PCB to approach ICC Disputes Resolution Committee over compensation claim against BCCI [Update #17]

[sachin100]

okay, so let Pakistan get nothing. Why are Indian fans so ruffled up every time Pakistan tries something whether its with the ICC or somewhere else??

Because it is related to bcci and as fans can we not react to our own board being dragged by pcb?

 

[USofA]

Exactly. So how does every Indian and their grandmother know the MOU had a government clause in it (as claimed a trillion times)? PCB has the MOU and if they keep referring to it, it probably means there is something in there that makes their case a little more plausible than BCCI. Don't you think? Or are they lying about because PCB officials are crooks and BCCI officials are professionals?

I don't care if we get a series with India or not. The crap shared by Indian fans is nauseating. Let PCB make all the noise and fail...don't get how Indian fans know all the details of this MOU and PCB doesn't.

This is exactly the issue I have with the PCB. They have been all talk but zero action so far. It has been this way for what 2-3 years?

 

[sshakir411]

as i said, BCCI doesn't care about the MOU. it was signed for big three election. BCCI knew they cannot tour until they have GOI permission. they put that clause in there and singed MOU. now there is no big three, and as far as BCCI is concerned the MOU is dead. But PCB holds on to it as huge amount of their TV rights are dependent on India tour. so they have everything to gain and BCCI everything to lose (if PCB goes to court and wins it). so only PCB has any reason to make it public.. BCCI has none

finally, an Indian fan that agrees BCCI is full of SNAKES. I'm sure it makes you feel proud but PCB will make India pay for it..either now or in 10 years.

 

[Gubol123]

Exactly. So how does every Indian and their grandmother know the MOU had a government clause in it (as claimed a trillion times)

because BCCI told so and PCB has not denied it

PCB has the MOU and if they keep referring to it, it probably means there is something in there that makes their case a little more plausible than BCCI. Don't you think? Or are they lying about because PCB officials are crooks and BCCI officials are professionals?

i don't think so. if there was something they would have gone to court or made it public. they are keeping it to themselves because whatever card they have is not worth betting on

I don't care if we get a series with India or not. The crap shared by Indian fans is nauseating. Let PCB make all the noise and fail...don't get how Indian fans know all the details of this MOU and PCB doesn't.

again no one knows details. we only know what BCCI and PCB made it public. if there is something more than that and BCCI is being dishonest, it is PCB job to show it to the world and demand its pound of flesh. as of now they are just repeatedly demanding/begging for their pound of flesh without showing their card

Let me make one thing clear, if PCB is being wronged, i support BCCI carrying out their commitments. But we don't know what is in that MOU.. so we are all walking blind here.. only PCB has vested interest to make it public.

 

[sshakir411]

This is exactly the issue I have with the PCB. They have been all talk but zero action so far. It has been this way for what 2-3 years?

Yes, their avenues are seriously limited. The issue is there is no jurisdiction over such things and ICC doesn't want to get involved. So Pakistan is trying whatever it can by making whatever statements they can.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Exactly. So how does every Indian and their grandmother know the MOU had a government clause in it (as claimed a trillion times)? PCB has the MOU and if they keep referring to it, it probably means there is something in there that makes their case a little more plausible than BCCI. Don't you think? Or are they lying about because PCB officials are crooks and BCCI officials are professionals?

I don't care if we get a series with India or not. The crap shared by Indian fans is nauseating. Let PCB make all the noise and fail...don't get how Indian fans know all the details of this MOU and PCB doesn't.

Look i can understand why a Pakistani fan would be mad about MOU saga. We all are just speculating about what outside of BCCI-PCB no one knows of. As many posters here have stated, PCB should go public and expose BCCI, and let everyone see the MOU and perhaps we can then have better understanding.

For a second, lets assume that so called MOU had a clause of 'Subject to Govt approval' and was accepted by both parties. From recent news and sources, it is learnt that BCCI tried getting Govt permission but it was denied publicly by External Affairs and also Ministry of Foreign affairs(proof can be found on Twitter). BCCI have no control over Govt regulations and nor can be held responsible for it. If PCB thinks that they have been duped then by all means expose BCCI and/or file a case in court(s) of India. Until then its all speculation and both parties are right and wrong depending on how you look at it.

 

[Gubol123]

finally, an Indian fan that agrees BCCI is full of SNAKES. I'm sure it makes you feel proud but PCB will make India pay for it..either now or in 10 years.

and where did i say BCCI is full of snakes? Good luck to PCB making BCCI pay.. if PCB has been wronged they are within their rights to go to court of law and demand compensation. All PCB has done in the last years is to host press conference on that subject.

 

[Gubol123]

Look i can understand why a Pakistani fan would be mad about MOU saga. We all are just speculating about what outside of BCCI-PCB no one knows of. As many posters here have stated, PCB should go public and expose BCCI, and let everyone see the MOU and perhaps we can then have better understanding.

For a second, lets assume that so called MOU had a clause of 'Subject to Govt approval' and was accepted by both parties. From recent news and sources, it is learnt that BCCI tried getting Govt permission but it was denied publicly by External Affairs and also Ministry of Foreign affairs(proof can be found on Twitter). BCCI have no control over Govt regulations and nor can be held responsible for it. If PCB thinks that they have been duped then by all means expose BCCI and/or file a case in court(s) of India. Until then its all speculation and both parties are right and wrong depending on how you look at it.

I think said the same in the above posts. not sure why sshakir411 is so upset. if you think you guys have been wronged either go to court of law or to court of public perception. All PCB is doing is holding press conference.

Also, why is PCB getting into these situations? among cricket playing nations they have rich cricket history and second largest population which is cricket crazy. Why do they have to depend on Indian tour. They should be in a position to say go to hell to BCCI and stand on their own two legs..

 

[sshakir411]

because BCCI told so and PCB has not denied it


i don't think so. if there was something they would have gone to court or made it public. they are keeping it to themselves because whatever card they have is not worth betting on


again no one knows details. we only know what BCCI and PCB made it public. if there is something more than that and BCCI is being dishonest, it is PCB job to show it to the world and demand its pound of flesh. as of now they are just repeatedly demanding/begging for their pound of flesh without showing their card

Let me make one thing clear, if PCB is being wronged, i support BCCI carrying out their commitments. But we don't know what is in that MOU.. so we are all walking blind here.. only PCB has vested interest to make it public.

No court can do anything in this situation..so I don't know why you keep asking PCB to go to court?

Same thing with going to the public. What, how, why would that do anything? Lets assume PCB is right here, would public pressure make India play? No, it won't.

Why can't BCCI show their card and prove that Pakistan is just begging? Clearly, BCCI choosing to be silent in this indicates there is something it doesn't want to share.

The begging part is a figment of Indians imagination. Pakistan is looking to get what was agreed upon. I don't get why you Indian fans can't digest the fact...even if Pakistan gets nothing, why do you guys get so hurt every time Pakistan says it will do X,Y,or Z regarding this case?

So lets agree that no one knows whether the government clause was part of the MOU or not. PCB might have a vested interest but public pressure isn't going to guarantee a series, so it's stupid to even think of sharing an internal document that probably has details that no board wants being shared with people outside of the organizations.

 

[Gubol123]

PCB ain't going anywhere, so keep losing your crap over it.

who is losing crap. only one losing is you and your board. Left to themselves BCCI won't even remember about it let alone talk about it. Almost all Indian fans will stare blankly at anyone who brings up the subject as it is not discussed much as it in Pakistan PCB press conferences

 

[Gubol123]

No court can do anything in this situation..so I don't know why you keep asking PCB to go to court?

if no court can do anything about it, it is a worthless sheet of paper. then why hold on to it cry over it?

Same thing with going to the public. What, how, why would that do anything? Lets assume PCB is right here, would public pressure make India play? No, it won't.

Why can't BCCI show their card and prove that Pakistan is just begging? Clearly, BCCI choosing to be silent in this indicates there is something it doesn't want to share.

again, what does BCCI gain by showing it? As i mentioned earlier BCCI treats PCB like a pest and wants it to go way. why would it bring up something it signed with it? PCB has everything to gain and they are the only ones talking about it. so if anything has to be done, it has to be done from their side. PCB is accusing BCCI of breaking MOU and contract and the onus is on the accuser to prove guilt. The defendant can just sit silent and do nothing, that is how the courts work

The begging part is a figment of Indians imagination. Pakistan is looking to get what was agreed upon. I don't get why you Indian fans can't digest the fact...even if Pakistan gets nothing, why do you guys get so hurt every time Pakistan says it will do X,Y,or Z regarding this case?

So lets agree that no one knows whether the government clause was part of the MOU or not. PCB might have a vested interest but public pressure isn't going to guarantee a series, so it's stupid to even think of sharing an internal document that probably has details that no board wants being shared with people outside of the organizations.

No one knows what was agreed upon under what conditions unless someone makes the MOU public. Only one talking about MOU is PCB and they are accusing BCCI of cheating them. So it is on PCB to prove its accusation.

 

[Yossarian]

Why would an average Indian care about what neutral fans have 'Perceptions' about BCCI/India?

BCCI's responsibility lies towards Indian players and its public, they dont give a damn what neutrals will think of them.

An 'average Indian' wouldn't care - correct.
However, when a country, a government, is trying to create a positive view of itself to the rest of the world, especially a 3rd world developing nation, then any negative perceptions of itself, of its institutions, of it's people, is always of concern. Especially when that perception stems from its major sport and it's superstar sportsmen.

Don't forget, many countries pump vast amounts of money into their national sports just so that international sporting achievements can be used to showcase the country in a positive light, with sports stars acting as sporting ambassadors.

 

[sshakir411]

who is losing crap. only one losing is you and your board. Left to themselves BCCI won't even remember about it let alone talk about it. Almost all Indian fans will stare blankly at anyone who brings up the subject as it is not discussed much as it in Pakistan PCB press conferences

You're the one losing it. I never even initiated conversation with you..and in almost 10-15 posts of yours that have been directed to me..you seem to be repeating the same crap in every damn time.. Quit getting so hurt if PCB makes statements...you or BCCI aren't don't have to pay a single cent every time someone in the PCB opens their mouth on this issue.

 

[Gubol123]

Yes, their avenues are seriously limited. The issue is there is no jurisdiction over such things and ICC doesn't want to get involved.

so they are basically holding a worthless of sheet of paper and crying victim? So they signed a worthless document and hoped that would bring lots of money? If it was such an important document they should have ensured it was legal and someone had jurisdiction over it.

So Pakistan is trying whatever it can by making whatever statements they can.

So all they are doing now is throw some tantrum and hope someone gives them candy

 

[Gubol123]

You're the one losing it. I never even initiated conversation with you..and in almost 10-15 posts of yours that have been directed to me..you seem to be repeating the same crap in every damn time.. Quit getting so hurt if PCB makes statements...you or BCCI aren't don't have to pay a single cent every time someone in the PCB opens their mouth on this issue.

conversation by definition means two persons talking. this is a public forum. if you are not interested to hold a discussion you are free to stop replying

 

[sshakir411]

At least Indian fans have FINALLY agreed they don't know what was in the MOU. That is a good start after claiming for years that MOU included GoI clearance as a condition.

 

[sshakir411]

so they are basically holding a worthless of sheet of paper and crying victim? So they signed a worthless document and hoped that would bring lots of money? If it was such an important document they should have ensured it was legal and someone had jurisdiction over it.



So all they are doing now is throw some tantrum and hope someone gives them candy

seems like you get hurt if PCB throws a tantrum. Why so?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Whatever the reason (and there are plenty of others in addition to the ones mentioned, including some, allegedly, behind closed doors at ICC meetings), the point is that there is a question of credibility and trusting the word of BCCI, there is a growing resentment against the BCCI (even though, as mentioned earlier, no one will act upon any of it due to the lure of money). That in turn leads to a negative perception of India (even if only through the lens of cricket).

Now, Indian fans may not see this due to patriotism, but be assured (to use a phrase often used in reference to Americans) "The BCCI (and by inference Indian cricketers) is the most disliked, but most welcomed, by everyone"

Not playing Pakistan is a govt of India policy decision not a BCCI decision.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You certainly don't know what was in the MOU so don't assume seeking permission from parents was part of it. If it was, then why doesn't BCCI come out and make it clear so PCB has no reason to take this further?
Clearly, the fact that BCCI hasn't come forward and shared the details of the MOU is reason enough to believe that was not part of it.

Has PCB come out with the details of the MoU?

BCCI says govt permission part of it.

http://www.news18.com/cricketnext/a...-due-to-lack-of-formal-agreement-1398629.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

An 'average Indian' wouldn't care - correct.
However, when a country, a government, is trying to create a positive view of itself to the rest of the world, especially a 3rd world developing nation, then any negative perceptions of itself, of its institutions, of it's people, is always of concern. Especially when that perception stems from its major sport and it's superstar sportsmen.

Don't forget, many countries pump vast amounts of money into their national sports just so that international sporting achievements can be used to showcase the country in a positive light, with sports stars acting as sporting ambassadors.

LMAO.India's perception doesnot depend on how bcci treats pcb.

And Pakistan may be a third world developing nation,India is a emerging economy.

 

[CanadianG00se]

An 'average Indian' wouldn't care - correct.
However, when a country, a government, is trying to create a positive view of itself to the rest of the world, especially a 3rd world developing nation, then any negative perceptions of itself, of its institutions, of it's people, is always of concern. Especially when that perception stems from its major sport and it's superstar sportsmen.

Don't forget, many countries pump vast amounts of money into their national sports just so that international sporting achievements can be used to showcase the country in a positive light, with sports stars acting as sporting ambassadors.

Im trying hard to wrap my head around what you're trying to say. So, you're implying that India boycotting Pakistan in cricket is having negative influence among neutrals?
I honestly dont think that negative perception is gonna have even slightest impact on India.

You're right about countries heavily investing in sport(s) to have competitve advantage over rivals and ofcourse to showcase their economic strength. But here Pakistan isnt pumping money, rather they are demanding a series with India. Two different things in my view. Pakistan is independent to earn revenue by any means and use it for its growth. I dont see India complaining about no series with Pakistan. Like PCB, even BCCI is missing out good chunk of cash, but unlike PCB they have managed to cover up that loss via other series/IPL.

PCB should try to tap into their market and be self reliant. Sooner or later they will be rich enough to survive on their own(now that Pakistan can host matches at home) and would also be top 3 richest board.

 

[IndYeah1]

Unless the PCB has made some kind of backroom deal with Giles Clarke, that the ICC is going to side with them, this move is cutting off the nose to spite the face. If PCB officials stop focusing on the short term pain, they will realize that ultimately its in their best interest to keep a positive relationship with the BCCI. By threatening lawsuits, filing disputes, etc they are burning that bridge. When you pick fights with people, they are not going to just turn the other cheek. Expect the BCCI to use any and all leverage it has against the PCB.

 

[Yossarian]

Not playing Pakistan is a govt of India policy decision not a BCCI decision.

LMAO.India's perception doesnot depend on how bcci treats pcb.

And Pakistan may be a third world developing nation,India is a emerging economy.

it's quite telling that whilst I'm referring to:

I repeat again, Indian fans may not see this due to patriotism, but be assured these perceptions are widespread amongst the non-Indian cricketing world

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You however seem to think "non-Indian cricketing world" just means the PCB and Pakistan.

 

[Yossarian]

Im trying hard to wrap my head around what you're trying to say. So, you're implying that India boycotting Pakistan in cricket is having negative influence among neutrals?
I honestly dont think that negative perception is gonna have even slightest impact on India.

You're right about countries heavily investing in sport(s) to have competitve advantage over rivals and ofcourse to showcase their economic strength. But here Pakistan isnt pumping money, rather they are demanding a series with India. Two different things in my view. Pakistan is independent to earn revenue by any means and use it for its growth. I dont see India complaining about no series with Pakistan. Like PCB, even BCCI is missing out good chunk of cash, but unlike PCB they have managed to cover up that loss via other series/IPL.

PCB should try to tap into their market and be self reliant. Sooner or later they will be rich enough to survive on their own(now that Pakistan can host matches at home) and would also be top 3 richest board.

Had you been following my posts in this thread from the outset, you will have noted that I'm not just referring to the tiff between the PCB and BCCI. I opened out the discussion a bit wider.

Here are my first two posts in this thread in that regard. This should (hopefully) give you an idea of where I'm coming from, assuming you read the posts with an open mind (and the fact that I live in the UK, am a UK citizen (albeit of Pakistani descent), and am not always supportive of things Pakistan or Pakistani, but try and take an objective viewpoint if possible).

At the end of the day money talks, and every man (or cricketing board) is for himself.

Having said that, whilst it's correct that no one has the power to force the BCCI to do anything as long as they have the backing of the GoI, there is also the question of credibility.

The BCCI not honoring MOU's, the BCCI throwing it's weight about with other boards regarding touring schedules (eg India's tours to SA) all lead to a growing distrust of, and a resentment against the BCCI (albeit one that will never get acted upon due to the power of money), and a negative imageof the BCCI, and by extension, of India generally.

A negative image of India, through the lens of cricket, is not something that the GoI will be happy with.

Whatever the reason (and there are plenty of others in addition to the ones mentioned, including some, allegedly, behind closed doors at ICC meetings), the point is that there is a question of credibility and trusting the word of BCCI, there is a growing resentment against the BCCI (even though, as mentioned earlier, no one will act upon any of it due to the lure of money). That in turn leads to a negative perception of India (even if only through the lens of cricket).

Now, Indian fans may not see this due to patriotism, but be assured (to use a phrase often used in reference to Americans) "The BCCI (and by inference Indian cricketers) is the most disliked, but most welcomed, by everyone"

 

[cricketjoshila]

it's quite telling that whilst I'm referring to:

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You however seem to think "non-Indian cricketing world" just means the PCB and Pakistan.

Most countries in the world is courting India and that wont change because of PCB or Pakistan.Countries abd boards have their interests to look after.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Had you been following my posts in this thread from the outset, you will have noted that I'm not just referring to the tiff between the PCB and BCCI. I opened out the discussion a bit wider.

Here are my first two posts in this thread in that regard. This should (hopefully) give you an idea of where I'm coming from, assuming you read the posts with an open mind (and the fact that I live in the UK, am a UK citizen (albeit of Pakistani descent), and am not always supportive of things Pakistan or Pakistani, but try and take an objective viewpoint if possible).

I get where are you coming from but you have to understand that other boards/countries will look after their interest. For instance, no matter how much CA/ECB dislikes BCCI but they wouldnt give up doing business with BCCI just because it has caused damaged to PCB. Now tell me outside of PCB and to an extent CSA which board have beef with BCCI? Why would any board would want to upset BCCI just because of PCB?

Now, you talk about general public dislike BCCI, which i agree with you. For past few years fans from around the world been hating on BCCI for some valid reason and some not so. But it didnt really change how BCCI goes on about doing their business. This is why they are very successful organisation. It is because of BCCI now you we see cricketers making millions of dollars. Its because of them now cricketers in 3rd world country that players can actually make a living out of cricket. And it is BCCI that revolutionised the game and brought riches to the game. PCB is just incompetent that they couldn't replicate what BCCI did and are always on the wrongside.
As long there is money involved with India/BCCI, other boards would keep their ego aside and will continue to do business with them. As you yourself pointed out, BCCI may not be likeable bunch but are still most welcome by everyone. For now, PCB have to fight their battle alone until some other board(s) gets tired of BCCI bullying and want to stand up to them.

 

[squarecut]

What has PCB got to offer that other boards will ditch BCCI and join PCB ? The simple answer- nothing. Other boards know it. It is time PCB too realises it.

 

[squarecut]

Negative image in the mind of PCB. I do not think India and any other country bothers about that.

 

[USofA]

Besides all this ever dragging MOU saga, what is surprising is why is PCB's TV deal BCCI dependent and not Pakistan fan dependent.

In fact PCB can take a leaf out of the BCCI book and tap the huge fan following for revenues. I think the PCB is missing a big opportunity here. It's right in front of them. Will make them self sufficient as well. There will no need to drag anyone to court. They can just cast aside the BCCI.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Besides all this ever dragging MOU saga, what is surprising is why is PCB's TV deal BCCI dependent and not Pakistan fan dependent.

In fact PCB can take a leaf out of the BCCI book and tap the huge fan following for revenues. I think the PCB is missing a big opportunity here. It's right in front of them. Will make them self sufficient as well. There will no need to drag anyone to court. They can just cast aside the BCCI.

PCBs deal is BCCI dependent because India is where the money is.India tour is the most lucrative tour for every country except the ashes. Number of fans isnt the only factor in a tv deal.The revenue generation is the factor.Else PCB and BCB will be the richest boards after BCCI.

PCB cannot copy the BCCI because they simply are not the BCCI.How many billion dollar companies in Pakistan are involved in cricket?Will they spend money in AD revenues that will justify the broadcaster paying PCB huge money? The broadcaster will only pay the amount on which he can make a profit and with no way for him to tap into the Indian market he will not pay much.

 

[USofA]

PCBs deal is BCCI dependent because India is where the money is.India tour is the most lucrative tour for every country except the ashes. Number of fans isnt the only factor in a tv deal.The revenue generation is the factor.Else PCB and BCB will be the richest boards after BCCI.

PCB cannot copy the BCCI because they simply are not the BCCI.How many billion dollar companies in Pakistan are involved in cricket?Will they spend money in AD revenues that will justify the broadcaster paying PCB huge money? The broadcaster will only pay the amount on which he can make a profit and with no way for him to tap into the Indian market he will not pay much.

I agree the difference is not just the sheer number of fans but also their disposable incomes, spending habits and the companies (selling products) willingness to go after this.

But still the PCB should be able to generate more revenues from within than what they are now. They should easily be self sufficient. But I say this with no knowledge of the economic situation of Pakistan fans.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I agree the difference is not just the sheer number of fans but also their disposable incomes, spending habits and the companies (selling products) willingness to go after this.

But still the PCB should be able to generate more revenues from within than what they are now. They should easily be self sufficient. But I say this with no knowledge of the economic situation of Pakistan fans.

PCB should for a change stop promising the broadcasters a India tour.Ask them to bid without a India tour and if a tour happens sell it separately.But PCB just doesnt learn.They over estimate and under deliver resulting in reductions which are far more than they would have been if they hadnot over estimated.

 

[Itachi]

At least Indian fans have FINALLY agreed they don't know what was in the MOU. That is a good start after claiming for years that MOU included GoI clearance as a condition.

BCCI already stated that govt clearence was part of the MOU.

Unless the other party denies and sues for misinterpretation, you don't have a case here if you look through neutral judgement.

 

[IndYeah1]

If PCB and Pakistan cricket fans want the Indian government and BCCI to send them a $130 million dollar giftcheck, then please write to your government to take action against proven criminals instead of providing them safety and luxury at Pakistan's taxpayer expense.

The hypocrisy of some fans here is quite blatant - open hostility against India, its people, but wanting Indians and their government to co-operate and give them the privilege of earning millions via the Indian audience. Suck it up. If you want to be hostile, accept the consequences.

Bilateral series aren't some Allah-given right, its subject to the discretion and mutual agreement of both boards and their respective governments. All the crying and chest-beating in the world isn't going to change that fact.

 

[squarecut]

BCCI plays cricket against all the other cricket playing nations, including two of its neighbours. The reason why it does not play cricket with PCB are well known. Those concerns need to be addressed, otherwise this living in denial is not going to help PCB and Pakistani fans. Pakitani fans and PCB may want to play with BCCI, but the people who decide the policy of their country are obviously not interested.

 

[Gubol123]

BCCI already stated that govt clearence was part of the MOU.

Unless the other party denies and sues for misinterpretation, you don't have a case here if you look through neutral judgement.

i said as much. BCCI has stated that govt clearance was part of MOU and PCB hasn't denied the same. So it is fair to assume that is the case. he is free to have his opinion

 

[Gubol123]

If PCB and Pakistan cricket fans want the Indian government and BCCI to send them a $130 million dollar giftcheck, then please write to your government to take action against proven criminals instead of providing them safety and luxury at Pakistan's taxpayer expense.

The hypocrisy of some fans here is quite blatant - open hostility against India, its people, but wanting Indians and their government to co-operate and give them the privilege of earning millions via the Indian audience. Suck it up. If you want to be hostile, accept the consequences.

Bilateral series aren't some Allah-given right, its subject to the discretion and mutual agreement of both boards and their respective governments. All the crying and chest-beating in the world isn't going to change that fact.

Just like how England has more or less cut ties with Zimbabwe. Nobody is going to make England tour Zimbabwe unless their government wants to. It is same as every other country who refused to tour South Africa during apartheid days. Same as Pakistan refusing to tour India in 90s. or multiple Olympic boycotts by various countries for various political reasons. Or current kneel downs in NFL. in all those cases sports was used as a political tool. India is currently using cricket as a political tool. Other country's fans are welcome not like it. But that did not make any difference to all those countries which used sport as a political tool and won't make any difference in the future too.

 

[Gubol123]

BCCI plays cricket against all the other cricket playing nations, including two of its neighbours. The reason why it does not play cricket with PCB are well known. Those concerns need to be addressed, otherwise this living in denial is not going to help PCB and Pakistani fans. Pakitani fans and PCB may want to play with BCCI, but the people who decide the policy of their country are obviously not interested.

Not just "not interested". BCCI/GOI seems to treat Pakistan and PCB more or less like a pest which is constantly bothering them. It is very demeaning and should lead to Pakistan and PCB showing some spine and standing up on their feet. Pakistan has a very rich cricket tradition with cricket mad fans(are they? doesn't look like it by looking at number of fans attending World XI matches or PSL final in one of most cricket crazy city). they should make use of that and become self sufficient and ask deal with BCCi. They should learn from BD board. i say this as a Indian cricket fan. It is really demeaning the way BCCI has treated PCB. But honestly PCB has brought it upon themselves. If they didn't have to depend on Indian money or series, they don't have to see this day. Even now they have PSL, which is a good property. They should focus on making that their cash cow and forget about playing India.

 

[squarecut]

when I said that people who decide the policy of their country are obviously not interested then I meant the Pakistani policy makers.

 

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan Cricket Board to demand around USD 70 million from BCCI as compensation

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) wants its Indian counterpart (BCCI) to pay approximately USD 70 million as compensation for not playing two “home” bilateral series.

The PCB, which has completed its consultation process and finalised its compensation claim against the BCCI, is expected to file its claim with the disputes resolution committee of the International Cricket Council (ICC) in a few days.

“Our case is that the BCCI signed an MoU with us in 2014 to play six bilateral series, starting with our home series, which they have not done as yet. Secondly they have avoided playing us in bilateral series since 2008 although they have no issues playing against us in ICC events,” PCB chairman Najam Sethi said.

Sethi said that under the MoU, the six bilateral series were to be played between 2015 and 2023 with Pakistan hosting home series at the start. He pointed out that India claimed it had not got permission from its government to play with Pakistan in bilateral series but had played them in the ICC events.

“We even offered to host our home series against them at neutral venue(s) to be mutually agreed by both of us. In 2016, we even offered to host a limited overs series in Sri Lanka,” said Sethi.

The PCB chief said the compensation claim would be filed soon as all preparations and consultations had been completed with a law firm in the United Kingdom. Sethi said Pakistan never had any problems playing bilateral matches with India at neutral venues but it was the BCCI which had caused huge financial losses to Pakistan.

He noted that Pakistan had already lost a lot of revenue due to international teams refusing to play in Pakistan since 2009 when terrorist attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team bus.

http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...70-million-from-bcci-as-compensation-4868627/

 

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The Pakistan Cricket Board’s plan to file a compensation claim with the ICC against its Indian counterpart (BCCI) is unlikely to see the light of day in the near future.

An official of the PCB told PTI that the Board’s plan to file a compensation claim is not on the agenda of the ICC (International Cricket Council) executive board meeting in Auckland early next week.

“No, it is not on the agenda and if anything Pakistan will put up this issue for finalisation at the next ICC meeting which will be held after Auckland,” he said.

“The reason for this is, the PCB is still finalising the claim after continuing consultations with a legal firm in London.”

The PCB chairman Najam Sethi and Chief Operating Officer Subhan Ahmad will be attending the meeting.

Asked if it is correct that the PCB planned to file a compensation claim of around USD 70 million for two home series that India didn’t play against Pakistan in 2014 and 2015, the official said: “The PCB will most probably file its claim with the ICC at the next meeting which will be held after Auckland.

After which the world governing body has to appoint a three or four member disputes resolution committee to hear out the case.”

While filing the compensation claim, the PCB would ask the BCCI to show proof and evidence that it did not get the permission of its government to play a bilateral series with Pakistan even at neutral venues.

“Pakistan’s contention is that the BCCI must show through documentation and evidence that indeed it did try to seek clearance from the government to play the series with Pakistan at neutral venues but their government refused to give the permission,” he said.

“Our insistence is simple that India’s refusal to play us has cost us lot of money and they have even backed out of the MoU signed with us in 2014 to play six bilateral series between 2015 and 2023,” the official added.

The official said that the legal firm in the United Kingdom has assured the PCB that the MoU constituted a legally binding agreement and it could claim compensation from the BCCI.

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/crick...-claim-not-on-iccs-agenda/article19802733.ece

 

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