Pakistani gun T20 Batsmen in World T20s post-2009

[zulfiqar]

Here is a batting overview of top Pakistani run-getters post-2009 victory. This includes the 2010, 2012, 2014 & 2016 editions of the World T20 tournaments:

Umar Akmal 486 runs in 18 innings (35 @ 132 SR)
M Hafeez 327 runs in 16 innings (22 @ 100 SR)
Kamran Akmal 292 runs in 16 innings (19 @ 111 SR)
Afridi 279 runs in 19 innings (14 @ 152 SR)
A Shehzad 246 runs in 8 innings (35 @ 129 SR)
Salman Butt 223 runs in 6 innings (45 @ 131 SR)
S Malik 207 runs in 13 innings (30 ave @ 118 SR)

I wanted to check this because Kamran Akmal, M Hafeez & Shoaib Malik seem like such TTFs. Here is the performance of the same list of players in just the last two editions:

Ahmed Shehzad 246 runs in 8 innings (35 @ 129 SR)
Umar Akmal 206 runs in 8 innings (26 @ 133 SR)
Shahid Afridi 158 runs in 8 innings (23 @ 174 SR)
S Malik 148 runs in 8 innings (37 @ 134 SR)
M Hafeez 124 runs in 6 innings (25 @ 100 SR)
Kamran Akmal 48 runs in 4 innings (12 @ 85 SR)

Isn't it mind-boggling to you guys that we basically use the exact same set of players for each tournament, and that we are basically headed in the same direction for the next WT20 edition by re-selecting Kamran & Hafeez? We're trying for different results with the same personnel... even if some of these guys have given strong domestic performances, isn't there some common sense in not trying the same guys again who failed at Int'l level despite being re-introduced several times? Also, Shoaib Malik has pretty inflated averages batting lower in the order, but still has more merit than the pathetic Hafeez & Kamran Akmal. Shehzad & Umar Akmal have strong cases for selection, particularly if they have strong domestic seasons, since they've shown that they have an appetite for runs in these tournaments (for Pakistani batting standards). Both their attitudes are less than acceptable, but at least they score runs!

 

[dildildalwalla]

I agree but at least there are a crop of young players being tried. TBH, off the back of the PSL, I can somewhat understand Kamran being picked but Hafeez makes no sense and Malik is only viable if he is given more of the ball.

I hope Zaman and Babar can come through for us.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Pakistan's batting always flops in World T20,so there aren't any gun batsman,still hope next edition will change things around and maybe one of Fakhar or Babar will become ideal match winner's.

 

[Syed1]

We keep bringing these TTFs back on the pretext of experience.

The hell with this experience if all it does is helps us fall flat on our face. I'd much rather go into the WT20 with a team of 18 year olds on debut than the likes of Kami, Hafeez, Malik and Tanvir. Atleast with the former you will have a chance that they will come good, with the oldies it is all but confirmed that they will flop like no tomorrow.

When Misbah was on his last legs in ODIs his most ardent supporters were off the opinion that as soon as saviour leaves we will struggle to cross 200. Well somebody pulled up a stat that showed a marked improvement in Pakistan's batting post 2015 WC. Same with Afridi, his fans would have us believe that Afridi is such a gem that he cannot be replaced. Fast forward to 2 years after his ODI departure and we two blokes in Imad and Shadab who are both individually and collectively miles ahead of Afridi.


There is always merit in trying new players and offloading the old failures. If the newbies don't work out you get a different set of newbies and keep doing the same until you get players who do work. It is criminal to go back to players of the caliber of Kami and Hafeez without trying out the length and breadth of your domestic talent.

Alas, you cannot expect rationality from folks like Inzi who even during their captaincy never wanted to drop their friends and bring in fresh talent. We are seeing the same decision making with him as chief selector.

 

[Pakpak]

We keep bringing these TTFs back on the pretext of experience.

The hell with this experience if all it does is helps us fall flat on our face. I'd much rather go into the WT20 with a team of 18 year olds on debut than the likes of Kami, Hafeez, Malik and Tanvir. Atleast with the former you will have a chance that they will come good, with the oldies it is all but confirmed that they will flop like no tomorrow.

When Misbah was on his last legs in ODIs his most ardent supporters were off the opinion that as soon as saviour leaves we will struggle to cross 200. Well somebody pulled up a stat that showed a marked improvement in Pakistan's batting post 2015 WC. Same with Afridi, his fans would have us believe that Afridi is such a gem that he cannot be replaced. Fast forward to 2 years after his ODI departure and we two blokes in Imad and Shadab who are both individually and collectively miles ahead of Afridi.


There is always merit in trying new players and offloading the old failures. If the newbies don't work out you get a different set of newbies and keep doing the same until you get players who do work. It is criminal to go back to players of the caliber of Kami and Hafeez without trying out the length and breadth of your domestic talent.

Alas, you cannot expect rationality from folks like Inzi who even during their captaincy never wanted to drop their friends and bring in fresh talent. We are seeing the same decision making with him as chief selector.

I am afraid most of this will go over many peoples' heads. Its astounding people still want Kamran back, the guy is a PROVEN failure at international level, some players are just not cut out to be at international level regardless of their domestic prowess (even there, the guy failed in 7 out of 10 innings in the PSL). If he couldn't make his countless comebacks count to anything (on the back of his domestic performances back then too I might add) at a young age, he certainly is not going to turn into Bradman at 35.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

Umar Akmal Won us that Autralia Game in 2014, he was phenomenal in Wc 2010 as well.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Every t20 world cup we also bring back sohail Tanvir so he can get smashed and drop catches
You can always improve on awful, we are just to afraid

 

[Syed1]

Umar Akmal Won us that Autralia Game in 2014, he was phenomenal in Wc 2010 as well.

Almost singlehandedly lost us the 2016 WC

 

[Rayyman]

This shows: Malik>Hafeez

 

[Pete Rose]

There are no gun batsmen in Pakistan.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

There are no gun batsmen in Pakistan.

Babaa Azam

 

[Bilal7]

Kamran, Hafeez, Malik and Tanvir won't be there for the next T20 WC. Inzamam will drop them the moment they fail and this time, for good. There really was no choice but to pick these guys because the former was the best batsmen at the domestic level, Malik had been in good form, Hafeez needs a fair chance to prove himself again and Tanvir is picked so he doesn't moan when his career is ended.

Plus, Sharjeel, Latif, Irfan and Akmal didn't really help the selectors did they? Don't worry, the TTFs are on their way out. Already, Afridi, Azhar, Shafiq and Younis (ODIs) are gone and Butt is nowhere in sight. Please learn to be patient. Nothing good comes from rushing and making hasty decisions.

 

[phoenix363]

No but you forget. Kamran is now playing as a specialist batsman. His keeping was holding him back from becoming Bradman. Plus he clearly is the best batsman since he performed in PSL.

If you notice, he plays some very nice shots every now and again. Don't look at his terrible stats, they're meaningless.

 

[Abdullah]

We keep bringing these TTFs back on the pretext of experience.

The hell with this experience if all it does is helps us fall flat on our face. I'd much rather go into the WT20 with a team of 18 year olds on debut than the likes of Kami, Hafeez, Malik and Tanvir. Atleast with the former you will have a chance that they will come good, with the oldies it is all but confirmed that they will flop like no tomorrow.

When Misbah was on his last legs in ODIs his most ardent supporters were off the opinion that as soon as saviour leaves we will struggle to cross 200. Well somebody pulled up a stat that showed a marked improvement in Pakistan's batting post 2015 WC. Same with Afridi, his fans would have us believe that Afridi is such a gem that he cannot be replaced. Fast forward to 2 years after his ODI departure and we two blokes in Imad and Shadab who are both individually and collectively miles ahead of Afridi.


There is always merit in trying new players and offloading the old failures. If the newbies don't work out you get a different set of newbies and keep doing the same until you get players who do work. It is criminal to go back to players of the caliber of Kami and Hafeez without trying out the length and breadth of your domestic talent.

Alas, you cannot expect rationality from folks like Inzi who even during their captaincy never wanted to drop their friends and bring in fresh talent. We are seeing the same decision making with him as chief selector.

see your point but u have gone ott.
sharjeel and latif were in and kamran/shezzy/hafeez were not.
and secondly yes our batting has improved in odis (mainly to do with babar sharjeel and sarf) but the amount of times we have been well set at 40 overs and flopped the last ten with rizwan trying to slog (with imad to a lesser extent) shows we havent quite replaced afrid/razaq. the innings afridi played in psl we have not seen post 2015

 

[Barragan]

Akmal has always played one big knock in the T20 WC's.

Only one who has stood up and was a big loss in the last WC, when he didn't fire.

Him and Sharjeel together would have got us a win against one of the bigger teams.

 

[Pete Rose]

Babaa Azam

Gun batsman = performs under pesssure = wins games singlehandedly = fans not making excuses that 'rest of team is rubbish so what can one player do.

So, to repeat there are no gun batsmen in Pakistan in any format of the game

 

[Saj]

Awful stats and the cupboard seems to be bare, proven by the recall of Ahmed Shehzad and Kamran Akmal.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

Gun batsman = performs under pesssure = wins games singlehandedly = fans not making excuses that 'rest of team is rubbish so what can one player do.

So, to repeat there are no gun batsmen in Pakistan in any format of the game

definitely not up there yet, i agree

i think sarfraz could become a gun batsman though