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People of Pakistan can’t be left to PDM govt: Fawad Chaudary

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Former PTI leader Fawad Chaudhry has said that “all of us have condemned the events of May 9”.

Addressing a joint press conference alongside Imran Ismail and Mahmood Baqi Moulvi outside Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi, he said, the 250 million population of Pakistan could not be left to PPP co-chairperson Asif Ali Zardari and PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif.

“Given Pakistan’s situation, it is not possible to leave the people of Pakistan to parties in the PDM (Pakistan Democratic Movement) government,” he said, holding the incumbent PDM-led government “directly responsible” for the political and economic uncertainty in Pakistan.

“It will not be possible at any cost that the position of opposition is left vacant” and the PDM was given an open field to play.
 
And you proved a turncoat people should not be fooled by his antics either you are with IK or other side of the rope, there is no middle ground
 
The establishment thinks that by eliminating Imran and creating a new party consisting of PTI rejects who obviously will be their puppets, they would easily persuade PTI supporters to leave Imran and join this party. That's never going to happen. Keep living in fool's paradise.
 
Fawad Chaudhry was fired by IK, he didn't leave on his own. IK didn't humiliate him by announcing it. Fawad was a PDM and Establishment mole in PTI and IK, PTI blocked him on whatsapp.
 
Fawad Chaudhry was fired by IK, he didn't leave on his own. IK didn't humiliate him by announcing it. Fawad was a PDM and Establishment mole in PTI and IK, PTI blocked him on whatsapp.

Establishment mole ? IK was a product that establishment.
 
lol coming from a guy that left PTI.

DOnt worry, PPP will break PDM away :).

Hakumat is coming back to PPP
 
Fawad Chaudhry was fired by IK, he didn't leave on his own. IK didn't humiliate him by announcing it. Fawad was a PDM and Establishment mole in PTI and IK, PTI blocked him on whatsapp.

PTI blocked him on WhatsApp? What kind of a lame punishment is that?
 
lol coming from a guy that left PTI.

DOnt worry, PPP will break PDM away :).

Hakumat is coming back to PPP

And what benefit will Pakistan receive there? Has any PPP government done wonders for Pakistan? Or even Sindh for that matter?

This was a historic time for PDM-PTI to actually break the establishment and set up a democratic system in Pakistan, it’s a huge miss if this doesn’t let to that happening.

Emergency in India led to most progressive democratic institutions in India, including bipartisan support for issues.
 
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lol coming from a guy that left PTI.

DOnt worry, PPP will break PDM away :).

Hakumat is coming back to PPP

Hukumran will not be politicians. They are just puppets. It's your preferred puppet. That's all. Rest will be Rawalpindi.
 
Fawad's card has been marked for a while.

He has been courting the Noon league for a while and got rebuffed.

He is now politically homeless and seeking a way back into PTI.

Hope this lota is picked up by no party,
 
All political opponents will have a field day when campaigning against this guy and referencing how he ran inside the Islamabad High Court to avoid arrest.
 
This will be the result of the next GE (whenever they are held).

There will be a hung parliament where PPP, PMLN, PTI (Jahangir Tareen + Aleem Khan group) and PML-Q will be given between 40-70 NA seats, ensuring no party has a majority so that it becomes easier to manage the NA assembly in case of a flare-up between the upcoming PM and the military.

I expect PPP, PTI (JT + AK group) and PML-Q to form the federal government while PML-N will be in charge of Punjab, the PPP of Sindh, JUI-F of KP and BAP leading the government in Balouchistan. We are back to the 1990s. Democracy is the best revenge!
 
The establishment thinks that by eliminating Imran and creating a new party consisting of PTI rejects who obviously will be their puppets, they would easily persuade PTI supporters to leave Imran and join this party. That's never going to happen. Keep living in fool's paradise.

I doubt this "Kings party" will get more than 1% of the PTI vote bank. Same way when the establishment tried to break MQM they created MQM H and the Pak Sarmazeen Party. Those parties were irrelevant and could not win one seat.
 
Fawad Chaudhry was fired by IK, he didn't leave on his own. IK didn't humiliate him by announcing it. Fawad was a PDM and Establishment mole in PTI and IK, PTI blocked him on whatsapp.

this was before he announced he was leaving?
 
this was before he announced he was leaving?

Yup. Pti leaders suspected he was well aware of the plan to arrest IK and on May 9 he was seeking refuge in the Supreme Court and avoiding the press. He also met the US Ambassador Donald Bloom on April 27 at his home. In prison he was criticizing and back biting about IK to the authorities who sent his audio clips to pti and IK promptly blocked his number when Fawad signed the deal to not campaign or indulge in Political activities in exchange for his release. IK was also unhappy at the video clip of him running away inside the Islamabad High Court when the police came to rearrest him and felt being a senior PTI leader, he set a very cowardly example.

Apparently when Fawad was first arrested in January February 2023, he reached out to PML N wanting entry in their party, Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz told him to prove himself first and to be their mole inside PTI.
 
In a move that left many scratching their heads, a group of PTI defectors led by Fawad Chaudhry met Shah Mehmood Qureshi in Adiala Jail on Wednesday, apparently to convince the party’s vice chairman to desert Imran Khan.

However, the meeting of the group also comprising former Sindh governor Imran Ismail, Aamer Kiani and Mehmoud Moulvi, which was “arranged” in a separate room of the jail, apparently failed to achieve its objective.

In a post on Twitter, the PTI leader’s son Zain Qureshi said, “Makhdoom sahib is the vice chairman of the party and is the name of an ideology. We stand with the ideology of Tehreek-i-Insaf and Imran Khan. He [Shah Mehmood] has only done politics of principles and service, not position and greed”.

“He was with Imran Khan yesterday and today,” Dawn.com reported Mr Qureshi as saying.

About a week ago, Imran Khan announced that Mr Qureshi would lead the party in case he is arrested or disqualified.

After their meeting, Fawad Chaudhry and others spoke to journalists eagerly waiting outside the prison.

The former PTI leaders criticised the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) government for the prevailing political instability and financial crunch hitting the country.

Mr Chaudhry said that the 250 million people of Pakistan cannot be left at the mercy of Asif Zardari, Nawaz Sharif and Maulana Fazlur Rehman.

He said they had a detailed meeting with Mr Qureshi. “We have to move towards a stable solution,” he added, without elaborating.

When asked about thousands of detained workers of PTI, he said a majority of them did not have any direct link with the May 9 riots and it was the responsibility of the party to get them released.

He expressed the hope that law would be followed while taking any action against those involved in riots during which civilian and military installations were targeted.

His remarks come amid speculation about the launch of a new political party in the country, mostly comprising PTI defectors.

Mr Chaudhry said he had talked to the former PTI leadership. “We had a detailed meeting with Asad Umar, and also contacted Asad Qaiser, Farrukh Habib, Shahzad Wasim, Ali Zaidi, Hammad Azhar, Pervez Khattak and other leaders.”

He did not mention what objective the group wanted to achieve by these efforts. However, the grapevine is abuzz with rumours that they are working on a ‘minus Imran’ formula and their meeting with Mr Qureshi was a step in that direction.

The PDM government cannot be given an open field in the absence of an active opposition, Mr Chaudhry said.

He stressed that there was a need to address the issues facing the country but unfortunately there was no one to play the role of a saviour.

This was Mr Chaudhry’s first media talk since he quit the PTI.

However, Asad Qaiser in a post on social media denied any contact with Mr Chaudhry.

Likewise, Farrukh Habib tweeted: “No politics without Imran khan!”

Negotiation committee of PTI

In a sharp reaction to Fawad Chaudhry’s media talk, PTI’s Secretary Information Raoof Hasan said rumours of negotiations with PTI are being spread by some people who have already left the party.

He said a committee has already been constituted to negotiate, which shall do so with the permission of Imran Khan. This was done to hold talks with those people in power who have pushed the country to the brink of collapse, he added.

Apparently alluding to the PDM government, Mr Hasan said one fails to understand the need for negotiating with those who have already left PTI and are no longer part of the party.

He said such rumours would not give any credibility to those people who displayed a “humiliating paucity of character”.

Published in Dawn, June 1st, 2023
 
Lahore ATC extends Asad Umar’s interim bail till June 13

A Lahore anti-terrorism court has extended PTI leader Asad Umar’s interim bail till June 13 in a case pertaining to vandalism at Lahore’s Askari Tower.

Accepting Umar’s bail plea against surety bonds worth Rs100,000, the court ordered him to join the investigation.

During the hearing — presided by Judge Ejaz Ahmad Buttar — Umar’s counsel told the court that on the date of the incident mentioned in the case, his client was in Islamabad and had no involvement in the alleged offence.

In a short interaction with reporters, referring to a recent press conference by ex-PTI leader Fawad Chaudhry, Umar clarified he was “not active in what Fawad is doing”.
 
And what benefit will Pakistan receive there? Has any PPP government done wonders for Pakistan? Or even Sindh for that matter?

This was a historic time for PDM-PTI to actually break the establishment and set up a democratic system in Pakistan, it’s a huge miss if this doesn’t let to that happening.

Emergency in India led to most progressive democratic institutions in India, including bipartisan support for issues.

You won’t get a response when you ask about PPP performance in Sindh.

And, even if you do get a response, it’ll be along the lines of, “screw Sindh, PPP has a great foreign policy and I support their ideology”.

Rest of the world, people look at performances of parties, however, in Pakistan they only look at the last name of the leaders.
 
lol coming from a guy that left PTI.

DOnt worry, PPP will break PDM away :).

Hakumat is coming back to PPP

I'm assuming you are talking about a puppet government because there's no way PPP can ever win the general election on its own. Even Sindh is slipping from PPP's destructive grip.
 
Apparently the plan is to use these PTI Kings people and to release the PTI workers and have these guys address a press conference where they will take credit for releasing the workers and for them to promote the narrative that we are the true PTI people, party, we truly care about our workers whereas Imran Khan is happy to sit in Zaman Park, letting everyone else suffer for him, he doesn't care about his workers, supporters e.t.c.
 
Apparently the plan is to use these PTI Kings people and to release the PTI workers and have these guys address a press conference where they will take credit for releasing the workers and for them to promote the narrative that we are the true PTI people, party, we truly care about our workers whereas Imran Khan is happy to sit in Zaman Park, letting everyone else suffer for him, he doesn't care about his workers, supporters e.t.c.

The PTI followers are not Beryani khore. They truly understand the game plan. The dumbos strategizing this masquerade are stuck in an era where they could manipulate people. Even an elementary school kid has resources these days to distinctly tell right from wrong.
 
Apparently the plan is to use these PTI Kings people and to release the PTI workers and have these guys address a press conference where they will take credit for releasing the workers and for them to promote the narrative that we are the true PTI people, party, we truly care about our workers whereas Imran Khan is happy to sit in Zaman Park, letting everyone else suffer for him, he doesn't care about his workers, supporters e.t.c.
Let me tell you except pervaiz khatak none of them have significant vote bank.Pervaiz can win his MPA seat at best. PTI in KPK is rocking , even if they give ticket to unknown people.
 
Apparently the plan is to use these PTI Kings people and to release the PTI workers and have these guys address a press conference where they will take credit for releasing the workers and for them to promote the narrative that we are the true PTI people, party, we truly care about our workers whereas Imran Khan is happy to sit in Zaman Park, letting everyone else suffer for him, he doesn't care about his workers, supporters e.t.c.

Just curious reading multiple posts like these from you - how do you know all the underground happenings? I hope the source is something legit and not WhatsApp gossip.
 
I'm assuming you are talking about a puppet government because there's no way PPP can ever win the general election on its own. Even Sindh is slipping from PPP's destructive grip.

SIndh is not slipping. They will use electables of Punjab to win from Punjab.

How is PPP a puppet when there own person sits in establishment? Zardari runs senate aswell.
 
The PTI followers are not Beryani khore. They truly understand the game plan. The dumbos strategizing this masquerade are stuck in an era where they could manipulate people. Even an elementary school kid has resources these days to distinctly tell right from wrong.

if they understood the soo called game plan, they would had not gone protesting and burning things like fools and than get caught with there pants down
 
SIndh is not slipping. They will use electables of Punjab to win from Punjab.

How is PPP a puppet when there own person sits in establishment? Zardari runs senate aswell.

PPP wouldn't have surrendered prime ministership to PMLN if they had electrical power.

TLP gets more votes in Punjab than PPP. Don't kid yourself.
 
PPP wouldn't have surrendered prime ministership to PMLN if they had electrical power.

TLP gets more votes in Punjab than PPP. Don't kid yourself.

they never surrendered, they took all the foreign affairs post and gave PMLN all the domestic affairs. PPP was never interested in pmship of a govt that was for one year. They allowed Shebaz Shareef to mess up, plus PPP is more interested in Parliamentary power instead of just having a PM with no power to have bills passed.

In Punjab during last election, army was involved in vote cancellation.
 
they never surrendered, they took all the foreign affairs post and gave PMLN all the domestic affairs. PPP was never interested in pmship of a govt that was for one year. They allowed Shebaz Shareef to mess up, plus PPP is more interested in Parliamentary power instead of just having a PM with no power to have bills passed.

That's one way of saying PPP didn't carry enough wealth to have a bigger role in PDM.

PPP will slowly try to distance itself from PDM come the election days to reduce the damage to its already horrid reputation but I think its efforts will go in vain. You can't disassociate yourself from over a year and a half worth of damage in just a few weeks.

In Punjab during last election, army was involved in vote cancellation.

PPP needs army involvement to get more votes than TLP in Punjab. Be real, PPP isn't even in consideration of winning the Punjab election. It's like saying PMLN is more popular than PTI in KPK, that just ain't true.
 
That's one way of saying PPP didn't carry enough wealth to have a bigger role in PDM.

PPP will slowly try to distance itself from PDM come the election days to reduce the damage to its already horrid reputation but I think its efforts will go in vain. You can't disassociate yourself from over a year and a half worth of damage in just a few weeks.



PPP needs army involvement to get more votes than TLP in Punjab. Be real, PPP isn't even in consideration of winning the Punjab election. It's like saying PMLN is more popular than PTI in KPK, that just ain't true.

you have no idea whats about to happen.

PTI cant win Punjab now as its being broken down. 3-4 factions of PTI being formed, one will be formed by Jehangir Tareen and than there will be others. The MQM policy is being applied on PTI.

PMLN would be expected to get more votes, but PPP can surprise everyone if they take the electables. The differences would be of few thousands now.

TLP is out of the picture in this election due as more parties will be formed and voters being divided.
 
That's one way of saying PPP didn't carry enough wealth to have a bigger role in PDM.

PPP will slowly try to distance itself from PDM come the election days to reduce the damage to its already horrid reputation but I think its efforts will go in vain. You can't disassociate yourself from over a year and a half worth of damage in just a few weeks.



PPP needs army involvement to get more votes than TLP in Punjab. Be real, PPP isn't even in consideration of winning the Punjab election. It's like saying PMLN is more popular than PTI in KPK, that just ain't true.

That is the plan. Word is Zardari wont do a seat adjustment either with PDM. He is hoping a divided electorate will help PPP get revived in Punjab. I think this actually benefits PTI, as now the opposition will be divided between PDM, PPP, JKT Group, TLP. PTI has the largest vote bank, however there was a chance a united opposition could beat them. Dont see them losing now, which is why PML N will try to delay elections till next year.

Also the core PPP vote bank does not really care for performance. They are a mix of the Bhutto cultists, liberals, people who want jobs in state run enterprises (PIA, Steel Mill etc), Sindhis. So now you add the electables vote bank and they have a chance in some seats in Punjab, esp South Punjab.
 
you have no idea whats about to happen.

PTI cant win Punjab now as its being broken down. 3-4 factions of PTI being formed, one will be formed by Jehangir Tareen and than there will be others. The MQM policy is being applied on PTI.

PMLN would be expected to get more votes, but PPP can surprise everyone if they take the electables. The differences would be of few thousands now.

TLP is out of the picture in this election due as more parties will be formed and voters being divided.

The breakaway factions of MQM could not win one seat. MQM Haqiqi , Pak Sarzameen Party. And the MQM London and MQM Pakistan divide was a drama. MQM London did not contest any seats.

Also the reason that MQM won elections was the largest ethnic group of Karachi refused to vote for what they perceived to be a Sindhi Party (PPP), Punjabi Party (PML N), and Mullahs (Jaamt e Islami, TLP, etc). Once a new alternate came (PTI) MQM vote bank mainly preferred them.

Now the people of Karachi have PTI i think MQM will be lucky to win one seat in Karachi, even if the establishment unites all those factions.
 
To be honest I have no issues with all of this as this is politics.

Where I have a problem is when external forces (not political) throw in their lot to change outcomes.
 
you have no idea whats about to happen.

PTI cant win Punjab now as its being broken down. 3-4 factions of PTI being formed, one will be formed by Jehangir Tareen and than there will be others. The MQM policy is being applied on PTI.

PMLN would be expected to get more votes, but PPP can surprise everyone if they take the electables. The differences would be of few thousands now.

TLP is out of the picture in this election due as more parties will be formed and voters being divided.

I don't think you understand PPP's position in Punjab. If they win more than 5 seats in Punjab then we can safely assume that mass rigging has taken place. No amount of electables can change decades worth of hatred. Not to mention the horrific performance of PDM.

The only way PPP can win is if the establishment blesses them again, which is a very real possibility.

Other than that PMLN is still relevant but they will perform worse than they did in 2018. Their reputation is in the dumps, even my extreme PMLN-loving family in Lahore has stopped supporting them. Ironically one of the major reasons why PMLN has lost support is due to their little partnership with the "Bhutto zinda hai" gang, also known as PPP.
 
I don't think you understand PPP's position in Punjab. If they win more than 5 seats in Punjab then we can safely assume that mass rigging has taken place. No amount of electables can change decades worth of hatred. Not to mention the horrific performance of PDM.

The only way PPP can win is if the establishment blesses them again, which is a very real possibility.

Other than that PMLN is still relevant but they will perform worse than they did in 2018. Their reputation is in the dumps, even my extreme PMLN-loving family in Lahore has stopped supporting them. Ironically one of the major reasons why PMLN has lost support is due to their little partnership with the "Bhutto zinda hai" gang, also known as PPP.

SO you are alredy saying that you will assume rigging took place.

again, you dont understand the ground situation which i have already told and continuing is just waste of time now
 
SO you are alredy saying that you will assume rigging took place.

again, you dont understand the ground situation which i have already told and continuing is just waste of time now

The guy that's from PMLN's main city(Lahore) doesn't understand the political reality in Punjab but a PPP supporter does. Cool bro.
 
Fawad was always the weak link and he has proven it again.

No one will want him on their side. He will exist but not in any big role - ever.
 
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