Peace with Pakistan will give India direct access to Central Asia: Imran Khan

[OMB]

India has said the onus is on Pakistan to create an environment free of terror and hostility.

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday said India will be benefitted economically by having peace with his country as it will enable New Delhi to directly access the resource-rich Central Asia region through Pakistani territory.

Delivering the inaugural address at the launch of the two-day Islamabad Security Dialogue, Khan also said that his government after coming to power in 2018 did everything for better ties with India and it was for India to reciprocate.

“India will have to take the first step. Unless they do so, we cannot do much,” he said.

India last month said that it desires normal neighbourly relations with Pakistan in an environment free of terror, hostility and violence. India has said the onus is on Pakistan to create an environment free of terror and hostility.

India has also told Pakistan that "talks and terror" cannot go together and has asked Islamabad to take demonstrable steps against terror groups responsible for launching various attacks on India.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/peace-with-pakistan-will-give-india-direct-access-to-central-asia-imran-khan-101615976726851.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

Thanks but no thanks.

 

[the Great Khan]

Thanks but no thanks.

Your loss..

 

[srh]

India has said the onus is on Pakistan to create an environment free of terror and hostility.

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday said India will be benefitted economically by having peace with his country as it will enable New Delhi to directly access the resource-rich Central Asia region through Pakistani territory.

Delivering the inaugural address at the launch of the two-day Islamabad Security Dialogue, Khan also said that his government after coming to power in 2018 did everything for better ties with India and it was for India to reciprocate.

“India will have to take the first step. Unless they do so, we cannot do much,” he said.

India last month said that it desires normal neighbourly relations with Pakistan in an environment free of terror, hostility and violence. India has said the onus is on Pakistan to create an environment free of terror and hostility.

India has also told Pakistan that "talks and terror" cannot go together and has asked Islamabad to take demonstrable steps against terror groups responsible for launching various attacks on India.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/peace-with-pakistan-will-give-india-direct-access-to-central-asia-imran-khan-101615976726851.html

India does not want peace with Pakistan. Pakistan will always be considered an enemy by India. I do not know why Pakistan cannot accept this fact.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your loss..

Economic loss is better than human lives loss.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your loss..

Alternatives exist to access Central Asia and it would be foolish for India to depend on Pakistan to access any economic or strategic supply.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Your loss..

India are already accepting Chinese money with both hands. So you never know!

 

[CricketCartoons]

Alternatives exist to access Central Asia and it would be foolish for India to depend on Pakistan to access any economic or strategic supply.

In return, india can give direct access to nepal and bangladesh.

 

[moghul]

Indians need to grow up if they really want to improve their standing in the world, at the moment they are under achiever for being too narrow minded and their shortsightedness . As nation they have tremendous potential but they have shown no desire to resolve issues due to dirty internal politics and lack of leadership.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Thanks but no thanks.

Acha, tou phir yeh India Iranin Chabahar port or Afghanistan meh itni investment kew kar raha ha?

Angoor phir khattay hain!

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Alternatives exist to access Central Asia and it would be foolish for India to depend on Pakistan to access any economic or strategic supply.

Really?
I suggest taking a look at the map on india. The only other land route to central and west Asia is via China and that isnt a hospitable place, as Bihar regiment found out recently!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Thanks but no thanks.

Sums up hindutva attitude in India. Imran Khan once again showing the block to peace has never been Pakistan. The whip hand always belongs to the stronger nation, but India's designs are domination of Asia, and they still have not come to terms with the idea of a prosperous Pakistan.

 

[saeedhk]

What have you Mr Immy or rather your boss done for establishing peace with India? All this talk this cheap, the reality is that Pakistani establishment does not want strong ties or even peace with India as it would negate the establishment’s stranglehold over the country.

If there is peace with India, how would our gigantic defence budget, the VVVIP treatment and royal lifestyle of our army generals be justified?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What have you Mr Immy or rather your boss done for establishing peace with India? All this talk this cheap, the reality is that Pakistani establishment does not want strong ties or even peace with India as it would negate the establishment’s stranglehold over the country.

If there is peace with India, how would our gigantic defence budget, the VVVIP treatment and royal lifestyle of our army generals be justified?

Also sums up hindutva attitude in India.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

What have you Mr Immy or rather your boss done for establishing peace with India? All this talk this cheap, the reality is that Pakistani establishment does not want strong ties or even peace with India as it would negate the establishment’s stranglehold over the country.

If there is peace with India, how would our gigantic defence budget, the VVVIP treatment and royal lifestyle of our army generals be justified?

+1

Totally agree. The white elephant needs to justify its existence.

 

[gani999]

Sums up hindutva attitude in India. Imran Khan once again showing the block to peace has never been Pakistan. The whip hand always belongs to the stronger nation, but India's designs are domination of Asia, and they still have not come to terms with the idea of a prosperous Pakistan.

For that to happen, Pakistan will have to become prosperous first, or at least, take some positive steps towards that direction. We don't see either happening.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

For that to happen, Pakistan will have to become prosperous first, or at least, take some positive steps towards that direction. We don't see either happening.

Also there needs to be more toilets built in India and masses lifted out of poverty.

The ‘absolute number’ of ppl living below poverty line in India is higher than the whole population of Pakistan. I dont see that changing too soon either.

Its comical to see this chest thumping here, when india itself is in such a state.

 

[Thomaskutty]

If there is peace with India, how would our gigantic defence budget, the VVVIP treatment and royal lifestyle of our army generals be justified?

Saddest bit is nobody in Pakistan is even talking about this fauji-kashmir industrial complex. There are no editorials, news columns, tv discussions, nothing .. everyone is paralysed by fear, any one who puts his head above the parapet and crosses these sacred red lines is abducted by the army.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Saddest bit is nobody in Pakistan is even talking about this fauji-kashmir industrial complex. There are no editorials, news columns, tv discussions, nothing .. everyone is paralysed by fear, any one who puts his head above the parapet and crosses these sacred red lines is abducted by the army.

Luckily we have Modi worshipping Indians on all Pakistani news sites who can fill us in with verified facts such as yourself.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Luckily we have Modi worshipping Indians on all Pakistani news sites who can fill us in with verified facts such as yourself.

You insist on staying ignorant and letting indians on PP occasionally inform you about your own country. But if you find dem padosis off-putting you could always choose to listen to your own top journalists .. I posted these screens below a while ago.

 

[Ryw]

What have you Mr Immy or rather your boss done for establishing peace with India? All this talk this cheap, the reality is that Pakistani establishment does not want strong ties or even peace with India as it would negate the establishment’s stranglehold over the country.

If there is peace with India, how would our gigantic defence budget, the VVVIP treatment and royal lifestyle of our army generals be justified?

I was expecting someone will drag army in this,you won the race. Liberals dream what do you mean by strong ties and why imran khan s talk is cheap ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You insist on staying ignorant and letting indians on PP occasionally inform you about your own country. But if you find dem padosis off-putting you could always choose to listen to your own top journalists .. I posted these screens below a while ago.

1. It's not my country, please peruse the flag alongside my avatar.

2. There's nothing to see there. Did you delete them once you realised posting critical content from Pakistani journalists would contradict your claim about no discussion of politics in Pakistan due to fear of army backlash?

 

[Local.Dada]

From Mudi is a terrorist, Nazi,hitler to India should make the offer of friendship. Hmmm. Baby steps but we are getting somewhere.

Anyways no complaints on IK even when he posted that, he will always be one of my cricketing heroes, however good to see his bosses have given him permission for peace.

Yes, friendship will mutually benefit both India and Pakistan no denying. Pakistan a lot more though.

 

[Local.Dada]

Also there needs to be more toilets built in India and masses lifted out of poverty.

The ‘absolute number’ of ppl living below poverty line in India is higher than the whole population of Pakistan. I dont see that changing too soon either.

Its comical to see this chest thumping here, when india itself is in such a state.

You keep going to toilets and poverty because that is the only equivalence you will find between India and Pakistan. On all other factors there isn’t even a contest. Of course those problems exist in SC including India, however the chest thumping comes from everything else India has been able to accomplish against all odds in the 70+ years.

How about this why don’t you solve toilet problems in Pakistan first and then come and chest thump here and then we will agree,Pakistan has made some huge progress since 1947 . We will have no answer to your chest thumping then. This toilet card seems to be a template for clutching at straws for a few.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Acha, tou phir yeh India Iranin Chabahar port or Afghanistan meh itni investment kew kar raha ha?

Angoor phir khattay hain!

Are Iran and Afghanistan pakistani provinces? What has Indian investment in these places got to do with Pakistan?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sums up hindutva attitude in India. Imran Khan once again showing the block to peace has never been Pakistan. The whip hand always belongs to the stronger nation, but India's designs are domination of Asia, and they still have not come to terms with the idea of a prosperous Pakistan.

Pakistan wants the diplomatic pressure in FATF and the retaliation on the border to ease. The moment that happens subversive activities in India will increase like it did in 2000s.

Since the time ties with pakistan have been decreased, there has been almost no major terror non naxal attack outside Kashmir.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Really?
I suggest taking a look at the map on india. The only other land route to central and west Asia is via China and that isnt a hospitable place, as Bihar regiment found out recently!

I suggest pakistan looks after its own. Indians have managed their access to Central Asia without pakistan.

Ask the 90k pakistanis who bend their knee and handed over dhaka to India or those who ran awat leaving behind the dead bodies of their fallen comrades about bihar regiment. After that ask the 30 plus Chinese who died in Galwan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Also there needs to be more toilets built in India and masses lifted out of poverty.

The ‘absolute number’ of ppl living below poverty line in India is higher than the whole population of Pakistan. I dont see that changing too soon either.

Its comical to see this chest thumping here, when india itself is in such a state.

Says the country whose PM has to chauffeur around arab princes to get bailouts to run the country.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

I suggest pakistan looks after its own. Indians have managed their access to Central Asia without pakistan.

Ask the 90k pakistanis who bend their knee and handed over dhaka to India or those who ran awat leaving behind the dead bodies of their fallen comrades about bihar regiment. After that ask the 30 plus Chinese who died in Galwan.

Phir wohi rona dhona without any substantial facts to back it up.

- Everyone saw the pics and video clips of Bihar regiment’s ordeal. It was even shown on indian news channels.
- Where is the same for those 30 allegedly dead chinese soldiers?

All you could come up with was a vague news article reference mentioning ‘reports from US intelligence’ (which was probably written by some indian anyway). We want to see solid proof!

If there “really are” war casualties in today era of digital media war fare, everyone takes pics & video evidence. Just like Abhinandan was praded with a cup of tea in his hand. Why can india not produce anything like that to back up their claims?

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Pakistan wants the diplomatic pressure in FATF and the retaliation on the border to ease. The moment that happens subversive activities in India will increase like it did in 2000s.

Since the time ties with pakistan have been decreased, there has been almost no major terror non naxal attack outside Kashmir.

Pulwama

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

You keep going to toilets and poverty because that is the only equivalence you will find between India and Pakistan. On all other factors there isn’t even a contest. Of course those problems exist in SC including India, however the chest thumping comes from everything else India has been able to accomplish against all odds in the 70+ years.

How about this why don’t you solve toilet problems in Pakistan first and then come and chest thump here and then we will agree,Pakistan has made some huge progress since 1947 . We will have no answer to your chest thumping then. This toilet card seems to be a template for clutching at straws for a few.

Tch tch.. what else ve you got to claim?
Again those CEOs? -or- the IT bodyshops engaged in all sort of fraudulent activities, that one can think of.

Move beyond that and come up with something genuine this time!

 

[Hornbill]

Good idea to repay chinese loans but this will work only if you allow Indian companies to invest in pakistan with guaranteed protection for their investments, modi and company will do anything for their paymasters.

 

[ahmedzee]

Thanks but no thanks.

Goes onto show that Hindutva nation of India is quite anti-peace when their common citizens like you are war mongering and rejecting peace.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Phir wohi rona dhona without any substantial facts to back it up.

- Everyone saw the pics and video clips of Bihar regiment’s ordeal. It was even shown on indian news channels.
- Where is the same for those 30 allegedly dead chinese soldiers?

All you could come up with was a vague news article reference mentioning ‘reports from US intelligence’ (which was probably written by some indian anyway). We want to see solid proof!

If there “really are” war casualties in today era of digital media war fare, everyone takes pics & video evidence. Just like Abhinandan was praded with a cup of tea in his hand. Why can india not produce anything like that to back up their claims?

1. American and Russian media reported the number of deaths of chinese soldiers.

2. What video? It showed both sides joustling with each other. Does it show who died?

Vague news article? It was an article on US news. Russian TASS news agency also reported similar numbers.

Did China post video of any dead Indian soldier?

I can show plenty of videos 90k pakistanis surrendering in Dhaka or Pakistani soldiers being buried by Indians in Kargil.

As i said, India doesn't need pakistan to grow economically. And as an Indian i dont want my country to handover any strategic or economic leverage to Pakistan.

So no, we dont need pakistan to have access to central asia.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Goes onto show that Hindutva nation of India is quite anti-peace when their common citizens like you are war mongering and rejecting peace.

Keeping all relationship with Pakistan at bare minimum is also peace. No need to engage in war no need to engage in any other activities. Just keep a distance.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pulwama

Read the post again.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Tch tch.. what else ve you got to claim?
Again those CEOs? -or- the IT bodyshops engaged in all sort of fraudulent activities, that one can think of.

Move beyond that and come up with something genuine this time!

Or companies that supply the world with vaccines and medicines.

IT giants which are valued more than the entire market cap of Karachi stock exchange.

Or the biggest single refinery unit in the world.

Or some of the most powerful global CEOs

We don't need to beg for bailouts to stay afloat.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Or companies that supply the world with vaccines and medicines.

IT giants which are valued more than the entire market cap of Karachi stock exchange.

Or the biggest single refinery unit in the world.

Or some of the most powerful global CEOs

We don't need to beg for bailouts to stay afloat.

Ghubbaray meh se itni jaldi Hawa nikal gai.

India is nothing more than a supplier of cheap submissive Labour (both inside and outside India). That’s all it has ever been and is now!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ghubbaray meh se itni jaldi Hawa nikal gai.

India is nothing more than a supplier of cheap submissive Labour (both inside and outside India). That’s all it has ever been and is now!

Your frustrated opinion on India doesn't set the world opinion on India. Heck the pakistani PM's opinion was so ignored that now he is reduced to twitter rants.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Your frustrated opinion on India doesn't set the world opinion on India. Heck the pakistani PM's opinion was so ignored that now he is reduced to twitter rants.

Ofcourse what else can you say. Unfortunately just like you, most indians on the internet are cheap shots with hollow claims of their newly acquired greatness.

If Pakistani PMs opinion was so ignored, why you even bother reading it and why do you follow his Twitter account?

In reality both Pak and India have got a lot to gain by good “brotherly” relationships. Just look at the example of European Union.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ofcourse what else can you say. Unfortunately just like you, most indians on the internet are cheap shots with hollow claims of their newly acquired greatness.

If Pakistani PMs opinion was so ignored, why you even bother reading it and why do you follow his Twitter account?

In reality both Pak and India have got a lot to gain by good “brotherly” relationships. Just look at the example of European Union.

I dont follow his twitter account. His tweets are posted here on PP.

There may be gains. But the risks are too high for India. Right now pakistan has no economic or strategic leverage over India. It will be stupidity to hand that to pakistan by relying on them for our access to Central Asia.

 

[Giannis]

There can be no peace with India until their government ends their terroristic ways

 

[saeedhk]

I was expecting someone will drag army in this,you won the race. Liberals dream what do you mean by strong ties and why imran khan s talk is cheap ?

I am dragging the military into this because it is the ONLY stakeholder when it comes to peace with India; the civilian government is a mere rubber stamp and it has no power when it comes to foreign and strategic affairs.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

There can be no peace with India until their government ends their terroristic ways

Reality is that the hatred in common hindu mind is too deep rooted after 700 years of Muslim rule. Therefore at every small opportunity we get to see a glimpse of it. It will probably take them another 700 years to overcome this.

They cant overcome it this easily and see beyond this. So perhaps its about time we pakistanis should also realise this, accept the reality and give up on any reconciliation with India.

Modi and his goons are just a symptom, its the mindset of an ordinary Hindu, thats the real hurdle.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Reality is that the hatred in common hindu mind is too deep rooted after 700 years of Muslim rule. Therefore at every small opportunity we get to see a glimpse of it. It will probably take them another 700 years to overcome this.

They cant overcome it this easily and see beyond this. So perhaps its about time we pakistanis should also realise this, accept the reality and give up on any reconciliation with India.

Modi and his goons are just a symptom, its the mindset of an ordinary Hindu, thats the real hurdle.

So there is no hatred in Muslim minds towards Hindus.
Why were Kashmiri Hindus homes were burnt and they were forced to leave their homeland ?

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

So there is no hatred in Muslim minds towards Hindus.
Why were Kashmiri Hindus homes were burnt and they were forced to leave their homeland ?

Thats retaliation. If you slap someone twice, they will obviously slap you back once. Look at what India is doing in Kashmir valley to ordinary Kashmiris.

Hatred breeds hatred, which is what we see in Indo-Paks case.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Thats retaliation. If you slap someone twice, they will obviously slap you back once. Look at what India is doing in Kashmir valley to ordinary Kashmiris.

Hatred breeds hatred, which is what we see in Indo-Paks case.

Stop the hatred then. The fact that you gloat about Muslims ruling Hindus proves this point.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Delivering the inaugural address at the launch of the two-day Islamabad Security Dialogue, Khan also said that his government after coming to power in 2018 did everything for better ties with India and it was for India to reciprocate.

“India will have to take the first step. Unless they do so, we cannot do much,” he said.

Fair acknowledgement there that India holding more clout in the region and being the far bigger power calls the shots. As Indian patriots have already declared, losing some financial benefit is still better than seeing a prosperous Pakistan which is not under the jackboot of India.

 

[RickyG]

Keeping all relationship with Pakistan at bare minimum is also peace. No need to engage in war no need to engage in any other activities. Just keep a distance.

If memory serves me right India instigated an attack on Pakistani trees two years ago. It was an unprovoked attack that led to the capture of that tea is fantastic cartoon character.

India only likes to act like it wants peace. But Modi needs hostility with Pakistan to keep nationalist attitudes alive so BJP can keep getting re-elected.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

What have you Mr Immy or rather your boss done for establishing peace with India? All this talk this cheap, the reality is that Pakistani establishment does not want strong ties or even peace with India as it would negate the establishment’s stranglehold over the country.

If there is peace with India, how would our gigantic defence budget, the VVVIP treatment and royal lifestyle of our army generals be justified?

What makes you think India wants peace with Pakistan?

 

[cricketjoshila]

If memory serves me right India instigated an attack on Pakistani trees two years ago. It was an unprovoked attack that led to the capture of that tea is fantastic cartoon character.

India only likes to act like it wants peace. But Modi needs hostility with Pakistan to keep nationalist attitudes alive so BJP can keep getting re-elected.

Rejig your memory. UNSC statement says that pulwama attack was orchestrated by pakistan based terrorists. Bombing the terror camp in Balakote was in response to it.

BJP has understood that there is no use of any peace talks with Pakistan, when Pakistan supports an armed terrorist secessionist movement in India.

 

[Slog]

1. American and Russian media reported the number of deaths of chinese soldiers.

2. What video? It showed both sides joustling with each other. Does it show who died?

Vague news article? It was an article on US news. Russian TASS news agency also reported similar numbers.

.

The same reports also say that China has taken 600 square kilometers in Ladakh. Funny how it becomes ‘unreliable foreign reports’ when that is brought up lol

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

All these statements sound nice and good but let's be real: there isn't going to be any durable peace between India and Pakistan in our lifetimes.

Pakistan will not let the fire in Kashmir burn out. Whether its by supporting the freedom fighters, terrorist proxies or other means Pakistan will do everything within its power to at the very least, keep the pot boiling in Kashmir.

India will keep supporting Baloch separatists and other terrorist groups based in Afghanistan, and keep targeting Pakistan's Achilles heel: Balochistan.

Robust trade is not something Pakistan can or should seriously consider. As such a thing is almost guaranteed to result in a lopsided trade relationship infavor of India because of the lack of competitiveness of Pakistani goods; that India will most certainly leverage to economically bully Pakistan when it suits them.

Temporary peace is good for both sides, especially India who were losing a heavy number of soldiers on the LoC everyday. Which is why they approached Pakistani officials for a ceasefire in the first place. But we all know its not going to last.

 

[Slog]

Rejig your memory. UNSC statement says that pulwama attack was orchestrated by pakistan based terrorists. Bombing the terror camp in Balakote was in response to it.

BJP has understood that there is no use of any peace talks with Pakistan, when Pakistan supports an armed terrorist secessionist movement in India.

What terror camp? The reports you mention for Chinese deaths; these same publications say that the only damage done was trees whereas Abhinandan was dragged around like a mule

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

What terror camp? The reports you mention for Chinese deaths; these same publications say that the only damage done was trees whereas Abhinandan was dragged around like a mule

One has to question that WHY a “technologically advanced” country such as India cannot provide a single audio visual proof of shooting down of Pakistani F16 and the destruction of terrorist camp?

Or is it so that in reality technologically advanced only mean H1B fraud, 3rd rate call centers, comical Chandrayaan and the 5th generation Hal Tejas jet, that never took off.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Rejig your memory. UNSC statement says that pulwama attack was orchestrated by pakistan based terrorists. Bombing the terror camp in Balakote was in response to it.

BJP has understood that there is no use of any peace talks with Pakistan, when Pakistan supports an armed terrorist secessionist movement in India.

Thats called freedom fight, which is not different to what Bhagat singh did against British Raaj. If India carries on oppressing and killing innocent Kashmiris, there will be many more pulwamas in future to come.

As for Pakistan, india cant really do anything due to the status quo in place due to nuclear warheads. All india can do is to bark at LOC and do typical Baniya like activities like the EU disinformation network.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The same reports also say that China has taken 600 square kilometers in Ladakh. Funny how it becomes ‘unreliable foreign reports’ when that is brought up lol

They did in 1962.A1962.Afaik they still occupy that.

 

[Local.Dada]

What terror camp? The reports you mention for Chinese deaths; these same publications say that the only damage done was trees whereas Abhinandan was dragged around like a mule

Abhinandan was dragged around? I thought your government’s narrative was how they treated an enemy soldier with respect by buying him tea and then getting him fresh news clothes and giving him a full army level send off or hand off in this case.

Are they lying? Was he tortured?

Anyways, then how come Modi the vanquished just a few months later rubbed it in by dissolving the article 370 etc and kind of solving the Kashmir matter once and for all?

After that how come the victors and conquerers
of Abhinandan all they could do was have a Kashmir silence hour that the public really doesn’t care about?

Chalo even if I over look that, how come a prominent leader in assembly of all places and not a scandal leaked video saying that Army chief and Pm were shivering and sweating? What did he accomplish with it lol? At least our opposition makes fun of Modi or insults him but they seem to not undermine the army? Must be an inside joke clearly.

Chalo even if we overlook all this, how come it is business as usual in India after this thing where as Pakistan is still in a grey list and running around the world for free vaccines? Shouldn’t india the aggressor be in the grey list and world respecting Pakistan for this magnanimous gesture after capturing a soldier?

Too many lose ends to this story but that’s fine, you can be happy and have whatever narrative you want about Abhinandan, who am I to take that happiness away from people especially the ones who are making fun of a captured soldier in the line of duty when they haven’t even been in a schoolyard fight in their lives.

However you should be getting clarifications from this from your govt instead of half-bassing half-bassed knowledge.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Indians need to grow up if they really want to improve their standing in the world, at the moment they are under achiever for being too narrow minded and their shortsightedness . As nation they have tremendous potential but they have shown no desire to resolve issues due to dirty internal politics and lack of leadership.

No.
Why do you wanna do that?

I say let them stay on this path of narrow mindedness and fascism that simply leads to self destruction.

Many in the current ruling party are religious fanatics who burn inside with hatered and malice. Let India keep having such rulers in power. It will serve them right.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Thats called freedom fight, which is not different to what Bhagat singh did against British Raaj. If India carries on oppressing and killing innocent Kashmiris, there will be many more pulwamas in future to come.

As for Pakistan, india cant really do anything due to the status quo in place due to nuclear warheads. All india can do is to bark at LOC and do typical Baniya like activities like the EU disinformation network.

What you call freedom fight is referred to as terrorism by rest of the world.

The status quo suits us. Has India made any attempts to change it in 75 years. No.

India will keep on raising the cost for pakistan at the LoC, in places like FATF. The already shaky pakistani economy, living on bailouts will have a tough time because of this.

 

[Local.Dada]

The only one barking is imran khan and that too on twitter.

What you call freedom fight is referred to as terrorism by rest of the world.

The status quo suits us. Has India made any attempts to change it in 75 years. No.

India will keep on raising the cost for pakistan at the LoC, in places like FATF. The already shaky pakistani economy, living on bailouts will have a tough time because of this.

He has already made a u-turn lol. From nazis and fascists to “we want peace with India” “we can offer them central Asian riches” etc.

I don’t think Imran is a bad guy though, just not a political leader. It is usually the middle man who takes the heat and that’s why it’s poor Imran who gets stuck in the middle.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What terror camp? The reports you mention for Chinese deaths; these same publications say that the only damage done was trees whereas Abhinandan was dragged around like a mule

Abhinandan went with his jet and violated pakistani airspace and then walked back home thumbing the noses of pakistanis.

What was the condition of pakistani leadership was very well described by one of your parliamentarians in your parliament.

None of the media were allowed access to those buildings for weeks. Pakistani airspace was closed for weeks, all because some trees were uprooted.

The country that refused to accept its dead soldiers in kargil, this is what is to be expected of their leadership.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He has already made a u-turn lol. From nazis and fascists to “we want peace with India” “we can offer them central Asian riches” etc.

I don’t think Imran is a bad guy though, just not a political leader. It is usually the middle man who takes the heat and that’s why it’s poor Imran who gets stuck in the middle.

Modi govt has made pakistan irrelevant to India's affairs. Any economic or strategic option that includes pakistan is no option at all for India and Modi has implemented this.

The only thing that remains is that if provoked we will retaliate. Rest we want nothing to do with pakistan. Our paths should not cross. Thats a good strategy.

 

[Local.Dada]

No.
Why do you wanna do that?

I say let them stay on this path of narrow mindedness and fascism that simply leads to self destruction.

Many in the current ruling party are religious fanatics who burn inside with hatered and malice. Let India keep having such rulers in power. It will serve them right.

We are doing fine. Also Pakistanis have no right to talk about narrow mindedness.

Why can’t a non-Muslim have the same rights as a Muslim in Pakistan?

How come who is a Muslim or not is defined by the constitution?

At least Indian constitution allows every one equal rights or if you age minority more special
Rights.

So no unless you have a problem with those and plenty of other things I can point out you have no right to lecture Indians or Hindus.

On this very forum I have been called derogatory names for my religion and yes the mods did delete that for which they have my respect. On your TV shows I have seen celebrities use bagal me choori,hinduon ki zehniuat etc. can you imagine what will happen if someone sterotypes an entire religion or community in India apart from Brahmins,Merchant class etc?

Pehle apna dekho, then you can call out on the narrow minded ness of Indians.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

The only one barking is imran khan and that too on twitter.

What you call freedom fight is referred to as terrorism by rest of the world.

The status quo suits us. Has India made any attempts to change it in 75 years. No.

India will keep on raising the cost for pakistan at the LoC, in places like FATF. The already shaky pakistani economy, living on bailouts will have a tough time because of this.

Tch tch, pulwamas will carry on and Abhinandan’s will keep on dragged around.

Yes, sure have nothing to do with Pakistan. Thats fine but do realize that there is a bigger danger lurking around on the Northern border, which is slowly going to strangle India from all sides. CPEC is just one example of this.

Also I personally feel that its a pity that at a people to people level, we have come to this stage where we have so much hatred for each other based on religious lines. After all we Pakistanis and Indians are blood related to each other.
Some time in future we will have to realize that we need to move on.

 

[Local.Dada]

Tch tch, pulwamas will carry on and Abhinandan’s will keep on dragged around.

Yes, sure have nothing to do with Pakistan. Thats fine but do realize that there is a bigger danger lurking around on the Northern border, which is slowly going to strangle India from all sides. CPEC is just one example of this.

Also I personally feel that its a pity that at a people to people level, we have come to this stage where we have so much hatred for each other based on religious lines. After all we Pakistanis and Indians are blood related to each other.
Some time in future we will have to realize that we need to move on.

Don’t crate equivalence. In India at least most of us have grown with at least 1-2 great Muslim friends, teachers, role models/heroes and icons. No hate at all on religious lines. Yes the extremist types are hated no different from the moderate or liberal Muslim who thinks they cause him a bad name too.

There is no hatred on religions lines whatsoever. We have a significant Muslim population in our country and most of them continue to contribute to the country.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Don’t crate equivalence. In India at least most of us have grown with at least 1-2 great Muslim friends, teachers, role models/heroes and icons. No hate at all on religious lines. Yes the extremist types are hated no different from the moderate or liberal Muslim who thinks they cause him a bad name too.

There is no hatred on religions lines whatsoever. We have a significant Muslim population in our country and most of them continue to contribute to the country.

I don’t believe in what you are saying about no deep rooted animosity and mistrust amongst Himdus towards muslims in India. But that’s ok, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

What i meant in my post above is that the animosity between India and Pakistan is mainly on the lines of religion.

 

[Slog]

Abhinandan was dragged around? I thought your government’s narrative was how they treated an enemy soldier with respect by buying him tea and then getting him fresh news clothes and giving him a full army level send off or hand off in this case.

Are they lying? Was he tortured?

Anyways, then how come Modi the vanquished just a few months later rubbed it in by dissolving the article 370 etc and kind of solving the Kashmir matter once and for all?

After that how come the victors and conquerers
of Abhinandan all they could do was have a Kashmir silence hour that the public really doesn’t care about?

Chalo even if I over look that, how come a prominent leader in assembly of all places and not a scandal leaked video saying that Army chief and Pm were shivering and sweating? What did he accomplish with it lol? At least our opposition makes fun of Modi or insults him but they seem to not undermine the army? Must be an inside joke clearly.

Chalo even if we overlook all this, how come it is business as usual in India after this thing where as Pakistan is still in a grey list and running around the world for free vaccines? Shouldn’t india the aggressor be in the grey list and world respecting Pakistan for this magnanimous gesture after capturing a soldier?

Too many lose ends to this story but that’s fine, you can be happy and have whatever narrative you want about Abhinandan, who am I to take that happiness away from people especially the ones who are making fun of a captured soldier in the line of duty when they haven’t even been in a schoolyard fight in their lives.

However you should be getting clarifications from this from your govt instead of half-bassing half-bassed knowledge.

I know you are hurting so typed out this long essay as a balm to your wounds. But unfortunately it doesn’t do the trick. But may be it helped you mentally so I’d say good for you.

Abhinandan was dragged around like a mule by the locals before the army intervened and served him tea which in Abhinandan’s own words was ‘fantastic.’ There is a literal video of that. You know. Here in Pakistan we don’t need to make up fake news to feel better about these recent events. We talk about things of which there are actual video and photographic proof and not some made up stories like hitting terror camps or downing F-16s which are debunked by almost every credible news organizations. That’s India’s forte.

 

[Slog]

Abhinandan went with his jet and violated pakistani airspace and then walked back home thumbing the noses of pakistanis.

What was the condition of pakistani leadership was very well described by one of your parliamentarians in your parliament.

None of the media were allowed access to those buildings for weeks. Pakistani airspace was closed for weeks, all because some trees were uprooted.

The country that refused to accept its dead soldiers in kargil, this is what is to be expected of their leadership.

Abhinandan was dragged around like a mule by the locals and his nose was bloodied before the Pakistan army spared his life and he thanked their hospitality and the Pakistani tea before being made to record videos for kicks and finally. Be sent home.

That poor guy failed in his mission as he was outsmarted in the air.. And India had to resort to fake stories of downing F-16s to save his face but unfortunately no international organization or country believes that.

 

[Slog]

Also lol at those hurt Indians pointing to political statements of a Pakistani opposition leader )

perhaps you guys should read and accept statements of your country’s 2nd largest party more regularly and what they have to say about these events and Modi in general.

I could post these and have fun. But I won’t embarrass you guys further by posting their statements because I know you’re already clutching at straws here.

 

[RickyG]

Rejig your memory. UNSC statement says that pulwama attack was orchestrated by pakistan based terrorists. Bombing the terror camp in Balakote was in response to it.

BJP has understood that there is no use of any peace talks with Pakistan, when Pakistan supports an armed terrorist secessionist movement in India.

Didn't Arnab Goswami's leaked conversations give away that it was a false flag attack? Even if it wasn't the culprit was a Kashmiri boy from Pulwama.

Pakistan actually called India's bluff and arrested the names given to them by India but India offered no further proof.

The fact that you still believe a terror camp was bombed basically lets me know you've bought into the uber-nationalism being fed to you.

You can change the narrative and point to whatever you want. As far as India and Pakistan relations are concerned. India was most recently the aggressor. If you don't want peace or non-hostile relations that is fine. But own it rather than trying to shift the blame.

 

[ahsan17]

Interesting how Indians are able to spin a favourable narrative about the events of Feb 27 despite it being globally known as a huge embarassment for them. I have never seen a country before that can spin literally anything in a favourable way for themselves.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Interesting how Indians are able to spin a favourable narrative about the events of Feb 27 despite it being globally known as a huge embarassment for them. I have never seen a country before that can spin literally anything in a favourable way for themselves.

Height of technological advancement. Aik aur Abhinadan jaan se gaya:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/citi...1-bison-crash-in-gwalior-101616010478158.html

 

[Romali_rotti]

The same reports also say that China has taken 600 square kilometers in Ladakh. Funny how it becomes ‘unreliable foreign reports’ when that is brought up lol

Yeah we are all connected..

You guys all of a sudden believe Indian Media when they reported 20 Indian soldiers died.

Otherwise its the fraudulent Indian Media.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Wish there was a possibility of peace between the 2 countries, however India/Pakistan relationship is so volatile it is not wise to depend on Pakistan for access routes to Central Asia.. And Vice Versa...

 

[Slog]

Yeah we are all connected..

You guys all of a sudden believe Indian Media when they reported 20 Indian soldiers died.

Otherwise its the fraudulent Indian Media.

No I didn’t believe Indian media then too lol.

Only believed when international sources verified such figures.

 

[Romali_rotti]

No I didn’t believe Indian media then too lol.

Only believed when international sources verified such figures.

Well international sources did also highlight 40 odd Chinese Soldiers were killed.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

I find it realy funny when Modi suporters lecture someone
I know you people dont have it but have some shame.

 

[Slog]

Well international sources did also highlight 40 odd Chinese Soldiers were killed.

So? I’m not disputing that

I’m just laughing at cricketjoshila and Local.Dada that they want to selectively believe foreign intelligence reports when it suits them

 

[Romali_rotti]

So? I’m not disputing that

I’m just laughing at cricketjoshila and Local.Dada that they want to selectively believe foreign intelligence reports when it suits them

My mistake.

Sorry wrong thread, there were ppl disputing the death of Chinese soldiers.