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What would be the reaction if KPL is organized in India? Would you like it or not? Personally if India can normalize situation in Indian Kashmir, I think even Pakistanis would be happy but if they keep on putting lockdowns etc in Indian Kashmir then that’s where the issue is.
 
SangasCoverDrive said:
What would be the reaction if KPL is organized in India? Would you like it or not? Personally if India can normalize situation in Indian Kashmir, I think even Pakistanis would be happy but if they keep on putting lockdowns etc in Indian Kashmir then that’s where the issue is.
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I would be happy for the world to see such a tournament.
Why? Because the world wide audience will see stadium full of soldered snd a few spectators chanting Pakistan Zindabad
 
No issue as long as its cricket only and no other motive. If there was any other motive then depends on that motive if I will have any issue or not.

Some people here and in India have lost the plot totally. Not everyone who likes cricket wants anything to do with politics or Kashmir or anything else.

When I watch cricket I just watch cricket. I have interest in anything political whilst watching cricket.
 
life goes on , were not as petty, dont see any fans on this forum calling for IPL boycott even though our players are barred, infact i have seen and have taken part in many discussions praising IPL.
 
I'm not petty to say the least have your tournament. This has been rather childish from BCCI. Pakistan is playing this in Azaad Kashmir which is part of Pakistan.

To threaten players that they will be excluded from any Indian jobs is pretty rubbish.
 
It already exists and been in place for ten years, but not a major tournament with overseas or even state cricketers playing it. It's mainly for the local cricketers.
 
Would actually like to see Pakistan players in IPL and Indian players in PSL, never mind any Kashmir leagues. Using cricket as a political tool is just tiresome as it is. You don't see Australia, NZ or England allowing such nonsense to kill their game, and that is why their cricket matches are not only enjoyable, but in good health.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Would actually like to see Pakistan players in IPL and Indian players in PSL, never mind any Kashmir leagues. Using cricket as a political tool is just tiresome as it is. You don't see Australia, NZ or England allowing such nonsense to kill their game, and that is why their cricket matches are not only enjoyable, but in good health.
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Until the Kashmir dispute is there, this will continue to happen. Otherwise imagine a Pakistani cricketer playing the IPL and tweeting a pro Pakistan political stance or an Indian cricketer playing the PSL and tweeting a pro Indian political stance, it will invariably end up in calls for boycotting that player and ultimately it would lead to a ban anyway. Western nations don't have a Kashmir sized conflict between them and western players also rarely make political comments tbh. So not comparable.
 
Indians

What would be your reaction if PCB set up a 7th franchise for PSL under the name of Jammu and Kashmir?
 
Rana said:
Indians

What would be your reaction if PCB set up a 7th franchise for PSL under the name of Jammu and Kashmir?
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coming to think of it, PCB should rename PSL as "Indian Occupied Kashmir Azaadi Cup".
 
street cricketer said:
Until the Kashmir dispute is there, this will continue to happen. Otherwise imagine a Pakistani cricketer playing the IPL and tweeting a pro Pakistan political stance or an Indian cricketer playing the PSL and tweeting a pro Indian political stance, it will invariably end up in calls for boycotting that player and ultimately it would lead to a ban anyway. Western nations don't have a Kashmir sized conflict between them and western players also rarely make political comments tbh. So not comparable.
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Pakistan and India did manage to play cricket at normal level for a couple of decades without much issue during Imran Khan/Wasim Akram/Tendulkar era, so it has been done. Kashmir was still there during that time, it didn't disappear off the map. Just need to figure out what has changed since then and why stances have shifted to uncompromising and permanent outrage.
 
Its a rhetorical question. The real question should have been what would be Pakistan's reaction if BCCI organized a Balochistan Premier League in Mumbai with the anthem 'Khelo Azadi se'. I am sure PCB would find it political and raise the issue with ICC like they did when Indian players wore army jersey. Its exactly the same situation but just bcoz its other way around people have no issues here.

I am actually perplexed that people still dont see any political angle in KPL.
 
Rana said:
Indians

What would be your reaction if PCB set up a 7th franchise for PSL under the name of Jammu and Kashmir?
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I wouldn't mind if a team is set up under the name of AJK, although I'd imagine some other Indians might by unhappy. Personally I'm not one of those Indians who believe that the Kashmir on Pakistan's side is an "integral part of our country". As long as there is no political agenda involved, I wouldn't have any qualms about it.

A PSL team under the name of Jammu and Kashmir would be a bit amusing though, given both Jammu and Kashmir (as in the proper Kashmir valley) are both in India.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pakistan and India did manage to play cricket at normal level for a couple of decades without much issue during Imran Khan/Wasim Akram/Tendulkar era, so it has been done. Kashmir was still there during that time, it didn't disappear off the map. Just need to figure out what has changed since then and why stances have shifted to uncompromising and permanent outrage.
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To be fair, social media wasn't prevalent then and cricketers weren't involved in giving interviews, certainly the political type too often. In current age, Afridi on one side and Dhawan on other side tweet their respective national positions on twitter quite regularly and that can easily escalate into a bigger fight with fans calling for boycott of the other nationality resulting in status quo. Current day cricketers are a lot more political too. The likes of Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman rarely made any political comments anyway while I have rarely seen Wasim Akram or even Waqar for that matter making any sort of political comments like Afridi or Gambhir do.
 
street cricketer said:
To be fair, social media wasn't prevalent then and cricketers weren't involved in giving interviews, certainly the political type too often. In current age, Afridi on one side and Dhawan on other side tweet their respective national positions on twitter quite regularly and that can easily escalate into a bigger fight with fans calling for boycott of the other nationality resulting in status quo. Current day cricketers are a lot more political too. The likes of Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman rarely made any political comments anyway while I have rarely seen Wasim Akram or even Waqar for that matter making any sort of political comments like Afridi or Gambhir do.
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As I said, the other nations also have social media, Australia, NZ and England have had their share of animosities down the years as well, but their boards take the high road and try to rise above petty tweeting and twerping. I just think it's a reflection of why south Asia is still a dump, even their professional boards act like aunties in a soap drama.
 
Rajdeep said:
Its a rhetorical question. The real question should have been what would be Pakistan's reaction if BCCI organized a Balochistan Premier League in Mumbai with the anthem 'Khelo Azadi se'. I am sure PCB would find it political and raise the issue with ICC like they did when Indian players wore army jersey. Its exactly the same situation but just bcoz its other way around people have no issues here.

I am actually perplexed that people still dont see any political angle in KPL.
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Top post.

Not for content or quality but top class in terms of highlighting the Indian thought process here.

Ladies and gentlemen a tournament held by Pakistan in Kashmir is similar to a hypothetical Balochistan tournament held in India 1700km from Quetta.

Indian logic is incredible at times.
 
Unless India plan to hold it in a fortified, bullet-proof metal dome, I don't see how that would happen.
 
since we have IPL, the greatest T20 league in cricket world, there will be no other leagues. it won't be sanctioned in anyway. And no money, no players.
 
street cricketer said:
Until the Kashmir dispute is there, this will continue to happen. Otherwise imagine a Pakistani cricketer playing the IPL and tweeting a pro Pakistan political stance or an Indian cricketer playing the PSL and tweeting a pro Indian political stance, it will invariably end up in calls for boycotting that player and ultimately it would lead to a ban anyway. Western nations don't have a Kashmir sized conflict between them and western players also rarely make political comments tbh. So not comparable.
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You had horrific massacres committed in the two world wars and still those nations play.

I get your social media point but I find it unbelievably disappointing how we never had an India Pak series in the 2012 - 2016 era. How Kohli or Babar have never played a series against each others attacks.

It's absolutely sad.
 
IMMY69 said:
I would be happy for the world to see such a tournament.
Why? Because the world wide audience will see stadium full of soldered snd a few spectators chanting Pakistan Zindabad
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And this is why there will be no KPL in India. It will expose India pretty badly. :inti
 
Rajdeep said:
Its a rhetorical question. The real question should have been what would be Pakistan's reaction if BCCI organized a Balochistan Premier League in Mumbai with the anthem 'Khelo Azadi se'. I am sure PCB would find it political and raise the issue with ICC like they did when Indian players wore army jersey. Its exactly the same situation but just bcoz its other way around people have no issues here.

I am actually perplexed that people still dont see any political angle in KPL.
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:))) What connection Balochistan has with Mumbai and India? Forget Pakistani reactions, what makes you think that Shiv Sena will let them "khelo azaadi se" in Mumbai? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
:))) What connection Balochistan has with Mumbai and India? Forget Pakistani reactions, what makes you think that Shiv Sena will let them "khelo azaadi se" in Mumbai? :inti
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According to Pakistan, India supports seperatist movement in Baloch similarly to India's claim of Pakistan doing the same in Kashmir. So when you create a league called Kashmir Premier League with Azadi theme...its political. The arguement then given by Pak posters here is the league is hosted in Pakistani side of Kashmir, so why bothered? Hence the question, if India tomorrow organize a Baloch Premier League with the Azadi tagline and hold it anywhere in India, will Pakistan not have a problem? The way PCB acted when Indian players spotted the army Tshirt in the ODI against Australia, I am sure they would again run to the ICC complaining about any such league.

BCCI is doing exactly the same. The only difference is apart from just running to ICC, BCCI flexing their muscles and saying you play in that league..good do it but dont come here to earn money from Indian cricket. Now its upto players what they choose.
 
Rajdeep said:
Its a rhetorical question. The real question should have been what would be Pakistan's reaction if BCCI organized a Balochistan Premier League in Mumbai with the anthem 'Khelo Azadi se'. I am sure PCB would find it political and raise the issue with ICC like they did when Indian players wore army jersey. Its exactly the same situation but just bcoz its other way around people have no issues here.

I am actually perplexed that people still dont see any political angle in KPL.
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I’m more perplexed by your geography, Pakistan are hosting this league in Pakistan administered Kashmir, is any part of balochistan administered by India? This is the logic of Indian posters , can’t be surprised with the rubbish their government comes out with
 
Pakpak said:
You had horrific massacres committed in the two world wars and still those nations play.

I get your social media point but I find it unbelievably disappointing how we never had an India Pak series in the 2012 - 2016 era. How Kohli or Babar have never played a series against each others attacks.

It's absolutely sad.
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This might sound like a racist theory (it perhaps is), but I just don't think brown people are the most progressive race. Every race has certain values that they adopt which are conducive to progressiveness and development, and you have to evolve as a race to adopt these values. There is not much difference between human beings but it's human tribal nature to find divisions among ourselves. You have to evolve beyond that tribal mentality to progress as humankind and the white people figured it out very quickly, which is why their countries are some of the most progressive societies on earth. The asians (I mean Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, etc.) figured it out later and they are soon developing or developed into progressive societies.

Meanwhile just think about the parts of the world where there's strife and violence. It's hard for our people to move beyond the constraints of ethnic, religious and other divisions which is why most unrest occur in regions where our people live. Black people in Africa aren't much better than us either, in that they are also guilty of having the same tribal mindset like us. It's chalk and cheese comparing white societies and brown societies tbh.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
coming to think of it, PCB should rename PSL as "Indian Occupied Kashmir Azaadi Cup".
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Do it but then foreign players have to choose one league from PSL & IPL .Which league mostly top players will chose everybody know the answer . It will be badly backfire for PSl .lol
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Would actually like to see Pakistan players in IPL and Indian players in PSL, never mind any Kashmir leagues. Using cricket as a political tool is just tiresome as it is. You don't see Australia, NZ or England allowing such nonsense to kill their game, and that is why their cricket matches are not only enjoyable, but in good health.
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100%. This is what I want to see as well. Sports should be used to build relationships, not for fueling hatred.
 
That would actually be beneficial for pakistan and kashmir.

This way india accidentally ends up bringing kashmir in the limelight which they never wanted to.

Anyways, didnt the indian wicket keeper wore army caps in an icc match? So why the crying by them?
 
Itachi said:
since we have IPL, the greatest T20 league in cricket world, there will be no other leagues. it won't be sanctioned in anyway. And no money, no players.
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Come on. You guys had that bollywod premier league :)))
 
Putting politics aside, couldn't Pakistan have invested all their efforts in investing in drop in pitches for domestic, convince some our players in the U.S to come back like Junaid and Sami, could Pakistan not have made more efforts in arranging more A tours and test cricket?????

What do you aim to achieve with KPL when we already have PSL?
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Putting politics aside, couldn't Pakistan have invested all their efforts in investing in drop in pitches for domestic, convince some our players in the U.S to come back like Junaid and Sami, could Pakistan not have made more efforts in arranging more A tours and test cricket?????

What do you aim to achieve with KPL when we already have PSL?
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I think many posters still dont know that kpl is a venture by the kashmiri business people.

Pcb has given approval for it they dont own it.
 
Rajdeep said:
According to Pakistan, India supports seperatist movement in Baloch similarly to India's claim of Pakistan doing the same in Kashmir. So when you create a league called Kashmir Premier League with Azadi theme...its political. The arguement then given by Pak posters here is the league is hosted in Pakistani side of Kashmir, so why bothered? Hence the question, if India tomorrow organize a Baloch Premier League with the Azadi tagline and hold it anywhere in India, will Pakistan not have a problem? The way PCB acted when Indian players spotted the army Tshirt in the ODI against Australia, I am sure they would again run to the ICC complaining about any such league.

BCCI is doing exactly the same. The only difference is apart from just running to ICC, BCCI flexing their muscles and saying you play in that league..good do it but dont come here to earn money from Indian cricket. Now its upto players what they choose.
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whoever said there was an "azaadi" theme?
 
I would have no issue, they can do whatever they want and I would not expect anyone else to start making threats if someone wanted to play there.. the irony however is that they would struggle to find any local Kashmiri players given their disdain for India.
 
They can do whatever they want to do;

they can even rename Mumbai Indians to London Indians ; and they can pretty well do it

I think some of us extreme side and, some of our political hierarchy now get some airtime with this KPL thing..
 
Giannis said:
No Pakistani has an issue lol cause India already had a league in occupied Kashmir controlled by their army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Premier_League_(India)

India has even played international matches in Srinagar while Pakistan decided to respect Kashmir's sovereignty, it backfired on India because touring teams would end up getting home advantage as the Indian team would get constantly booed.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/arti...ty-from-srinagar-crowd-and-west-indies-277580
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Any old footage of these matches?

On topic, it will never happen because India doesnt want the world to see how much they are hated in Kashmir.

Besides the umpires will prob be Indian generals, to ensure they continue to make the decisions.
 
Giannis said:
No Pakistani has an issue lol cause India already had a league in occupied Kashmir controlled by their army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Premier_League_(India)

India has even played international matches in Srinagar while Pakistan decided to respect Kashmir's sovereignty, it backfired on India because touring teams would end up getting home advantage as the Indian team would get constantly booed.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/arti...ty-from-srinagar-crowd-and-west-indies-277580
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Things took a different shape next morning. The Indians were booed by a section of the crowd the moment they arrived for the pre-match warm-ups. The jeering spread across the ground, taking both sides by surprise.

Sunil Gavaskar later wrote in Runs ’n’ Ruins: “Being hooted at after a defeat is understandable, but this was incredible. Moreover, there were many in the crowd shouting pro-Pakistan slogans which confounded us, because we were playing the West Indies and not Pakistan.”
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
Your ignorance doesn’t mean they don’t exist

Star sports is always Broadcasting this

Heck players like Ashwin etc play in those
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Where did i say they don't exist?

I just said, I haven't heard about them.

This is the issue with some people. You are so insecure that you will complain about things which isn't even there.
 
Rajdeep said:
Its a rhetorical question. The real question should have been what would be Pakistan's reaction if BCCI organized a Balochistan Premier League in Mumbai with the anthem 'Khelo Azadi se'. I am sure PCB would find it political and raise the issue with ICC like they did when Indian players wore army jersey. Its exactly the same situation but just bcoz its other way around people have no issues here.

I am actually perplexed that people still dont see any political angle in KPL.
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Why would india make balcohistan league , baloch is in pakistan do ur fantasy league wouldnt make any sense hahaha

Kashmir league shouldnt be an issue weather its in india or pakistan because both have areas of kashmir under their control so it should never be a issue.

Pakistan can have balochistan league too to have just cities from Balochistan it would not cause any issues or problems
 
India should start a Kashmir league, what's stopping them?. This would tell the world about what is really happening in IoK and what Kashmiri people really think of India. I remember the IoK supporting the West Indies over India when some one day match took place there. I also remember how Modi was talking in front of an empty stadium some years back when he visited IoK.
 
PakLFC said:
India should start a Kashmir league, what's stopping them?. This would tell the world about what is really happening in IoK and what Kashmiri people really think of India. I remember the IoK supporting the West Indies over India when some one day match took place there. I also remember how Modi was talking in front of an empty stadium some years back when he visited IoK.
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countries don't start a tournament in order to use it as a political propaganda like pakistan does. Just because Pakistan does it, doesn't mean other countries should follow the trend.
 
Itachi said:
countries don't start a tournament in order to use it as a political propaganda like pakistan does. Just because Pakistan does it, doesn't mean other countries should follow the trend.
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Yes they do! Last season England used the restarting of the EPL to show that things were improving after Covid. India can not do this because it will expose what Kashmiri people think about them.
 
Itachi said:
Where did i say they don't exist?

I just said, I haven't heard about them.

This is the issue with some people. You are so insecure that you will complain about things which isn't even there.
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The only insecurity here is yours

You made a claim. Someone made you look foolish by giving evidence contrary to your ignorant claim. And instead of apologizing for making inaccurate claims you ran with your tail between your legs say ‘haven’t heard of it’
 
I'm sure India can organise it with the help of army and police by imposing section 144 in whole kashmir and snapping Internet.
 
India opened up Mumbai only a few days after the 26/11 attacks to tell the world how resilient they were as a country and city. The American's were also playing baseball and ice hockey few days after the 9/11 attacks to show the world in the Bush's words "terrorism will not win". India can shut Pak up permanently by having a KPL type of tournament in IoK attended by hundred's of thousands of Kashmiris. This would show the world how much the Kashmiris love India once and for all. As per the expression "chor ki daadi mein tinka".
 
PakLFC said:
India opened up Mumbai only a few days after the 26/11 attacks to tell the world how resilient they were as a country and city. The American's were also playing baseball and ice hockey few days after the 9/11 attacks to show the world in the Bush's words "terrorism will not win". India can shut Pak up permanently by having a KPL type of tournament in IoK attended by hundred's of thousands of Kashmiris. This would show the world how much the Kashmiris love India once and for all. As per the expression "chor ki daadi mein tinka".
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I can imagine IKPL with spectators waving Pakistani flags inside the stadium. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I can imagine IKPL with spectators waving Pakistani flags inside the stadium. :inti
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Just like if they host a Balochistan Premier league, I am sure there will be few Indian flags. Hence I said...its a rhetorical question. Remember how there were posters of Shiv Sena and Akhand Bharat in Islamabad street after article 370 aborogation.

No one is saying there arent people in Kashmir who loves Pakistan. Infact from my experience many main stream Indians also loves Pakistan more than India. You should know it better than anyone. :))

No one is stopping them to love or support Pak either...they are absolutely free to do it. India only cares about the Kashmir land and never giving it back at any cost.
 
I think there will be far more Pak flags in IoK then Indian ones in Baluchistan. It won't even be close, behave:shhh
 
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