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Pakistan's forfeit has angered India more than Pakistan; why?

rpant_gabba said:
I cannot speak for all of India or Indian supporters.

I for one am thrilled and have been praying for this escalation and comlete wrecking of ICC.



Please tag Indian poster I'm missing and let me if you are really angered by this "boycott"
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I am happy to see a boycott. It may force every one to work their back off to get the lost revenue back.otherwise its an easy piggyriding on bcci's back.we will break away from the same group nonsense for good
 
Mesozoic said:
Won by 29 runs comfortably..

You lot were losing it until the 19th over.
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Missed your expert analysis after the India vs South Africa Test series. I see you have started quoting me again, must be feeling great today, with everything going nice and smooth. :yk :inti
 
BreadPakoda said:
Many Indians low key wanted BCCI to boycott games against Pakistan but BCCI didn’t do it for obvious ($$) reasons. Worse they decided to do all the handshake performative drama that still doesn’t make sense. If you decide to play, do it properly. If not, better boycott. Also dedicating wins to soldiers and all also doesn’t make sense. What if you lose a game?

PCB did what many Indians wanted BCCI to do.

All this talk about money on both sides is childish. No one is putting or taking away money from your (fans) pocket. Only thing is T20s will get more popular which one can dislike.
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PCB :uak
 
It was genius work. They saw the opportunity the BCB presented by going against the BCCI and India, like the rest of their country and played their cards perfectly:

- They showed courage by standing with the BCB and fighting for justice. The same rules should apply to every board in the ICC, regardless of how much revenue each board brings in. Being the only board to support the BCB was very courageous.

- They caused huge panic in the ICC and the BCCI by declaring that the India game would be boycotted due to the treatment of Bangladesh. You could see this panic even seep into the Indian players with their captain, Yadav, declaring that they would be travelling to Colombo. Literally begging the Pak players to play with them.

- The whole world saw just how much pull Pakistan has in the sport of cricket. Not only is Pakistan one of the most successful cricketing dynasties, they have been at the forefront of nearly every major innovation in cricket. You cannot bully the PCB or isolate Pakistan, they simply have too much pull and far too many friends and this was made clear to all.

- Finally, agreeing to play the match, after the insistence of friendly countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and the UAE shows that Pakistan was only ever looking for justice for its brotherly nation. The BCB and it's people will never forget that Pakistan stood by them in their time of need. Sri Lanka also owes Pakistan big time for saving their ticket revenues from the upcoming game.

- I can't believe that it has to be said but there was zero benefit for Pakistan to actually go ahead with the boycott. The threat of the boycott had the same effect and gave the PCB everything they wanted, without jeopardizing their progress in the tournament or having them on the hook for lost revenues.

Credit has to be given where it is due. This was done really well.
 
Major said:
For a country that still showed up to play three games of Asia Cup after Banyan ul Maroos, these guys are still gonna follow the rules and regulations.

They cant violate ICCs rules and regulations. They pull any thing stupid, CAS will come into play.
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What cas? Icc doesn’t recognise the jurisdiction of cas, for arbitration, both parties must agree to the place of arbitration, if they don’t, arbitration will not happen, tu cas cas rota reh gaya

Pcb ne u turn maar liya
 
Bilal7 said:
It was genius work. They saw the opportunity the BCB presented by going against the BCCI and India, like the rest of their country and played their cards perfectly:

- They showed courage by standing with the BCB and fighting for justice. The same rules should apply to every board in the ICC, regardless of how much revenue each board brings in. Being the only board to support the BCB was very courageous.

- They caused huge panic in the ICC and the BCCI by declaring that the India game would be boycotted due to the treatment of Bangladesh. You could see this panic even seep into the Indian players with their captain, Yadav, declaring that they would be travelling to Colombo. Literally begging the Pak players to play with them.

- The whole world saw just how much pull Pakistan has in the sport of cricket. Not only is Pakistan one of the most successful cricketing dynasties, they have been at the forefront of nearly every major innovation in cricket. You cannot bully the PCB or isolate Pakistan, they simply have too much pull and far too many friends and this was made clear to all.

- Finally, agreeing to play the match, after the insistence of friendly countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and the UAE shows that Pakistan was only ever looking for justice for its brotherly nation. The BCB and it's people will never forget that Pakistan stood by them in their time of need. Sri Lanka also owes Pakistan big time for saving their ticket revenues from the upcoming game.

- I can't believe that it has to be said but there was zero benefit for Pakistan to actually go ahead with the boycott. The threat of the boycott had the same effect and gave the PCB everything they wanted, without jeopardizing their progress in the tournament or having them on the hook for lost revenues.

Credit has to be given where it is due. This was done really well.
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U turn was done well?
 
cricketjoshila said:
U turn was done well?
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Pakistan is already your mortal enemy. Bangladesh is now on Pakistan's side. Sri Lanka is also going to be leaning Pro-Pakistan moving forward.

Yes, every objective was achieved. The BCB gets no repercussions for insulting India and shedding light on their security concerns and Pakistan gets to look like a hero in the eyes of the world.

It's only a U-turn if you were dumb enough to believe they were boycotting just for the sake of boycotting a cricket match and not to pressure the ICC and BCCI to give concessions.
 
Bilal7 said:
Pakistan is already your mortal enemy. Bangladesh is now on Pakistan's side. Sri Lanka is also going to be leaning Pro-Pakistan moving forward.

Yes, every objective was achieved. The BCB gets no repercussions for insulting India and shedding light on their security concerns and Pakistan gets to look like a hero in the eyes of the world.

It's only a U-turn if you were dumb enough to believe they were boycotting just for the sake of boycotting a cricket match and not to pressure the ICC and BCCI to give concessions.
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I love your claim that not playing in a prestigious world cup is somehow no repercussions or 14 out of 16 countries rejecting your security concerns and voting against you about security concerns is somehow shedding light on that security concerns. There is delusion and there is this.

And if there were any concessions, PCB would be highlighting them in every single media as a win. Where is those concessions in PCB statement and Government of Pakistan statement?

And of course Sri Lanka will side with someone who threw a tantrum and then did a U-turn, because those are the kind of geniuses you align with when it comes to money and business, those who behave like toddlers. Great people to align with and do business with.

As I said, there is delusion and then there is this.
 
I think I can comment here now. It was never anger in India as much as a clear headed resolve.

Forget the moaning of fans, BCCI in its official capacity or even a senior official never gave a single statement, no senior Indian politician even 2-3 levels below SS commented.

It was resolve.
 
Anger is too much. Most were amused by PCB taking a moral stand for once rather than meek surrender, which generally is expected from them.

I, personally, was supporting the boycott to understand what happens when PCB plays the biggest hand they have to play at their disposal.

I guess, we will have to wait until next ICC tournament to see how long will this bluff works for PCB.
 
SilentWatcher said:
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I, personally, was supporting the boycott to understand what happens when PCB plays the biggest hand they have to play at their disposal.

I guess, we will have to wait until next ICC tournament to see how long will this bluff works for PCB.
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Exactly. I was full on supporting a boycott and have posted multiple times to that effect.

Like you, I wanted to find out what happens when PCB plays its ultimate card.

Maybe next time
 
Sachin fan said:
I love your claim that not playing in a prestigious world cup is somehow no repercussions or 14 out of 16 countries rejecting your security concerns and voting against you about security concerns is somehow shedding light on that security concerns. There is delusion and there is this.

And if there were any concessions, PCB would be highlighting them in every single media as a win. Where is those concessions in PCB statement and Government of Pakistan statement?

And of course Sri Lanka will side with someone who threw a tantrum and then did a U-turn, because those are the kind of geniuses you align with when it comes to money and business, those who behave like toddlers. Great people to align with and do business with.

As I said, there is delusion and then there is this.
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Bangladesh were never playing in this world Cup. They made their stance clear; that was definitely not something the PCB could push for.

What they did achieve was that the BCB would get their cut of the revenue and would face no penalties from the ICC. They will also keep all their hosting rights and in fact, will gain hosting rights to an additional tournament.

Pakistan already has everything they need from the ICC. Indians aren't allowed on our soil and our Pak players never have to travel to the grape capital of the world to play cricket.

Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka together is absolutely perfect. Time to get Afghanistan on board so that we can start having Asia Cups without India.
 
@Major now you can understand why they were whining

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The ICC revenue distribution for the 2024–2027 cycle reveals a massive financial disparity between the BCCI and the PCB. The BCCI is set to receive a dominant 38.50% share of the total revenue pool, amounting to approximately Rs 2,079 crore, which exceeds the combined shares of several major cricketing nations including England, Australia, and Pakistan. In contrast, the PCB’s share stands at just 5.75%, resulting in estimated earnings of around Rs 310 crore.

This significant gap is primarily driven by India’s role as the global engine of cricket economics, generating over 70% of the sport's worldwide revenue. The commercial importance of the rivalry is further highlighted by the fact that a single India-Pakistan match is valued between Rs 1,800 crore and Rs 2,200 crore, making it the ICC's most profitable fixture. Despite the financial stakes for both sides, India maintains a clear upper hand on the field, having secured 13 victories in 16 T20I encounters against Pakistan
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The Bald Eagle said:
@Major now you can understand why they were whining

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The ICC revenue distribution for the 2024–2027 cycle reveals a massive financial disparity between the BCCI and the PCB. The BCCI is set to receive a dominant 38.50% share of the total revenue pool, amounting to approximately Rs 2,079 crore, which exceeds the combined shares of several major cricketing nations including England, Australia, and Pakistan. In contrast, the PCB’s share stands at just 5.75%, resulting in estimated earnings of around Rs 310 crore.

This significant gap is primarily driven by India’s role as the global engine of cricket economics, generating over 70% of the sport's worldwide revenue. The commercial importance of the rivalry is further highlighted by the fact that a single India-Pakistan match is valued between Rs 1,800 crore and Rs 2,200 crore, making it the ICC's most profitable fixture. Despite the financial stakes for both sides, India maintains a clear upper hand on the field, having secured 13 victories in 16 T20I encounters against Pakistan
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So we feed them. I could understand the concerns.
If it werent for us, the thook cola production would had spiked.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
@Major now you can understand why they were whining

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The ICC revenue distribution for the 2024–2027 cycle reveals a massive financial disparity between the BCCI and the PCB. The BCCI is set to receive a dominant 38.50% share of the total revenue pool, amounting to approximately Rs 2,079 crore, which exceeds the combined shares of several major cricketing nations including England, Australia, and Pakistan. In contrast, the PCB’s share stands at just 5.75%, resulting in estimated earnings of around Rs 310 crore.

This significant gap is primarily driven by India’s role as the global engine of cricket economics, generating over 70% of the sport's worldwide revenue. The commercial importance of the rivalry is further highlighted by the fact that a single India-Pakistan match is valued between Rs 1,800 crore and Rs 2,200 crore, making it the ICC's most profitable fixture. Despite the financial stakes for both sides, India maintains a clear upper hand on the field, having secured 13 victories in 16 T20I encounters against Pakistan
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Isn't the revenue distribution 2 year old information? what were doing sleeping or simply slow?

who was whining? Most of us are mad that Pak decided not to boycott. wake up and smell the coffee
 
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rpant_gabba said:
Isn't the revenue distribution 2 year old information? what were doing sleeping or simply slow?

who was whining? Most of us are mad that Pak decided not to boycott. wake up and smell the coffee
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It was Jay Shah and the Indian Broadcasters who were desperate for this match.

This game would not have gone ahead if Jay Shah hadn’t pressured Sri Lanka and the BCB by threatening revenue cuts, effectively forcing Pakistan into playing India
 
emranabbas said:
It was Jay Shah and the Indian Broadcasters who were desperate for this match.

This game would not have gone ahead if Jay Shah hadn’t pressured Sri Lanka and the BCB by threatening revenue cuts, effectively forcing Pakistan into playing India
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Sure Champ. Whatever you say.
 
All the chest-thumping and childish nationalism aside, if there is one thing this incident has shown, its that Indian broadcasters desperately need this match. I think alot of it has to be with the Disney-Hotstar deal that grossly overvalued international cricket media rights. In the case of IPL, the media rights deal made sense because that is a product on prime-time Indian TV consistently delivering high viewership. But the international cricket model is heavily dependent on high-yield/marquee fixtures. You can't even compare the viewership numbers for Uganda v West Indes to Pakistan v India. And ofcourse out of that deal Pakistan v India is the most high-yield fixture there is. When the next rights deal happens, I think we will see the value of these rights go down considerably.
 
emranabbas said:
It was Jay Shah and the Indian Broadcasters who were desperate for this match.

This game would not have gone ahead if Jay Shah hadn’t pressured Sri Lanka and the BCB by threatening revenue cuts, effectively forcing Pakistan into playing India
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In other words .... ICC had PCB by their crown "jewels" and squeezed them just a little and voila there was the usual tail leg between etc tamasha .... I think I have seen this movie before ... tell me something new.

@rpant_gabba
 
Not seen indians more rattled before... The desperation and bhangra is quite funny from BCCICC
 
uppercut said:
In other words .... ICC had PCB by their crown "jewels" and squeezed them just a little and voila there was the usual tail leg between etc tamasha .... I think I have seen this movie before ... tell me something new.

@rpant_gabba
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No.

We had every boards crown jewels and jay shah crown jewels in our hands if we squeezed a little harder you can say good bye to international cricket.

Consider this as a warning ⚠️

You will see the result today india team will play in their aukat today and know not to mess with Pakistan and no political antics on the ground. 🤡

So India have come running with tails between their legs to Sri lanaka and will play like ache bache 👶

Next time..... you know what
 
BouncerGuy said:
Not seen indians more rattled before... The desperation and bhangra is quite funny from BCCICC
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Claim to boycott the match .

Government itself tweets that they're not going to take the field.

ICC comes with the belt and a mirror..

Surrender like cowards to ICC and wag your tails while agreeing to play like ache bache


Claim that BCCI are rattled 🤣


Pakistani fans.... ☕
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
All the chest-thumping and childish nationalism aside, if there is one thing this incident has shown, its that Indian broadcasters desperately need this match. I think alot of it has to be with the Disney-Hotstar deal that grossly overvalued international cricket media rights. In the case of IPL, the media rights deal made sense because that is a product on prime-time Indian TV consistently delivering high viewership. But the international cricket model is heavily dependent on high-yield/marquee fixtures. You can't even compare the viewership numbers for Uganda v West Indes to Pakistan v India. And ofcourse out of that deal Pakistan v India is the most high-yield fixture there is. When the next rights deal happens, I think we will see the value of these rights go down considerably.
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This is a key insight. There are primarily two things I find disappointing in how most cricket journalists have covered the sport in the last few years. One: the lack of questioning of the extant power structures. Two: the inability to put things in a longer and deeper context.

The second point is relevant here. @RedwoodOriginal has succinctly summarised the economic dimension, something very few journalists have examined with any depth. Economics has been central to the Indian Right’s sense of ego and power. It is also central to “Brand India,” a narrative that skilfully blends the promise of economic modernity with civilisational pride. (https://www.sup.org/books/asian-studies/brand-new-nation). This reflects a distinct shift in the Indian Right’s relationship to economics compared to earlier years as I tried to point out in another post (https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...tyle-rule-had-prevailed.316730/#post-12494432)

This conflation of economics, politics, and culture leads to cognitive dissonance: Pakistanis are deemed so contemptible that the Indian cricket team should not even shake their hands, yet the financial model of Indian broadcasting requires that India play Pakistan in an ICC event. The fixtures are rigged to guarantee the match. Revenue ultimately trumps rhetoric.
 
It's all about Money Saar.....

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Record-breaking! India–Pakistan T20 World Cup clash hits 163 million viewers digitally! becoming the most-watched ICC T20 game ever.

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