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Will Mickey Arthur's "online" Head Coach role work for Pakistan?


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The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is set to appoint former coach, Mickey Arthur, as Pakistan’s team director.

According to media reports, there will no head coach of the side. Instead, PCB is looking to hire assistant coaches for all three facets of the game i.e. batting, bowling and fielding coach, who will work with Arthur.

Former New Zealand cricketer, Grant Bradburn, is likely to take up the role as Pakistan team’s assistant coach. He had previously served as the fielding coach of the Pakistan men's team from 2018 to 2020.

Despite assuming the team’s director position, Arthur will not be with the team during international series that will take place during the English county season, as he will continue to work as the full-time coach for Derbyshire County Cricket Club.

Pakistan will tour Sri Lanka in July for two Tests and take part in Asia Cup in September. Arthur is expected to be unavailable for these assignments, but will join the team for the 2023 World Cup in India and the Australian tour later this year.

Arthur is likely to arrive in Lahore in April and is expected to be with the team during Pakistan’s limited-overs series with New Zealand at home.

In another major development, Islamabad United General Manager, Rehanul Haq, is expected to replace Mansoor Rana as Pakistan’s team manager.

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Apparently Rehan ul Haq's role is vital. He will not be a traditional manager, he will be the chief of staff to Mickey Arthur, he will be the brains behind the entire data driven, strategy, analysis side of things in the dressing room and he will be giving recommendations to both Mickey and Babar.

According to reporters, one of the things that the new PCB hierarchy observed in the Pakistani dressing room was the blind Kudrat Ka Nizam culture, no culture of any discussions on team strategy, opposition match ups, game plans for various match scenarios and this is something the new OCB set up wants to change drastically.
 
Whoa if Rehan ul Haq is truly hired then this would be a great move. He's smart and analytically driven but also understands that there are some things that are better understood by the players in the moment based on their evaluation.

Pakistan might have some proper strategy going into series now instead of being completely brainless and lacking in strategy.
 
I’m serious - who are they?

Haider Azhar is the COO of Multan Sultans
Rehan-ul-Haq (apparently the newly appointed Pakistan team manager) is the General Manager of Islamabad Utd
Hassan Cheema is the Strategy Manager at Islamabad United.
 
Does anyone know abt Grant bradburn? How is he as a coach? Any reviews abt him? What is his coaching philosophy?
Because effectively..he will be actual headcoach of Pak, overseeing the team regularly.. while Mickey wont be there permanently…..Although Grabt bradburn will have the title of assistant coach, but in practice he will be actual head coach.. so any information on him, would be good, if anyone knows
 
What a farce.

A terrible terrible coach like Mickey is being pursued so much that they want him as online 'coach'/director?

What is wrong with Sethi? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
 
Leaders lead their companies while living in other countries. Nawaz Sharif is leading PML-N in Pakistan while living in London.

Why can't Mickey do this virtually?
 
Rehan UL Haq is a great choice. I am surprised tbh. Never expected this, a data driven analyst who looks into match ups and strategies statistically.
 
This will not end well. Pakistan are trying to reinvent the wheel. Hubris.

:ba
 
Rehan UL Haq is a great choice. I am surprised tbh. Never expected this, a data driven analyst who looks into match ups and strategies statistically.

Everyone has a plan, until you are punched in the face Sher Khan
 
It's embarrassing that we've begged mickey to death to coach us again. It's not like he's even that good.
 
Whoa if Rehan ul Haq is truly hired then this would be a great move. He's smart and analytically driven but also understands that there are some things that are better understood by the players in the moment based on their evaluation.

Pakistan might have some proper strategy going into series now instead of being completely brainless and lacking in strategy.

Match ups and analysis are both a gift on a curse. Like most things their use can only be determined by the skill of the users.

I have seen enough interviews with ex pros to realise they only have a superficial understanding of match ups and don't have a clue how to execute dynamic game plans.

I think if you give Babar a bowler like Murali he will refuse to bowl him to a right hander because the 'match ups' say offies are not effective against right handers.

Or if we are by some fluke 170- 1 after 16 overs he would bring in Shan Masood at the fall of a wicket because the match up says Shan is good against bowler X.

I agree that these methods are needed for game planning but if the guy in the middle is a lame duck then there is no point.

Which is why I believe that we need a headmaster style head coach who can help Babar understand how to read the game.
 
It's embarrassing that we've begged mickey to death to coach us again. It's not like he's even that good.

He's actually woeful.

Failed as Pak coach.
Failed badly as SL coach.
Failed as Karachi Kings coach.

...why are we even hiring him?
 
Congratulations Shan Masood, the most mediocre player to ever captain Pakistan.

Mickey Arthur online coach (that too part-time lmao)

Shan Masood secures spot in xi.

Shan Masood being given the captaincy in one of 3 formats.

Umar Akmal will be ignored regardless of his PSL and domestic performances.

Najam Sethi is burning the house down before he gets evicted.
 
I am looking forward to Bradburn and the 3 specialists coaches that will be assigned most of the ground work will be done by them including Rehan.

Mikey is fine as a man manager, mentor which will be more of his role in this tenure, this bizarre arrangement may evrn work for us.
 
Dont want mickey with team. So in a way its good lmao

But honestly our director's first priority ll be a second string county team what a joke
 
Good team management, but the coach.. lol that was pure begging.

Just shows that if Dean jones was alive, PCB would had bought him. He will be missed
 
Matt Busby Alex Ferguson Jose Mourinho Pep Guardiola and Now Mickey Arthur a stuff of legends:)))

The infatuation with Micky is inexplicable
 
Former Pakistan head coach Mickey Arthur is likely to return to the Asian side with the same responsibility but with a twist. If reports are believed to be true, Arthur is all set to become the first ever online coach of a cricket team when takes by the coaching duties for Pakistan, but will be available in person during the impending ODI World Cup in India later this year. Reacting to the reports, former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi was left completely baffled while he also questioned PCB's logic behind a foreign coach.

According to the reports on Pakistan's bizarre arrangement, Arthur will continue with his incumbent role the head coach of the Derbyshire County Cricket Club while also mentoring the Pakistan cricket side via online. He will however have an assistant on the ground as in his absence to coach the side.

Afridi, who had recently completed the role as an interim chief selector of the Pakistan side, was left baffled on hearing the reports. He said, "Well even I don't know what type of coaching will happen or what the plan is. The concept of online coaching by a foreign coach for the national team is beyond comprehension."

The former Pakistan all-rounder was also left furious at PCB targeting foreign coaches as he felt that Pakistan has a lot of able veteran cricketers who can coach the national side.

"Why only foreign coaches? Pakistan do have good coaches here. I know PCB also takes into consideration where the person is presently involved in politics. But all those should be kept aside in cricket so that we get a person who can take the tough calls which eventually makes a good team.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...y-arthur-as-online-coach-101675088878420.html
 
I actually think Mickey made positive contributions in his first stint with player development and transforming our brand of white ball cricket, even if results didn't always reflect it. You only have to listen to what the likes of Babar say about his influence.

However I'm not a fan of reinventing the wheel like this, virtual sessions are no substitute for face-to-face interaction with a coach. Another way they could've done this is give Grant Bradburn the official title, while Mickey oversees the coaches, academies, A team and selectors in a more administrative role like Rob Key who's England's MD.

However I like the inclusion of Rehan ul-Haq who is a very sensible analyst and it seems we're finally moving into the 21st Century in terms of using data to form strategies instead of relying on qudrat ka nizam.
 
The lines of accountability have become very blurred.

If results go south (well, even worse than present) then who takes responsibility ? Do you sack Mickey even though he's not even with the side, do you replace the specialist coaches, Rehan, Babar or Sethi for ultimately putting this arrangement in place ?
 
We need a thread on why pakistan is desperate to have mickey
 
Setting up for failure with this head coach situation.

Offline coach? :))) wouldn’t it be an online coach?

You need a coach in the dugout during series. Can’t replace him with a laptop. Imagine a chief surgeon attending to his duties via zoom.

I’ve seen online coaching work for casual players or kids. These guys are not casuals or kids.

We do need a lot of work on our fielding, so it’s good that the assistant coach specializes in it.
 
Look, I don’t like this arrangement anymore than the rest of you. It also sets a bad precedent for future foreign coaches, when it comes to bargaining power.

However, what’re the alternative choices? Which other foreign coach is realistically available that has a better CV than Mickey?

Personally, I feel the PCB had three options:

1) Going for a highly rated County/shield coach, for whom the Pakistan gig would be the next step up. Clearly this requires research and long term strategic thinking, a process not really associated with the PCB.

2) Going for a local candidate. We’ve already been scarred by Waqar and Misbah. Inzi has previous experience coaching Afghanistan, but hasn’t done his badges or coached in years. Azhar Mahmood is developing well as ISLU head coach, and Surrey and Desert Vipers bowling coach. However he needs more experience to fully flesh out his skills. No other decent candidates exist.

3) Online coach Mickey.

They went with no.3 . 1) would have been an interesting choice, but you need a strong head coach to change the dressing room environment. Which is why they chose Mickey.
 
Heard the role is something like Director of Cricket aka online Head coach , not sure if its true..

Mickey - Director of cricket
Bradburn - Assistant coach (acting Head coach in Mickey's absence)
Rehan ul Haq - Team manager
Batting , Bowling and Fielding coach - Mickey is given the power to select his own support staff..
 
Not sure whats in Mickeys mind but surely no more friends 11 and friendship , chai , bhai , sab tikay culture..
 
Shadab will be captain soon if Rehan Haq comes in as manager they are best friends
 
The concern has to be, will this work with Mickey not around for several months of the year.

It's all well and good having assistant coaches, but the boss surely has to be around?
 
I think Mickey will see this till the World Cup and aus tour.

If results are good he will leave Derbyshire and come full time to Pakistan however if he struggles in these two important assignments then he will excuse himself from this role and stick with his county job.
 
Everything sounds good besides the idea of Mickey being the online coach. Nonsensical idea. He is nowhere near that important or good for PCB to throw money at him while he can't even leave his job for a second division English county team.

There are numerous other competent foreign coaches that you could probably get for less money and who would actually be with the team full-time. As opposed to whatever the hell this is.
 
What's an "offline" coach? LOL.

It would be interesting to see how this pans out.
 
I think Mickey will see this till the World Cup and aus tour.

If results are good he will leave Derbyshire and come full time to Pakistan however if he struggles in these two important assignments then he will excuse himself from this role and stick with his county job.

I think you are forgetting that Mickey is the coach, and not the new Supreme Leader of the PCB. If results in Australia and World Cup go poorly then he should be held accountable. Because it will be his selections and team combinations that will be responsible for our successes or failures.
 
if new government comes after elections , and after the CWC (unless if they win it ) this drama will be over...

Mickey will be happy and content being the WC coach twice for Pakistan...
 
I think you are forgetting that Mickey is the coach, and not the new Supreme Leader of the PCB. If results in Australia and World Cup go poorly then he should be held accountable. Because it will be his selections and team combinations that will be responsible for our successes or failures.

I think it can work if the assistant coach himself is a strong authoritative figure who commands respect.

I’d almost see it as, Mickey is a part time coach. It’s important that roles and responsibilities are clearly defined when this happens, in that the head coach and assistant head coach don’t step on each others toes.

That said, I’m also skeptical of this arrangement.
 
Next we will hear that team will only play online cricket in cricket 2022 game on PS5.
Lol...
 
I think Mickey will see this till the World Cup and aus tour.

If results are good he will leave Derbyshire and come full time to Pakistan however if he struggles in these two important assignments then he will excuse himself from this role and stick with his county job.

Why would he leave? We have begged him to join us when no other international team would even consider him.

Mickey will ride this out until he is pushed and will have the convenient excuse of "online coach" to fall back on.

Mickey cannot lose. He will make a boatload of money from having two jobs and expectations will be rock bottom due to the nature of the role.
 
The disasturous reign of Najam Sethi is coming clear:

- Shan Masood as VC
- Scrapping Afghanistan ODI's
- "Online coach"
- Haroon 'dinosaur' Rashid as Chief Selector

Sethi is there with his cronies to squeeze every bit of juice out of the PCB before it burns to the ground.

And to think there's some people who celebrated his appointment.
 
This is a new level of WFH.

I dunno what these guys are doing. Its not like theres no other coach besides Mickey in the world.
 
Salman Butt:

"The PCB is not so helpless that it has to look for online coaches. This can't be true. As per my understanding, he [Mickey Arthur] could come in as a consultant or conduct a couple of sessions with the team. Having an online coach or team director is beyond me."

"The PCB will have to first clarify if it is an online coaching or an online team director role. When you are the head of any organization or leading it, you ought to go deep."You must be aware of all the internal affairs, which in this case is Pakistan's domestic cricket. You have to be a part of it in such a way that you are accustomed to it. You have to know everything before taking decisions."

"Coaching from home is practically not possible"

"It makes me think of the COVID-19 times, because of the work-from-home thing. Coaching from home is practically not possible. It's an international sport that is very competitive. There are a lot of complexities involved, and you need to be present, and also has to be certain communication, which is not possible in this [Mickey Arthur] case."
 
Apparently Rehan ul Haq's role is vital. He will not be a traditional manager, he will be the chief of staff to Mickey Arthur, he will be the brains behind the entire data driven, strategy, analysis side of things in the dressing room and he will be giving recommendations to both Mickey and Babar.

Good to hear. He has been doing a fine job with IU with regards to data driven approach, so a well deserved call up.
 
Grant Bradburn was a disappointment as a fielding coach although he had a good stint as Scotland's head coach.

There are so many good coaching names in the world that PCB could have gone for, but the obsession with Mickey is baffling and laughable.

Won't be surprised if Grant Flower makes a comeback as batting coach.
 
Grant Bradburn was a disappointment as a fielding coach although he had a good stint as Scotland's head coach.

There are so many good coaching names in the world that PCB could have gone for, but the obsession with Mickey is baffling and laughable.

Won't be surprised if Grant Flower makes a comeback as batting coach.

They did their best to get Langer and Gillespie. Don’t tell me Andy Flower is a good coach but Pakistan asked him too

What are they supposed to do once they’ve done their best to acquire the best coach?
 
They did their best to get Langer and Gillespie. Don’t tell me Andy Flower is a good coach but Pakistan asked him too

What are they supposed to do once they’ve done their best to acquire the best coach?

Gillespie was never an option.

He's already contracted with South Australia and had no interest in working for PCB at this time.
 
Gillespie was never an option.

He's already contracted with South Australia and had no interest in working for PCB at this time.

But he made a statement about not being available for the Pakistan job, so he was contacted or asked about the job by someone

Honestly, this really is Waseem Khan and Ehsan Mani’s fault. Could also be Imran Khan as well.

You had momentum/credibility to hire an overseas coach after having Mickey at the job for 3 years. Once they fell off and went the Pakistan coach root, it was always going to be a massive up hill task convincing a top coach for the role.

Ramiz further fluffed it for us by just keeping Saqlain on an easy retainer as well.
 
We deserve to beg to mickey, after what misbah did was pathetic. We shouldn't have released mickey in first place.
 
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They did their best to get Langer and Gillespie. Don’t tell me Andy Flower is a good coach but Pakistan asked him too

What are they supposed to do once they’ve done their best to acquire the best coach?

There were likes of Hathurusingha, Stuart Law, Simon Katich, Steve Rhodes, Greg Blewett, Andy Waller, Paul Wiseman, Phil Simmons, Ray Jennings, Andy Griffith, John Wright etc etc.

PCB was simply fixated on Mickey Arthur.
 
Sethi has made a smart choice. Mickey is familiar with the Pakistani players, PCB officials, Pakistani culture and PCB culture in general. A brand new coach will take time to adjust to these things.
 
Mickey will "coach" the team while getting tanned at the beach and counting his $$$

I know it's pretty cool to be first at something, but THIS???? LMAO!!
So he'll be relaying the messages during a match through texts and SMS?
Some roles need to be in person, and a coach of a cricket team is definitely one of them.
 
There were likes of Hathurusingha, Stuart Law, Simon Katich, Steve Rhodes, Greg Blewett, Andy Waller, Paul Wiseman, Phil Simmons, Ray Jennings, Andy Griffith, John Wright etc etc.

PCB was simply fixated on Mickey Arthur.

How do you know that? Yes they were fixated on Mickey but how do you know they didn’t try those names? Also, these names were well aware of the vacancy but never gave any hints or interest. It’s a $200-300k a year job, that’s plenty good money for those names
 
Online coach? So Mickey will watch the match on tv and call the players about their performance?
 
Now geo is reporting that Yasir Arafat will be bowling coach of Pak, and he will also be assistant to Mickey Arthur and will be coaching staff head in Mickey’s absence..

What happened to Grant Bradburn then? Is he not coming? Yasir can be a good choice as bowling coach but grant bradburn is definitely a better choice as assistant head coach and be coaching staff head in Mickey’s absence
 
"I can’t stand misbehaviour from anyone and I am not stupid": Wasim Akram

Wasim Akram in an interview:

"I can accept criticism if the team is not doing well. But in Pakistan cricket, it is intolerable the way the captain and coaches are not only criticised but also abused by everyone,"

"The abuse and at times hate which the captain and coach have to bear, I don't think I am up to it. I don't have that tolerance level, especially when it comes to the use of social media. They are some people who I think only sit on Twitter day and night to send out negative comments."

"League cricket is different, the pressure and expectation levels are different, which is why I am involved with the Karachi Kings side in the PSL."

"I am always willing to be of service to Pakistan cricket but not at the cost of having to bear unnecessary criticism and abuse from anyone out there."
 
Ramiz Raja speaking on his YT channel

“I think this has been massively mishandled because this concept won’t work. This is an ego-driven decision because they don’t want to accept what the previous board has done. You are allowed to formulate your own strategy but that doesn’t mean that you belittle local coaches and stars,”

“I think this is a futile exercise and will massively backfire"

Raja also hoped that skipper Babar Azam was consulted before such a decision was made.

“I don’t whether he has talked about this or not but Babar Azam, despite being easy going, has very strong views on certain things. I hope he was consulted before such a step was taken"
 
Ramiz Raja speaking on his YT channel

“I think this has been massively mishandled because this concept won’t work. This is an ego-driven decision because they don’t want to accept what the previous board has done. You are allowed to formulate your own strategy but that doesn’t mean that you belittle local coaches and stars,”

“I think this is a futile exercise and will massively backfire"

Raja also hoped that skipper Babar Azam was consulted before such a decision was made.

“I don’t whether he has talked about this or not but Babar Azam, despite being easy going, has very strong views on certain things. I hope he was consulted before such a step was taken"
The previous board did nothing

Which overseas coach did they make an effort to hire?
 
Way too much Emphasis on the coach is, it’s the same players, what Mickey will do while being with them physically or on zoom does not matter one iota, our performances and all will remain the same. We are still the same mediocre average side and having Mickey as online coach or not won’t change this.
 
Damning from Usman Khawaja:

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Australian batter and one of the casualties of the infamous 'homeworkgate' saga during the 2013 series in India, Usman Khawaja, has castigated the team management on that tour, saying "their priorities were a bit wrong", and the side was more worried about ticking boxes than actually doing well in the series. (More Cricket News)

Following two heavy defeats to India at Chennai and Hyderabad, Khawaja was looking forward to his debut in the third Test at Mohali when he was summoned for a meeting with then-captain Michael Clarke, coach Mickey Arthur and team manager Gavin Dovey.

The Pakistan-born cricketer, then 26, along with three others -- James Pattinson, Mitchell Johnson and Shane Watson -- was suspended for one match for not submitting a 'homework' assigned by the coach.

The players were assigned to give in writing answers to queries on ways to improve the team's performance, and the four did not submit their replies in time.

Recalling the episode on the eve of the first Test at Nagpur, Khawaja said, "Our priorities at the time were a bit wrong. We were more worried about the box-ticking stuff for players, rather than actually 'hey, are we a skilful team'."

The cricketer, who has since cemented his place in the Test side, said it had left a bitter taste in his mouth and he never wanted to be a part of the Australian dressing room.

With Khawaja set to play his first Test in India after coming so close in 2013, he says at that point in time, coach Arthur was trying to prioritise everything other than being better rivals on the field.

"All the coaching and support staff with Mickey (Arthur) at the top were trying to concentrate on all the other things, but that wasn't the reason we were losing," Khawaja told 'Sydney Morning Herald' on Wednesday.

He added that at that time, India were more skilful than Australia, which is why the visitors lost all four Tests in the series.

"At that point, we weren't a more skilful team than India, and that's why we lost. We didn't lose because we weren't fitter than them, we didn't lose because we weren't a better fielding side than them, we were just not as skilful as they (India) were."

Khawaja said following the incident, the feeling he got inside the dressing room was that he was an "outsider".

"It was already tough enough for a new guy to fit in the team. And when something like this happens, it just made you feel like you were more of an outsider."

Khawaja said that he wasn't sure he wanted to be in the same environment when he returned to the side. But he has steeled himself ever since and emerged a far more stronger cricketer.

"When I came back, I really wasn't sure whether I wanted to be in that environment again, because the environment wasn't fun. But whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, so you're always better off for it at some level," he added.

The prolific middle-order batter then promised himself he will not let his happiness be dictated by the game.

"I made a pact with myself that I refused to let my happiness in my life just be dictated by cricket. That early stage, 10 years ago almost now, I said back then I'm not going to let them dictate my happiness, there's more to life than cricket.

"I'm going to train, do everything I can to become a better player, but in the end the results of the game aren't going to dictate whether I'm happy or not. I think that's where it started."

https://www.outlookindia.com/sports...y-arthur-had-got-priorities-wrong-news-260442
 
"All the coaching and support staff with Mickey (Arthur) at the top were trying to concentrate on all the other things, but that wasn't the reason we were losing," Khawaja told 'Sydney Morning Herald' on Wednesday.

The homeworkgate episode would work on Pakistani cricketers who would just do anything for the coach and wouldn't bat an eyelid if they had to do such things.

Aussie cricketers though - well they are a different kettle of fish.
 
Online coach? Wow just when you thought PCB couldn't get any more stupid. Judging by most of the players as well are they going to be online as well? :))
 
There might be a misunderstanding here?

Maybe the online stuff will be Mickey talking to his team of coaches rather than doing online coaching of the players perhaps?
 
In a press conference in Karachi, Najam Sethi:

"We are in talks with Mickey. Things are almost final with him"

"He will also bring supporting staff with him. We are expecting things to be finalised in next few days"
 
Further from Najam Sethi on this topic:

“Chief Selector Haroon Rasheed is working with Arthur to finalise the names of the support staff that will work with the national team"

“He knows out cricket culture and set-up and is respected by the players"

“As soon as things are finalised, I will ask Mickey to fly down to Pakistan for a meet so that we can get things moving forward"
 
Silence.

No updates, nothing.

PCB's plan was to have Mickey Arthur overseeing the coaches, with Bradburn as the main man, Neil McKenzie as the batting coach and Yasir Arafat as the bowing coach.
 
Crushing 8 wicket defeat in the County Championship for Mickey Arthur's Derbyshire against Worcestershire.
 
In a press conference in Karachi, Najam Sethi:

"We are in talks with Mickey. Things are almost final with him"

"He will also bring supporting staff with him. We are expecting things to be finalised in next few days"

Sethi needs to learn not to open his mouth until it's all final.
 
Sounds like they are goona connect an iPhone to one of those robots that Micky can control from England. This way he can be physically present in the metaverse during the NZ series.
 
Sethi needs to learn not to open his mouth until it's all final.

It was interesting that there was no mention of Mickey in the recent press release by PCB.

What I've heard is that Mickey will be going to Pakistan in 2 weeks to finalise things.
 
This entire arrangement, including the other coaching staff, all feels very second-choice plan-B. Not a positive message before a WC and tour of Australia
 
Not a great start at Derbyshire so far this season.

Struggling in the County Championship and lost both games in the T20 Blast.
 
Not a great start at Derbyshire so far this season.

Struggling in the County Championship and lost both games in the T20 Blast.

Failing with Derbyshire, not sure how he can simultaneously succeed with Pakistan.
 
Oh dear.

Another loss for Derbyshire today.

This is becoming a horror season for them.
 
The players are very comfortable and happy with Mickey Arthur, Grant Badburn, Andrew Puttick and Morne Morkel. Some coaches are just a better fit for certain teams vs the others.
 
Seems Mickey now online coach for Derbyshire - but his side being thrashed in the County Championship!
 
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