Pakistan - World Cup 2019 bowling crisis (suggest solutions)

[ritzy_123]

Pakistan bowling & fielding dilemma specially for the World Cup. Any solutions?

At the moment right now

Faheem Junaid & Imad looks toothless

Shaheen seems unfit or don't know his pace is down.

Hafeez seems pretty decent

Hasan Ali okayish

We don't know how Amir & Shadab will bowl?

Muhammad Hasnain looked better today.

What should be our bowling line up and what should be done with the squad before 23rd May the deadline?

And how to fix the fielding again in such a short time?

 

[babajee]

Need to get rid of Junaid and Faheem.

 

[shaz72]

At the moment right now

Faheem Junaid & Imad looks toothless

Shaheen seems unfit or don't know his pace is down.

Hafeez seems pretty decent

Hasan Ali okayish

We don't know how Amir & Shadab will bowl?

Muhammad Hasnain looked better today.

What should be our bowling line up and what should be done with the squad before 23rd May the deadline?

And how to fix the fielding again in such a short time?

Best solution to withdraw from world cup to stop humiliation. Matter of the fact is we are not good enough to compete at international level.

 

[Savak]

Imad Wasim will be slaughtered in the WC. And for god sakes open with pacers, don't waste the new ball.

 

[shahidbhai]

At the moment right now

Faheem Junaid & Imad looks toothless

Shaheen seems unfit or don't know his pace is down.

Hafeez seems pretty decent

Hasan Ali okayish

We don't know how Amir & Shadab will bowl?

Muhammad Hasnain looked better today.

What should be our bowling line up and what should be done with the squad before 23rd May the deadline?

And how to fix the fielding again in such a short time?

Junaid out...Wahab Riaz in... Junaid offers no pace, no swing, no variation...just length bowling that gets clobbered... Wahab can at least reverse, has pace, has big world cup experience and can even bat a bit....also a better athlete in the field.

Lets start with making changes to the obvious problems in our team while we still can...which is the bowling...

regarding the fielding...that is a slow process that requires time...which should have been put in years and months prior to the world cup...if its not up to par right now...nothing you will do in the next couple of weeks will make any difference...

 

[Brainy sturdy]

The only wicket taking option available with Pakistan right now is Shinwari though he also leaks runs every now and then. But looking at the toothless attack I think Shinwari should be called back so that someone could at least take a wicket or a two. Amir would just bring economy and his wicket coloumn would always be empty ,as he simply ain't interested anymore in 50 over format. This is the weakest bowlimg attack of the tournament. No wicket takers.

 

[zulfiqar]

I'm quietly confident in our team. If we can keep batting well we have a chance! Though it looks like ENG will chase this 4th ODI total down pretty easily as well, all it really takes to dismantle such chases is a burst of wickets which we are capable of. It's a game of chance - but the thing you cannot overlook is batting power: we need to put runs on the board when chance favors us and we bat first.

 

[zulfiqar]

That being said - dropping catches is just awful. I made my quote like.. 4 yrs back? maybe even more? Can't believe how slowly we improve in fielding when compares to rest of the teams.

 

[hadi123]

Drop Faheem and JK. I like JK but I'm hearing he's bowled absolute garbage today.

 

[ritzy_123]

Drop Faheem and JK. I like JK but I'm hearing he's bowled absolute garbage today.

Yes you heard it right he bowled absolute rubbish today

 

[msb314]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] was right - Junaid is done and dusted and single handed lost this game.

Bring Shadab in for Junaid and make sure he stays there...

Yes Shadab is not great but cannot do worse than Junaid...

 

[Syed1]

Wrong... Haris Rauf needs to replace Junaid. Shadab is already in the WC squad. However, this kind of out of the box thinking not Inzi the revolutionary's cup of tea.

 

[adil79]

Junaid Khan has gotten old now. Surprise we havent found a replacement. Rumman would do nice for containing i think

 

[Farhan93]

And who's going to replace Amir,Hasnain and Faheem? they all are terrible...Even Shaheen looked out of sorts in the previous matches.....Keep Junaid and induct Rumman And Sadaf Hussain in place of Hasnain and Faheem

 

[mon858]

sorry, but you cannot play in england with 2 pacers only. so you have to bring him in in place of another all rounder or batsman (imad, shoaib, hafeez).

 

[Farhan93]

or Kashif bhatti should be selected ahead of Faheem...Hopefully Imam is out of the worldcup Kashif can come in his place too

 

[adil79]

Haris Rauf would fare better than B class medium pacers. He bowls in 90s

 

[adil_909]

i don't care who they get, just please send junaid khan back to pakistan for good!

 

[msb314]

Wrong... Haris Rauf needs to replace Junaid. Shadab is already in the WC squad. However, this kind of out of the box thinking not Inzi the revolutionary's cup of tea.

I meant in the playing XI

Shadab for junaid and Amir for Hasnain

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

Haris Rauf should be in WC squad instead of Junaid Khan

 

[ARK Rafay]

Bring Haris Rauf IN

 

[adil79]

And if we want Amir for containing, Rumman Raees would be a lot better i think

 

[sahiwal_punjabi_786]

Pakistan - World Cup bowling crisis

Our batting is in good shape for once but our bowling (and fielding) is poor, England smashes us around, especially our pacers. With the 23 may deadline approaching we really need to think about what bowlers we want to play.

7+ bowling options is a must (learnt this from the top teams, they always have plenty of bowlers and someone always pulls a wicket).

M Amir is out of form.
Junaid Khan gets hit a lot.
Shaheen out of form
Hasnain not experienced enough
Ashraf our of form
Hasan Ali has forgotten his yorkers

What will PCB do! Is it time to recall Shinwari, Riaz and Haris Rauf?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Bring Haris Rauf IN

We can't have 3 newbies.

 

[Khan12]

or Kashif bhatti should be selected ahead of Faheem...Hopefully Imam is out of the worldcup Kashif can come in his place too

Lol. Are you ok? Kashif bhatti as a darter like Imad. At least Imad is better bat and fielder then him which says a lot about your hero.

 

[uak92]

Its not too late for a Shinwari swap. His ODI stats are excellent.

 

[ElRaja]

the price of age fudging, if junaid is younger than me, than im a Franciscan nun!!

 

[Syed1]

My bowling attack will be


Amir
Hasan
Hasnain
Rauf
Hafeez
Malik/Haris



None of that darting by Imad, plus Inzi the revolutionary hasn't even picked a proper spinner so better to go with four man pace attack rather than non-spinning spinners.

 

[adil79]

All our bowlers out of form, why do you think is that? Bowlers could do better if someone made them a better plan. It's like they have written in their mind to bowl length no matter what, and not go for wickets and only contain the opposition.

Wickets with new ball can come. But we don't pick them.
Wickets with old ball can come. But Shadab couldn't pick them after South Africa series.
Wickets at the death with reverse swing. But we couldn't pick them by not bowling yorkers.

Seems like lack of plan rather than form. Hassan Ali was doing good in PSL. What changed for him to go back to poor again, like he was before PSL? Are they being advised to contain rather than pick wickets?

 

[Savak]

The whole thing is a mess. We are missing decent spinners, the attack is to one dimensional. Shinwari has the ability to pick up the 2-3-4 wickets in 2 overs but more often than not he goes for plenty.

 

[Suleiman]

Junaid is utter garbage. Anybody who was in denial before now is for sure against his inclusion. Has been the case for about 6 years now, move on fgs.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Haris should replace him. Shaheen has to play next game. Hasnain will improve with every game.

We'll fare much better against other teams. England is just a batting powerhouse on flat tracks. Even Aussie and Saffers have difficulty bowling to them.

 

[PakLFC]

Send an SOS to Shinwari and throw out Shaheen. We can't do any worse then that here with our backs against the wall. These guys have taken wickets in the past just that at the moment either they are out of form or injured. We need Amir and Shadab as well.

 

[moghul]

Junaid has no pace, he is the worst fielder and physically looks so fragile, is he really best Pakistan has to offer in fast bowling, there got to be someone better.

 

[superman]

There is a quicker option wither sack Azhar Mahmood or tell the bowlers don't listen to him

 

[warcry]

hafeez and malik bowling really showed how poor imad has been.
shadab will be a massive improvement, but not enough to be competitive.
imho Imad and junaid have to be removed from the squad. neither are good enough. I would replace them with Shinwari and a proper spinner who can spin the ball. (not bilal asif and NOT Nawaz)

And I do not know what has happened to yorker bowling. It is as if they have forgotten how to bowl yorkers.

 

[jonny darko]

I love Junaid khan to bits, He tore the vaunted indian batting line-up to shreds in the 'aane do' series. But he is a spent force now & a liability in the field. More & more bowlers are conditioned to bowl only 4 overs, more such debacles will follow.

Shadab, Junaid out - M. Amir, Usman Shinwari in.

 

[shaykh]

While I agree in general that our bowlers haven't bowled as well as they can...the conditions frankly are awful for bowling...

Shaheen did fine in just his last series in South Africa...decent series where bat and ball were on an equal footing...

All quick bowlers are going to get tonked in this World Cup...what we really do need is for Shadab to turn up...our fielders to do better...and for opposition batsmen to make mistakes...

All the X would do better than Y arguments are just grass is greener nonsense except of course in reference to Yasir who we can do much better than...

 

[Mean&Green]

“He Only Has Angle No Swing”

This is what Jason Roy said to James Vince at the start of their innings when Junaid was bowling. Even they have figured out he’s so useless all he’s gonna do is angle it in. His angle is so bad that it’ll never angle in another 10 years but only more down the leg side and be helped on its way for six or four. He’s bowling short on these pattas in the penultimate over like what does he expect with this trundling pace that stokes will just let it go. He needs to go ASAP and for a very long time if not forever no brain at all just chucking down the leg side short Pies for the batsmen to have a day out .

 

[jonny darko]

Its not too late for a Shinwari swap. His ODI stats are excellent.

injury Shadab, slogger Asif ali, spent Junaid out - workhorse Usman Shinwari, swing-king M. Amir in.

 

[Syed1]

Instead of Rauf..... Inzi might send Shinwari who has a fair share of match loosing performances on his resume or worse keep Junaid in the side.



Is Inzi the worst selector we have ever had?

 

[ritzy_123]

Abdul Razzaq Emerged onto the scene at 1999 WC. Is it time for Haris Rauf too?

What are your opinion guys?

I think Faheem Junaid and Unfortunately Abid needs to make way for Amir Asif and Haris Rauf.

 

[ethan hunt]

1- ) Haris Rauf - He is everything we need .
2-) Umar Khan or Zafar Gohar or some other mystery spinner , i don't know.

England is no country for trundlers

 

[shaykh]

injury Shadab, slogger Asif ali, spent Junaid out - workhorse Usman Shinwari, swing-king M. Amir in.

Ball's not gonna swing at this WC...

Slogger Asif will do just fine on these pitches...as he has done this series...

We desperately need a leggy whose name is not Yasir...Shadab will get tonked but he will get wickets...

Shinwari for Junaid is a good call though....Junaid is a spent force...

 

[Ronaldo7]

Hasnain is not ready. Bring in a mystery spinner. Kick out Junaid and maybe bring in shinwari.

 

[Syed1]

From this squad:


Fahim Out ----> Amir In
Yasir Out ----> Shadab In
Junaid Out ----> Rauf In
Abid Out ----> Asif In

 

[shaykh]

1- ) Haris Rauf - He is everything we need .
2-) Umar Khan or Zafar Gohar or some other mystery spinner , i don't know.

England is no country for trundlers

Everyone not in the team is everyone we need ...

Shaheen and Hasnain have both gone for over 8 an over...what makes you so sure Rauf would do so much better...

Umer Khan did great in the T20s not so well in the one day matches that followed...and Zafar Gohar someone so mysterious that he can't even get into any domestic sides...

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Hasnain is not ready. Bring in a mystery spinner. Kick out Junaid and maybe bring in shinwari.

Agree hasnain still has lot to learn. Cant trust him in world cup. Goes for to many

 

[ethan hunt]

Everyone not in the team is everyone we need ...

Shaheen and Hasnain have both gone for over 8 an over...what makes you so sure Rauf would do so much better...

Umer Khan did great in the T20s not so well in the one day matches that followed...and Zafar Gohar someone so mysterious that he can't even get into any domestic sides...

Because i can tell he is good and no its not the PSL i am going by.
He has improved a lot in the last few months and should be in the LOI side .
Much better than the ones in the 11

 

[abughio]

No not actually.. it is not very hard to understand that.. we shouldn't take the player who bowled fastest bowl in psl.. but we should take the bowler who is a package.. like haris is better bowler than hasnain.. b/c he can bowl with new ball. He can reverse it.. and he has better bowling sense than hasnain

 

[Ronaldo7]

From this squad:


Fahim Out ----> Amir In
Yasir Out ----> Shadab In
Junaid Out ----> Rauf In
Abid Out ----> Asif In

Shadab is already in the WC squad.

 

[shaykh]

Because i can tell he is good and no its not the PSL i am going by.
He has improved a lot in the last few months and should be in the LOI side .
Much better than the ones in the 11

You could be right...just think getting slapped around by Abid Ali and Salman Butt didn't help his cause...

I'd be wary though of too many newbies in the side...Hasnain has seemed the most threatening of our bowlers...and Shadab I would have in the side for his fielding alone...

 

[Syed1]

Shadab is already in the WC squad.

I clearly said from THIS squad. Learn to read.

 

[shaz72]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] was right - Junaid is done and dusted and single handed lost this game.

Bring Shadab in for Junaid and make sure he stays there...

Yes Shadab is not great but cannot do worse than Junaid...

Which ever bowler you replace the fortune will not change. Main reason the bowling coach, The line of the bowlers since AM become bowling coach has changed. No bowler is bowling yorker, full delivery slower one. This is a responsibility of the coach to teach them during nets. If you observe the teaching method of Great Azhar Mahmood he insist bowler to bowl length delivery.

 

[last_knight]

Batting unit needed one momentum match (2nd ODI) and they are doing fine since then.

Bowling unit also needs just one momentum match and it will be fine.

Real problem is Fielding.

And a potential problem, if Abid Ali is replaced by Asif, is Sarfaraz getting one match ban for slow over rates in WC. We won't have a backup keeper. May be Babar can keep, courtesy Akmal genes.

 

[Savak]

Can't do much with the bowling unit now, if only there was a way to get a proper spinner in the team.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Just bring Umer khan
KULDEEP Yadav I remember came into the indian side when he had only 14 or something wickets in 10 list a matches. Umer khan has the exact same no of wickets. Why not just use him?? It's not like we are favourites to the world cup or anything.

 

[in_cutter]

Where are all those who claimed Junaid is a ‘future ATG’ lmao

 

[Sami92]

Pakistan missed a trick by not taking Usman Khan for the Eng ODIs.

 

[Kroll]

Any bowling changes won’t matter a jot if we can’t take our catches or letting the ball go through the legs for boundaries.

 

[aloo paratha]

Haris should replace him. Shaheen has to play next game. Hasnain will improve with every game.

We'll fare much better against other teams. England is just a batting powerhouse on flat tracks. Even Aussie and Saffers have difficulty bowling to them.

Exactly. People looking too much into our bowling. Firstly playing the #1 batting side(by a long shot, nobody compares) in their backyard on their flat pitches. Secondly, we are missing Shadab which completely messes up the balance of our attack.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Just need the guys with the yorkers.

Who bowls yorkers consistently in Pakistan? It's only missing ingredient.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Just need the guys with the yorkers.

Who bowls yorkers consistently in Pakistan? It's only missing ingredient.

Rauf was bowling it pretty consistently

 

[fighter85]

i want to fit in amir, asif ali, wahab riaz and umer khan (50 50 on this) into this team

as these are the only options i can think of. umer khan is a roll of dice but worth it as the current crop is looking very bad

to make way faheem ashraf is a no brainer, but after him its hard but options for the other 3 that make way can be, abid ali (50 50 on this), shoaib malik, shaheen afridi and junaid khan.

reason for wahab riaz is extra it seems the pitches are gonna be flat so medium pacers are not gonna be that effective.

for umer khan, as before i feel realy good spinners can also play a role in these conditions. i have no idea who this guy is but many people have brought up his name that he has poitential so why not take a punt

for amir, its weird he is not a superstar bowler anymore but he can do a job usually bowls economically and does not get smashsed often and on his day when he is feeling it (especially in big games) he can come into his own and win games for you.

i dont see anyone else we can possibly include. as for people suggesting shinwari the guy is very random he is not consistent or reliable. sure he can take some wickets but he can also bowl badly and get smashed and his temperament for big games is still up for debate

asif ali is obvious choice especially in place of faheem as i do not see faheem doing anything for pakistan in this tournament. its my 2 cents

 

[fighter85]

extra pace*

 

[babajee]

Shaheen
Hasan
Hasnain
Shadab

Wicket taking bowlers. Would also love Rauf to get in the mix somehow but it's too much to hope for.

 

[PakHammer]

It could happen. Our bowling is in crisis. The likes of Shinwari & Wahab still have a chance to come in the world cup squad. Junaid & Faheem are likely to be axed.

Safaraz seems to suggest Amir will not be fit for the world cup. I would like to see back of Imad. For a country who have had some great spinners in our time, it's a disgrace that he is one of our 'spinners' for the World Cup. As he cannot spin the ball. He is only good for 20/20 games.

 

[shaykh]

Why has everyone given up on Shadab?...

So he gets tonked sometimes...it's what happens to leggies sometimes...he's only 20...and he gets wickets...better to show confidence in him...

He was hardly a disaster last time he came to England...and at the very least he will improve our fielding where his presence has been seriously missed...his energy is an asset and he will pick up wickets...

A couple of poor performances against Saffas and a poor T20 season and the call for change...lets try some continuity for once...

As for Amir I would feel more comfortable with him in the team...he turns up for the big games...and while he doesn't get wickets he doesn't get tonked around either...he's as good as Fahim if not better with the bat...

Hasan, Shaheen, Amir, Shadab I feel should be a lock...the other pacer role should be up for grabs...

Imad would be fine depending on opposition...and his lower order hitting helps...

Wahab won't be called up...

 

[AFM]

Field better.

Our ground fielding and catching has been so atrocious.

 

[Pete Rose]

Haris should replace him. Shaheen has to play next game. Hasnain will improve with every game.

We'll fare much better against other teams. England is just a batting powerhouse on flat tracks. Even Aussie and Saffers have difficulty bowling to them.

Just want to put it out there that both Mark Wood and Archer were pretty innocuous today. I tend to agree that we cant assume what's happening against england will happen against other teams. England has not lost the last 20 games where they had to chase 300 or more.

 

[Farhan93]

Lol. Are you ok? Kashif bhatti as a darter like Imad. At least Imad is better bat and fielder then him which says a lot about your hero.

he can turn a ball, not a darter and his List A record is outstanding ..mention me another spinner with a better List A record..he can bat better than faheem as well..People here post without knowing anything

 

[CadPakFan]

My bowling attack will be


Amir
Hasan
Hasnain
Rauf
Hafeez
Malik/Haris



None of that darting by Imad, plus Inzi the revolutionary hasn't even picked a proper spinner so better to go with four man pace attack rather than non-spinning spinners.

No Shaheen?

 

[moghul]

And who's going to replace Amir,Hasnain and Faheem? they all are terrible...Even Shaheen looked out of sorts in the previous matches.....Keep Junaid and induct Rumman And Sadaf Hussain in place of Hasnain and Faheem

Lone fighter for that guy Sadaf )

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Just want to put it out there that both Mark Wood and Archer were pretty innocuous today. I tend to agree that we cant assume what's happening against england will happen against other teams. England has not lost the last 20 games where they had to chase 300 or more.

Having said that, this game was there for the taking. Pakistan were not focused enough in the last 15 overs to win this game. Mickey's done a lot to change Pakistan's culture but they're still way too lackadaisical at crucial periods in the game.

 

[Azrim_91]

You cannot draft Rauf, when the guys barely played professional cricket. Are you guys out of your mind? I really don't understand what Shinwari did to not warrant a go on the England tour.

Amir needs to be selected, based on the fact that our attack needs some experience in bowling in these conditions. Hasan Ali needs to seriously step up as he's been shocking in the last 2 overseas tours... Especially considering he was the No1 odi bowlers not too far back.

I'd go with

Amir
Hasan
Hasnain/Shaheen/Shinwari
Shadab
Imad/Malik
Hafeez

 

[Abdullah719]

he can turn a ball, not a darter and his List A record is outstanding ..mention me another spinner with a better List A record..he can bat better than faheem as well..People here post without knowing anything

Last two years, Kashif Bhatti's bowling average is 32 in List A cricket. Good economy though.

 

[javid]

Where are those people who were saying juniad is better than Usman shinwari......

 

[hur rizvi]

Faheem out Amir in
Junaid out Shinwari in

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Where are those people who were saying juniad is better than Usman shinwari......��

And how is Shinwari a guarantee when Shaheen, Hasan got massacred here? Even the phasttt bowler Wahab got carted here for 100+ runs a few years back.

We can keep changing bowlers, but won't solve the core issue. We need to change our bowling plans and Azhar needs to look at his methods.

 

[shaz72]

Imad Wasim will be slaughtered in the WC. And for god sakes open with pacers, don't waste the new ball.

Calling Imad wasim a bowler itself is joke. Stop fooling others by saying him as an all rounder. He's neither a bowler or a batsmens less said about his fielding will good.