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Pakistan's last 8 Tests : 7 Losses and 1 win!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan last 8 Tests:<br> Lost<br> Lost<br> Lost<br> Lost<br> Lost<br> Lost<br> Won<br> Lost<br> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/860192452094963718">May 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Excellent parting gift from Misbah.

"Statistically and cricketing wise Pakistan's best ever captain."


:salute
 
Away series always brings losses.

I am surprised Pak lost to this new look WI side.
 
The fact is that we have been pathetic

First we lose a home match to arguably the weakest ever team to visit UAE. Unbelievable

Then we lose our first series to New Zealand for 30 years

Then we go to an Australia side battered and bruised by South Africa. Australia are in crisis mode having lost the series but we proceed to get whitewashed against arguably the weakest and most inexperienced Aussie side we have faced in years

To top it off we get beat by an inexperience and mediocre West Indies side whose players have played less total matches together than several of our individual players.

Unbelievable really

Breaking records all round

Worst ever sequence of results in our test history
 
Excellent parting gift from Misbah.

"Statistically and cricketing wise Pakistan's best ever captain."


:salute

The major blame goes to the geniuses in the team management who are good for talking but useless otherwise
 
We were told that we are the best Asian team and will steamroll India.
 
Wake up call by some blind fans as well. You should be able to call a spade a spade. When the team does well, praise it, but when it fails there should be room for critizism as well.
 
Lol India beat this same WI team convincingly and no one considered it an achievement. Shows how pathetic and overrated this Pak team is.
 
The fact is that we have been pathetic

First we lose a home match to arguably the weakest ever team to visit UAE. Unbelievable

Then we lose our first series to New Zealand for 30 years

Then we go to an Australia side battered and bruised by South Africa. Australia are in crisis mode having lost the series but we proceed to get whitewashed against arguably the weakest and most inexperienced Aussie side we have faced in years

To top it off we get beat by an inexperience and mediocre West Indies side whose players have played less total matches together than several of our individual players.

Unbelievable really

Breaking records all round

Worst ever sequence of results in our test history

Not sure for how long you can remain a test purist after watching match-loosing collapses every 2nd match.
 
The blue seats, crows and dogs of UAE are missing this legendary team.
 
The blue seats, crows and dogs of UAE are missing this legendary team.

We lost our last test match there too and barely beat WI on the other 2 tests :uakmal
 
Yeah we are also missing the tactical genius and his 100 laps around the ground. :waqar

Who knows whether that's the reason why we went up to #1!

Because now we don't even dominate in UAE
 
Wake up call by some blind fans as well. You should be able to call a spade a spade. When the team does well, praise it, but when it fails there should be room for critizism as well.

I didnot remember when they did well
 
Lets arrange a series against Zimbabwe or BD at UAE for Misbah and YK, give them one more chance to retire victorious, that has been the whole purpose of current PCB to please personalities and no care about the cricket team and its future.
 
Who knows whether that's the reason why we went up to #1!

Because now we don't even dominate in UAE

Yeah, I wonder why he couldn't take us to #1 in ODIs as well. Quite surprising given his tactical acumen, which took this mediocre team to #1 in Tests.
 
The fact is that we have been pathetic

First we lose a home match to arguably the weakest ever team to visit UAE. Unbelievable

Then we lose our first series to New Zealand for 30 years

Then we go to an Australia side battered and bruised by South Africa. Australia are in crisis mode having lost the series but we proceed to get whitewashed against arguably the weakest and most inexperienced Aussie side we have faced in years

To top it off we get beat by an inexperience and mediocre West Indies side whose players have played less total matches together than several of our individual players.

Unbelievable really

Breaking records all round

Worst ever sequence of results in our test history

In the Eng-Pak series, Pakistan were quite competitive abroad. So what the the difference between that series and later ones? Did Pakistan get weaker or was England weaker that thought?

England's follow up results of drawing 1-1 in Bang (which may have been 0-2 if Bang had reviewed an Ali not-out) and losing 4-0 in India suggests the latter.
 
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In the Eng-Pak series, Pakistan were quite competitive abroad. So what the the difference between that series and later ones? Did Pakistan get weaker or was England weaker that thought?

England's follow up results of drawing 1-1 in Bang (which may have been 0-2 if Bang had reviewed an Ali not-out) and losing 4-0 in India suggests the latter.

In England we were using the same tactics and strategies used in our successful UAE run

Post that series Mickey Arthur started to put his stamp on the team by changing batting lineup, team composition and tactics.

England's results in Asia don't matter in this discussion. They absolutely humiliated Sri Lanka in England and are always strong there so your suggestion is incorrect
 
Yeah, I wonder why he couldn't take us to #1 in ODIs as well. Quite surprising given his tactical acumen, which took this mediocre team to #1 in Tests.

He was a poor ODI coach no doubt. Arthur has been terrible on that front too. Basically the players are pathetic

In tests the players are of good level
 
And, Misbah is a better captain than great Imran Khan--------:46:

Haha... Imagine that..Imran fought much harder and better against the invincible West Indies of Viv Richards. Than MIsbah is doing against this weakling B team.

LoL for Sheryar Khan's political statement
 
He was a poor ODI coach no doubt. Arthur has been terrible on that front too. Basically the players are pathetic

In tests the players are of good level

The ODI team looks in better shape under Mickey. Secondly, you said it yourself. The Test side is capable of winning in the UAE and that is why Waqar looked good. One loss under Mickey doesn't mean anything. However, with Misbah and Younis out, we might lose a series in the UAE now, and you will obviously blame it on Mickey.
 
Pakistani team has a bright future.
We have better players then Shafiq, Shehzad etc in domestic. You have to watch players not just stats alone.
Have patience. Once few players are dropped and deserving ones selected, we will come good.
 
The ODI team looks in better shape under Mickey. Secondly, you said it yourself. The Test side is capable of winning in the UAE and that is why Waqar looked good. One loss under Mickey doesn't mean anything. However, with Misbah and Younis out, we might lose a series in the UAE now, and you will obviously blame it on Mickey.

I genuinely believe that the loss to WI (in UAE and here) is down to Mickey and his team managements tactics and selections

Also wouldn't have lose 5-0 in Oceania. The sides we faces weren't great sides by any means

We lost a lot of the crucial sessions and moments due to tactical and selection blunders and not purely because we are less skilled and for that the team management has to take the blame.

Even in the UAE West Indies series we made many tactical errors and read the game wrong which is why we barely won the series and all matches went down to the wire
 
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LOL Pakistan!

(Best team in Asia ATM) !
 
Our test team is in need of a fresh style . Misbah model has done well but it's time for something else.

Sarfraz and Mickey can implement something different I think.
 
In England we were using the same tactics and strategies used in our successful UAE run

Post that series Mickey Arthur started to put his stamp on the team by changing batting lineup, team composition and tactics.

England's results in Asia don't matter in this discussion. They absolutely humiliated Sri Lanka in England and are always strong there so your suggestion is incorrect

Maybe this is due to the fact that Sri Lanka too have become very poor losing home series to India and Pakistan etc post Jayakarra. In 2014 they actually won in England along with whitewashing Pak at home but lost the next time around. Thing is both the SL and Eng teams are weak as attested by the rankings.
 
The defeats all have the same causes, and they are all Misbah-ul-Haq's signature policies:

1. AGEING TEAM
- Azhar Ali, Younis Khan, Misbah, Asad Shafiq, Sarfraz Ahmed, Yasir Shah and Wahab Riaz all the wrong side of thirty.
- that is SEVEN members of the starting line-up. Ridiculous.

2. TOO FEW FAST BOWLERS
- Either 3 or even 2 in this Test.
- it means that Amir and his partners are overbowled and lose their zip.
- it also means that Yasir Shah is overbowled too early in the match, and loses his mystery.

3. RIDICULOUS DEFENSIVE FIELDS
- why does Misbah pack Yasir Shah's leg-side field and make him bowl too straight? He takes wickets when he bowls outside off-stump to an off-side field.
- it failed in Australia, and now it let the West Indies wriggle off the hook.
 
Lol India beat this same WI team convincingly and no one considered it an achievement.

It';s no achievement. Every team not named Bangladesh or Zimbabwe win in the West Indies these days.

The won 1 lost 7 is no great surprise to me since I never thought they were that good a team when they reached number 1 in the world last year.
 
It';s no achievement. Every team not named Bangladesh or Zimbabwe win in the West Indies these days.

The won 1 lost 7 is no great surprise to me since I never thought they were that good a team when they reached number 1 in the world last year.

Actually Bangladesh has won a series in WI, Pakistan hasn't. :ashwin
 
Younis and Msibah have slowed down with age hence the inconsistencies in their game, Shafiq has not stepped up a lack of world class fast bowler to lead the attack and Sarfraz not getting big scores have all been he reasons for downfall.
 
The blue seats, crows and dogs of UAE are missing this legendary team.

I don't understand your hypocracy. Yes, Pakistan deserves the criticism of their recent Test results. But England's last 8 Tests are very similar (1 win, 1 draw and 6 losses), and yet you think of them as one of the better teams.
 
Our batting will continue to be fragile , it has always been. I am pretty sure we would have lost the match chasing the same total with all our greatest batsmen at their peak ( hanif mohammad , saeed anwar , javed miandad , inzaman ul haq ). This is just in our genes.

The really worry for pakistan has been the fast bowling for quite a while now , there is no world class fast bowler in our team. We try to search for asif in every new right arm fast bowler and wasim in every left armer but the fact is that pakistan lack quality fast bowlers.
 
I don't understand your hypocracy. Yes, Pakistan deserves the criticism of their recent Test results. But England's last 8 Tests are very similar (1 win, 1 draw and 6 losses), and yet you think of them as one of the better teams.

Because there are no parallels between us and them. Look at their achievements in Test cricket in the last 5-6 years and look at ours. They won in India, Australia and South Africa, and occupied the number one ranking for a considerable period of time.

Yes for the last 12 months they have been in a slump, but the core of their team is about thrice as strong as ours - Root, Cook, Anderson, Broad, Bairstow, Stokes, and some excellent upcoming talents like Hameed, while the likes of Buttler and Roy can't even make their team at the moment. In addition, County cricket is extremely strong. In less than three months, they went from a poor ODI team to a top class one.

Not only is our core weaker, our domestic setup is a complete joke. England are far better placed than us and that will not change in the future, unless we can produce 2-3 young quality batsmen along with 2-3 pacers, which is unlikely considering our weak F/C system.
 
Because there are no parallels between us and them. Look at their achievements in Test cricket in the last 5-6 years and look at ours. They won in India, Australia and South Africa, and occupied the number one ranking for a considerable period of time.

Yes for the last 12 months they have been in a slump, but the core of their team is about thrice as strong as ours - Root, Cook, Anderson, Broad, Bairstow, Stokes, and some excellent upcoming talents like Hameed, while the likes of Buttler and Roy can't even make their team at the moment. In addition, County cricket is extremely strong. In less than three months, they went from a poor ODI team to a top class one.

Not only is our core weaker, our domestic setup is a complete joke. England are far better placed than us and that will not change in the future, unless we can produce 2-3 young quality batsmen along with 2-3 pacers, which is unlikely considering our weak F/C system.

If you're talking about results in this decade, then they've also lost series at home to SA and SL, failed to beat this 'mediocre' Pak team at home, got blanked 5-0 in Australia, failed to beat WI, SL and Bangladesh away and also not managing one Test win in the UAE across two trips (including a 4th innings collapse more embarrassing than the Pak just suffered).

I agree with your other points regarding their set up and domestic structure. But despite the mixed bag of results, you praise them as one of the stronger teams, but think of Pak as a mediocre team.
 
If you're talking about results in this decade, then they've also lost series at home to SA and SL, failed to beat this 'mediocre' Pak team at home, got blanked 5-0 in Australia, failed to beat WI, SL and Bangladesh away and also not managing one Test win in the UAE across two trips (including a 4th innings collapse more embarrassing than the Pak just suffered).

I agree with your other points regarding their set up and domestic structure. But despite the mixed bag of results, you praise them as one of the stronger teams, but think of Pak as a mediocre team.

Eng has a far better record than Pak in previous decade.
 
The defeats all have the same causes, and they are all Misbah-ul-Haq's signature policies:

1. AGEING TEAM
- Azhar Ali, Younis Khan, Misbah, Asad Shafiq, Sarfraz Ahmed, Yasir Shah and Wahab Riaz all the wrong side of thirty.
- that is SEVEN members of the starting line-up. Ridiculous.

2. TOO FEW FAST BOWLERS
- Either 3 or even 2 in this Test.
- it means that Amir and his partners are overbowled and lose their zip.
- it also means that Yasir Shah is overbowled too early in the match, and loses his mystery.

3. RIDICULOUS DEFENSIVE FIELDS
- why does Misbah pack Yasir Shah's leg-side field and make him bowl too straight? He takes wickets when he bowls outside off-stump to an off-side field.
- it failed in Australia, and now it let the West Indies wriggle off the hook.

Yes the man who just scored triple hundred and double hundred and century in previous game is aging
 
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