at 5.
 
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