Pakistan vs India five match Test series in the UAE - Who would win?

[Leo23]

it is fair to say this this current indian teams looks tremendous in asian conditions and are certainly at a different level to sri lanka and bangladesh

however pakistan are at a different level to both teams and have all basis covered

so if india and pakistan were to play a 5 match test series in the uae who will prevail?

keep in mind pakistan will be without younis and misbah

the reason why it is a 5 match series is because it will also test the fitness of both teams to the max

i would go with india 2-1 because the inexperienced of pakistan's middle order will falter a couple of times against the persistent bowling of ashwin and jadeja but with misbah and younis i would have backed pakistan 2-1

anyhow it will be an extremely competitive and well fought series

a shame that the two best asian sides are not playing test cricket

 

[thehub]

India will beat Pakistan like they are doing to SL.

 

[Sam99]

If this would have been in seaming conditions Pakistan would have big edge but in UAE i guess India might win 3-2 or India can draw it but still Pakistan has chance of winning series if they handle Indian spinners well.

 

[The Googly]

50-50. Would be very close.
In seaming conditions, Pakistan would win easily i think.

 

[hitthestump]

50-50. Would be very close.
In seaming conditions, Pakistan would win easily i think.

You're joking.

If the ball moves an inch off the seam our batsmen look like school children.

 

[Justcrazy]

Pakistan will win a very very close series.

 

[thehub]

You're joking.

If the ball moves an inch off the seam our batsmen look like school children.

For him Pakistani batsmen are genius and play swing and seam well but indian batsmen are FTBs.

 

[Sam99]

For him Pakistani batsmen are genius and play swing and seam well but indian batsmen are FTBs.

Pakistani bowlers can be matched with Indian batsman but can Indian fast bowlers be matched with Pakistani Batsman? that's real question here

 

[The Googly]

You're joking.

If the ball moves an inch off the seam our batsmen look like school children.

True. But Indian batsman struggle in England also? Pakistan have a better bowling attack to take advantage of such bowling conditions.

Pakistan batting is poor i agree.
But have India performed in seaming conditions?

 

[PakLFC]

Pak will win 3-1.

 

[Enigmatic_786]

Pakistan, psychologically they have done well v India in the UAE. They enjoy playing here

 

[Sachin136]

Pakistan, psychologically they have done well v India in the UAE. They enjoy playing here

The last time India played in the UAE was in 2006, that too in an ODI.

 

[thehub]

No 6 team has no chance against no 1. They may win of the matches but most of them would be won by this strong indian team.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Whatever the conditions, I firmly believe that Pakistan would win the series. Although, it would be an extremely closely fought one as the conditions are favourable to both set of teams.

 

[subshakerz]

Sarfraz hasnt had any time to get familiar with his team or build a team to fill the gaps of Younis and Misbah. If he were to face India now, his inexperience and Pakistan's weaknesses would be brutally exposed against an in-form team. India would likely trump Pakistan easily in the first two games, before Pakistan start to give resistance. India likely wins 3-1.

I think Pakistan has the potential to be a better team than India in the future, primarily because of the potential of the pace attack and Yasir under a more attacking captain like Sarfraz, but it will take time.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

If it was played today, India would win 2-1 or 3-1 since we have a hole in middle order with Misbah and Younis retiring.

But if we find a few good middle order batsmen to replace them in the next few years I would back a 2-2 scoreline or even 2-1 to Pakistan.

 

[ExpressPacer]

As of now, India is on another level but then again, Pakistan only does well when they go as underdogs instead of favourites of even somewhat potential winners. Ya never know!

 

[Zeshan547]

No 6 team has no chance against no 1. They may win of the matches but most of them would be won by this strong indian team.

Same was said before CT, So when it comes to Pak "Never say Never" And they may not win series but they are't losing it either not even in india let alone UAE.

 

[cricketjoshila]

True. But Indian batsman struggle in England also? Pakistan have a better bowling attack to take advantage of such bowling conditions.

Pakistan batting is poor i agree.
But have India performed in seaming conditions?

Which of your seam bowlers are so much better than India?Stats please.

Also how many of your present batters have a avg above 45?

Thank you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Same was said before CT, So when it comes to Pak "Never say Never" And they may not win series but they are't losing it either not even in india let alone UAE.

This is not ODI.Its a 5 match test series.No comparision.

 

[R0H1T]

Same was said before CT, So when it comes to Pak "Never say Never" And they may not win series but they are't losing it either not even in india let alone UAE.

Pak haven;t won a test series in India in 30 years & no the 1999 one was an ATC match not a series win as some like to point out.

 

[saeed5646]

Which of your seam bowlers are so much better than India?Stats please.

Also how many of your present batters have a avg above 45?

Thank you.

yeah sure why not but should we wait till pakistan play back to back 13 test in uae then we can argue

also younis and misbah have retired and replacement have not made debut

 

[saeed5646]

Pak haven;t won a test series in India in 30 years & no the 1999 one was an ATC match not a series win as some like to point out.

pakistan and india have won 4 test series each against each other and both have won the last home test series

against each other so not much difference between the two

 

[R0H1T]

pakistan and india have won 4 test series each against each other and both have won the last home test series

against each other so not much difference between the two

Oh I'm sure there isn;t, I was just pointing out that in India we do have an edge, just like Pak in Pak, so a draw is more of an outlier.

 

[saeed5646]

Oh I'm sure there isn;t, I was just pointing out that in India we do have an edge, just like Pak in Pak, so a draw is more of an outlier.

pak have better record in india compare to other in test

 

[R0H1T]

read the title in op it say in uae not in india

You quoted me right, so look at the post I was responding to especially ~

Same was said before CT, So when it comes to Pak "Never say Never" And they may not win series but they are't losing it either not even in india let alone UAE.

 

[saeed5646]

You quoted me right, so look at the post I was responding to especially ~

yup sorry i miss that

 

[cricketjoshila]

yeah sure why not but should we wait till pakistan play back to back 13 test in uae then we can argue

also younis and misbah have retired and replacement have not made debut

So no 45plus avg batsman?

How many test matches did Pakistan play outside asia since 2012 till 2015?

And you believe seam bowlers do better in UAE than outside Asia?

 

[saeed5646]

So no 45plus avg batsman?

How many test matches did Pakistan play outside asia since 2012 till 2015?

And you believe seam bowlers do better in UAE than outside Asia?

look for your self there is one who is ranked 5th in the test batting ranking

don,t try to be smart with selective stats and it is 2017 not the 2015 also how many test pakistan played

outside the asia compare to india you will get your answer

i did not answer to bowling question i have answer you about batting

 

[cricketjoshila]

look for your self there is one who is ranked 5th in the test batting ranking

don,t try to be smart with selective stats and it is 2017 not the 2015 also how many test pakistan played

outside the asia compare to india you will get your answer

i did not answer to bowling question i have answer you about batting

Yes Azhar Ali is there.Thats fine.He is a fine test batsman. who else?

I am smart.India played away tests for almost 2 years.Pakistan played only in Asia from 2012 till 2015 except 2013 SA tour.So dont give me this "let Pakistan play 13 tests in UAE".

India played 2 tests each in NZ and SA. 5 tests in ENG and 4 tests AUS.Thats 13 tests outside India from 2013 DEC till 2015 JAN.I am not counting WI lest you talk about minnows.

How many has Pakistan played?

So now please tell who are these Pakistani seamers who are much better than Indians in Tests?

 

[saeed5646]

Yes Azhar Ali is there.Thats fine.He is a fine test batsman. who else?

I am smart.India played away tests for almost 2 years.Pakistan played only in Asia from 2012 till 2015 except 2013 SA tour.So dont give me this "let Pakistan play 13 tests in UAE".

India played 2 tests each in NZ and SA. 5 tests in ENG and 4 tests AUS.Thats 13 tests outside India from 2013 DEC till 2015 JAN.I am not counting WI lest you talk about minnows.

How many has Pakistan played?

So now please tell who are these Pakistani seamers who are much better than Indians in Tests?

there were plenty of them like misbah and younis who retired recently wait till players play 15 to 20 test then

there will be 2 to 3 players

i would repeat again it is 2017 and india have played tw0 series outside india in last two years apart

from 13 at home so yeah there will be huge improving in the stats of the batsmen from india

while pakistan in last two years only played west indies in 2016

for the fast bowling in test i can answer you that it is as bad it has india fast bowling in odis

 

[AlizeeFan]

Would be a dull draw with boards trying to maximise revenue by preparing super flat pitches to ensure match goes to 5 days.

 

[ethan hunt]

Pakistan has not lost a series in the UAE for a decade now . No reason why they should lose to poor travellers like India .
Its a pity younis didnt get to pad his stats against them . He averages around 100 against them iirc

 

[mak36]

Depends when the series is held. Pakistan have yet to play a test series since MisYou retired, which means they need to find a settled top order first. Once that happens (give it a couple of series) it would be close.

 

[hadi123]

It if it was to be now, I feel India would be favourites as Pakistan have a big hole in their middle order after the retirements of YK and Misbah. However, if their replacements get settled, it would be an extremely close series with the toss probably playing a major role

 

[KhalidRafi]

Pakistan

 

[ToeCrusher2]

India is the no. 1 side in the world, pakistan is the no. 6 side in the world, why do you even need to ask such a question, upsets happen in shorter formats, pakistan got no chance in a 5 match series in the longest and the toughest format, the gulf in quality between the two sides is too great.

 

[AlizeeFan]

Pakistan has not lost a series in the UAE for a decade now . No reason why they should lose to poor travellers like India .
Its a pity younis didnt get to pad his stats against them . He averages around 100 against them iirc ��

They didn't win against NZ and SA either.

 

[Jabo]

India.

Even with Misbah/YK.

I think the series would be pretty boring if it happened in the UAE.

Draw
Draw

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Pakistan.
India's captain will crumble under big match pressure.
Amir, Hasan and Abbas good enough as seam bowlers and Yasir as a spinner.

Pujara will be a threat though. Needs special plans against him otherwise he can score daddy hundreds.

 

[yasir]

Pak haven;t won a test series in India in 30 years & no the 1999 one was an ATC match not a series win as some like to point out.

How many test series we have played in last 30 years?? - Pakistan has won as many test matches in India as they have lost, maybe won more, I am generous here . Before 1999, there was a test series in 97/98, which was draw 1-1...

 

[yasir]

I don't know who is going to win test series between Pakistan and India in Asia, but one thing is sure, that would be most competitive series played in Asia. These two are the best test teams for Asian conditions by some distance, not playing against each other means, most test series in Asia are tier 2/3 or far below test level series, we can see effect of that in Asia, popularity of test Cricket is all time low in Asia. People have not seen a tough series in this continent in a decade.

 

[Slog]

India.

Its a joke to think that a Misbah-Younis less Pakistan can beat India

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Pakistan.
India's captain will crumble under big match pressure.
Amir, Hasan and Abbas good enough as seam bowlers and Yasir as a spinner.

Pujara will be a threat though. Needs special plans against him otherwise he can score daddy hundreds.

Also Pakistan has better big match players like Azhar, Sarfraz, Hasan and Amir.. Have seen them up their game in crucial matches.

Only weakness is the departure of Younis who was world class against spin and could score big hundreds.

 

[The Googly]

Pakistan's test batting is in transition after the retirement of Misbah and Younis so this will be a key factor in the next few tests. However, I strongly believe that India are being overated in the test arena away from home (yes they have demolished Sri Lanka but the Lankan wickets are similar to the Indian ones).

 

[CanadianG00se]

Pakistan's test batting is in transition after the retirement of Misbah and Younis so this will be a key factor in the next few tests. However, I strongly believe that India are being overated in the test arena away from home (yes they have demolished Sri Lanka but the Lankan wickets are similar to the Indian ones).

most fans only rating them on asian conditions as this team is yet to tour away from asia. But i dont see any team challenging this Indian team on asian conditions, not even Pakistan who are in transition.

 

[R0H1T]

How many test series we have played in last 30 years?? - Pakistan has won as many test matches in India as they have lost, maybe won more, I am generous here . Before 1999, there was a test series in 97/98, which was draw 1-1...

Not many but we've both won an equal number away i.e. one test series each. As far as the number of series won at home is concerned, I don;t recall that stat but I think it's also 1-1, goes to show that Ind v Pak has been a great contest despite the teams not being evenly matched at times.

 

[Sachin136]

Also Pakistan has better big match players like Azhar, Sarfraz, Hasan and Amir.. Have seen them up their game in crucial matches.

Only weakness is the departure of Younis who was world class against spin and could score big hundreds.

Hasan, Amir, and Sarfaraz haven't done much in tests.

 

[Usman]

Is this really even a question? Pakistan has shown supreme dominance in the UAE, beating so many top teams. Even without the likes of Younus and Misbah, we have so many options. We've beaten far better teams than India in recent times, both in and outside the UAE, in recent years.

 

[maxamax]

Draw for sure. India will put a mammoth total. Pakistan will tuk tuk its way out.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Also Pakistan has better big match players like Azhar, Sarfraz, Hasan and Amir.. Have seen them up their game in crucial matches.

Only weakness is the departure of Younis who was world class against spin and could score big hundreds.

Honestly speaking Sarfraz is highly overrated on this forum. Apart from few innings here and there, he has hardly ever done anything standout (in test) to be rated so highly. Its funny you rate Kohli so bad who averages almost 50in all forms of game, and rates Sarfraz who i doubt even average 40s. Anyways, imo its Pakistani bowling that will be lethal (Amir, Hasan, Abbas). Yasir will have average series as Indian plays leggies pretty well.

Series will be hard fought and result will go to the team that handles pressure well.

Pakistan team minus Younis and Misbah look weak but we all know Pakistan brings their A game everytime they face India. So, id not write them off.
3-2 to either team.

 

[Sachin136]

Is this really even a question? Pakistan has shown supreme dominance in the UAE, beating so many top teams. Even without the likes of Younus and Misbah, we have so many options. We've beaten far better teams than India in recent times, both in and outside the UAE, in recent years.

Pakistan hasn't been dominant at home. They barely won a home series against WI.

Pakistan has not won a series against any team better than India (if there are any) outside the UAE.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Its funny you rate Kohli so bad who averages almost 50in all forms of game, and rates Sarfraz who i doubt even average 40s.

If you know me so well then you should also know why I rate Sarfraz. Not because he avgs 40.
Also Kohli the odi batsman is already an Odi ATG for me but its Kohli the test batsman who I think is overrated. Hasnt done anything special in his ~60 matches till now to be put in top 7-8 batsmen. Even Sarfraz with '40s avg' has played better match changing innings than him in this format.

 

[thehub]

Is this really even a question? Pakistan has shown supreme dominance in the UAE, beating so many top teams. Even without the likes of Younus and Misbah, we have so many options. We've beaten far better teams than India in recent times, both in and outside the UAE, in recent years.

wake up dude. must be dreaming that you have Wasim, Waqar, etc., still playing for you. which is the better team that your team beat that is better than India in asian condition? England? which was whitewashed by India recently. SA? which was whitewashed by india recently. or Aus

 

[backfootpunch]

India 4 - 1

Unfortunately Pakistan without Younis would have no hope against the glistening variety of spin India has to offer

 

[Sachin136]

If you know me so well then you should also know why I rate Sarfraz. Not because he avgs 40.
Also Kohli the odi batsman is already an Odi ATG for me but its Kohli the test batsman who I think is overrated. Hasnt done anything special in his ~60 matches till now to be put in top 7-8 batsmen. Even Sarfraz with '40s avg' has played better match changing innings than him in this format.

Mind listing some?

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Mind listing some?

Sarfraz's dominant 80 ball 100 against Aus in 1st test which set the tone for series whitewash.
Sarfraz's quick 48 off 46 chasing 300 in 57 overs on 5th day last 2 sessions against SL to help drawing a series.

Better impact and match changing innings than Kohli has played in his ~60 matches.

 

[Sachin136]

Sarfraz's dominant 80 ball 100 against Aus in 1st test which set the tone for series whitewash.
Sarfraz's quick 48 off 46 chasing 300 in 57 overs on 5th day last 2 sessions against SL to help drawing a series.

Better impact and match changing innings than Kohli has played in his ~60 matches.

That hundred was from a position where Pakistan was around 300/5. If you think that was more impactful than any of Kohli's innings, then you have not followed his career at all.

 

[Hasan123]

I think India would win the series. There batting line up is much stronger than ours so they would be able to score runs on those rubbish UAE pitches which would cause our batting line upto collapse under scoreboard pressure. Ashwin and Jadeja would be a handful later on in the games. Also don't forget our fielding under pressure isn't the best, Indian team is athletic in the field and hold onto there catches. I think we could win a game or two, but over a series of 5 games India would win.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Pakistan will win 5-0 anywhere in the world, leave alone UAE.

 

[thehub]

Pakistan will win 5-0 anywhere in the world, leave alone UAE.

you are talking like Bangla fans here. reality is our team is number one with 125 points.. your team is no 6 with 95 points.

lol at anywhere..

 

[ads101]

Think India would win mainly because we just lost Misbah and YK. Before they retired, it's be 50:50 to who would win.

Would be one of the most hyped series if it did happen, would reignite test interest. Feel like the interest in tests is at an all time low atm, there haven't been many close fought series of late.

 

[Buffet]

With Misbah and YK, this would have been a decent question.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

That hundred was from a position where Pakistan was around 300/5. If you think that was more impactful than any of Kohli's innings, then you have not followed his career at all.

You can have your opinion but just to tell you I have followed Kohli's test career may be more than majority Indians. Pujara is one of my favorite player and I follow highlights / scorecards / reports to see how he performed and tune in to watch him play whenever I have time and as Kohli mostly bats with him I know how well Kohli did.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Kher coming to the thread, I cant understand why so many people writing without Misbah Pakistan cant win?
We have better replacement as a batsman and as a captain than Misbah imo.
People here dont know about Haris, Babar and Usman much.

As there is no series happening now, comparing player to player in 2 years time:

Haris , Babar and Usman = Pujara , Kohli, Rahane
Azhar and Sami/Sharjeel = Vijay/Dhawan and Rahul
Sarfraz > Saha
Bowling attacks = other
Indian late order batting > Pakistan's

So both teams are almost equal. And once again I would say Pakistan will win as we have better big match players.


Mark this post!! See ya in 2 years

 

[thehub]

Kher coming to the thread, I cant understand why so many people writing without Misbah Pakistan cant win?
We have better replacement as a batsman and as a captain than Misbah imo.
People here dont know about Haris, Babar and Usman much.

As there is no series happening now, comparing player to player in 2 years time:

Haris , Babar and Usman = Pujara , Kohli, Rahane
Azhar and Sami/Sharjeel = Vijay/Dhawan and Rahul
Sarfraz > Saha
Bowling attacks = other
Indian late order batting > Pakistan's

So both teams are almost equal. And once again I would say Pakistan will win as we have better big match players.


Mark this post!! See ya in 2 years

I stopped reading after that bolded line. LOL. your gut feeling is in 2 yrs, these three folks who have done nothing in Test will be as good as Pujara, Kohli and Rahane who have already established themselves as some of the top test players. nice comic relief.

 

[Buffet]

I cant understand why so many people writing without Misbah Pakistan cant win?

May be due to how many series Pakistan failed to win in UAE with YK and Misbah both being present? Now if you take those two off then it will take time for others to mature.

I recon, the current Indian batting line up is probably the best in world and a large factor is that they have been playing together for a while and off course quality is there. Matching that is surely possible for Pakistan, but it is still an unknown and not an easy task.

 

[Sachin136]

Kher coming to the thread, I cant understand why so many people writing without Misbah Pakistan cant win?
We have better replacement as a batsman and as a captain than Misbah imo.
People here dont know about Haris, Babar and Usman much.

As there is no series happening now, comparing player to player in 2 years time:

Haris , Babar and Usman = Pujara , Kohli, Rahane
Azhar and Sami/Sharjeel = Vijay/Dhawan and Rahul
Sarfraz > Saha
Bowling attacks = other
Indian late order batting > Pakistan's

So both teams are almost equal. And once again I would say Pakistan will win as we have better big match players.


Mark this post!! See ya in 2 years

Haris might not even get back into the team.

 

[Buffet]

To put it in context,

India has 4 batsmen in the top 11 rank. That's as good as it can get for any team. Great Aus team did have similar or more in the top 10-12 rank. SA had 4 batsmen in top 10-15 for a brief period with Kallis, Smith, Amla and AB. So it's not an easy task to match it.

Indian bowling is still up in air as far as I am concerned in conditions like SA, Aus or Eng. Next series in these venues will tell us more.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

I stopped reading after that bolded line. LOL. your gut feeling is in 2 yrs, these three folks who have done nothing in Test will be as good as Pujara, Kohli and Rahane who have already established themselves as some of the top test players. nice comic relief.

I have followed Usman, Haris and Babar on the kind of pitches they played and against the domestic bowling attacks they scored. Just a matter of time before they make their names in test cricket. These 3 are few of the best batsmen (Haris and Usman especially for longer format) to come out of Pakistan in last 20 years.
Just wait and watch

Btw it was a nice comic relief too when I put my signature that Sarfraz will lead us to glory when we were no 8 and struggling to qualify for world cup. So better watch the space

 

[CanadianG00se]

Sarfraz's dominant 80 ball 100 against Aus in 1st test which set the tone for series whitewash.
Sarfraz's quick 48 off 46 chasing 300 in 57 overs on 5th day last 2 sessions against SL to help drawing a series.

Better impact and match changing innings than Kohli has played in his ~60 matches.

Again u proved my point that Sarfraz had played few good innings here and there. I dont think he is as good as many people think. He is pretty decent bat but comparing or even making him look better than Kohli is just your opinion (i respect ur opinion) and not a fact. Let him score one double century let alone 3+ in one season.

Apart from A Ali, no one in current Pakistan team is even remotely closed to Kohli the test batsman.

 

[CadPakFan]

They didn't win against NZ and SA either.

But they didn't lose to NZ and SA either

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Again u proved my point that Sarfraz had played few good innings here and there. I dont think he is as good as many people think. He is pretty decent bat but comparing or even making him look better than Kohli is just your opinion (i respect ur opinion) and not a fact. Let him score one double century let alone 3+ in one season.

Apart from A Ali, no one in current Pakistan team is even remotely closed to Kohli the test batsman.

He is not better than Kohli and I never said that. I answered a poster who asked me to give example of some of Sarfraz's innings which had more impact than the ones Kohli played.

 

[CanadianG00se]

He is not better than Kohli and I never said that. I answered a poster who asked me to give example of some of Sarfraz's innings which had more impact than the ones Kohli played.

He is far too inconsistent to be considered impactful. On his day, yes he can but those days are far too rare.

 

[khurram39]

Pakistan will surely do that 5-0. No doubt. That's why India is not playing.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

India and it's not even gonna be close .

 

[htariq25]

Pakistan to win every match by an innings and over 100 runs

 

[ManFan]

What makes people think that Indian spinners who just got clubbed in the last meeting between the two teams would beat a Pakistani team whose bread and butter for the past 8 years has been feasting on spinners on dry UAE tracks?

 

[thehub]

What makes people think that Indian spinners who just got clubbed in the last meeting between the two teams would beat a Pakistani team whose bread and butter for the past 8 years has been feasting on spinners on dry UAE tracks?

Lol at bringing in odi game played on flat track. There is a reason why test is called a superior format. Imho you need to learn more about cricket. Sorry if I am being rude here.

 

[thehub]

Pakistan to win every match by an innings and over 100 runs ������������

Then you woke up.