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Pakistan vs West Indies : Was this tour worthwhile?

Was this tour worthwhile?


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Team reaching only hours before the tournament. Bashing of a C team. Was this tour really worth it in terms of getting cricket back to Pakistan and to entertain the crowds or was it just to placate some people?
 
IMHO win win for PCB officials and WiCB officials. Sad to see players slogging with no proper sleep for peanuts. One of the bowlers almost fell asleep while bowling.:(
 
Would have been way more interesting if they had patched matters with the BCB and invited Bangladesh instead.
 
Baby steps.

Also a great series to give youngsters confidence. 90% of cricket is confidence imo.
 
Would have been way more interesting if they had patched matters with the BCB and invited Bangladesh instead.

BCB are high flying now, patching can only work to have them in UAE. They are not coming to Pakistan, they made it pretty clear.
 
BCB are high flying now, patching can only work to have them in UAE. They are not coming to Pakistan, they made it pretty clear.

We don't need the minnows from the Land of Shakib. Aim for teams that are worth it
 
I think it was a good idea. You have to build the momentum, with every successful PSL and WI, Zim showing up it would get much easier to convince teams to visit. We will need atleast next 5 years with these baby steps to have major teams visiting.
 
Personally I would have organised things differently but I would take something over nothing at all!
 
Yes it is worth it. Imagine it like a CV.

When you are inviting South Africa for example, you can tell them the World XI, West Indies, Sri Lanka, and Zimbabwe, all have successfully come to Pakistan, alongside the PSL finals of course.
 
It would be worth it if Narine, Bravo, Gayle, Evin Lewis, Lendl Simmons, Russel and Pollard where in the team.
 
Not ideal entertainment wise but an important step for bringing cricket to Pakistan.
 
We don't need the minnows from the Land of Shakib. Aim for teams that are worth it

Agreed, they would have given us better competition though, but the impact on other major teams or players to visit us won't have been much.
 
BCB are high flying now, patching can only work to have them in UAE. They are not coming to Pakistan, they made it pretty clear.

There's no point playing them in the UAE. If we grovelled and offered the BCB enough money, they would have come. I am sure the Bangladeshi players would have loved to come play in Pakistan.
 
Good trial run for big matches. Karachi seems to have passed the test as well. 2 venues passing > 1 safe venue.

Baby steps.
 
Worth it because it allows our guys to finally play in front of home crowd and get to showcase their skills. It is not our fault that WI sent a weakened squad.
 
There's no point playing them in the UAE. If we grovelled and offered the BCB enough money, they would have come. I am sure the Bangladeshi players would have loved to come play in Pakistan.

I dont think it is to do with players with earlier cancelations as well. It is BCB playing its politics. So, again nope they wont visit us. Similar is the case with Afghan players, if given a chance they will be happy to visit Pak, but politics is the reason for no bilateral with them.
 
I dont think it is to do with players with earlier cancelations as well. It is BCB playing its politics. So, again nope they wont visit us. Similar is the case with Afghan players, if given a chance they will be happy to visit Pak, but politics is the reason for no bilateral with them.

I am not disputing that, but our board has to be more diplomatic here and needs to mend relations by finding middle ground. We don't have enough friends as it is. Realistically, the likes of Australia, England, New Zealand and India are not touring Pakistan in the next 5 years. Right now, our priority needs to be convincing CSA to send a team in the next 12 months.
 
There is absolutely no reason now imo why the top teams should have reservations about coming to play T20s in Pakistan.

Every series has gone smoothly and will continue to do so inshallah.
 
There is absolutely no reason now imo why the top teams should have reservations about coming to play T20s in Pakistan.

Every series has gone smoothly and will continue to do so inshallah.

Aus, Eng and NZ aren’t coming anytime soon as all these countries have been involved in Afghanistan and hence would be a target based on their own analysis

South Africa is why we should aim for. If it was good enough for Faf, Morkel, JP and Miller it should be good enough for the rest. Even if the likes of AB don’t come it would still be high quality
 
Nope. Not for West Indies their team is in disarray, not for Pakistan as West Indies came but none of their big players did. It's not going to send the message it should, and at most we'll have associates and sri lanka touring. SA, NZ, AUS and ENG won't want to tour, which leaves India and I don't think they are keen to coming to Pakistan either.

So the teams you could ask are Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, West Indies and associate teams, and they may consider coming, other than that it's going to take years for any of the top international teams to come and that too with their top star players.
 
I am not disputing that, but our board has to be more diplomatic here and needs to mend relations by finding middle ground. We don't have enough friends as it is. Realistically, the likes of Australia, England, New Zealand and India are not touring Pakistan in the next 5 years. Right now, our priority needs to be convincing CSA to send a team in the next 12 months.

Bro, what can we do ? Should we beg them as we have been doing with India and getting disgraced by Shehryar Khan. They told us last time that they are only going to play if we chose UAE. I dont think we want that, so its better to move on.


We have already hosted Zim, SLC, and now WI. We should keep on rotating these, should try to get Irish players next. Hopefully, with these baby steps in next few years we might be able to convince some other major teams to visit us. BD and Afg have chosen to be in Indian camp and there not much we can do about it.
 
It is a worthwhile tour.Small steps.

We should invite SA to send their team before the next WC
 
I like watching Pakistan play as much cricket as possible.

Bashing this C team is pure joy.
 
Big step for me as a Karachiite... No one could imagine this actuallly happening in Karachi a while back. Credit to Najam Sethi for this
 
doesn't matter if this an X team or Z team of west indies a few years back no one was willing to even come to Pakistan I will call it a success form PCB. I think if West Indies A was not going to make any difference 3-0 was on west indies is medicore and everyone need to accept it.
 
Nope. Not for West Indies their team is in disarray, not for Pakistan as West Indies came but none of their big players did. It's not going to send the message it should, and at most we'll have associates and sri lanka touring. SA, NZ, AUS and ENG won't want to tour, which leaves India and I don't think they are keen to coming to Pakistan either.

So the teams you could ask are Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, West Indies and associate teams, and they may consider coming, other than that it's going to take years for any of the top international teams to come and that too with their top star players.

Well World XI came with some of the biggest stars of world cricket visiting us. So, I think it is closer than you think.
 
It's important as it shows we can host games without any incident. Whilst is nice to win games , I wouldn't get too excited and read too much into the results of these games as West Indies selected a poor squad.

Happy with the team performances in the series so far.
 
This WI team is embarrassingly bad. Bangladesh would have been a better option.

Without a doubt. Bangladesh gave Sri Lanka and India good competition, and would have fared better v Pakistan in these conditions.
 
worth it in the long run, still a long way too go untill we see sides toruing regularly but the correct steps are being made.
 
Indeed worthy, if WIN leaves Karachi safe & sound after tomorrow's game. I believe, purpose of the Series was totally different and we have seen the impact in stadium - it has been a mega success in that regard.

My only issue is that, people spending hours together in PP are making too much of PAK's performance here, which I would have expected from the taxi driver of Karachi or the Professor of LUMS - neither of whom spends more than few minutes on cricket beyond watching the random game - BUT not from PP, not from people discussing the finer things of cricket for hours, days together. WIN's available best team somehow edged past SCT and comfortably outclassed by AFGs recently in ODI WC qualifier - and this team is a skeleton of that WI, still this hyperbola only exposes the desperation.

About 11 years back, we went to WIN and played 2 Tests against a similar WIN team - led by Floyd Reifer. We did win both Tests and since then not a single BD poster ever mentioned that Test win (in fact Series win) here in PP - that Test against Poms and at Colombo is celebrated as the first major Test and away Test win for us, because we do realize which WIN played in those two Tests. Sadly, PP couldn't raise above that status co, otherwise everything was perfect - I didn't watch much, but I was active on CI for almost every ball.
 
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Team reaching only hours before the tournament. Bashing of a C team. Was this tour really worth it in terms of getting cricket back to Pakistan and to entertain the crowds or was it just to placate some people?

Pak bashed them back to back with stronger sides, while Pak itself was weaker, did you moan about that?
 
Definitely worthwhile

Baby step to bring back cricket in Pakistan

Giving our youngsters confidence

Boosting our stats :P

Pakistan is definitely in a win win situation

Should invite Zimbabwe again this year and West Indies again
 
It was worthwhile.If PCB doesn't hold PSL matches in Pakistan or doesn't try to bring international teams to Pakistan then international cricket may not return to Pakistan for decades.
 
In terms of quality cricket No!
In terms of bring cricket back in Pakistan , Yes!
 
I dont think it is to do with players with earlier cancelations as well. It is BCB playing its politics. So, again nope they wont visit us. Similar is the case with Afghan players, if given a chance they will be happy to visit Pak, but politics is the reason for no bilateral with them.

Here,the pcb were the culprit of arm twisting and doing politics.

And BCB has a court rule to follow ,not to send any player (under bd team platform) to pakistan. What they can do?
 
The purpose wasn't great quality matches... It was having the world t20 champions playing in Pak
 
Here,the pcb were the culprit of arm twisting and doing politics.

And BCB has a court rule to follow ,not to send any player (under bd team platform) to Pakistan. What they can do?
And why is it so ? I use to like Bangladesh Team when they achieved the ODI status and were one of favorites but somehow they have become unlikable over time, can't explain why.
Habib ul Bashar ,Amjad Khan, Muhammad rafiq were very likeable guys and I dont see personalities like them anymore in Bangladesh cricket.
 
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Indeed worthy, if WIN leaves Karachi safe & sound after tomorrow's game. I believe, purpose of the Series was totally different and we have seen the impact in stadium - it has been a mega success in that regard.

My only issue is that, people spending hours together in PP are making too much of PAK's performance here, which I would have expected from the taxi driver of Karachi or the Professor of LUMS - neither of whom spends more than few minutes on cricket beyond watching the random game - BUT not from PP, not from people discussing the finer things of cricket for hours, days together. WIN's available best team somehow edged past SCT and comfortably outclassed by AFGs recently in ODI WC qualifier - and this team is a skeleton of that WI, still this hyperbola only exposes the desperation.

About 11 years back, we went to WIN and played 2 Tests against a similar WIN team - led by Floyd Reifer. We did win both Tests and since then not a single BD poster ever mentioned that Test win (in fact Series win) here in PP - that Test against Poms and at Colombo is celebrated as the first major Test and away Test win for us, because we do realize which WIN played in those two Tests. Sadly, PP couldn't raise above that status co, otherwise everything was perfect - I didn't watch much, but I was active on CI for almost every ball.

In Sport you can only beat the opposition in front of you. Such situations are judged not by winning but in the manner of victory. If you dominate and win in style, you still deserve praise even against average opposition.
 
Worth it since this tournament represents the return of cricket to Pakistan. Yes other teams might not follow WI and visit us but its better to have one visiting team than none. We are also winning by large margins so thats good too. These victories provide a good start to the career of youngsters and helps build their confidence.
 
Of course it’s worth it.

Another international team has come back to Pakistan along with a few others.

This is just another small but important step. It will take a few years yet but this is the way to go.
 
It’s so important for these Pak players do get to play at home as well.

They can’t keep touring away indefinitely. That’s such a big disadvantage compared to other teams.
 
In Sport you can only beat the opposition in front of you. Such situations are judged not by winning but in the manner of victory. If you dominate and win in style, you still deserve praise even against average opposition.

I know, would people prefer it if they slit their wrists instead in the post match analysis? the purpose of the series is a lot bigger and it also gives us the chance to sort out our best XI and with some newbies on the block there is bound to be some excitement. I don't think anyone has suggested we are sure to be favourites for World T20 or something, like you say you beat what is put before you and the performance is judged on the manner of style and against such opposition it is good to see ruthlessness. Pakistan in the past is a team which has a tendency to lose to even weaker teams and nothing is guaranteed.
 
Any international team playing in Pakistan should be helpful for normalizing cricket in Pakistan.
 
It's worth it in the bigger picture which is bringing back cricket to Pakistan.
 
Small but crucial step. I want our Tigers to tour.

I think BCB was hesitant due to security when PCB invited last time but after seeing a successful PSL Pakistan leg and this tour I am sure they will be lot more felexible.
 
You can't just keep justifying everything by saying "Oh but we got international cricket in Pakistan" when the quality of that cricket is so bad. It might be an idea to invite Afghanistan or Zimbabwe or Ireland - they might at least put up some fight.
 
The positive about it is, the focus has been on cricket. Whether it's the good cricket of Pakistan or poor of the West Indies, the focus has been on cricket and not on being scared that something is going to happen in Karachi. So I think from perspective the tour has been worthwhile, and I'm looking forward to more international games in Pakistan, hopefully with some stronger teams and some star players coming.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">West Indies were comfortably beaten in this series, but they should be appreciated for coming to Pakistan as hopefully they have played an important part in the return of international cricket to Pakistan <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvWI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakvWI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/981227761326051328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Need to get bangladesh to tour Pakistan now. Cricket will also be entertaining.
 
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