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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Team management had not been made aware by Umar Akmal that he was going to attend the Akon concert last Friday after the 4th ODI. Management are going to request that Umar is not considered by the selectors for this year's World Cup <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1112711446754967552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is ridiculous!!! He deserved to be dropped solely on his on field performances (or lack thereof). By linking it to a consort, they'll only be creating another controversy.
 
When ever you thought finally pakistan will play worldcup without any controversy same thing happen.

Disgusting and idiotic from umar akmal.Glad his performances are not up to mark to be even automatic choice for team.
 
Umar Plays 5 ODIs, doesnt perform so should be dropped.

However, how many team favourites havent performed in the side yet are retained!

Clearly some players get longer ropes then others.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Team management had not been made aware by Umar Akmal that he was going to attend the Akon concert last Friday after the 4th ODI. Management are going to request that Umar is not considered by the selectors for this year's World Cup <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1112711446754967552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I would instead fire the whole team management
 
I guess performance based selection is the selections committee jurisdiction - management probably shouldn't request players be excluded based on performance

by using the concert (i highly doubt Akmal made it back in time for curfew), management can make requests without going into performance
 
The guy is the Michael Jackson of Pakistan cricket. Just cant stay away from controversy it seems!
 
I would instead fire the whole team management

Yes because they didn’t put on ankle bracelet on Akmal and keep tabs on him at all time.

To be honest, I’m sure it’s fairly common for players to go out on tour without explicitly telling management. However when that person has a history of discipline issues, is making a comeback to the team and then releases a video to social media of this night out during a tour... he is just asking for trouble. Can’t blame the management here.
 
Shame on Ehsan Mani and this new MD.

What Imran Khan saw in Mani to give him PCB chairmanship?

This shows the management is helpless infront of selection committee and CS Inzamam is answerable to no one. SHAME.

He does'nt deserve to be in the team anyways.
 
Umar Akmal and his scandals.

Also wouldn’t have made the squad because of his performances.

Hopefully this was the last we’ve seen of U Akmal in the Green shirt.
 
Umar Plays 5 ODIs, doesnt perform so should be dropped.

However, how many team favourites havent performed in the side yet are retained!

Clearly some players get longer ropes then others.
I dont think the ropes gets any longer than Umar’s.. maybe Sami during his time got it more than Junior.

He keeps coming back, screwing up on and off the field and yet manages to find a way to stage a come back..

I think its about time we say good riddance..
 
He’s still a fool.

But hold on, this was a Day/Night series.

Shouldn’t the curfew therefore by definition be 3-4 hours later than the curfew for a Day match?

It’s only logical.

If for a Day Test players have to be back at the hotel by 11 pm, then automatically for a Day/Night ODI series that should be 3 am.

I don’t expect a Policeman or Nurse on Night Shift to go to bed at the same time as when on a Day Shift.

The only issue is time. No issue with a sportsman drinking moderately 36 hours before a match.

Still his own worst enemy.
 
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He wasn't outstanding but was a complete failure either. Cruel to ruthlessly discard someone after one comeback series.
 
Sanity prevails.. a 20-30 player on a good day. Time to move on again... this time no need to look back.
 
Why does he not take extra care to avoid controversies especially when knows his own record. :facepalm:
 
He wasn't outstanding but was a complete failure either. Cruel to ruthlessly discard someone after one comeback series.
Give him another comeback series after the World Cup then.

But seriously what’s with the regular and continuous and flagrant abuse of discipline? He continues to do it without any shame.. if he wants to make a perm place In the team why can’t he control himself for a while?
 
Completely ridiculous by our management....

Such a joke :facepalm:
 
He’s still a fool.

But hold on, this was a Day/Night series.

Shouldn’t the curfew therefore by definition be 3-4 hours later than the curfew for a Day match?

It’s only logical.

If for a Day Test players have to be back at the hotel by 11 pm, then automatically for a Day/Night ODI series that should be 3 am.

I don’t expect a Policeman or Nurse on Night Shift to go to bed at the same time as when on a Day Shift.

The only issue is time. No issue with a sportsman drinking moderately 36 hours before a match.

Still his own worst enemy.

You will just defend him no matter what.

In the tweet above, it clearly says the issue is management not being made aware of where he was rather than just the time.

I am sure if Umar said to management - ‘look on Friday night I want to go to a concert. I will be there from 10pm to 2am. I be back in the hotel by 2.30am. That is outside the curfew, however I will be at the training session at 11am. Please can I attend’, it would have been a very different scenario.
 
The guy is the Michael Jackson of Pakistan cricket. Just cant stay away from controversy it seems!

You could've picked any celebrity out there and you pick Jackson? Especially since his "controversies" are way more than just a slap on the wrist. :))
 
PCB Media Release : Umar Akmal fined 20 per cent of his match fee

Lahore, 1 March 2019:

Pakistan’s middle-order batsman Umar Akmal has been fined 20 per cent of his match fee and has also received an official reprimand for a late night-out ahead of Sunday’s fifth ODI against Australia in Dubai.

Umar pleaded guilty to the charge, apologised for his actions and accepted the sanction proposed by team manager Talat Ali.

PCB Managing Director Wasim Khan said: “I am glad that Umar has realised his mistake, and has accepted and apologised for his actions, which were clearly unprofessional and in no way can be ignored or overlooked.

“The PCB expects a high level of professionalism and commitment from its players, and this action is a reiteration and timely reminder that any indiscipline shall not be tolerated or accepted.”

The PCB will not be making any further comment on this matter.
 
I am against this headmaster approach. Our 70's to 90's team enjoyed many nights out and won games for the country. Players should be allowed to de stress.
 
I am against this headmaster approach. Our 70's to 90's team enjoyed many nights out and won games for the country. Players should be allowed to de stress.

that part is important.

When as a team you are doing diddly then its time to buckle-down and concentrate
 
He is just very thick, i mean he can bat and has a good level of natural ability but boy is he stupid. Shame as there was a genuine need for us to have a power player with Babar, Harris, Malik, Rizwan, Sarfraz we did not have anyone who could clear the ropes easy
 
Did anyone see that video? Thats the funniest thing amidst all this drama :))) it was as if Junior was mocking everyone and saying "i will enjoy, do whatever you can" :yk
 
I am against this headmaster approach. Our 70's to 90's team enjoyed many nights out and won games for the country. Players should be allowed to de stress.

When One don't have discipline in life he/she will struggle to go far. Players of previous era had different set of high class skills. Today's players we are generating are below average.
 
I am against this headmaster approach. Our 70's to 90's team enjoyed many nights out and won games for the country. Players should be allowed to de stress.

How can we expect our team to modernize if we deem it normal for them to engage in all old practices?

Think about it? Then we complain about our team not keeping up with the times.

The striking difference between top performers and bottom ones these days is the professionalism and preparation they put in. People like kohli, Williamson, Amla, smith, etc are guys who were probably considered similar in talent to akmal but look at them now. Its all about dedication and professionalism which our guys lack.

There is a reason you never heard such stuff about Misbah, Younis, etc..
 
How can we expect our team to modernize if we deem it normal for them to engage in all old practices?

Think about it? Then we complain about our team not keeping up with the times.

The striking difference between top performers and bottom ones these days is the professionalism and preparation they put in. People like kohli, Williamson, Amla, smith, etc are guys who were probably considered similar in talent to akmal but look at them now. Its all about dedication and professionalism which our guys lack.

There is a reason you never heard such stuff about Misbah, Younis, etc..

I am sure those players have outings as well to relax and get their mind of things.
 
I dont think the ropes gets any longer than Umar’s.. maybe Sami during his time got it more than Junior.

He keeps coming back, screwing up on and off the field and yet manages to find a way to stage a come back..

I think its about time we say good riddance..

Dont disagree with him having to go, but we persist with losers like hafeez, malik and sarfraz who are no better.
 
Dont disagree with him having to go, but we persist with losers like hafeez, malik and sarfraz who are no better.

Hafeez is a match winner and has proved it countless times, Sarfraz and Malik I agree with.
 
Lol at people supporting him for time to de-stress during such a short tour. If he was so stressed and needed entertainment should have stayed on Pakistan and attend night clubs. Shemeless character, someone who is keep getting lucky to be welcomed back again and again, but rather than proving his dedication and commitment to the cause of the team and his personal fitness and practice is clubbing. There are lots of talented players in Pakistan who are hungry for one chance.
 
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With all the on field pressure, he just went to listen to some music to release stress so he could perform better. Nothing wrong in it.
 
Dont disagree with him having to go, but we persist with losers like hafeez, malik and sarfraz who are no better.

problem is we dont know how to handle different personality.

Malik and Umar akmal might be performing the same, but because Malik has the personality of being a respected experience senior we wil not bash him much..
Umar being a personality who is abit care free and doesnt try to be a wannabe senior, will get scrutinized more.

If Pakistan had personalities like Darren Sammy, trust me our board would dislike them.

There is a personality bias here.

I wouldn't want malik, hafeez, or even sarfraz or umar akmal, but i hate the biasness we show when dealing with different guys.

had malik scored 150 in this series, no one would had pointed fingers.
 
Fine was justified, but it could happen close doors. No need to make press releases. PRess releases are just dramaybaazi just to show that PCB does work.

WHat difference will this Press Release make?

Give a fine, and thats it, no need to make it public.
 
We don’t have any match winners except Babar azam and Amir and he is no longer the amir he used to be. Baaki sab aisey hi hein.. Hafeez is no match winner
 
problem is we dont know how to handle different personality.

Malik and Umar akmal might be performing the same, but because Malik has the personality of being a respected experience senior we wil not bash him much..
Umar being a personality who is abit care free and doesnt try to be a wannabe senior, will get scrutinized more.

If Pakistan had personalities like Darren Sammy, trust me our board would dislike them.

There is a personality bias here.

I wouldn't want malik, hafeez, or even sarfraz or umar akmal, but i hate the biasness we show when dealing with different guys.

had malik scored 150 in this series, no one would had pointed fingers.

If Malik scored 150 going out on same slog unnecessarily 5 times, when it was not required ,and then also falunted the rule books then he would also be kicked out.
 
When you're already on thin ice, atleast be smart and follow the rules properly. This was his chance to get in the WC but ruined it.
 
We don’t have any match winners except Babar azam and Amir and he is no longer the amir he used to be. Baaki sab aisey hi hein.. Hafeez is no match winner

Shaheen Shah would be more a match winner this WC than Amir, even Shinwari if he maintains new found displine. Fakhar also has a shout,and so does Shadab against non Asian teams, despiteany posters not rating him.
 
Fine was justified, but it could happen close doors. No need to make press releases. PRess releases are just dramaybaazi just to show that PCB does work.

WHat difference will this Press Release make?

Give a fine, and thats it, no need to make it public.

And if they don't it would be called hiding under carpet.
 
And if they don't it would be called hiding under carpet.

who said they are hiding under teh carpet?

what does this press release bring tell me that? This press release holds no purpose.

The only thing they are doing here is just showing everyone that we are doing our job.

Like players, even the sports boards are required to deal with things behind the doors.
Im not saying dont fine him. Fine him all you want, but sometimes theer are thigns taht dont need to be discussed in public.

Like for example, PCB doesnt apprecaite players discussing certain matters in public, like bad umpiring, or dressing room drama
 
I don’t care about Umar Akmal but really? AKON’S BACK??!?!?
 
If Malik scored 150 going out on same slog unnecessarily 5 times, when it was not required ,and then also falunted the rule books then he would also be kicked out.

na he wouldnt.

THere is a certain bias

Sarfraz hasnt performed for a long time, yet he will be leading in the world cup
 
Enough is enough, he's had enough chances.

He left the team hotel to attend this concert without informing the team management and also broke team curfew rules.

How many times is this guy going to let himself and his country down.
 
na he wouldnt.

THere is a certain bias

Sarfraz hasnt performed for a long time, yet he will be leading in the world cup

Sarfraz rather than being a destructive impact is actually just the type of captain Pak needs to keep our dopey players on their toe,and also he is proactively engaged with our bowlers giving them tips and keeping them conscious of match situation. His keeping has been excellent last year. Yes he has been a let down as batsman but trust me Umar despite all his so called talent would average no better purely as a batsman. It was too late to remove Sarfraz for his bad batting form. And we need his safe keeping and better than average captaincy. He does not break PCB rules either.
 
I’d rather play for UAE cricket team then Pakistan. Literally treated like kids. Can’t even go and enjoy yourself. So silly
 
who said they are hiding under teh carpet?

what does this press release bring tell me that? This press release holds no purpose.

The only thing they are doing here is just showing everyone that we are doing our job.

Like players, even the sports boards are required to deal with things behind the doors.
Im not saying dont fine him. Fine him all you want, but sometimes theer are thigns taht dont need to be discussed in public.

Like for example, PCB doesnt apprecaite players discussing certain matters in public, like bad umpiring, or dressing room drama

Public need to know why Umar would not be considered, and all disciplines are made public. Why would you hide it?
Did BCCI hid Pandya suspension?
 
I’d rather play for UAE cricket team then Pakistan. Literally treated like kids. Can’t even go and enjoy yourself. So silly
Enjoying does not mean getting drunk out of your mind (if he indeed was the way he looked) and clubbing till dawn on the middle of short tour,breaking curfew.
 
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Public need to know why Umar would not be considered, and all disciplines are made public. Why would you hide it?
Did BCCI hid Pandya suspension?

Pandya case was different.

This is a different case.

Also, Umar Akmal is being dropped on performance, not based on a curfew. The curfew thing is an easy excuse to use in media.

You just blame discipline issues on a players non selection, media won't bother you.

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You really think Umar akmal is the only player out of all the Top test teams that violated his curfew? Many players do it and thos fines are given behind closed doors.

A curfew and making a comment on women, there is big difference.

Also im not a fan of umar akmal, and wouldnt even want him in the team. But whats wrong is wrong.
 
He wasn't going to make the World Cup Squad in any case, on performance alone. In that sense, I'm glad Haris and Rizwan have stood up and performed. It means Umer's issues are less significant for Pakistan.

Umer Akmal may never grow up it seems.

What disappointed me in this series is how much he's let his fielding go. For all his batting failures, he was a gem in the field in the past. His fielding in this series was however well below average. Maybe he had a few poor games. Or maybe he just hasn't kept fielding standards up during his absence from the team.
 
I’d rather play for UAE cricket team then Pakistan. Literally treated like kids. Can’t even go and enjoy yourself. So silly

nope, sports teams have rules.

If you look at the NBA, NHL teams, there are certain rules in place. Curfew time is compulsory.

But a professional sports body doesnt go to the media and make press releases that our players were fined because they did such and such thing which you guys not know, but we are just telling you for the sake of it.

SPorts bodies dont like attention coming towards them as they have to maintain there image.

This is why you will see the likes of Waseem Khan making statements in public, but a coach like Arthur wouldn't comment on such matters.
 
nope, sports teams have rules.

If you look at the NBA, NHL teams, there are certain rules in place. Curfew time is compulsory.

But a professional sports body doesnt go to the media and make press releases that our players were fined because they did such and such thing which you guys not know, but we are just telling you for the sake of it.

SPorts bodies dont like attention coming towards them as they have to maintain there image.

This is why you will see the likes of Waseem Khan making statements in public, but a coach like Arthur wouldn't comment on such matters.

You are making no sense. Most of the incidents that the public is aware of, get punished in public. Because that is what makes sense.

If Umar had gone out, someone from the management found out, fined him 20% and then held a press conference out of the blue to say Umar was at a concert two nights ago and we fined him, thanks for coming. Then perhaps you could have something of an argument.

Here the video was all over the media (his own fault). PCB dealt with it behind closed doors and laid the matter to rest by saying he has been punished and fined, he has accepted, lets move on.
 
Saj mentioned the curfew is 11 PM on tours.

Akon's performance STARTED at 2 AM.

Akmal wasn't cutting it close, instead he straight up ignored the curfew. Can't bring that type of unprofessionalism to the WC in England.
 
Where are all the people who were saying he should be put into the world cup side after 2 good psl knocks? Glad we selected him though and now he’s proven he’s not worthy of being selected for the national side. Now hopefully we can once and for all move on from these TTF’s and look for some new talent.
 
Saj mentioned the curfew is 11 PM on tours.

Akon's performance STARTED at 2 AM.

Akmal wasn't cutting it close, instead he straight up ignored the curfew. Can't bring that type of unprofessionalism to the WC in England.

But but but he’s a changed man, he looks 200 pounds slimmer and also seems to have worked on his attitude. :facepalm: This is a good slap on the face for those who thought 7 years of international cricket was not enough to judge a player.
 
He’s still a fool.

But hold on, this was a Day/Night series.

Shouldn’t the curfew therefore by definition be 3-4 hours later than the curfew for a Day match?

It’s only logical.

If for a Day Test players have to be back at the hotel by 11 pm, then automatically for a Day/Night ODI series that should be 3 am.

I don’t expect a Policeman or Nurse on Night Shift to go to bed at the same time as when on a Day Shift.

The only issue is time. No issue with a sportsman drinking moderately 36 hours before a match.

Still his own worst enemy.

That's not how it works.

There are practices, video sessions, physical therapy, and sometimes PR-related events reserved for those time slots.

This is why the 11 PM curfew is constant.
 
Poor guy, can't seem to get it together. Fame/early stardom went to his head and he never recovered.
 
As if people are defending Akmal here. He will never learn and nor will some of our fans.
 
To pull such a stunt before the WC when your team is facing a whitewash and you're personally making a comeback just isn't normal behaviour. I mean any adult with normal operating capacity knows you don't just saunter off to an Akon concert unannounced in that situation and put it on social media for all to see. In all seriousness he seems to have some mental health problems and should be assessed.

Just watch the selfie video of him at the concert. The guy actually seems out of his mind.
 
Hopefuuly this is the end of Akmal under Mickey at least. He got his chance and didn't perform well. Perhaps if he performed really well, this wouldn't be as much of a problem.
 
Enough is enough, he's had enough chances.

He left the team hotel to attend this concert without informing the team management and also broke team curfew rules.

How many times is this guy going to let himself and his country down.
That’s a bit dramatic, isn’t it?

Consider the following drink-fuelled incidents:

Andrew Flintoff’s Fredalo incident at the World Cup.

Joe Root and Dave Warner punching each other.

Jonny Bairstow and whoever it was.

Simon Katich grabbing Michael Clarke by the throat.

Ricky Ponting getting a black eye in a punch-up.

BEN STOKES on video battering two men outside a nightclub on matchday.

Their countries all pick them. Pakistan has “higher” standards.
 
Enough is enough, he's had enough chances.

He left the team hotel to attend this concert without informing the team management and also broke team curfew rules.

How many times is this guy going to let himself and his country down.
Here is the England football team’s first choice goalie Jordan Pickford, throwing punches in a street brawl, yesterday.

He was far drunker than Umar Akmal and it was 1 am in the morning.

I trust that Mickey Arthur will not be seeking more punitive consequences than Gareth Southgate.
 
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This should have little bearing on his selection. He does not deserve to go solely based on his performances. This has just cemented his exclusion.
 
That’s a bit dramatic, isn’t it?

Consider the following drink-fuelled incidents:

Andrew Flintoff’s Fredalo incident at the World Cup.

Joe Root and Dave Warner punching each other.

Jonny Bairstow and whoever it was.

Simon Katich grabbing Michael Clarke by the throat.

Ricky Ponting getting a black eye in a punch-up.

BEN STOKES on video battering two men outside a nightclub on matchday.

Their countries all pick them. Pakistan has “higher” standards.

The issue here, is that you have mentioned excellent players. Flintoff, Warner, Ponting, Stokes. They have been incredible performers, and they are let back in because they win you watches alone. When was the last time Akmal won you a match? He does not deserve chances because he refuses to learn.
 
That’s a bit dramatic, isn’t it?

Consider the following drink-fuelled incidents:

Andrew Flintoff’s Fredalo incident at the World Cup.

Joe Root and Dave Warner punching each other.

Jonny Bairstow and whoever it was.

Simon Katich grabbing Michael Clarke by the throat.

Ricky Ponting getting a black eye in a punch-up.

BEN STOKES on video battering two men outside a nightclub on matchday.

Their countries all pick them. Pakistan has “higher” standards.

Are all of the above players unfit like Umar Akmal?
Is Umar Akmal better then any of the players you mentioned?

Do those players have a history of going out to casinos during a World Cup and have they come out in public saying “the coach is destroying Pakistan” or something to this effect?

Junior’s cricketing brain is the size of a pea... these distributive individuals should never ever be selected..
 
Difficult characters are good for the team.
 
I think his defenders are forgetting about his extremely serious transgressions in the past. Do you remember how he misbehaved with Coach Waqar and also during an Aussie tour threatened to not play unless his brother was picked?

This behavior exhibits a serious pattern of problem with authority. He seems like a chap who goes out of his way to show he cannot be controlled and wants to assert he is beyond any standards his teammates are held accountable for. So what sort of message does it send others in the team?
 
I think there is lots of confusion and PCB cannot make their minds up with Umar Akmal. When you hear such new you go "Here we go again". It has happened so many times that it is not even funny anymore. I feel that he should not have been selected for this series and I don't think anyone was expecting him to be in the WC squad.
 
I am sure those players have outings as well to relax and get their mind of things.

Without informing the team management, in the middle of a tour and this late out? I highly doubt it and like some others have said, you need to put in the hard yards first before being able to throw your weight around. Umar Akmal is a nobody and this was his comeback series, I really wanted him in the team but after this stunt? He shouldn't be picked again unless he can prove that he has matured.
 
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