PCB planning to organize third edition of PSL in January and February next year

[UN talkz]

Chairman Pakistan Cricket Board, Najam Sethi has announced setting up bio-mechanical lab at the National Cricket Academy Lahore.

Addressing a seminar on "Cricket in Pakistan" in Lahore today, he said international cricket is coming back to Pakistan.

He said Pakistan Cricket Board is planning to organize third edition of Pakistan Super League in January and February of the next year.

http://www.radio.gov.pk/08-Sep-2017...tion-of-psl-in-january-and-february-next-year

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

It's about time that PSL either gets its own window or be scheduled alongside IPL. That's perhaps the only solution of attracting marquee players in PSL. Not all the big stars gets into IPL. Some big names miss out on IPL and for them PSL is the next big thing. Otherwise, there will always be conflict in fixtures.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

How will it take place in January? Our series with New Zealand ends on January 28th and it will take some days for players to come back and relax, so it will eventually be February.

 

[Shaik]

Fake news, I reckon.

How can PSL compete with BBL. If they keep in Jan and Feb, most international players will be playing BBL.

 

[anonymous_guy]

The man belongs to PCB, and anything is possible for PCB.

They will first announce the PSL fixtures(or at least the starting date), then somehow would come to know about the Pak vs NZ series and eventually would reschedule the PSL fixture.

This is normal for PCB.

 

[Pakpak]

It's about time that PSL either gets its own window or be scheduled alongside IPL. That's perhaps the only solution of attracting marquee players in PSL. Not all the big stars gets into IPL. Some big names miss out on IPL and for them PSL is the next big thing. Otherwise, there will always be conflict in fixtures.

lol getting our window. Only the IPL has its window because it can bully the rest of the boards to give it so all the good players can play in their league.

 

[MABA]

Fake news, I reckon.

How can PSL compete with BBL. If they keep in Jan and Feb, most international players will be playing BBL.

PSL has a higher salary cap than BBL I believe, plus not many foreigners actually play BBL because they focus on local talent and don't have to rely on foreign players for their league to be a success.

 

[shabir kham]

PSL has a higher salary cap than BBL I believe, plus not many foreigners actually play BBL because they focus on local talent and don't have to rely on foreign players for their league to be a success.

Oh man Pakistan to tour NZ from 6 to 28 January so this is out of question

 

[Gubol123]

I think PCB should organize PSL in IPL virtual window. There are hardly any international tours and IPL tends to get affected only in the later part of the window. PSL, being shorter, will be able to fully host it in the window when there are no international tours. Anyway Pakistan will be free during that window and there are plenty of international stars who don't get picked up in IPL and still are very good. So it will be very good opportunity for those left out to make a statement and possibly become part of PSL franchise permanently rather than worrying for IPL contract. This will also bring much needed competition for IPL and hopefully that will make IPL innovate..

 

[MMHS]

lol getting our window. Only the IPL has its window because it can bully the rest of the boards to give it so all the good players can play in their league.

But, that idea of hosting PSL during IPL is quite good - at least as long as PAK players are not playing IPL. There are lots of quality players still left after IPL & these rest players will have 100% commitment, because of no International commitment and success of PSL can land them in next IPL.

One of my suggestion for BPL was to host it during IPL, but that few BD players actually can end up in IPL, hence they organize Dhaka League List A that time.

 

[MMHS]

I think, they are planing to organize FC tournament in Mar-May, or splitted either side of PSL - either way, it's better.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I think PCB should organize PSL in IPL virtual window. There are hardly any international tours and IPL tends to get affected only in the later part of the window. PSL, being shorter, will be able to fully host it in the window when there are no international tours. Anyway Pakistan will be free during that window and there are plenty of international stars who don't get picked up in IPL and still are very good. So it will be very good opportunity for those left out to make a statement and possibly become part of PSL franchise permanently rather than worrying for IPL contract. This will also bring much needed competition for IPL and hopefully that will make IPL innovate..

I think PSL should continue to host during Feb. PSL have been huge success as it is, so why change it?
To host alongside IPL can be detrimental as some of the PSL regulars are also part of IPL. For instance, players like Butler, D Bravo, Watson, Gayle, Billings, and many more.
Losing one or two wouldnt impact PSL, however losing almost all of them would mean PSL would have to work with IPL rejects and some bunch of oldies. I doubt PSL franchise owners and PSL management would like that.
PSL is no doubt a very successful league and have the potential to grow even bigger. But i dont think PSL can take on IPL, not yet.
Even if Psl/Bbl/Bpl/Cpl combined and organised the league to run alongside IPL, it will still not able to compete with it due to sheer number of Indian fans and businessmen/celeba involved with IPL.
Even bollywood do not release their movies during the IPL. Indians are crazy about IPL and it will only grow further.

 

[Gubol123]

I think PSL should continue to host during Feb. PSL have been huge success as it is, so why change it?
To host alongside IPL can be detrimental as some of the PSL regulars are also part of IPL. For instance, players like Butler, D Bravo, Watson, Gayle, Billings, and many more.
Losing one or two wouldnt impact PSL, however losing almost all of them would mean PSL would have to work with IPL rejects and some bunch of oldies. I doubt PSL franchise owners and PSL management would like that.
PSL is no doubt a very successful league and have the potential to grow even bigger. But i dont think PSL can take on IPL, not yet.
Even if Psl/Bbl/Bpl/Cpl combined and organised the league to run alongside IPL, it will still not able to compete with it due to sheer number of Indian fans and businessmen/celeba involved with IPL.
Even bollywood do not release their movies during the IPL. Indians are crazy about IPL and it will only grow further.

Except Butler none of the others are going to be big draw in the coming IPL. Gayle, Watson, Bravo are all spent force and may not fetch much in the draw next year. They may choose the comfort of PSL more than IPL.

 

[CanadianG00se]

But, that idea of hosting PSL during IPL is quite good - at least as long as PAK players are not playing IPL. There are lots of quality players still left after IPL & these rest players will have 100% commitment, because of no International commitment and success of PSL can land them in next IPL.

One of my suggestion for BPL was to host it during IPL, but that few BD players actually can end up in IPL, hence they organize Dhaka League List A that time.

Bangladesh players are not exactly huge attraction. Apart from Sakib and Fizz dont think anyone else even get contract. Even fizz was hot and cold in last IPL, im sure even his shares have decreased in IPL.
So basically apart from Sakib no one else seems to be gonna get IPL contract next year.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Except Butler none of the others are going to be big draw in the coming IPL. Gayle, Watson, Bravo are all spent force and may not fetch much in the draw next year. They may choose the comfort of PSL more than IPL.

You maybe right however if players do get contract in both leagues then you know who they will go for.

 

[Gubol123]

Bangladesh players are not exactly huge attraction. Apart from Sakib and Fizz dont think anyone else even get contract. Even fizz was hot and cold in last IPL, im sure even his shares have decreased in IPL.
So basically apart from Sakib no one else seems to be gonna get IPL contract next year.

Even Sakib is not a guaranteed starter in all matches.. So they may actually prefer to play in PSL if they get better role and long term contract. That will allow them to establish themselves as core team members in PSL rather than being on fringe in IPL (Not saying Sakib is on Fringe, but generally many Bangladeshi players are_

 

[MMHS]

Bangladesh players are not exactly huge attraction. Apart from Sakib and Fizz dont think anyone else even get contract. Even fizz was hot and cold in last IPL, im sure even his shares have decreased in IPL.
So basically apart from Sakib no one else seems to be gonna get IPL contract next year.

It's about making a policy, you have to keep the option open - in future there could be more players. Even if 1 player is there, BCB either has to compensate him, or allow players to skip BPL, at their will.

 

[Syed1]

But, that idea of hosting PSL during IPL is quite good - at least as long as PAK players are not playing IPL. There are lots of quality players still left after IPL & these rest players will have 100% commitment, because of no International commitment and success of PSL can land them in next IPL.

One of my suggestion for BPL was to host it during IPL, but that few BD players actually can end up in IPL, hence they organize Dhaka League List A that time.

If PSL is held with IPL we may gain some players but might also lose quite a few too, people like Gayle, Tamim, Shakib, Dwayne Smith, Andre Russell, Narine, Mccullum etc etc play in both IPL and PSL and we all know they will prefer to play in the IPL because of bigger pay cheque.

 

[CanadianG00se]

If PSL is held with IPL we may gain some players but might also lose quite a few too, people like Gayle, Tamim, Shakib, Dwayne Smith, Andre Russell, Narine, Mccullum etc etc play in both IPL and PSL and we all know they will prefer to play in the IPL because of bigger pay cheque.

Tamim wasnt part of IPL. I think it was Khawaja but i maybe wrong. But rest of them yes, you're right.

 

[Syed1]

Tamim wasnt part of IPL. I think it was Khawaja but i maybe wrong. But rest of them yes, you're right.

I won't know I don't follow the IPL, but last I heard Tamim was a part of the IPL, might have stopped going I guess.

 

[MMHS]

If PSL is held with IPL we may gain some players but might also lose quite a few too, people like Gayle, Tamim, Shakib, Dwayne Smith, Andre Russell, Narine, Mccullum etc etc play in both IPL and PSL and we all know they will prefer to play in the IPL because of bigger pay cheque.

True, but PSL has to establish it as a brand, more than stardom. There are enough players outside these retired or semi retired stars. In Europe, top players play in different leagues, and top leagues are equally popular. I think, after 2 rounds, PSL brand needs quality, which is younger & regular Internationals, rather than McCullums & Gayles & KPs & Sangas. If he doesn't get an IPL contract, this guy Ewen Lewis can be a T20 superstar at PSL.

 

[Gubol123]

You maybe right however if players do get contract in both leagues then you know who they will go for.

yeah agreed. we know where they will go, but that also brings lots of competition. India/Pak competition in any field is great to watch. PSL will improve. yes, it might lose some marquee players but it will also gain some committed players.

Only Pakistan and Bangladesh have potential to host t20 leagues which could one day compete with IPL. It will be great for the game and more for the players and coaches.

 

[CanadianG00se]

True, but PSL has to establish it as a brand, more than stardom. There are enough players outside these retired or semi retired stars. In Europe, top players play in different leagues, and top leagues are equally popular. I think, after 2 rounds, PSL brand needs quality, which is younger & regular Internationals, rather than McCullums & Gayles & KPs & Sangas. If he doesn't get an IPL contract, this guy Ewen Lewis can be a T20 superstar at PSL.

Ewen Lewis is sure to attract lot of interest in upcoming IPL auction. I will be shock if he doesnt get IPL contract.

To your earlier comment regarding BD players, i must say IPL owners are bit obssessed with SA/Aussie players maybe due to the coaches are mostly Aussie/Saffas. Apart from that, even Ipl fans want to see more Aussie/Saffa players and arent exactly inclined to watch Sakib/Mushfiqr/Mortaza etc. Not sure the reason behind lot of disinterest for BD players, but maybe has to do with all the controversies surrounded during WC 15 match and also during Wt20 game where Musfiqr pre celebrated and also posted a tweet when India lost a match against WI. There is lot of bitterness among Indian fans due to all these idiotic behaviour by Bd players and fans.

 

[CanadianG00se]

yeah agreed. we know where they will go, but that also brings lots of competition. India/Pak competition in any field is great to watch. PSL will improve. yes, it might lose some marquee players but it will also gain some committed players.

Only Pakistan and Bangladesh have potential to host t20 leagues which could one day compete with IPL. It will be great for the game and more for the players and coaches.

No to sound cocky but Even if BPL and PSL form a collaboration, dont see it can take on IPL.

IPL will genrates over half a billion every season. Not sure how much does PSL/BPL does but it wont be anywhere closed to it.

In future they can but as of now, I dont see anyone getting closed.

 

[MMHS]

Ewen Lewis is sure to attract lot of interest in upcoming IPL auction. I will be shock if he doesnt get IPL contract.

To your earlier comment regarding BD players, i must say IPL owners are bit obssessed with SA/Aussie players maybe due to the coaches are mostly Aussie/Saffas. Apart from that, even Ipl fans want to see more Aussie/Saffa players and arent exactly inclined to watch Sakib/Mushfiqr/Mortaza etc. Not sure the reason behind lot of disinterest for BD players, but maybe has to do with all the controversies surrounded during WC 15 match and also during Wt20 game where Musfiqr pre celebrated and also posted a tweet when India lost a match against WI. There is lot of bitterness among Indian fans due to all these idiotic behaviour by Bd players and fans.

Lewis was just an example. It's about a tactical call to counter threats in a business.

Either way, if IPL can pay $2mn to Tymal Mills, not many IPL players will join PSL even in October; let alone couple of months before IPL auction. Now, arranging PSL in JAN-FEB means PCB is calling competition from International cricket & other domestics on top of IPL. Overlapping with IPL means, it's 8X8 International players missed for IPL, that's excludes Indians who won't come either way & at least 40 Internationals who are certain for IPL contract, so basically loss of 10 or at most 15 above average players, who could have played PSL despite IPL contract - rest all are available for entire PSL period, dedicated & committed to prove themselves.

If it's taken as a business tactics, I'll go for that every time - PCB'll take it as an ego lose out to BCCI; basically the reason, why instead of being 3rd strongest board in World, PCB is comparable to WICB & SLCB & BCB .... and a laughing stalk like calling players from all over the world for a fitness test.

 

[Gubol123]

Ewen Lewis is sure to attract lot of interest in upcoming IPL auction. I will be shock if he doesnt get IPL contract.

To your earlier comment regarding BD players, i must say IPL owners are bit obssessed with SA/Aussie players maybe due to the coaches are mostly Aussie/Saffas. Apart from that, even Ipl fans want to see more Aussie/Saffa players and arent exactly inclined to watch Sakib/Mushfiqr/Mortaza etc. Not sure the reason behind lot of disinterest for BD players, but maybe has to do with all the controversies surrounded during WC 15 match and also during Wt20 game where Musfiqr pre celebrated and also posted a tweet when India lost a match against WI. There is lot of bitterness among Indian fans due to all these idiotic behaviour by Bd players and fans.

That is because many coaches are Saffers and Aussies. Also, Indians always looked up to those two teams.

 

[Gubol123]

No to sound cocky but Even if BPL and PSL form a collaboration, dont see it can take on IPL.

IPL will genrates over half a billion every season. Not sure how much does PSL/BPL does but it wont be anywhere closed to it.

In future they can but as of now, I dont see anyone getting closed.

That is something PCB and BCB should explore. Their combined might will surely make it second biggest one not just a distant second but a competent second league

 

[Gubol123]

Lewis was just an example. It's about a tactical call to counter threats in a business.

Either way, if IPL can pay $2mn to Tymal Mills, not many IPL players will join PSL even in October; let alone couple of months before IPL auction. Now, arranging PSL in JAN-FEB means PCB is calling competition from International cricket & other domestics on top of IPL. Overlapping with IPL means, it's 8X8 International players missed for IPL, that's excludes Indians who won't come either way & at least 40 Internationals who are certain for IPL contract, so basically loss of 10 or at most 15 above average players, who could have played PSL despite IPL contract - rest all are available for entire PSL period, dedicated & committed to prove themselves.

If it's taken as a business tactics, I'll go for that every time - PCB'll take it as an ego lose out to BCCI; basically the reason, why instead of being 3rd strongest board in World, PCB is comparable to WICB & SLCB & BCB .... and a laughing stalk like calling players from all over the world for a fitness test.

Well said. that is what i have been saying. PCB needs forget about losing out to BCCI and think about making their league better. Holding PSL in IPL virtual window will allow them to do that

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

That is something PCB and BCB should explore. Their combined might will surely make it second biggest one not just a distant second but a competent second league

We are already on course to be 2nd biggest. Don't need bangla boys who refuse to tour us.

 

[MMHS]

That is because many coaches are Saffers and Aussies. Also, Indians always looked up to those two teams.

That may be one reason, but not the main reason. If I were an IPL director, being a proud Bangladeshi, I won't have hired many BD players either. It's not about the quality only, rather type of players.

IPL being hosted in IND, there are many, many players in India itself who are good batsmen like Sabbir, Mushi, Nasir, Mosaddek, Soumya or Momin... and they also can bowl a bit spin or medium pace. Therefore, instead of blocking International quota, I would have picked the Iqbal Abdullah's & Parvez Rasuls ..... and pick pace bowlers or fast bowling all rounders & hard hitting batsmen. If IPL was regularly hosted in U.K. - I can bet that Tymal Mills (no disrespect) won't have been even sold - Ashok Dinda was an adequate alternative.

 

[MMHS]

We are already on course to be 2nd biggest. Don't need bangla boys who refuse to tour us.

This thought process didn't go well in history & it would make PAK even more isolated - but it's your choice & I happy for that.

 

[Gubol123]

We are already on course to be 2nd biggest. Don't need bangla boys who refuse to tour us.

yeah, PSL could become second biggest. but it will be very distant second. with BCB you can actually compete with IPL

 

[Gubol123]

yeah, PSL could become second biggest. but it will be very distant second. with BCB you can actually compete with IPL

I personally think BCB is in a better shape to make their league better than PSL.

 

[CanadianG00se]

That may be one reason, but not the main reason. If I were an IPL director, being a proud Bangladeshi, I won't have hired many BD players either. It's not about the quality only, rather type of players.

IPL being hosted in IND, there are many, many players in India itself who are good batsmen like Sabbir, Mushi, Nasir, Mosaddek, Soumya or Momin... and they also can bowl a bit spin or medium pace. Therefore, instead of blocking International quota, I would have picked the Iqbal Abdullah's & Parvez Rasuls ..... and pick pace bowlers or fast bowling all rounders & hard hitting batsmen. If IPL was regularly hosted in U.K. - I can bet that Tymal Mills (no disrespect) won't have been even sold - Ashok Dinda was an adequate alternative.

That is so true. Normally, utility players and quality bowlers attract lot of interest in IPL. Players like Morris, Stokes, Maxwell, Sakib, Russel, D Bravo, C Anderson, S Watson, M Marsh, Q DeCock, J Butler, Narine. etc are suitable for T20 cricket and often are sold for high prices. Whereas some batsmen are left unsold as they can easily be replaced by locals.
Its a trend that Bowlers and allrounders(Wk batsmen) fetch far more cash than pure batsmen with exception to players like Gayle, AbD.
Players like Hassan Ali, M Amir would fetch millions had there was no 'unofficial ban' on Pakistani players.

 

[CanadianG00se]

yeah, PSL could become second biggest. but it will be very distant second. with BCB you can actually compete with IPL

When you talk about competing, on what factors do you mean that?
Financially? Fan following?

 

[Gubol123]

When you talk about competing, on what factors do you mean that?
Financially? Fan following?

Both. BD+Pak population is approximately 30% of India. BD is doing well economically and their board is professional. PCB is the laggard. If both boards work together they can achieve 40% fan following of IPL.. Finances will follow as Indian companies have exposure to BD and BD themselves have lots of sponsors

 

[MMHS]

Both. BD+Pak population is approximately 30% of India. BD is doing well economically and their board is professional. PCB is the laggard. If both boards work together they can achieve 40% fan following of IPL.. Finances will follow as Indian companies have exposure to BD and BD themselves have lots of sponsors

Doesn't work that way - it's the volume that matters. Top 1% of India will always be at the highest level on world in any scale. I explained it somewhere else - even in 50s, dollar for dollar in real money Raj Kapoor was paid close to Clarke Gable; in ppp, he was by far highest paid actor in world. Similarly, Chinese league for their sheddy football which even majority Chinese don't watch can pay Hulk $1mn/week.

I put it this way - if every "interested" middle class is ready to pay 1$ for cricket - IPL will have 1 billion for 8 teams; PSL will have 100mn at most. This is why Newzeland people are rich, but not NZ Govt.

But yes - 8 team Asian super league with 4 from PAK, 2 from BD, 1 from SRL & 1 from Dubai with all players from these countries considered as home grown for open bid - it's possible to create something that can compete IPL to a certain extent ..... that might happen in 2710 AD .... ... after 10th world war.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Both. BD+Pak population is approximately 30% of India. BD is doing well economically and their board is professional. PCB is the laggard. If both boards work together they can achieve 40% fan following of IPL.. Finances will follow as Indian companies have exposure to BD and BD themselves have lots of sponsors

I have to disagree. First of all, adding numbers in this case people will not automatically generate favourable outcome.
Yes, the economy of BD is improving, though not so in case with Pakistan. Secondly, population isn't the only factor for India's dominance in world of cricket(off field). Third, you also need to factor in the investment. For instance, IPL invested huge amount of money for it to become dominant and successful. Lot of billionaires/multi millionaires are involved with IPL which were able to raise the Investment. Now in case with PCB/BD the investment is on lower scale. So, apart from population, you'd also need huge amount of investment. As of now IPL is evaluated at $5.6Billion.

Now, estimate combined value of both PSL and BPL would be around $50Million max. Thats 10% off what IPL evaluation. So, for a colloboration to compete with a firm 10x its size may not be impossible but in economic terms i would say very 'unrealistic'

So, for colloboration to compete, it would require billionaires/multi millionaires to shed tons of cash and raise the value of the league.

For fan following, even combined population of both countries would be less than half the population of India. So, on that front as well there is no serious competition.

Psl/Bpl colloboration at best should try for 2nd spot and shouldnt try for competing IPL not until they have the amount of cash required.

 

[Gubol123]

Doesn't work that way - it's the volume that matters. Top 1% of India will always be at the highest level on world in any scale. I explained it somewhere else - even in 50s, dollar for dollar in real money Raj Kapoor was paid close to Clarke Gable; in ppp, he was by far highest paid actor in world. Similarly, Chinese league for their sheddy football which even majority Chinese don't watch can pay Hulk $1mn/week.

I put it this way - if every "interested" middle class is ready to pay 1$ for cricket - IPL will have 1 billion for 8 teams; PSL will have 100mn at most. This is why Newzeland people are rich, but not NZ Govt.

But yes - 8 team Asian super league with 4 from PAK, 2 from BD, 1 from SRL & 1 from Dubai with all players from these countries considered as home grown for open bid - it's possible to create something that can compete IPL to a certain extent ..... that might happen in 2710 AD .... ... after 10th world war.

Some extent yes. But the combined might of BCB+PCB can surely make it bigger than either one of them playing alone. Caveat is that both of them want to work together. They may not come very close to IPL but sure will come closer together than they are now