Pakistan's poor finishes and death over batting in the UAE

[Savak]

Have never seen a Pakistani ODI or T-20 side ever finis strongly in any ODI and T-20 contest before. In every match we have been scrambling for runs or just looking to bat out the full quota of overs. This is beyond pathetic

 

[PakPlayer]

Last 5 overs in t20

This is the fourth match that Pakistan have struggled to score big runs towards the end and find boundaries.

With the players we have 60 runs in 5 overs should not be in issue. Most players are low 100 strike rate.

What is the reason?

 

[Savak]

This is the fourth match that Pakistan have struggled to score big runs towards the end and find boundaries.

With the players we have 60 runs in 5 overs should not be in issue. Most players are low 100 strike rate.

What is the reason?

All I have seen the opposition do is take pace off the ball, bowl slower ball bouncers mixed in with the odd fast Yorker or fast short delivery.

Our batsmen have played so much cricket in the UAE that they should be used to batting here and should know what to expect.

 

[pakistani pride]

This is the fourth match that Pakistan have struggled to score big runs towards the end and find boundaries.

With the players we have 60 runs in 5 overs should not be in issue. Most players are low 100 strike rate.

What is the reason?

And other teams?

 

[Syed1]

It's not easy to hit on slow and low pitches with big boundaries, you often get caught in the deep. Either make pitches faster or bring in the boundaries, same team would be hitting 180+



And it's not like its a Pakistan only problem we saw same with other sides in Asia Cup and Aus series

 

[ARK Rafay]

UAE has hurt Pakistan a lot. I pray Cricket comes to Pakistan as soon as possible.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Kiwis bowled very well, slower balls and excellent fielding. Most teams would have struggled, however Imad should always come in before Faheem.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Players like Sarfraz and Mailik are poor hitters against pace. What they can do is to learn from kids like Hasan Mohsin who also doesnt have a power game but is superb at improvising.

 

[PakPlayer]

Sarfraz and asif should have swapped batting positions. We are lacking a player who can go crazy towards the end.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Highest 1st Innings Totals at this ground (excluding matches between minnows)


1) Pakistan 155/8 vs Australia last week
2) Pakistan 148/6 vs New Zealand today

 

[MenInG]

Highest 1st Innings Totals at this ground (excluding matches between minnows)


1) Pakistan 155/8 vs Australia last week
2) Pakistan 148/6 vs New Zealand today

Think Pakistan may know something we dont!

 

[troodon]

150 is enough to win for Pakistan in UAE. Pak has the spinners to choke the opposition. That is exactly what Pak spinners did today and have been doing for quite sometime.

You cannot score 180-200 runs like you do in other countries. UAE pitches are too slow and boundary ropes are too deep.

 

[Savak]

Think Pakistan may know something we dont!

Point being, Pakistan has been playing in the UAE for the last 10 years consistently, this is their home, they should by now have understood what to do on these slow grindy wickets

 

[Hawkeye]

Players like Sarfraz and Mailik are poor hitters against pace. What they can do is to learn from kids like Hasan Mohsin who also doesnt have a power game but is superb at improvising.

Good post, I appreciate that you're starting to see some actual flaws.

Both, due to their limitation, will always struggle on good/batting surfaces, where fast bowlers dominate and not spinners.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Good post, I appreciate that you're starting to see some actual flaws.

Both, due to their limitation, will always struggle on good/batting surfaces, where fast bowlers dominate and not spinners.

Bhai i have always maintained that Sarfraz and Malik are poor at hitting against pace. Point me to a single post where I have said otherwise. I am majorly a fan of Sarfraz's captaincy.

But you guys should also see that he has done reasonably well from the time he took over and we need to back him and our side till world cup and then assess the performance of the team.

 

[Hawkeye]

Bhai i have always maintained that Sarfraz and Malik are poor at hitting against pace. Point me to a single post where I have said otherwise. I am majorly a fan of Sarfraz's captaincy.

But you guys should also see that he has done reasonably well from the time he took over and we need to back him and our side till world cup and then assess the performance of the team.

Me criticizing his batting or his captaincy does not change the fact that he will remain the captain, until at least the world cup.

So yeah, he isn't going anywhere.

I criticize him mainly because he's not making the team on merit - you have to be able to bat well first of all and lead from the front.

Captaincy is a very subjective matter, nothing objective in it. Some people will like him, others not.

 

[IMMY69]

Point being, Pakistan has been playing in the UAE for the last 10 years consistently, this is their home, they should by now have understood what to do on these slow grindy wickets

What on earth?

Honestly what t is going on here!!!!!

Pakistan HAVE learned and they know that scores of 145-160 in Dubai is like 185-300 in different conditions..

Of course they try to score higher but teams don’t score 200-220 regularly in T20’s and Pakistan have now made scores that are equivalent of around 180 in the last 4 matches.

It’s not just me saying this... listen to the commentators, the players, even Williamson himself in the post match presentation....

 

[Ahson8]

Imad’s hits of the last 2 balls pretty much set up our win today

 

[IMMY69]

150 is enough to win for Pakistan in UAE. Pak has the spinners to choke the opposition. That is exactly what Pak spinners did today and have been doing for quite sometime.

You cannot score 180-200 runs like you do in other countries. UAE pitches are too slow and boundary ropes are too deep.

Thank you ��

 

[TeamPak95]

Well, good enough

 

[PakPremi]

Me criticizing his batting or his captaincy does not change the fact that he will remain the captain, until at least the world cup.

So yeah, he isn't going anywhere.

I criticize him mainly because he's not making the team on merit - you have to be able to bat well first of all and lead from the front.

Captaincy is a very subjective matter, nothing objective in it. Some people will like him, others not.

Sarfraz captaincy is getting better by each match. Most of his bowling changes yield wickets or choke runs. His batting is as good as needed from a wicket keeper. There are not many wicket keepers performing consistently like Dhoni used to. Sarfraz always scores at good rate. Scoring is not always about hitting 6s even in T20s. As for Malik I have seen him hit plenty of pace bowlers for boundaries.

 

[PakPremi]

We are playing Quality teams and on longer boundaries than the normal T20 grounds. So score of 150 to 160 is sufficient.

 

[Savak]

What on earth?

Honestly what t is going on here!!!!!

Pakistan HAVE learned and they know that scores of 145-160 in Dubai is like 185-300 in different conditions..

Of course they try to score higher but teams don’t score 200-220 regularly in T20’s and Pakistan have now made scores that are equivalent of around 180 in the last 4 matches.

It’s not just me saying this... listen to the commentators, the players, even Williamson himself in the post match presentation....

We are not going to get lucky by winning by 1-2-7 runs all the time. We have to score way above the par total. It is excusable for other teams to struggle in these conditions early on but for Pakistan it is inexcusable given that they have been playing here consistently for the last 10 years.

 

[PakPremi]

Pakistan does not have any real big hitting proper batsman like other teams have. Asif Ali is only a slogger at the moment.

 

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan does not have any real big hitting proper batsman like other teams have. Asif Ali is only a slogger at the moment.

NZ have 'real big hitting' batsmen and they all flopped, it's not easy to come in on these wickets and hit big.

The likes of Asif, Faheem and other big hitters will be crucial in T20Is when we play on truer and good batting pitches.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It’s not easy to hit the big shots from the get-go on these wickets. There’s a reason Australia and New Zealand, two teams with decent power hitters, have lost their games so far.

 

[PakPremi]

NZ have 'real big hitting' batsmen and they all flopped, iit's not easy to come in on these wickets and hit big.

The likes of Asif, Faheem and other big hitters will be crucial in T20Is when we play on truer and good batting pitches.

That is my point despite not having experienced and genuine batsmen who can hit big Pak are scoring good totals for these pitches, whereas others having abundance of experienced hard hitting star batsmen are struggling to score big here.

 

[Abdullah719]

That is my point despite not having experienced and genuine batsmen who can hit big Pak are scoring good totals for these pitches, whereas others having abundance of experienced hard hitting star batsmen are struggling to score big here.

Oh, right.

 

[IMMY69]

We are not going to get lucky by winning by 1-2-7 runs all the time. We have to score way above the par total. It is excusable for other teams to struggle in these conditions early on but for Pakistan it is inexcusable given that they have been playing here consistently for the last 10 years.

Firstly, we are allowed to lose the odd game and still be a good T20 team, the fact we’re winning everything is a bonus.

Sometimes you can put up 180 odd and still lose a game but we’ve put up scores that are equivalent to this and have thrashed the Aussies in three games... today was close but a win is a win...

This whole debate should wait after we’ve played on a better wicket with smaller boundaries. Meanwhile recent history has shown us that this very same batting line up has put up good scores on better wickets.

 

[Hawkeye]

Sarfraz captaincy is getting better by each match. Most of his bowling changes yield wickets or choke runs. His batting is as good as needed from a wicket keeper. There are not many wicket keepers performing consistently like Dhoni used to. Sarfraz always scores at good rate. Scoring is not always about hitting 6s even in T20s. As for Malik I have seen him hit plenty of pace bowlers for boundaries.

You can say that about T20s (choking runs etc). But one can argue that it's mostly about the spinners on these slow tracks.

Also, today's wicket keepers are also decent to good batsmen. And he also plays at that position. Not at 8/9!

 

[QalandarFan]

Yes, Pakistan is the only team struggling to score 180+ on these pitches the opposition has been chasing down these 150 totals in 12 overs. )

 

[QalandarFan]

Point being, Pakistan has been playing in the UAE for the last 10 years consistently, this is their home, they should by now have understood what to do on these slow grindy wickets

Are they not proving that by winning?

You're answering your own question here, they understand that 150-160 is a winning total here they don't need to look to slog to 200, because they know it's not a 200 pitch.

 

[hadi123]

It's not great that when batting first our death batting has been so poor. But then again, we've been winning games so nothing too major, these pitches aren't the easiest for batting

 

[MMHS]

UAE wickets are not conducive to stroke play at all, therefore over stressing the target might result into a far lower score. One complain I always raised that in ODI, PAK team looks confused regarding what should be ideal total on a given condition to set up or chase - most times, either leaves too much for last 15-20 overs, or gets all-out with balls at hand. But, in T20, what I can see that they know exactly what tempo batting should be done in given condition and exactly what they can defend.

On similar wickets, batting 2nd scores are like 89, 140, 114 & 146 - and these are 8 PM starts, means 2nd team is batting under heavy dew, which suggests these wickets are not easy for batting/hitting at all. Only test remaking is to see how PAK chases here - if successfully chases anything around 150, don’t think batting has much issues in T20.