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Pakistani humanist denied UK asylum after failing to identify Plato

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A Pakistani man who renounced his Muslim faith and became a humanist has had his application for asylum in the UK rejected after failing to correctly answer questions about ancient Greek philosophers.

The Home Office said Hamza bin Walayat’s failure to identify Plato and Aristotle as humanist philosophers indicated his knowledge of humanism was “rudimentary at best”.

The Home Office also said Walayat did not face persecution for his beliefs. In a letter rejecting his asylum claim, seen by the Guardian, it said his assertion that he would be at risk in Pakistan, and could be killed by his family because of his beliefs and his renunciation of Islam, was unfounded.

Walayat, who has lived in the UK since 2011, said he had received death threats from members of his family and community in Pakistan after integrating into secular British life, forming a relationship with a non-Muslim partner and refusing to conform to the expectations of conservative Islam.

Apostates are subject to discrimination, persecution and violence in Pakistan. In March last year, a student who had stated he was a humanist on his Facebook page was murdered at his university.

Blasphemy is punishable by death under Pakistani law. In August, 24 British politicians wrote to the Pakistani government urging it to repeal its draconian blasphemy law, which has been used against religious minorities and humanists.

Walayat claimed asylum in July last year after being served with removal papers for overstaying his student visa.

After an interview with immigration officials, the Home Office said he had “been unable to provide a consistent or credible account with regards the main aspect of your claim, namely that you are a humanist”.

When tested on his knowledge of humanism, Walayat gave a “basic definition” but could not identify “any famous Greek philosophers who were humanistic”.

The letter said: “When you were informed by the interviewing officer that he was referring to Plato and Aristotle, you replied: ‘Yeah, the thing is because of my medication that is strong I just forget stuff sometimes’.”

The Home Office concluded: “Your knowledge of humanism is rudimentary at best and not of a level that would be expected of a genuine follower of humanism.”

Walayat joined the Humanists UK organisation in August, but said he had believed in the basic principles of humanism from childhood.

According to Humanists UK, “humanism is not a ‘canonical’ belief system, where adherents must learn and follow a strict set of behaviour codes. As a descriptive term, humanists can be someone who has simply rejected religious belief but holds some positive conception of human values.”

In a letter in support of Walayat’s asylum application, Bob Churchill, of the International Humanist and Ethical Union, said: “For many, the broad descriptive ‘humanist’ is just a softer way of saying atheist, especially if you come from a place where identifying as atheist may be regarded as a deeply offensive statement.”

Andrew Copson, of Humanists UK, said the move “set a dangerous precedent for non-religious people fleeing persecution. The Home Office is simply incorrect to claim that non-religious people seeking asylum don’t get the same protection in law as religious people do.”

The questions put to Walayat “reveal a fundamental misunderstanding about the nature of humanism”, he added.

Walayat told the Guardian he believed his life would be in danger in Pakistan. The Home Office decision had come as a shock, he added. “I’ve told the truth and instead of believing me they are trying to find excuses to kick me out of the country,” he said.

Many Christians he had encountered in the UK did not have a detailed grasp of the history of their faith, he said, “but it doesn’t mean they’re not Christian”.

A Home Office spokesperson said: “The UK has a proud history of granting asylum to those who need our protection and each claim is carefully considered on its individual merits.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ied-uk-asylum-after-failing-to-identify-plato
 
If someone is an Apostate, why would they want to declare it in open and invite persecution? Just keep quiet and do not pray and participate in religious rituals. Simple.
 
I can guarantee 100% that the asylum claim was not rejected based on him not knowing who Plato is.

His sounds like a typical case of someone who has overstayed their visa, and then claims asylum so they don't have to go home.

The decision to reject would have been based on why he did not claim asylum as soon as he entered the country, and only when there was a threat to him being removed from the country due to overstaying his allowance.

The issue about him being a Humanist would have come about due to the grounds of his asylum claim, where he would have claimed persecution based on his beliefs. When pressed on what his beliefs were, he would have responded with "Humanism". It is then the Asylum interviewers job to ask questions on what the applicant understands about humanism, to build a picture of consistency.

But of course, the drugs made him forget. Naturally.

Good riddance. Jokers like these ruin everything for people in genuine fear of their life and face genuine persecution. He's made it into a high profile case to put pressure on the Home Office to amend their decision.
 
If someone is an Apostate, why would they want to declare it in open and invite persecution? Just keep quiet and do not pray and participate in religious rituals. Simple.

This is not a valid defence to reject an asylum claim.

Everyone has the right to practice their beliefs.

A more interesting question is, if it is known that there is persecution of a particular people for a particular reason, and nobody yet knows in your country, what happens if you choose to disclose it? Are you intentionally putting yourself in danger?

However, even in that case, the claim would be granted if one can evidence their persecution.
 
I worked on fruit farms back in the 90s and there were asylum seekers who weren't Qadianis pretending to be Qadianis. They won the right to stay but one of them later was deported for some crime he committed.
 
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